White House directs officials to draft proposal to lift US sanctions on Russia
1y 3mon ago by lemmy.world/u/MicroWave in world from www.theguardian.com
Summary
The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.
The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.
Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.
This is so wrong. I hate what we've become. As an American, I've never been proud of what this country has done but I've never been THIS ashamed. I feel like a joke.
There's no more room for nuance. We (that is, our government) are the baddies. Straight up.
So let’s stop beating around the bush at what has to be done, violent revolution is the only path to freedom.
I'm approximately 2,700 miles from DC, so I'll need several days' notice for when the violent insurrection will be.
Can it wait a few more months? I need a bit more PTO. Rent doesn't pay itself.
This is kind of an underrated sentiment. I think a big reason there aren’t more protests and revolting is because we really can’t afford it. The financial impact on each individual can be significant. Employers don’t support time off for anything of a political nature, not even voting.
I don’t believe this situation isn’t intentional. It seems that countries who take two hour lunch breaks and don’t let their jobs dictate their entire lives are far more likely to protest en mass.
Thing is, saving that house now by forsaking the country could lead to that same door being kicked down by the feds in just a few months for that liberal Facebook post you made calling trans people human. Get in the Gitmo van.
The BLM protests were the largest in US history. The fact is that most Americans have been coddled by a stable democracy and don't care if they lose it, as long as someone puts a buck in their pocket. They think it won't affect them because Congress bad, both sides bad.
Of the ones who do care, they think protests dOn'T wOrK because BLM or the Palestine protests failed. Completely ignoring the fact that other civil resistance movements have succeeded and are historically more successful than armed revolts against the upper class.
There is plenty of room for nuance, there's just no nuance to be had.
So rise up against tyranny.
To help Putin, he is bankrupting USA just like how he bankrupted his casinos.
As an American? Surely you mean as a proud member of the new American Protectorate of the Russian Federation, comrade?
APRF, got a ring to it!
Anyway better start being proud or it's off to Gulaganamo Bay...
I have nothing against americans, but this is Hitler level bullshit and if americans dont wake up after this (like revolt level wake up), they are no better than today russians orks or past german nazis sympathizer. Until they get their shit together by getting rid of this orange shit pile, americans can just go fuck themselves...
bUt wE hAvE oUr oWn PrObLeMs. tHiS dOeSn’T cOnCeRn Us.
Fucking shameful and depressing. Makes me realize that slogans like “never again” are not at all realistic because they’ll always be idiots who think shit doesn’t concern them, until it does.
I agree. As an American I didn't understand how this could happen. However, and this excuses nothing, but read the book "They Thought they were Free," by Milton Mayer. It explains how normal people were wrapped up in Germany. It was eye opening.
[From interviews in 1953] The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule
I never considered some Germans still favored the Nazi regime after WW2, or at least not a significant number, especially not otherwise normal people. I've ordered a copy of the book
It was the generation after the Nazis that did all the work to redeem Germany. The Nazis themselves never admitted that what they did was wrong, even when it destroyed their own country.
And of course they felt free. To the mediocre, the hateful, and the weak-minded, "freedom" means power over others, and the Nazis gave their supporters a tiny bit of that power.
Ordinary Men is another very good one. It uses testimony from after the war to establish the story of a real life German police unit and their commander who were ordered to start mass killing.
I'm trying hard not to accuse America per se but recognise that this is Trump and his administration being driven by Kremlin interference and direct involvement.
I cannot see the American people putting up with this nightmare but I fear it's not hitting home as it should.
Ukraine is just a part of a bigger picture where Russia is actively interfering with Western politics, business, governments, elections and referendums with the aim of bringing down the West.
With the traditional USA out of the game Russia will move on to eastern Europe. In the meantime China makes it's move on Taiwan and others in the region; the Trump USA taking Canada, Greenland, Western Europe; the middle east being carved between Russia and Trump USA.
It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better whilst Trump is in power.
I sincerely hope that the military, even red state members, would recognize invading Canada or any of these countries as being a real fucked move and not what they signed up for.
I hadn't thought of it that way before but I think you nailed it. History won't care who you voted for.
I posted this on a Reddit thread, but we have become very dependent on certain technologies. The resistance is taking a while to get warmed up. One of the biggest issues is our communication channels used in the first administration have all been compromised. Twitter, Whatsapp, and Reddit are all being used against us. There may never be a hashtag protest again.
No one thinks this is normal or okay. But there is an air of fear that the secret police tech bros are listening.
FYI if everybody no longer pay their taxes and no longer work, its game over for the government in less than a year and in a peacefull way... (Excluding food, energy and health sector of course, and people will need to be able to rely on their communities exclusively, but lets be honest, in the US its already the case...)
Imagine a COVID but as a national and perpetual strike/protest. Even with a third of the population doing that, it would work.
Even though the EU has been funding Russia with fossil fuel imports? Kinda feels like we're the only country that was willing to make a stand and did it alone while Russia's GDP rose last year.
Is this being reported in the US in the mainstream media?
The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
Possibility? .... this coup is more like watching moss grow over concrete ... it's taking time but it will soon cover everything and everyone is making it as hot and moist as possible to speed up the process
a lot of Americans acknowledge a coup happened about a month ago
A coup? This is what Americans voted for.
Vote suppression was rife. There were over two million mail-in ballots trashed. Black voters' ballots were nine times more likely to be trashed than white voters'.
Yeah well, there were still 90 million who didn't give a shit and stayed on the couch. That would've easily turned everything around.
The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
A US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
It doesn't look like it's being reprinted yet. Reuters just published the story about two hours ago.
You know what would help end the war in Ukraine? Letting Russia keep all their money and having no repercussions for their actions. That should do the trick.
Well it will help end the war, just in Russia's favor
Unfortunately, the EU still didn't even manage to block Twitter and even less to touch Starlink, or send promised money to Ukraine in less than months. I wouldn't hold my breath on anything further out of what they've planned at least 6months ago already, and sanctions against US oligarchs was definitely not on the list.
I think the EU should consider sanctions on select oligarchs from the US.
I can suggest one such oligarch, Elon Musk
All of the billionaires who were mugging for the camera at the inauguration.
Thank you, comrade krasnov. Go to hell, asshole.
damn, seems like I definitely chose the right instance.
<3
You're an awesome admin <3
Word has changed since cold war u know.
The only thing that hasn't changed since then is Russia
This is a total lie. there is no sense to keep funding stupid usaid propaganda - it keeps population dumb
it keeps population dumb
You mean dumb like all those Trump Musk supporters ? Or dumb because educational programs have been defunded, and fed by social media and classic media controlled by the rich men having power ?
Well Russia was doing all this same stuff back the too so I'm not really wrong. They certainly aren't more peaceful these days.
Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.
Very different
Isnt that what us is? Capitalist authoritarian hellscape?
That's why they get along so swimmingly
That's certainly the trajectory Project 2025 wants to really drive home. That's not exactly a defense of Russia.
Yes, but Russia (or at least Putin) hasn't.
He came into power almost a decade after the Cold War ended, so I don’t get what you mean
You're an idiot then. He was literally a KGB agent. This isn't even hard to find information, if you Google him it's on Wikipedia you've done literally zero research.
Oh so being a KGB agent is being the president, got it. Who’s the idiot again?
Which has nothing to do with anything, but I bet it sounded cool in the goo in your numbskull.
Commenting on every post licking trumps balls
I disagree with Trump on many things, just not Ukraine Russia
“I put at least some minimal effort into looking like I don’t just fantasize gargling their balls. Even though I do.”
Trump is so l still a Russian asset. Doing russias bidding
Both Putin and Trump are 80s relics and so it matters little how much the wor[l]d has changed, the cold war facet applies to the blindly pro-russian stance of Trump.
Of all the stances to take, this one is insane. Almost every violent conflict has shades of gray, nuance rather than unambiguous good and bad. The Ukraine-Russia conflict is one of those supremely rare straightforward ones where Russia is just straight up the bad guys.
If china is about to kill you economy, who gives a damn about Russia?b
And u clearly have no historical knowledge of that conflict.
Well yeah, it's part of o365 now.
Kick the US out of Nato and any special status in the UN. Sanction the everliving fuck out of everything US. This will destroy the retirement I was at least partially expecting to get, but fuck it.
Trump is such a master negotiator. Betray our allies, threaten to leave the UN, stop all cyber security operations against Russian, lift sanctions against Russia that are working, block Ukraine from joining the UN, and say that any chance of ending the war has to result in Ukraine ceding stolen territory.
All before negotiations even start. What a mastermind.
Kind of proves there is no deep state right? Feels like they might have given the praetorian guard a nod.
Ukraine is part of the UN. I think you meant NATO.
You are correct
There should be a rule in UN that any threat made to leave UN by the leader of the country should lead to immediate suspension and sanctions from the UN.
If you want to leave, submit a resignation and leave, no theatrics and threats allowed even if you are a TV show host president like Trump.
the UN is just a clubhouse where people agree to talk. nothing more
No country with nuclear weapons gives a flying fuck about what anyone at the UN says, coincidentally, many of them are permanent security council members.
I would like to see mass sanctions on the US. Isolate the crap out of them.
The US is NATO.
neither of those things are possible.
DJT is where he is, because of legalese. and as far as alliances and memberships to intnl groups go, the US is untouchable.
The US is sabotaging its own alliances. They're hardly untouchable.
There is no mechanism to removing someone from NATO, or the UN, especially the UN Security council. literally meaning, there is no way it will be done that will be recognized
a far more effective method would be for protesting nations to leave those orgs themselves. UNSC members could literally drop nuclear weapons on half the world, and still be untouchable in the UN. its a broken system that aimed to add permanent power to the victors of WW2. except, all countries are corruptable.
When Ukraine's president surprisingly shifted towards Russia, the people engaged in civil disobedience until there was a new president.
What will the US do?
Nothing. 50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense
Less than less than a third voted against him.
"In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote."
~ David Foster Wallace
70% of Murca voted for him.
I'm saying they voted tacitly in agreement with everyone that voted for him. Whether they love the man doesn't matter. They supported him by voting with their asses.
I understand what you're saying. I also dispute the 50% number.
I'm saying only 30% of the country voted for him, 30% against, and 40% voted with their asses, making the effective amount of "love" 70%, not 50%.
Approval rating of ~50% notwithstanding, he has a 70% mandate to fuck shit up when we have 40% ass-voters.
I understand and respect your disagreement.
I view it as a trolley problem: if you don't flip the switch, or you love Krasnov, 3 people die. If you do, 1 person dies.
The ones who do nothing and do not flip the switch are in agreement with the Krasnov lovers since there is no "conscientious objector" button at the polls.
And the other 50% thinks that the best avenue for social change is to attack people who don't like the latest Disney movie.
You're framing that as a difference in taste when in reality it was a difference in having shitty bigoted views or not. Haven't you fuckers muddied the water enough?
Exhibit A.
Oh look, another Trumper obsessed with culture war issues that no one else cares about.. I'm so surprised.
Exhibit B.
A US backed coup is not "civil disobedience" lol
kindly, Fuck off.
A couple of suspicious sounding phone calls intercepted from an embassy, when every embassy in the country was having their own discussions about their preferred outcome to the collapse of a government, do not influence millions of Ukrainians who know their own country and government, to take to the streets in a riot over being betrayed over something they voted for.
I mean, where is the guy hiding right now? Where is Zelensky?
Sounds like thats the Ukrainian SBU's business, and no one elses.
you're asking the location of a world leader who has had countless attempts on his life and is actively at war. Do you normally ask stupid rhetorical questions?
I meant Yanukovych ran away to hide in Russia at the first sign of trouble and Zelensky stayed in Ukraine even with bombs falling on Kyiv
Shut the fuck up Ivan
And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office. When will the US media finally start to ask about this?
And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office.
Russian puppet, FTFY.
Or "asset". He may do what Putin wants, but he's not out there decoding messages or leaving dead drops! Yeah, I watched The Americans on FX...
Great show!
No puppet! No puppet! Yer the puppet! —Puppet in Chief
Media? What about the fucking US military and intelligence services?
They don't seem to care about their oath about "enemies foreign and domestic" anymore.
they did that a long time ago
In a few small outlets. I have not seen a big headline on the front page of a national paper, or an opener on the nayor TV networks news.
i believe it was called the Mueller special counsel investigation
And red voters will still find ways to deny that he's Putin's little bitch boy
Whether or not he’s a Russian asset is ultimately irrelevant. All that matters is that he is acting like a Russian asset. He’s doing everything a Russian asset would do. So it doesn’t actually matter if Putin has kompromat on Trump, because he is clearly willing to act like an asset even if he’s not.
Did he run out of fucks?
He ran out of the need to hold elections
He probably did, but right now all that matters is putting out all the international fires the US is starting, or at least preparing to survive them.
Wow! It’s amazing how most of the voters who voted for him grew up hating “commies” but suddenly Russia is their ally. Astonishing.
Russia used to be godless commies, but now it's viewed as a white, Christian capitalist state with a strong leader. It's not, but that's the bullshit Fucker Carlson and other Russian sponsored propagandists have been spewing for the last decade or so.
I like godless commies more than what Russia is now. Sad development
Maybe that's cause Russia hasn't been communist in a long while.
It hasn't stopped people from thinking that "communism" is a synonym for "bad".
What's quite funny is that in Europe there was never really much hatred for communism. It wasn't what we did, but we weren't bothered by it. The red scare was an entirely American phenomenon.
However fast forward 40 years and suddenly it's the reverse. America like Russia and Europe is talking about the threat of invasion.
True
I fucking hate it here.
In Europe many leaders still claim USA is our most important ally. I wonder if they say it.hoping it will make it true, or if they really still believe it?
They're still in the first stage of grief.
We don't call Russia an ally just because they have nukes.
If USA lift sanctions on Russia, they are working against NATO interests, and against a world of law, and against democracy.
That cannot be an ally of Europe, and we shouldn't sugarcoat it.
Here in the UK people have been asking privately if Trump is a Russian asset. It is now being asked openly in the mainstream media.
He is and has been for decades, well before he became president the first time.
Seems to me very likely that he is, why else would he have such a hard-on for Russia?
Why else would he blurt so much bullshit about Ukraine being corrupt, and Zelenskyy a dictator? When we know Russia is very corrupt an a totalitarian country!
There are dozens of examples of similar bullshit comments by Trump, Musk and JD Vance. They are all in it, USA has been taken over by Russian and/or Chinese agents.
They say it because saying the truth (that they're an enemy of all democratic countries) is seen as too risky when they remain so intertwined with other countries worldwide. There are US military bases all over the world, for example.
Many EU leaders like to pretend things are just fine when they're not because it's easier than dealing with the problem. We got lulled into a false sense of security the past few decades and being woken up so rudely seems to be difficult for our lazy asses.
America is gross
America is stupid and selfish.
America is so stupid and selfish that their people constantly make excuses and shift blame rather than admitting the slightest amount of fault.
Does this mean Russia won the cold war
Fuck man.....kinda feelin that way ey?
pretty much, they switches thier strategy to using propaganda and bribing since the 80s;.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
In the Americas, United States, and Canada:
-Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
Sanctions (tariffs) Canada, Mexico, and China. Removes sanctions on Russia. What the fuck?
From Europe it’s crazy seeing the USA getting so close to authoritarian regimes, and so far from democratic ones.
Its not that crazy. It was founded on the principle that a select few have lots of power.
Trump is a foreign spy that managed to gain control of his enemies military.
Yall, the USA just lost the fucking Cold War.
The real lesson is to run down your enemies as they retreat. America failed to do that with the south after the Civil War. America failed to do that with the Sov Union. Looks like the allies failed to do that with the Axis as well. Every evil entity will roll over and beg for mercy with crocodile tears. Leave the people, annihilate the state.
Either recruit people to your side or marginalize and destroy them completely. There's no in between.
It's more subtle. Technically they won, but while they were winning, Russia was buying the power in US. Weird situation now where the winner becomes a vassal state of the loser...
Man, what kind of blackmail do they have on trump?
I suspect they're the ones who bailed him out back in the 90's when he was almost completely bankrupt. They owned him ever since
Did he ever look happy since he was elected again?
VP Krasnov has been a Russian asset since about 1987. They have far worse than the recent pp tapes on him. They have the Epstein tapes.
I think he could stab a child fuck the hole and his supporters would still blame the victim for being DEI.
There is no dirt that sticks to that greasy fuck.
None,
he's a kindred spirit in the genocidal warmongering asshole category.
It's the pee pee tapes. I was clear from 2015, people just didn't care.
About 30 percent of Americans are treasonous cunts and the others have no idea what's happening
Trump is malicious. Most Americans are just plain ignorant.
Ignorance has consequences tho.
And oh boy aren't we seeing that right now
Only 22% voted for him, and a large portion of those fall into the 'no idea what's happening' camp.
Just wait. In fucking Russia, civilians are not allowed to own an AK-47, AKM or any military based rifle. To take complete power, Krasnov will need to stomp on 2A.
I think Trumpism does not need to take away guns thanks to the correlation between Trumpism and gun ownership. Why would they disarm those who support them and carry out their wishes with a degree of plausible deniability, as in January 6th?
Because ultimately, those armed MAGA people's faces are just too delicious for the leopards to resist. There's already been discontent that they aren't seeing the improvements they wanted, and some of them directly getting screwed by Trump and Musk.
As good as that would be and as much as I desire it, my impression is that too many of them are trapped in a disinformation bubble to realize what and who is actually causing their problems. Some might, like the former Republican who shot at Trump and the veteran who blew up a Cybertruck, if I understood their motivation correctly, but I doubt such incidents will ever reach such a scale that Republicans reverse their entrenched stance on gun ownership.
There is some correlation but many marginalized and left-leaning folks (if not outright leftists) seem to be arming themselves, based on my observations at least.
Given how things are going a fair number then probably won't be card carrying Trump supporters for much longer. They're already pretty pissed off with him.
The moron that tried used an AR-15 which shoots a tiny little bullet and not the appropriate calibre. If he had known anything about ballistics we wouldn’t be dealing with this.
That's what you get with a bad education system.
I was taught how to consider bullet velocity and trajectory by the government when I was 20.
You probably also were taught to use at least a 30 calibre bullet like the M21 (which is what the Secret Service used to return fire)
I wasn't being trained as an assassin.
Choosing the calibre wouldn't be my prerogative.
What we were shooting with was just 7.62. Which now that I check equates to a .30cal actually. Never knew that, huh.
I did handle some .50cals, but not a sniper rifle, and I don't know how sneaky I could be with a tripod mounted .50cal AA machine gun.
Tldr basic conscription but I did go the longer way voluntarily and am an NCO. I just recalled some basic ballistics lectures from your comment.
The AR bullet is less than one third the weight and much smaller than the 7.62 round which is why I said it was a shitty choice (and specifically why we still use Korea era armament to this day in the M 21, and 60, mini gun etc (NATO 7.62).
NATO 5.56 Is for ground troops and is designed more to incapacitate
7.62 and 5.56 is basically just a choice.
Thats what made us Finns joining NATO so hard (as in a side from all the politics and just practical matters), because we use 7.62 for all ground troops, especially because Russia uses it as well and wed like to be able to scavenge their ammo if they try any special military operations this way.
We've fucking tons of our own make of a AK variant, the RK. RK62 is decent but the sights are shit, RK95TP is awesome. That was my main weapon, had to keep a -62 for 2 months when I was in a poorer regiment for trainining. (Their boots sucked as well everyone from our brigade got a permit from the doc to wear holiday boots for normal service because they were just so much more comfy, like walking on air vs walking in glass.)
That 7.62 is not the same as NATO 7.62. The AK round has the diameter but not the length, weight or amount of gunpowder.
You are right that it doesn’t matter that much compared to 5.56, for a battle rifle, but NATO 7.62 is much more powerful and weighs a shitload more. It’s what I use to shoot 700m (and as I said above what US special forces still use as the standard sniper rifle M21)
Russia has been using 5.45 since the 70s (The ones with the brown magazine instead of black). I know the Czech SAR models were available in 5.56x45, 5.45x56, and 7.62x39 (NATO is 7.62x51)
You mean our RK 7.62 or the weird Russian 7.62?
I don't know that much about bullets tbh, it's been closer to 20 years since I was in the army. I do remberer practicing the operation and dismantling and reassembly of the most commonly used Russian 7.62 machine gun(can't remember named model whatever but I do remberer the sequence) and that cartridge was way bigger and kinda clunky but still a 7.62 bullet
Edit wait idk that its the most common but was common enough for us to train against
I don’t know enough about your weapons systems. I only know about US (and thus NATO) small arms and the subsequent AK variants up through the 90s. I have no knowledge of other countries’ squad weapons or larger).
I looked it up, nato round is 7.62x51, ours is 7.62x39
The Russian machine gun uses 7.62x54mmR
No knowledge of our squad weapons, so maybe not they much from the squads either. Perhaps... You'd enjoy watching some?
Taistelukenttä 2020 | Slagfält 2020 | Battlefield 2020
Some of it is in English but most is Finnish, some Swedish. Excellent CC no ai-generated shit. It's made by the FDF, Finnish Defence Forces. It's essentially a video of what would happen between an invasion if a.. cough cough Eastern neighbour, happened to attack.
Jeesus, I loved being in the army so much and my nowadays person who uses 95% English is such a different person from the person I was when doing my conscription, that I turned on the CC to check it's okay and every sentence gives me could chills for some reason. I know how to translate this obviously. But it's some weird clash between my English personality and Finnish 20y ago personality. Not bad. Good.
You don't have to be sneaky, just not fucking miss like the gormless cretin that last tried.
I mean, if you're not sneaky and you're setting up a .50cal turret where they're holding a speech from POTUS, I'm pretty sure someone would have some notes on that.
I mean I'm Finnish, not American and I do understand American gun culture is pretty liberal, but is it that liberal?
Edit but oh boy would I fucking love to open up on that cunt on a stage. CHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOKCHOK
But he missed because the bullet he used was too small and too light and didn’t have a proper ballistic trajectory
5.56 effective range out of a 16" barrel is 500 yards. Trump was a mere 400 feet from Crooks.
"Brandon Webb, a former Navy SEAL and the former head instructor of the SEAL Sniper course, said a well-trained shooter could shoot very accurately with an AR-15 at the distance at which Crooks shot Trump, especially with a magnified optic such as an ACOG sight."
Dude missed. The weapon and projectile are more than capable of delivering an accurate and lethal hit at that distance.
TL: DR, Skill issue.
Also, don't aim for the head. Jesus. Aim for the chest.
And why only one shot? Keep pulling that fucking trigger.
Crooks did keep shooting... He killed one person and hit a few others.
Doesn't work when the target is wearing discreet body armor, and the impact has to be instantly lethal. Trump isn't, going to bleed out (they pre-deploy emergency services to large events) Even a lung hit isn't going to kill fast enough. So center mass become "pretty much heart only".
Shooting for the head and neck is pretty much the only option in that scenario.
No he was well within range for a 5.56. the problem was his scope wasn't sighted in correctly and he sucked at shooting. https://youtu.be/ulh88aBI0iU?si=_ZJAgSCRon2MX-sUAt about the 5 minute mark he gets into the incorrect zero.
Just because it is in range doesn’t mean it’s appropriate
It was the wrong calibre for what he was doing. The wrong platform for his objective.
I can but 4” clay pigeons at 50m with a 9mm pistol but I should use something else.
Idk man it was less than 200 yards. The military does qualifications out to 500 with the same caliber. Right after it happened every journalist was out there saying it was an impossible shot, which it wouldn't be for a reasonably skilled shooter. If you look it up most folks are saying 5.56 is effective out to 600 and a skilled shooter can group at 1,000 or more.
Idk why I'm arguing about this the kid was a useless shithead, just wish he'd done better I suppose.
That event was staged, look at Krasnov's fucking ear. No scars!
You underestimate plastic surgeries
Does anyone else remember the 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton where she accused Trump of being a puppet for Putin, and he interrupted "No puppet, no puppet! You're the puppet!"
Or when Alnur Mussayev, the Russian officer who served in the KGB's 6th Directorate in Moscow, said that Trump was recruited as a Russian agent in 1987, under the codename "Krasnov", when he went to Russia for a "real estate project".
Remember when the SS lost all of their communication records from Jan 6th?
Europe please be ready. My tea leaves are pointing towards the use of nuclear weapons in Europe while the us is distracted with civil unrest.
Codename Krasnov sure giving a lot away to Russia for nothing in exchange. Is this the Art of the Deal?
The Art of the Deal with It.
Get ready for weapon sales for Russia!
the secret service will be extra busy.
Reward your friends, punish your enemies. Trump showing that he views Russia as an ally, and Canada as a threat.
though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump already got what he wanted, what even is this statement?
Elon gets battery ingredients
Watch how many US companies immediately get right back in there, like flies on shit.
Many of them never left.
Yeah I figured this would happen. And when the cost of gas goes up because of his Tarrifs we'll be buying oil from Russia again..
IM FEELIN THAT GOOD OL SHERMAN BURN TO DO AWAY WITH SOME TRAITORS TO THE UNION
That sounds like a plan to me.
*November 8th, 2016
Officially? Jan. 20, 2025
Uh, very briefly for 4 years between 1941 and 1945, and then more or less at war at all other times of history.
Republicans have always loved Russia and the Commies right?
oh you see Russia is actually, and Im being 100% serious when Im saying this, a bastion of capitalism. its the end result of capitalism.
its just the crony capitalism where society has regressed into a class structure with peasants, nobles, and all of that.
Is there another form of end stage capitalism?
Lol, bending over for Russia when they've done absolutely nothing toward peace. Trump is such a big strong man.
This feels suspiciously like traitorous activity.
Is it because of the way it is?
Fight Canada, help Russia. How in the hell are Republicans just watching this happen? Cowards and frauds, all of them.
As Trudeau said at the top of his speech yesterday:
So today the United States launched a trade war against Canada, their closest partner and ally, their closest friend. At the same time, they’re talking about working positively with Russia, appeasing Vladimir Putin, a lying, murderous dictator.
Make that make sense.
I can help. Trump, the fascist wannabe dictator is putins bitch.
Does this need to go through congress?
I doubt that will make much of a difference what with both houses being controlled by the GOP.
The house's majority is slim enough that 2 defectors are all that's needed.
Zero faith in these bootlickers.
Only if Congress specifically passed the sanctions. Usually it's a bill that directs the president to sanction people fitting a description. Which effectively makes it a decision for the president.
String up the traitors
Is he actually trying to crash the US economy on purpose? Or is he that detached from reality?
Krasnov Trump scammed his investors, loans and bankrupted his casinos. He is doing the same to US to enrich himself.
BRUICS incoming?
CRIBSUS
Trump got ties with russia...
Ties that look a lot like puppet strings.
I've commissioned an art piece of Trump sucking Putins dick. Will share when it's done.
I’ll keep saying it till we are all on the same page
I'm surprised it took this long. He's already selling U.S. citizenship to Russian mobsters, so why not let them run wild and finish what you started - destroying America.
…and inviting Russians into the oval to watch and report to president Putin as he bullies Zelenskyy. Good job, Murca, and good job, VP Krasnov. Vance did a good job too.
Art of the deal: give Putin everything, let him finish in your mouth and ass. Get nothing in return!
Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.
It couldn't have been done without the groundwork he laid.
I didn't know people could spin from pure happiness. This can all be traced back to him, I bet the only thing he'd be mad about is that he couldn't be king too.
It’s like that scene at the end of Training Day when the Russian mob comes to kill Denzel Washington but it’s America.
4D chess right here, put economic stress on our allies, but try to help out our enemies.
If we dont know what we are doing, the enemy certainly cant anticipate our future actions!
Under Orange Krasnov, Lada, Kamaz, GAZ, etc...will replace the Big Three. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
something something treason
Congrats to Putin, he really knows how to play stupid people.
If this is about ending the war, where's Ukraine's voice in these discussions?
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though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return
Unclear to who? It seems to me that Trump wants to gain the favor of Putin. Why is this unclear? Is the Guardian too afraid to make this accusation? For someone like Trump that is always looking out for himself, it's unlikely he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart.
I’m so close, pwease wet me cum daddy Putin
- Donny J Trump
Prem'yer-ministr Ameriki Trump
If you are a greedy person, the bigger Russia has a lot more to offer than protecting smaller Ukraine's freedom.
The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.
Yeah that's definitely the reason they're doing it.