Sorry, I just don't think it's him, different backback straps and pockets where there weren't any before, this is turning into another Boston bomber misidentification. But this time it's the NYPD instead of reddit making the mistake
Someone should find that brand of jacket and post it somewhere. I'd buy one and start wearing it around with a gaiter.
I'm Spartacus!
I, too, am Spartacus.
I'd rather not get shot by cops who decide that my wallet is a gun
This "suspect" is a chew toy to distract the public while the NYPD get to the important work of crafting their speech for the next press conference that they cannot find the killer.
Also, the jacket cuffs are different.
Yes, well….you don’t have to be bright or professional or careful as the police.
In fact, it's discouraged in many states.
Yeah, unless someone saw him change his clothes and backpack I don't get why he's being identified as a suspect.
If he gets caught, he should slow roll the trial as looooooong as he can...
... And run for President in 2028 🇺🇸
Felonies and civility don't matter anymore... clearly. He has a platfom I'd like to hear more of.
Seems to have a face that would look good on a campaign poster.
By being a felon he’s already prequalified to be president. The problem is I don’t think he’s old enough yet, even in 2028.
Their laws are worth less than the paper they're written on. Fuck em. He's old enough if he gets enough votes. We're already letting millions of mentally ill fascists elect criminally corrupt sociopaths.
Oh totally in agreement. But if we pretend for a moment that the law matters (it doesn’t) I don’t think this guy will be 35 in 2028.
This likely isn't even the guy as others have been pointing out.
Too many clothing mismatches, backpack straps, pockets, different from the shooting site.
The NYPD just needs to arrest... Someone.
A low level owner was targeted and killed by a peasant in one of their centers of power, New York City. That isn't allowed to stand.
Yeah we should all probably delete all footage from all security cameras just in case.
Photos of this guy are with a bookbag with black straps. The guy with the bookbag with white straps in the shooting video has a completely different jacket and thin eyebrows vs this guys big bushy ones.
Thisnis the assumption we should all go on, for two reaeons: (1) We don't want to enable the potential persecution or reprisals for an innocent person, and (2) Who actually wants them to catch the guy anyway?
The criminal was already caught. And executed. Problem solved.
They're just mad
he (or she, we cant be sure)they got away
YES
Won't the nearest black person do? Oh yeah, the high definition cameras.
I bet the boys in blue long for the good old days...
Did they say it was the guy? I thought they were saying he was staying with other people at the hostel and this was someone they wanted to talk to, presumably one of the roommates, but idfk
Is this what a saint looks like?
It's what a random guy with a coat looks like
A different coat than the one the shooter wore during the act
An angel
Ah, yes, pre-meditated murder is ok with you.
Ah, yes, zero consequences for building a business off the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands is ok with you.
Surely, surely there's a middle ground right?
This reminds me of the JFK quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
It doesn't seem like a middle ground is possible because those at the top make justice impossible.
Also, other relevant quotes:
When a man is denied the right to live the life he believes in, he has no choice but to become an outlaw.
— Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).
If the oppressor uses violence, the oppressed have no alternative but to respond violently. In our case it was simply a legitimate form of self-defense.
— Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom (1994).
We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere.
— Elie Wiesel, Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech (1986)
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
No there is no middle ground because the wack jobs have moved their side so far from where it should be that 'middle ground' is still deep in their fantasy land.
People have had enough. This is just starting.
We can't afford to be neutral on a moving train.
Now playing Deer Dance by System of a Down
The middle ground is far behind us.
Political action is the middle ground. Guess who makes that impossible?
Life in prison? But seeing as the system is set up to reward not punish these monsters I'm not seeing a lot of options
One dead is the middle ground
They keep moving the bar every time we find middle ground. What do you expect?
Sure, you find it. We've had plenty of the zero consequences, so we're going to putter around in the deleting millionaires and billionaires for a while trying to find that middle ground.
Most people are ok with this yes.
His wife said on the news he "enjoyed life." That claim, however, has been denied.
It wasn't murder, it was an assassination... Of a leader of a company that has delayed the care of millions for paper power. What is one life to many?
This man is an agent of justice. The murderer is dead.
Sometimes the only way to deal with a murderer is to murder the murderer.
In a better society this wouldn’t be the case, but in a society like ours this is the only way someone like a health insurance ceo will see justice for the horrors he inflicts on people.
In this case I’m not upset. How many deaths, bankruptcies, and lives ruined are these ghouls responsible for? Save your outrage for them. Just because their crimes are less dramatic doesn’t make them less meaningful
How many people have insurance executives sent to an early grave?
Why do you hate millions of Americans
Like pouring salt on a leech.
That's not fair to leeches. They're just trying to survive.
leeches also have a useful medical purpose, which is a pretty major distinction.
Self defense tbh, but on a societal level
Trolly problem. Pre-meditated murder is justified when it stops premeditated murders
Even less morally complicated, because you aren't even killing an innocent person
In this case I'm ok with it
We aren't talking about the the deceased, but about the one who killed the murderer who benefited from the suffering of others.
Totally not the same guy
Got em
Holy shit that's Dee? I think I went to school with him back at Ligma University
I met his gf Candice once
Call every tipline and report the person responsible for this death and many others - That person's name was Brian Thompson.
Joe biden is also an acceptable option with his active support for genocide
Whatever makes you feel better about your stupid decision last month...
Everyone's finally getting along and you feel the need to come in and go "bUt WhAt aBouT bIdeN?". Why?
You’re getting downvoted but it’s true, let’s also not forget that our current moderate Democrats, like the Republicans, like our current healthcare system.
I’m not deleting my comment because I stand by it 100 percent. Joe bidens running away from giving weapons to israel the same way horror movie protagonist run away from the serial killer and yet people act like he’s trying really hard and doesn’t fully support what’s going on. Liberal delusions will never cease to disgust me.
Maybe grow up just a tad.
‘Well you see here I’m a mature real politik sort of guy so I accept genocide because thats the mature thing to do. Those woke kids just don’t get it because they’re not mature like me.’
This is not the devastating argument that you think it is.
Support Israel = Terrorists die with a lot of civilian casualties mixed in thanks to human shield tactics.
Don't support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they're all gone.
Hmm I wonder why Israel gets support??
Nobody ever mentioned the Jewish religion but you. Really showing your hand there.
Don't support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they're all gone.
In light what Israel has done, nobody will care when it happens... and some people will react similarly to how working class has reacted about this "CEO" being denied a claim to life lol
Ok dude I'm sick of the "Genocide Joe" sycophants cropping up in unrelated threads all over Lemmy too, but if you're gonna argue with them, at least try to make some sense.
Don't support Israel = Jews get exterminated down to the last man because all of the Arabic countries bordering them openly vow to never stop killing until they're all gone.
Do uh... Do you think every single Jew in existence lives in Israel?
"I got tired of marginally increasing the status quo, so I let orange Hitler take power"
Also, just fuck off outta here.
This man needs a statue and full presidential pardon NOW
Joe can add him to his streak.
Joe biden is no where near cool enough to do this.
Just tell him it's one of his son's good friends. He won't know the difference.
Pardon requires a conviction first.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't even require an accusation first.
This is my understanding too. I just read in the news the last couple of days that Biden was considering handing out preemptive pardons to people like Liz Cheney, etc.
Richard Nixon.
Donnie Darko would approve
Muad'Dib!
The spice must flow.
Smiling, shortly before he made at least 49 million more people smile.
I hope he made plans to get to Cuba quickly and then the Snowden way
He could just come to my house and want for nothing, lol. It'd take about 3 weeks but he'd have a new SS#, ID, and quite a bit of cash in his pocket. This dude has the overwhelming majority of the country on his side. If he went to a Trump-hostile nation, I'd imagine they'd also use him as a torture-poke to jab at Trump regularly.
Bro's got a shit ton of options.
I'm gonna be leaving a glass of warm milk and cookies outside my door in case he needs some dinner. Its accidental! Not aiding or helping in anyway. If he doesn't drink it I'll have it in the morning when I remember about it.
Damn looks young. Godspeed you mad bastard.
Looks handsome. I hope we never learn his name.
When your work speaks for you like this, the name is a red herring.
From what I can gather the disgruntled insurance victim was wearing some of the most generic high end clothing for the new york area. There are so many people running around with similar clothing that they are probably just throwing pictures out there looking for a scapegoat they can destroy.
Doubt, I hope this guy gets away but I believe all the video clips and photos realaed are definitely the guy who pulled the trigger. The police are good at tracking someone down if a rich person gets hurt or killed
Stop spreading misinformation about this beautiful and innocent fella, and if you see them in public, no you didn't, capiche?
They're not even wearing the same jacket. One is a hoodie and the other is a military style, zip-up jacket. It takes about 10 seconds to identify 10 differences in their clothing.
You don't think it's possible that someone who seems to have gone into decent effort planning this out didn't bring two jackets?
Wearing one jacket most of the time and the other while you actually are doing the crime seems like a good idea to me.
Why would he choose two different jackets of similar enough style to catch the attention of anyone reviewing security footage? That type of decision doesn't seem to be one that would be made by someone as obviously competent as the shooter.
That's a good point but I still don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities, I think a lot of things will remain unclear unless he gets caught. Hopefully he never gets caught and this can remain an interesting mystery
You overestimate the cops' competency. They're mostly fascist dumbfucks who only manage to have a career because they're willing to beat or evict all the poor people the department tells them too. They don't solve many cases in general
Haha, he looks like a young version of my partner. He's hot and this makes me realise I definitely have a type.
How many of You have already set this up as their profile picture on social media?
Kinda looks like Jake gylenhall from this angle.
I get a shaved Luis Suarez vibe, right after biting someone: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Su%C3%A1rez
Legend.
https://i.imgur.com/7vB9n38.jpeg
I think this mutha fucka just earned himself a PAHDON!
Joe Biden has the opportunity to do the funniest thing.
I never thought Timotheé Chalamet could be so based.
I've had a similar smile on my face all day.
It's a happy man
I feel like that too, when I think about it.
Proof that doing good things blesses you with good looks
To these eyes it could be a man or a woman. The face has kind of a Julia Roberts vibe.
The thing is Stephen King recently told a story in Billy Summers about how a triggerman fades into the woodwork after a pro hit. And King is someone who only does a bit of research (contrast someone like Chuck Palahniuk).
So yeah, someone who is not quite dressed like the guy getting caught on camera and then held up by police as a suspect sounds like the police being lazy.
It's a hired killer. Follow the fucking money.
Whoever it was, I wanna know if they're available to visit Putin. I would totally help crowdfund that.
You and several nations full of people, friend.
Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations, it's not only going to happen to who you think are the bad guys? Next one could be an opposition party leader or the spokesperson of a minority defense non-profit.
Do some people here not realize that if we start allowing this kind of extra-judiciary assassinations
The fact that he's wanted for murder and is the subject of an active manhunt seems to suggest that extrajudicial assassinations are not, in fact, allowed. In fact, I might be so bold as to suggest that the justice department generally frowns on them.
If you get enough people it's called a coup and it's legal
Edit: I should note, it's only legal if you're white
If the people doing the coup end up writing the history books, it gets called a revolution.
Once upon a time I would have said "Only if you win!" but the orange in chief has disproven that I suppose.
We've allowed it for decades. There's just handwringing now that it happened to a shitbag ceo instead of happening to an unarmed black man at the hands of the police.
It was already happening to Boeing whistleblowers with zero consequences
To be fair, noone allowed it, it just kind of happened. And this is just kind of something that happens after things reach a tipping point in society, it's happened throughout our entire history in one form or another and will be happening all the way into the year 50 million assuming we make it that long
Or maybe even schools. How will we cope when they start going after our kids? Going after women's healthcare providers? God, when will this end...
Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street.
What a joyous occasion.
Depends on the man, I suppose
Not really.
Well, maybe Vladimir Putin, but he's literally a war criminal.
So we've established that there are some people you'd be happy to see gunned down, we're now just quibbling over who qualifies.
“I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure”
I wasn't being serious. Someone like Putin should be in jail.
I don't support the death penalty.
Indeed, having some disconnected powerful authority figure handing out decisions on who should live and who should die is a pretty repulsive concept.
Yeah, if anyone should be shot, it would be that kind of person of course.
I applaud your moral high ground stance, but it's worth saying there's no court that can punish a man like that. They are above the law.
What's your idealist's heart say about what to do about people like that when the system that's supposed to protect us from them is completely and utterly broken?
Good for you, Bono. This fucker had it coming no matter how you slice it.
Disagree there. The world would benefit from a good number of people being unceremoniously air dropped over point nemo.
So we agree there are candidates, we just need to negotiate on where the line is.
Denying life saving medical care seems like a good enough place to start
Tomato / toh-mah-toe.
They are both bad people who got to where they’re at by exploiting people in one way or the other.
Aside of their nationality, how would you consider them different?
Society is deteriorating this is what it looks like...
When CEO cheers at his pay check after denying claims of sick people WHO PAID FOR THIS SERVICE, do you ever find yourself saying:
Yes, killing a man in cold blood by gunning him down in the street. What a joyous occasion.
Now think about it... why not?
It's not a good place for society to be, I quite agree. Yet here we are.
There are probably ways we could change things so that vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs isn't considered a reasonable option.
They won't and we have no voice.
And so, as I said, here we are. In a place where vigilantes gunning down health insurance CEOs is considered reasonable.
We would need a lot more philanthropic billionaires for that to happen.
Actually the more I think of those two words together the more it seems like an oxymoron.
If you gave a fuck about people you wouldn't underpay them enough to earn a billion dollars off their labour.
There's always unknown consequences.
I keep having to go back to the French Revolution- eventually they were executing hundreds of people per day. I'm sure all of them were guilty and deserved Capital Punishment.
Even Robespierre was executed, and the whole thing blamed on him, though he was adamantly against these executions.
We'll never know what would've become of France if a different approach had been taken rather than just start lopping off heads.
France seems pretty chill today, actually. Relaxed people that aren’t afraid to unify and protest when they feel the government isn’t on their side.
The appeal of Le Pen to them is worrisome but humanity as a whole seems susceptible to right-wing populism, unfortunately.
Ah yes, the French Revolution …
THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror … A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
- Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Source: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/989759-there-were-two-reigns-of-terror-if-we-would-but
To quote a recent tv season, there is no prize to perfection
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tolerance should not be considered a virtue or moral principle, but rather an unspoken agreement within society to tolerate one another's differences as long as no harm to others arises from same. In this formulation, one being intolerant is violating the contract, and therefore is no longer protected by it against the rest of society.
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#Proposed_solutions
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I’ve heard this rumor already but haven’t seen a source on it. Thank you
It is for every person denied healthcare by UHC, and to a smaller extent anyone who's ever dealt with an insurance company in general
man
Lizard.