Moderators Across Social Media Struggle to Contain Celebrations of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination
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It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.
It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.
People really hate insurance companies.
You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?
They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.
Still takes more work than just giving them that information.
Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.
Right, this would be a MitM vulnerability, which could be reasonably viable for targeted attacks.
It is almost never a question of whether it's possible or not. You WILL make a mistake. It's just a question of how much effort you're worth as an individual.
right, don't make it easy for them. plus they got prolly got half a country to put on the list now.
When everyone is on the list, noone is.
No, they said we already knew about that and didn’t give it another thought.
They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.
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Help, I'm now physically inside my system, but it's kinda hard to read the screen at this angle. Plus I've got to reach out for keyboard input...
No you don't??
Just use an on-screen keyboard smh
Yeah if they fuck with me they will find for sure.
LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I've ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.
I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.
What?! How?! So I can learn to avoid it!
Maybe it was only-secretaries dot com.
I need a direct link to be sure
People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country's worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles... nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.
“United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.
By definition, none of the kills are his. They're all assists.
Still pretty impressive ratio though
KDA is perfectly valid, some classes just don't do any work themselves.
I would pay for that to be his grave stone
It only costs one bottle of spray paint
They’re gonna have to put this dipshit’s grave on private property.
What I like about this moment is that the people who ought to be fearful are indeed the ones who are fearful. I mean shit, Elon is posting Tweets about how great CEOs are actually, health insurance companies are removing pages from their websites that identify leadership, it's a lovely little pocket of schadenfreude where we can all take a breath and prepare for the next 4 years.
I like the idea that they've got billions of dollars, but will have to live in a windowless bunker eating beans.
They couldn’t even hunker down in their mansions for two weeks of Covid lockdown.
They like to fantasize about it, but the reality of living like that will hit them fast.
This is because they are not self sufficient, at all. They are parasites.
Boot them from our nice society, in other words
We could deny them the right to buy and sell too. Just everybody refuses.
I hope there’s a copycat to reinforce the lesson very soon, or they’ll write this off as a one off.
For the sake of my neighbors and their loved ones and their neighbors and loved ones, please stop permitting people to rule over them
Ive got bullets with words on them and bullets without. But I'm all outta bullets without words on them
He didn't really get "assassinated". He just got denied his critical-life benefits.
Pre-existing condition, lead poisoning in a boomer.
This isn't a generational thing. For a start, he's technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I'm older than him and I'm just as happy about that as everyone else.
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
Which is really really sad. When I was younger I used to think we just need these old people to age out of the system and my generation can do things better. We seem to be doing significantly worse.
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
That's really sad because the younger someone is the more they are going to be fucked by the long term effects of Donald Trainwreck's enshitification of everything. Nuclear proliferation from the new world disorder, global warming, hyperinflation of the national debt due to gigantic tax cuts for the billionaire elites, hollowing out democracy, normalization of corruption, normalization of routine dishonesty, huge economic inefficiencies that comes with wealth inequality, removal of previous rights like abortion, vast increase in government incompetency, etc
While boomer is deff age, when people refer to it online it largely mind sent reference... that parasite pest leeching on working people and feel entitled to do it, indigent when exposed.
You know the type...
He was actually GenX.
You've seen pictures of him right? Just how fucking young do you think boomers are?
Boomer, n. "A privileged asshole who keeps fucking things up for everyone else."
If that doesn't apply to you, they're not insulting you.
You can't just make up a definition of a word.
That's literally how words are made fam
The OED would liy to know your location.
The OED is quite accepting of multiple definitions that develop over time! They love citing first known usage, it gets them hard as diamonds.
The OED, like all dictionaries, goes by usage. One person using a word in a different way, is never going to make it.
All definitions start somewhere, and, just fyi:
"Ok Boomer" wasn't actually directed at boomers before decrepit millennials stole it from the youths. It was directed at people with the toxic mindset associated with conservativism and "old fashioned" opinions on social issues.
The kinds of asshole that climb up a ladder and kick it down behind them.
Everyone older than me is a boomer.
Everyone younger than me is a zoomer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sympathy witheld until forms can be obtained that prove that the bullet holes were not a pre existing condition.
Most humans are born with orifices, I think that counts.
This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.
When society gets to the point where you will die if you don't do anything .... or you will die if you do something ....
Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don't do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.
If you're going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.
I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that, and he just never gets caught.
If he does, it's gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.
Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.
It's a legal defense fund, not a bounty reward.
Granted, they'd probably still do so anyways.
Oh, I'm almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.
He won't be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.
Good point
if this dude gets found he won't make it to trial.
It's been 3 days, and the chances of them finding him go down with every day.
If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They're afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.
They're so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.
Wouldn't that backfire though?
Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”
Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.
Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He'll be a hero either way, the question is how much.
Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it's barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.
Does he have a Patreon?
Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.
Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn't really have any time to enjoy it.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Interesting guy.
Indeed he is. Did you read the SI?
SI?
Essay, sorry
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.
We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.
I'm not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.
I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don't have enough people who hate them.
TBF, we don't know that. Might've been a paid hitman.
The professional killer was the one who died.
According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that's the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.
His DNA doesn't need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It's how they caught the BTK Killer.
I think you're thinking of the Golden State Killer (among many others). BTK was caught through digital forensics, not forensic genealogy.
Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.
No, not that I'm aware of.
Does he have an OnlyFans?
Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.
Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?
This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.
The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.
This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.
Jim bell ftw
Silly tardigrade's playing on the wrong side of the bridge. Do they teach nothing at tardigrade music school?
He's playing Penderecki
TIL. Thank you!
but the piece that truly brought him to international attention was Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima (see threnody and atomic bombing of Hiroshima), written in 1960 for 52 string instruments. In it, he makes use of extended instrumental techniques (for example, playing behind the bridge, bowing on the tailpiece).
The Threnody is definitely his most famous, but he has used that technique in some of his solo compositions for cello as well - example
Oh WOW!
That's...something else entirely.
So violent! Yet also subtle and quiet.
Yields immediate visceral reactions.
The entire instrument is so thoroughly explored.
How does one remember such a piece?
Or keep the original bow and strings to the end?
Striking. Marvelous. Beautiful. I'm all for it.
An amendment of something conjured by it:
It's not safe out here. It's wonderous; with
treasuresvibrations to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid.
Threnody to the Victims of Health Insurance Companies.
It's also not even a violin.
It's hard to tell. It looks deep like a cello, but the bridge doesn't look quite high enough. Maybe at the tardigrade scale stringed instruments are made a little differently.
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I couldn't help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.
I don't want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.
Finding out after you've fucked around isn't terror.
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. This guy's a vigilante.
In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.
You just reminded me of a movie and let's just say I highly recommend it.
On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).
And you just reminded me of a movie from a show and let’s just say I recommend both.
No, it's terror. It's just that that isn't always the negative we've tended to think it is.
Typically we've been citizens in a country on the "power" side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it's bad.
This time we're on the other side of the power dynamic, so it's seemingly.... Good.
The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.
This is a direct consequence of "the war on terror" attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.
To sell the bullshit "war on terror" the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public's sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.
I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.
Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
Yes. And the Israeli hostages.
Marx once said that proletarians won't embellish the terror once it's their turn.
Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.
Good thing there's only 2066 of them. 2065 now.
Just a light drizzle of terror
Technically they didn't fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It's just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.
EAT. THE. RICH.
You know what's pretty neat about this?
It's not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.
While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it's size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.
"Mob justice" is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.
It's not even mob justice, it's vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.
The mob never called for this CEO's death, we're just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn't actively call for people to be killed.
If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.
Yeah, and that's all true, but in the comment I replied to was room for the implication that "mob justice" is a problem somehow.
We're told it would be chaos, some great threat to society, but like, the only examples of mobs that I can think of doing any real damage are groups whose immediate aims were supported by the ruling class. Lynchings in the US south were openly permitted and encouraged by the entrenched white supremacist police state. Witch burnings were encouraged by the state to disenfranchise women from power over their own bodies, and they laid the foundations for capitalism.
Then those horrific examples of state oppression are presented to us as examples of the horrors that await if we were to ever stop bowing to that same state and take matters into our own hands.
Even if the person making the comment didn't intend to reinforce that notion, it's a default assumption for many people and I didn't want it to stand unchallenged.
This guy is probably gonna get folk songs in TikTok by now
We don't know the implications of this. But there got to be something big coming our way.
Ruling class will not have their lieutenant punished like this in a broad day light with out lashing out.
They already despise as is, they gonna step up brutality imho screw here, screw there.
That's just going to pour gas on the fire. The less people have to lose, the more likely they're going to take matters into their own hands.
History is rhyming again.
Suggest reading about the circumstances running up to the storming of the Bastille.
You aint wrong but ruling class can'[t accept one of their officers being gunned down by what appears to be a pleb with vendetta and he get away with it while rest of us cheer him on as a hero.
This is about power, and the the people with power feeling insecure.
Time will tell. I expect things to get worse before/if they ever get better for the working class.
Fuck Around, Find Out?
You got it.
Not a lot of finding out so far though.
Is karma.
I'm telling ya, this is the beginning of A Christmas Carol. The ghost of Thompson needs to visit his colleagues and warn them you too, shall die, and no-one will mourn you and the people will celebrate in the streets. And all your friends will tear into your assets like vultures into carrion.
Heck, replace the ghosts with mobsters and use a trick of time rather than supernatural spirits, and you have a 21st century version of the story.
Dude
I love it.
Get Bill Murray and Bobcat Goldthwait. We're doing this.
Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.
On the 4th of July, American's don't celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.
Thank fuck Lemmy isn't owned by corporate interests that need other corporate interests to advertise on them or it'd be happening here, too.
Something something and I'm tired of pretending it isn't, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he has had young children who couldn't understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.
Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.
I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they'll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.
These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo's kids are stuck on a compound. That's definitely going to mess them up.
They're already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father's footsteps.
Money doesn't fix trauma, and childhood trauma is rarely fully healed. The kids did nothing wrong, and you should feel bad for them.
Like I said, my feelings are focused on those he harmed. Eat the fucking rich.
yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.
They aren't theoretical, he did have children.
Some of those who had claims denied are children.
It isn't impossible to feel bad for both?
What priorities are there? I'm talking about emotions, not actions.
You can feel bad for both the children of this guy that will now grow up without a father and the millions of people he harmed at the same time. I'm not even saying I feel equally as bad for his children as his victims' children (because losing a parent to a preventable death due to insurance is objectively a worse situation). All I'm saying is it's reasonable to feel sympathy for both. It's not like the kids had a choice in what their dad did.
You can feel bad for his family while also not feeling bad about his death. Losing a loved one is hard regardless of how much money you have. That doesn't mean it wasn't ultimately a net positive (although I'm doubtful that UH will actually change any policies because of this)
I feel bad for his kids. They didn't choose their parents.
His wife on the other hand did choose him, so fuck her too.
He and this wife didn't choose their parents either (and any other contributing factors in their environment that made them who they are). Growing older doesn't change the causes of the development of their brain, the cause of the choices you make, and if we could have saved them from becoming the person they did then we should.
With even the most evil people we can be sad they died but also happy they can't do more evil. Uday Hussein, son of Saddam Hussein did some evil stuff and and if we could have prevented him from becoming the person he did when at age 8 or at age 18 then it's the same.
I didn't dispute that?
Well I did not know so until this moment for me it was theoretical. It does not matter but now I know.
Don't forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who've lost children.
Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht...
The shot heard round the boardroom
Plural. Hopefully.
But that might actually solve climate change
oil execs don't even pretend to be one of us... they roll around with full security detail...
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
It's bi-partisan too. Which makes this infinitely more insane
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
A rule for arbitrarily deleting any post on an ill-defined idea that some topics are not political. Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
One of r/InterestingAsFuck’s rules is “No politics,” which a moderator for the subreddit told us is the reason it was removed.
That is such a stupid rule, because everything is politics.
that's some literal communist thinking there mate.
I don't think you know the definition of the words "literal" and "communism" if that's what you think.
I guess the idea of material reality isn't part of communism, good to know.
i don’t know if you noticed what site you are on, most people here are at the very least friendly with the notion of communism even if you were right about this
And they aren't right, to be clear.
they may be friendly with the notion of communism, but apparently don't know much about communist ideology, because according to dialectical materialism, yes everything is political, from where you work, what you have/use, the food on your plate, and even the thoughts you think are all inherently tied to politics as politics is the ordering of society, and society is a core and indispensable part of the human condition
Can you list something non political?
Your mom!
Broccoli.
You don’t think farming is political? O.o
I speak of the Platonic ideal of broccoli, please don't sully it with your crude materialism.
Who came up with this ideal? Why did they define it like that? Are there better ways to define broccoli? Why do we call it broccoli? What's the meaning of politics and therefore political? Who... Fuck.
1: Some Italian I guess. 2: Because it be like that. 3: No. 4: Italians speak funny. 5: Everything but broccoli. 6: Anyone that consents as long as you don't hurt nobody.
Farm subsidies, ad subsidies for that sector, pesticide use and regulation for vegetables, labor laws for harvesting, etc. etc.
Just broccoli. That other stuff is the politics surrounding the pure form.
If you don't think food is political, you're not paying attention. 'Every society is three meals from chaos'
Anarchism. Anarchism is just people working together to topple unjust states with violence if need be. No need for voting or governments or corporations to get involved.
Anarchism is literally a political philosophy. It's profoundly political.
Yeah, but it's less political than everything else drag can think of
I'd actually say it's significantly more political than most. It's a philosophy about the nature of political and economic power.
It's hard to get more political than a political philosophy. About the only way is to find one whose proponents are particularly debate-y and prone to infighting, and fond of byzantine governing arrangements to avoid entrenched or coercive positions of power.
Anarchism is typically focused on opposition to coercive or involuntary ruling arrangements. It's beenpoliticized as being in favor of chaos by people on the powerful end of said arrangements.
Because they're against hierarchy, anarchist social arrangements typically require much more political involvement than others.
In drag's opinion, involving someone in politics without their knowledge or consent is more political than simply teaching them to value and engage with politics of their free will. The consent violation makes it more political.
Also in a liberal capitalist society, everything is politicised because everything costs money. In an anarchist society you just go to the grocer and take some food home. Under a capitalist regime, you have to exchange money backed by the state which represents a social construct of value exchange just to buy some bananas. It's weird.
Less political != Non political
Again, everything is politics.
How?
material conditions mean everything, every action you take, every opportunity you have, every thing you buy, literally all of it, is influenced by politics.
Politics is simply the organization of society, and as a human without society you have nothing, you would have to slave away for years just to make a standard no°2 pencil, and even that is influenced by politics because it takes a society to raise a person.
Why even say such an unreasonable thing when you can just say supporting violence is against site-wide rules?
No one who thinks that hard is still moderating at reddit.
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won't as it's now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you've seen The First 48)
But if he does, it's going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn't heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
At this point, I don't even think they want to catch him anymore. He's already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
If they catch him they will kill him.
Exactly. There's no way they'll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he's dead. The "how" they'll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They'll come up with something, mark my words.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
And then they'll kill him while waiting for a trial.
But the world would know it was murder and not "resisting arrest"
Would that change anything in a country where Trump is re-elected?
The cynic in me says nothing matters and nothing ever changes, the ideologe says it gives people ideas, ideas that build up and can one day turn into action.
Well, let's hope the second part of you is right.
Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think
Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.
I think this is as funny as the next person but realistically what will change?
Won't they just elect another scumbag and keep going?
I'm not celebrating, I just think we should have a massive "Enjoy hell, Brian" wake, on the scale of Boston after the Red Sox won the world series for the first time in 80-something years. But nationwide.
Kind of like being anywhere in Scotland when Margaret Thatcher died.
I've been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.
From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.
Why contain it? Let it spill over to the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg us to save them.
- Bob Page, 2052
Let it spill over to the schools and churches,
That's what the regime wants, whoever executed topic of the current discussion knew that they could tap this raw anger.
Note how witness was left alone... if he killed the witness, this would be a different story.
Clean murder of a corporate parasite, galvanized the public. Zero tears shed, people are celebrating.
There is a lesson for the elites in this... but they won't learn it. They will regroup and oppression will get worse. They will use full force of the state against working people.
This is just the start.
And they will somehow think that they escape unscathed.
Yeap, the more they squeeze the more people will have less to loose. Now that it’s been done once people see it’s possible. People see how it’s being celebrated. Hopefully this will replace shoot shootings. Because politicians don’t care about dead kids but they’ll as hell care about CEOs being merc’d. Maybe we’ll get some meaningful reforms out of this and change some business practices too.
I just want to say I haven't seen "merc'd" used quite so eloquently before, well done.
News@lemmy.world deleted a spicy post from a couple days ago. The fediverse isn't immune but it definitely fares better.
LW is worst at this, they also banned piracy community early on
Because they did not, and still dont, know the laws associated. And rather than actually consult a lawyer, they became armchair experts.
I am not surprised by the LW mods. Its expected.
I am pretty sure .world is paid by the people connected to media/politcal establishment hence why we get a lot of modding similar to reddit.
Although, reddit lost control of asylum, i never seen so much raw hate.
They banned talking about the wrong kind of cat food, for Pete's sake. I'm still not over that one.
And I'll proudly wear my ban from there.
Why the fuck would the moderators care about how much work it is to remove the posts.
One of the mods said (in the article) that to their knowledge it's mostly the paid admins removing it not the unpaid moderators.
The quote I was referencing is this:
“People - Please don't make the life of your mods a living hell. Anything that is celebrating violence is going to get taken down - if not from us, then from reddit. I think all the mods understand that there is a high level of frustration and antipathy towards insurance and insurance execs, but we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good. We are a public group of medical professionals, we still need to act like that.”
The line about making their lives a living hell?
If you ever feel the need to type that in reference to your volunteer Reddit moderation... Stand up, go outside.
Imagine letting an unpaid position on social media "make life hell"
Well, first of all fuck reddit, but secondly: if you appreciate actual human moderation in any significant sense - it's hard work.
Getting paid to do it is rare (again - fuck reddit, they should get off of there) but on any site that's actually trying to honestly build or host a community it takes time to check the reports, message the people, log the entry all that shit. It's a huge pain in the ass when something blows up, which is why neither you or I will likely ever be mods. When it's the scale of reddit it's bound to be a lot of scrambling until shit cools off again.
To be honest, I actually don't really appreciate human moderation, so that's probably biasing my position.
I can block communities. I can block users. I can set word filters.
If I block someone, I never have to hear from them again. If a moderator does, they'll be back with a new account, and then I DO have to hear from them.
I'd far prefer a "federated" and crowdsourced mechanism to layer onto an extremely lightly moderated foundational layer.
If someone, or someones, want to curate a filter list that aligns with my sensibilities, awesome, I'll opt in. I'll contribute. If I bump into unresolvable issues with other filter curators I'll fork the filter.
I don't need or want a tiny subset of users working full time for free getting burnt out or going on power trip crusades.
If someone is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the courts hold the position that corporate profits outweigh human life, then yeah eventually someone is going to take matters into their own hands. The real question is, will this become a trend? For example, would anyone really be upset if all the would-be school shooters look at this as an example of how their frustrations could be used to make a real difference in the world? Imagine if CEOs were suddenly afraid of real-world consequences when their greed hurts people?
If the admins feel like mods aren't doing enough to keep a sub within reddits guidelines, they may remove mods or even ban the subreddit entirely.
Who would've guessed reddit mods couldn't grow a pair even if presented with a ball-growing pill
In fact, a moderator from a subreddit we hadn’t reached out to for comment reached out because they heard we were contacting moderators to speak about this. They said every instance they were aware of of the surveillance video of Thompson’s death being removed had not been moderators—who, as a reminder, are unpaid volunteers—but Reddit’s paid administrator team that enforces the sitewide terms of use.
Sure, I've read both that and r/nursing parts; but I'm talking about those volunteers who do remove that stuff. I mean, yeah, promoting violence bad, and so on, but maybe the twatwaffles who refuse to build a proper universal healthcare system need to see that ppl support the shooter, and not the attempts of the community to censor itself?
Good. Let the celebration continue.
Shareholders can't stop talking about this one trick to make their stocks go up.
UHC cuts costs by $13 million, find out why CEOs hate this one simple trick
Mods should be joining in on the celebration instead, in particular unpaid / community ones like Reddi's.
just wait until tr*mp kills section 230
unsuccessfully.
first shot of the revolution
GOOD! #good
Is anything remotely likely to change as a result of this on a systemic level or otherwise?
TIL Reddit has paid employees, for what they call the "modcoc team".
Went to the post, posted a laughing emoji. I'm French.
The poor News mods here are looking forward to mundane Spam removals at this point.
Fuck 'em.
Insurance companies hate this one weird trick! Find out more at spamwebsite.tk!
How about mundane spelling mistake bans?
Why contain it? S'cool.
My only concern is that I hope this doesn't become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
I think you're underestimating the amount of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" out there.
Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people's most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.
I don't think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.
But how...? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it's the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I'm sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as "the enemy of my enemy" type deal.
Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like "aight, cool"
Until Fox News tells them otherwise.
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That's living up to half the name, I guess.
Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?
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.world is in the EU. The same laws that apply to inciting hate or violence against "The Jews" or "The Blacks" also apply to "The CEOs". And the same laws that apply to Facebook also apply to lemmy.
Everybody who sees the hitman as a social justice vigilante is gonna report back here when we find out it was some personal bullshit, right?