You're gonna need a lot more than 2!

My inner monologue even said “2 delta V… wait.”

That and Nvidia blindsiding them with 'cool engine you've been working on for a decade there... you have one year to jam realtime raytracing into it.'

i was a day 0 PC owner and it was 100% normal launch day fuckery.

From the same website:

Pondsmith revealed that he’s not as involved with the second game as he was with 2077, but said he’s keeping track of its progress. The game designer went on to claim that the sequel will feature Night City, as well as a second, unspecified location.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/cyberpunk-2077s-sequel-features-a-second-city-that-feels-like-chicago-gone-wrong-reveals-creator/

So it'll have a new city as well as Night City. Which is good - Night City has more stories to tell. All the TTRPGs were based in NC, as was Edgerunners. Leaving it behind completely would be wrong.

The Saints Row devs are cackling right now.

Yes, all of them. Wouldn't hurt to fit more Deus Ex DNA in the game either.

Very well put. I feel the same.

I can see this perspective, for sure. I definitely didn’t click with this game quite as much with the first go through, but it was the second time where I wanted to build something specific and get into the world more that I had a lot more fun.

You definitely have to suspend your disbelief with the “ticking time bomb” and I wish the story canonically allowed for exploration after the ending, but I also see how that wouldn’t work that well with some of the endings.

I think they ultimately had to choose their battles and I’m hoping for a bit less of that in the sequel if anything.

Probably update 2.00. They completely redid the game balance, about half of the damn RPG stat related mechanics, and reworked a decent chunk of the iconic weapon effects.

Notably, they removed the Overwatch sniper's wall piercing. Intentionally. There's mods to revert that.

The worst i hear is its games tend to be kinda unoptimized, but how much of that is the devs not being given enough time to optimize the game before release and how much is just the engine being bad idk. I used UE4 a lot and it was pretty smooth sailing for the most part, but maybe 5 got worse in some aspects.

Thats a fallacy. You're essentially saying because one company was able to fix their shit, the systemic problem isnt real. Thats not the case. Look at the broader picture. Companies are consolidating, building massive conglomerates and the market is hostile towards its customers.

I really enjoyed it and didn't experience any bugs as I waited for it to be sorted. It was also one of the rare games that held my attention long enough to finish, so that's probably why I think highly of it. Love that I'm being downvoted! I'll know not to bother contributing my opinion next time.

The difference between CDPR and Bethesda is CDPR games always end up being all time greats though. That's why I don't get influenced by the hype, and keep faith in them as developers, as well as their move to unreal engine

I played Witcher 3 a few months after it released, and it was nearly bug free, and certainly lived up to most expectations. It had a massive world, every inch of which was crammed with fleshed out interesting stories and characters with character. It was a breathtaking experience from the start, and if it had a few things to work out in the initial weeks, I can understand that.

In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to "bethesda jank" where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.

It got better over time, until just before the "big patch" came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).

Honestly i prefer, pre-"big patch" but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.

So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it's actually pretty good.

An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it's actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).

TBC I'm not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.

Right now is where it should have been on release.

A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That's not a simple "rocky start" the released a pre alpha at full price.

Literally the best action RPG that exists.

Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It's not even an RPG. It's a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn't crack the top 20.

Umm okay? Cool fact bud

I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the game at release, or after they patched in all the intended content?

Outside of what I assume you mean by the "scripted gameplay" of the main story there are dozens upon dozens of side quests and weird little points of interest to discover (well over a hundred, easily). A lot of them help to elaborate on the setting in interesting ways. What exactly were you expecting that the game didn't deliver on?

If you consider this anything more than a FPS game with cyberpunk aesthetics, I weep for your perception of quality

Way to show your opinion is less than worthless. If you're too stupid to admit CP2077 is an RPG: that's on you

Okay but I don't know anything about the boardgame. I'm judging the game based on the game itself. It's a cool game set in a cool Cyberpunk world.

Which one was the most recent? I always mix up the last two. But yes, generally. The last one is still a buggy mess, sadly. Cyberpunk is not btw.

There are occasional appearances of trans flags and a few characters who may or may not be LGBTQ, but the majority of the characters appear to be cisgender and heterosexual.

Imagine completely ignoring a canonically trans character to try to dunk on a game. Also softballing that "may or may not" when half of the romance options are homosexual.

"....its portrayal of trans characters is anything but progressive. Many gamers have criticized how Cyberpunk 2077 and its developer, CD Projekt Red, choose to fetishize and commodity trans bodies and trans identity."

That's.... the entire point. There is a big, big difference between how CDPR feels about transgender people, and how the Late Stage Capitalist Pigs in Night City treats trans people.

Yes, the advertisements in the game are gross, they're supposed to be. Human beings are treated like garbage in 2077. You were never supposed to look at these ads and be like "Hey, this is totally cool and normal." If your reaction was "This is gross", that's exactly how you were meant to feel. It was supposed to make you reflect upon the culture the game takes place in and realize how messed up and broken it is.

You don't (I sincerely hope) watch a film and conclude that the views expressed by the villains of the piece are the views held by the actor or director do you? There is a reason Ad Agencies in Cyberpunk treat human beings as commodities, because that's exactly how they view them.

"Obviously, Cyberpunk 2077 presents a dystopian society rather than an aspirational one. Trans identity is treated as a product because everything is a product designed to be sexualized in this future. However, there's never any contrast established. With other elements of Night City, players see how the commodified image contrasts with the rougher, harsher reality. This is not the case with LGBTQ characters, especially not trans characters."

One of the main characters in the game is a trans woman, and she isn't fetishized in any way. There are also some very prominent LGBT characters, and they are treated respectfully as well imo. The person who wrote that article never even played the game and it shows. It's possible the "reviewers who have played anywhere from 40 to 60 hours have yet to encounter any meaningful trans NPCs." simply missed the fact that Claire was transgender because no one makes a big deal about it, but it is most definitely mentioned. She has a trans pride flag on her racing truck as well.

Edit: The same is true of the Gay and Lesbian characters as well. The "reviewers" may have missed that that's what they were because they are not treated as if they are different, they are just treated as people. You wouldn't know whether they were or not if you didn't spend the time to build a relationship with them so that flirting seems natural. I think that is actually really heartwarming, despite all the brainwashing by the corpos, (the people that V interacts with at least) don't seem to really have been affected by it.

E: In my first playthrough, I was a * "Male" V. Another one of the main characters is a woman named Judy. After spending dozens of hours with her and going through hell together we became really close friends. Then there was this really sweet 'mission' where Judy took me scuba diving and basically opened up her heart to me and told me what a good friend I had been to her. I awkwardly made a pass at her and she just gently brushes it off to let me know that I was barking up the wrong tree. I could easily see someone spending 40 hours in the game not having a clue what Judy's sexual orientation was- especially if they were a jerk to her.

E: With a couple of the guy characters it gave me the option of flirting with them, which I didn't try because my V was already in a relationship with a different character. After beating the game I still had no clue which one would have been receptive to my advances, I had to look it up. Basically the game seemed to be saying that someones sexual orientation is really none of your business unless you are tying to get with them.

E: * "Male" in this instance just means masculine voice and body type, sex organs aren't factored in when determining who you are able to romance.

During character creation you can choose genitalia for your character independently from their 'body type'. You can also choose a 'male' or 'female' voice artist for V no matter how your character looks. I don't know of any other game that let's you have that sort of freedom in character creation. This game let's you be whoever you want to be in a way rarely (if ever) seen in other games.

"Cyberpunk 2077 never makes an effort to reflect on this fetishization, which erases any possibility of satire or social commentary. If a game presents transphobic advertisements and never addresses these depictions, it just regurgitates and upholds transphobia."

Cyberpunk treats players as if they aren't idiots, as is the case with any good satire. The idea that it must specifically call out any bit of satire it's doing or 'it doesn't count', is insulting and ridiculous. Would "Monty Pythons Life of Brian" have been a better film if at one point the main character had turned to camera and said "This is just like Jesus, get it?"

After the tweet received massive backlash, the social media account responded with a non-apology.

The fact that they used CDPR's apology as proof that they weren't sorry is just... come on. Calling it a stretch seems inadequate.

I just think it's really tacky and gross to do a surface level scan of a piece of media you haven't personally experienced, put no thought into it, and then write a hit piece to get clicks on your website. There are plenty of actually transphobic assholes out there to call out. At the very least CDPR got people talking about these issues, name 3 other games you can say the same thing about.-

Oh great. Dead twitter links and so screenshots.

"very well now" xdd

That's not what pandering is.