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Valve use a little code from Godot for Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source, Team Fortress 2

1y 3mon ago by sh.itjust.works/u/RmDebArc_5 in godot@programming.dev from www.gamingonlinux.com

That's neat but Valve could do so much more for Godot by becoming a member of the Godot Foundation

Be grateful for what valve already does for gaming.

Edit: apparently this is a controversial thing to say

Why not demand more? Costs nothing for you to ask companies to meet ever-so-slightly higher standards.

Insisting on being grateful to any company in 2025 is wild anyway

Why not demand more?

Because who are you to demand anything from Valve?

It's customers are not allowed to demand better?

You're really weird

You're entitled.

Well, yes

I don't think you understand how businesses work.

I kindly ask you to keep your thoughts to yourself.

Customers

i mean they're free to cry into their massive piles of money if they feel so offended by people demanding things from them

You exchange money for services. Don't act like you're selflessly saving Valve and its poor employees from bankruptcy lol.

Who are you to question that guy's demands?

Upvotes and downvotes are worth the same in the eyes of engagement.

Get a load of this 13 year old.

How much of his moms money did he already spend on counter strike knife skins?

You mean enabling gambling and MTX for an entire generation, normalizing DRM, and taxing indies 30% unfairly?

Yeah they've done a lot of good.

Returns and refunds happened because the EU warned them that if they didn't, they'd create legislation so they'd have to, as they were already in a grey area under EU law. EA had a similar refund policy for games bought through Origin before Steam did.

Other than that, nearly everything you listed was done because it made business sense and would lead to more profit. Decoupling PC gaming from Windows by working on Linux means they're not at the mercy of Microsoft's whims, and was started at a time where it looked like Microsoft might make a version of Windows that could only install third-party software through the Windows Store. Discouraging kernel-level anti cheat discourages one of the last hurdles to Linux being able to play all Windows games. Supporting VR lets them still VR games through Steam.

Not being publicly traded lets them be concerned about their long-term profits above their short-term ones, so they won't do things that tarnish their reputation nearly as often as their competitors, and can do multi-year projects. They look good because their competitors are bad rather than because what they do is altruistic.

Edit: I just did some maths. The Steam Deck has sold somewhere around 5 million units and a Windows licence costs somewhere around $50 to an OEM with a volume licensing deal. Both these figures are approximate as I couldn't find precise numbers, but they're enough for a ballpark figure. This means that Valve have saved around $250 million by shipping the Deck with SteamOS instead of Windows. Even if my figures are way off, it's still a huge amount of money and goes a long way towards making all their work on Linux pay for itself.

single handedly making linux a viable gaming platform for the casual user

Well, not really single-handedly. Most of the work was done by open source communities, Valve's part was mostly in integrating it and normalizing it, making it easy for users and giving developers an incentive to support it. They did their part and I love them for it, but I'm also grateful for all the volunteer contributions to projects like wine and dxvk!

Guess who also made it easy for valve to use it

What does mtx stand for?

I'm assuming from context it's Micro Transactions(x). The X silent though, and also invisible, rather like the P in strawberry

in programming, tx is the abbrev for transaction sometime. also for "transmit" in the context of receive and transmit when a stream (of data) is duplex (both ways). I never questioned the tx abbrev until now, but just yesterday I used it. hmm

edit: apparenty it's pure coincidece between tx for transaction and tx part of duplex abbrevs.

Neat!

Hah, I hear you say that in my head as Bender, while flahing his camera.

Really big flex for godot tbh

very cool :)

Nice, they might as well make Source-1 engine opensource

Doesn't it contain a bunch of licensed code like Havok physics

I think they actually did? The most recent update was the whole source code for TF2 iirc

What the fuck is a Godot? Wasn't that a play?

It's a game engine, like unity or unreal.

How long do I have to wait for it?

if only there was some community about it where you could read more about it

It's a type of plant

Is there anything this woman can’t do?

Act.