Elon Musk allegedly took large amounts of drugs including ketamine while advising Trump – report
1y 23d ago by lemmy.world/u/Yawweee877h444 in news from www.theguardian.com
Quite noticeable
Unmistakable, even.
What do you me-
Oh.
thats his cocaine binge. even DT knows when to not get high on coke.
Indubitably, some may say!
You know, this is the libertarian argument for drugs and hookers for me. This stuff is already legal in the US, but only if you're rich enough. I just want it to be legal for everyone regardless of whether they're billionaires.
Cannabis is the stupidest example imo, it's criminalisation causes more harm than good, it's the kingpins and people profiting off of prisoners, pushing and advocating for continued criminalisation.
Private prisons are one of the worse outcomes of austerity, it encourages laws like this just to send as many poor people to prison as possible just so they can line their pockets, the most braindead one being the conjoined enterprise laws in the UK, which is a perfect case study as to why austerity which is musks entire strategy for economic prosperity, is a grift which is only ever capable of working for your government if there's a scapegoat which you can blame your economic strategy failing on.
The only real issue I have with smoking weed is the lung cancer bit, but cigs apparently are perfectly fine 🤷♂️
This stuff is already legal in the US, but only if you’re rich enough
YES! However, EVERYTHING is legal in the US, if you’re rich enough or have some sort of connection to the rich - see Jan 6 folks.
Using ketamine recreationally to get high isn’t legal
And yet, when is Elon's court date?
If a law isn't enforced, then it functionally doesn't exist. If the law only exists for some of the population, then it's a tool of oppression.
"What am context?"
Well, not entirely. We can get into a lot more good reasons why drug laws and prostitution laws are ass, but, I mean, yeah. Being rich doesn't make you above the law. If we're unwilling to enforce it on the wealthy, we shouldn't enforce it on the poor.
Without liberty and justice for all, there can be no one nation indivisible. Calexit!
Look, I'm open to a more nuanced conversation. I believe in regulation, not bans, not oppression.
Which do you prefer
- All laws apply to everyone
- All laws apply to poor people
- Some laws apply to rich people
- Some laws apply to everyone
Ya but just for the fun stuff like drugs.
Because once the laws themselves make sense, it would no longer make sense to call them "drug laws". They would be called "free health care" and "social workers".
Hey, can't a guy dance around the room with a fucking chainsaw without people making allegations anymore?
There literally was a video of him nodding off, high out of his mind during the inauguration.
Was that before or after he gave two Nazi salutes?
Kinda lost track TBH.
I mean, come on, who hasn't danced around a room with a chainsaw before??
Seriously, folks need to let loose lol
Fascists love their drugs don’t they?
The Fascism-to-Incontinence pipeline is real.
To be fair we all love our drugs. Unless you like to be sober, that's cool too.
Edit: Musk is a piece of shit either way, no excuses there.
Yeah but there's a difference between smoking a bowl in the comfort and safety of your home versus taking mind altering substances while making major economic and policy decisions for a country...
Eh, potato-potato.
That particular expression doesn't quite work so well in written form
I agree. He's a major problem, no question about it. Not only because of the drugs either, but in general. The damage he's done to your country is measured in lives lost, not money, in my opinion. The money part is just the tip of the iceberg in his case.
I'd like to see more decision makers be under the influence to be honest. Musk is just getting hate because he's "on the wrong side" against the hippies who at one point loved the guy a few years back. Societal consensus is fickle muse and sheep jump on the latest fad of hating someone prominent.
I'm pretty sure the problem is they're so quick to throw someone in prison for doing the same thing and regulate what poor people are allowed to take whilst taking it themselves.
Well. I would argue that drug use is all about hammering reality into a tolerable/enjoyable shape. Fascists by definition also transform through force. The key distinction seems to be a drug user themselves become transformed through chemical force, where as the fascist forces others to change using violence/threat of violence. In both cases though, there exists a certain egomaniacal reluctance to meet the terms of reality, and instead attempt to change the terms through force. There is a very consistent common bond between the hyper wealthy, the tyrannical, and the drug dependant, to be very stubborn and narcissistic. In all three, the ego is driving the bus, and there is some corruption with self esteem. In all three there is a fundamental inability to accurately assign value. A lot of money/power/release is never enough. The only acceptable amount is "more". And the compulsion to find more: wealth, or power, or opportunity to use substances, becomes the whole point of waking life. Until it's just you and the compulsion in the world alone, and every thing and every one else is just a puzzle you solve to get more like a rat in an experiment. Long story short, people at odds with reality tend to use similar and often overlapping tactics to get by. What do the tyrant, the drug addict, and the billionaire all have in common? A singular focus to fill an unfillable hole.
Starting with Religion.
Everyone loves drugs regardless of political leanings. Everyone is just hypocritical when it comes to the one they like, even you I bet :)
There is no scientific evidence for your claim. Gibberish.
Give all of them legal access to any drugs they want in copious quantities. Encourage them to take more. Let problems solve themselves.
We call that the applause, because everyone's got the clap.
and/or chlamydia.
Jesus Christ, I almost became a water fountain at my desk mid sip.
You get turned on by some weird shit.
No comment.
I'm all for this.
Can't solve the fentanyl crisis without knowing what it is, right?
Also, give them submarines
A Titanic idea
If standard TV is any measure, eventually they'll all die of Fentanyl overdoses.
DUI hire
Underrated comment.
"Allegedly"
Dude was caught grinding on camera. Nothing alleged about it.
no waaaaay! really? wow.... positively shocked
Another junky trying to run our country.
He's more ketamine than blood
I just got a three day ban from Reddit for saying he should up his intake by 10x.
Why are you still on Reddit?
Don't kink shame. A humiliation fetish is perfectly respectable.
Because not everyone has an autistic level of dislike for it.
I could see why you were banned from reddit.
is that news?
he's visibly high in some videos
When people do stupid things you might ask them "are you on drugs?" Sarcastically. In this case it was a serious question. At the highest level.
Has anyone else noticed that we don't have many dystopian/apocalyptic movies but way more documentaries these days?
He should've gone with that angle after the sieg heils. "Sorry bros, my bad, I was just stoned off my monstrously deformed and hideously botched nuts".
I hate Elon as much as any sane person, but who gives a fuck about "allegedly"? Wake me up when there's an actual story.
Because unless it's proven by a court, they have to write allegedly.
This changes nothing, and really shouldn't surprise anyone bc most people just assumed he was, based on his constantly bizarre behavior, from doing a fucking Nazi salute on stage to the micro moments like when he looked like he was glitching/buffering during Trump's inauguration.
Given that the administration pretty successfully managed to gaslight the entire nation after two nazi salutes, that we all saw, I doubt we would even be seeing so many negative headlines about Musk right now if the narrative wasn't intentionally being shifted that way by people in the white house. He went from the untouchable dark force who was running the country, to the guy in the cheese hat that annoyed everyone and who gave himself bladder issues by doing too much ketamine.
Thiel got him to serve as the face of dismantling the federal government, and then pushed him aside once Kratsios was confirmed by the senate. Stealing government data to dump into AI was something they have had planned since Trump's first administration. They just needed a public scapegoat, and Musk was more than willing to take the bait.
That said, have people seriously forgotten that in every headline any accusation is always "alleged" even if it's something like rape or murder?
They've been slipping on that with Mangionw trial coverage at a definitely-more-than-coincidental rate. Stop giving massive institutions with crystal-clear motives the benefit of the doubt.
Oh. Good point. I admit I got ahead of the facts there, so thanks for that.
So much upvotes/activity from people on these kind of empty headlines, and it just weakens the cause against fascism in my eyes.
Yes and..... Is he going to face drug charges.
Yeah, you could tell. This isn't really news, just a confirmation.
No surprise there. It's good is being called out.
The sad thing is, I think his sentences are a little more complete and coherent than Trumps' even in his drugged out state.
That's not a high (heh) bar to beat
Can you overdose and die from ketamine? Can he...? Please??
No, but it lowers the iq ...
You most certainly can OD on ketamine and die.
It's actually pretty hard, unless you're like Matthew Perry and you've got a doctor administering it to you in the bathtub (while on a cocktail of other substances). You're going to become incapacitated long before you can administer enough to yourself to end your life... It will fuck up your bladder if you abuse it long term though (and apparently he's having these issues).
The LD50 for ketamine is very high, which is why it's used as anesthesia for toddlers.
The real move would be for his provider to just slip a tiny amount of fentanyl in there...
And the sun rises in the east.
Hopefully he’ll OD in a pool or something!
I wish Trump would take some shrooms. It might make him more human.
It does help with empathy and unresolved trauma, but Trump seems to be so broken that there's no fix to it
This because he's the trauma. Inflicting it on everyone around him from the moment he was born.
If his mother took shrooms she woulda aborted him by blowing up both Fred and herself.
I'd rather he develop a fentanyl habit.
Least surprising headline of the year.
in other news, the sun is hot
The following people would be surprised to hear that.
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I'm shocked, just shocked that and unhinged drug addict would be doing drugs. Who could have possibly known that would happen? If only there was someone who could have warned us like literally fucking everyone already did.
i think he rotates drugs, everytime he comes off a specific drug, he goes on a different drug everytime.
What? Somebody thought he would stop his habit after taking office? Also when in Rome, get high with the Romans... I don't think Trump even switches on without the right substances.
No shit
Nope, only ketamine, ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms
This is news?
Isn't there also photographic evidence of cocaine use by world leaders? The very idea in an age of cheap-as-dirt fake AI "photographs" is hilarious to me.
Macron recently got caught. Don't Jr got caught at a SpaceX launch numbing his gums. It's annoyingly obvious that there are different rules.
Source for Macron?
I think this is what they're referring to: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/14/factcheck-was-cocaine-on-the-table-in-macron-video-with-starmer-merz
Alex Jones believes it was cocaine, Al Jazeera doesn't. I'm inclined to go with the latter.
From what I see on the google, it's either cocaine or just crumpled up tissue paper. It's likely the latter but you decide for yourself.
Yes I always guiltily cover my tissue papers when people enter the room.
You might want to if you are world leader, you don't want people to see you're a slouch.
Good point. I thought they'd all have bedazzled Gucci coke pouches, no?
No, only people I disagree with get caught with drugs. Other people simply have tissue papers or medical conditions.
"Allegedly" and "reportedly" are magic words that keeps the lawyers away, since no media company actually wants the liability of being an authoritative source of information.
Because it's standard
None of this shit is new, Biden had them ignore it, and so did trump the first time.
Biden should have yanked every single contract, instead he made multiple and constant exceptions for Musk's companies.
The CEO of a company with government contracts blatantly spiraling into drug induced psychosis did nothing but normalize it.
Like, why do people honestly expect trump to be better than Biden? Why would you ever think trump might possibly do the right thing after Biden wouldn't?
trump and Biden might both be bad in the same areas, but Trump's admin will always be worse.
Source: we could see it.
The K-hole A-hole
Did they think he would just stop after they "hired" him?
We know
Not enough drugs to redeem his incredible amounts of evil and cringe
No AI is gonna out hallucinate me!
Seems about right.
so suprised.... not. billionaires arent people.
No.
Fuck this guy. Let him be the most sober person who did what he did, when he did it. No excuses.
You cannot be the one person who constantly suffers throughout your entire life because you made one poor decision while intoxicated once, while this guy literally has billions, and is the richest person on earth. The news is covering him, and making fucking fake excuses for him.
"Roman salute"
They should all be re-labeled as performance drugs, if that's the case.
Source of this"report?" Don Jr upset the strong-case-for-more-chlorine-in-the-gene-pool wouldn't share..?
I hope he has bladder cysts...big ones
Seems most of the people feel confirmed yet.
In other news,sky continues to be blue
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Every last one of them is an addict of some sort. His Secretary of Health is a heroin addict.
DJT, himself was a adderall/cocaine user, to the point he became incontinent.
This is your country on drugs.
We know.
I hate that ketamine has to take the brunt of this...
This is not how ketamine makes people behave.
Depends on the dosage. More than a little but less than too much and your body becomes that of a drunk toddler. But yea most people using ket are chiller than him lol
It doesn't turn you into a psychopath. This dude is just a piece of shit who happens to like ketamine (and has the resources for basically infinite supply)
This is not how ketamine makes people behave.
A shot of tequila won't make me shit on your doorstep, but 5-6 bottles in an hour who knows what's gonna happen.
There's a difference between use and abuse.
Musk has not been using it medically, even if he paid a doc to write a prescription.
What's the opposite of "news"? Because "news" implies things/stories/topics that are new.
Would "olds" be an acceptable term?
That is going to one hell of a hangover.