A week ago, a MAGA pastor assassinated two Democrat politicians in an act of terror. It's not even in the top three stories of the month
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People's minds are growing numb to the madness. This is very similar to what happened in Soviet Russia in the five years leading up to the collapse of the government.
It does seem rather similar to the collapse of Soviet Russia. Increasingly little confidence in the government by citizens all across the country. States that increasingly aren't seeing any benefit in existing as part of the union. Its quite uncanny actually.
There are differences of course bcz there isn't as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
I really dont want to find out whats on the other side of that scenario for us, but it doesn't seem completely unlikely.
Some voted to destroy the United States. Others were failed by the educational system and the media. Irrespective of cause, there's no going back. We're now in a place where "fuck you I've got mine" and "make me" is the basis of our formal society that only recognizes power in all its forms. I do not know what the future holds. I can only say that if this year were a taro card, it's Death, as what was changes into something new an unrecognizable.
I figure we'll see smaller inter-state alliances forming into regional powers. Most likely all of the states that have larger populations will gain a lot of power relative to those with smaller populations. In all likelihood the stratification of wealth will accelerate even further into an absolutely obscene spectacle. The oligarchs will win, in the short term at least, if the federal government falls.
California, Oregon, and Washington kinda do already. All three states often tie legislation to the other two states also passing it. Like locking daylight savings in place if Washington hadn't dropped the ball.
dropped the ball
Saved the ball you mean. Daylight-saving time is a curse which should be abolished not set in stone.
At this point I’m down for either daylight time or standard time as long as we stop changing back and forth!
I’ll grudgingly accept that as less awful than our current arrangement.
Spring/Summer/Autumn time should be made permanent; Winter time should be abolished. Stop stealing the only unallocated hour of winter daylight we get for ourselves.
Buy Little Johnny a PT Belt and a flashlight for the three weeks a year he has to walk to school in the dark, and give him an hour after school to play outside with his friends.
Those are called interstate compacts, and they tend to be specific to individual laws. I was thinking more along the lines of military alliances, so kind of a more advanced form of this type of political alliance-making
There was the Western States pact from the beginning of the covid-19 pandemic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_States_Pact
Balkanization comes to mind
There are differences of course bcz there isn't as big of different ethnic groups concentrated throughout the country ready to start their own countries bcz they never wanted to be part of the country in the first place.
You sure? Black separatism was big in the 60s and 70s, and once the dissolution of the Union filters into the wider public consciousness, you'll probably see Latinos want to do their own thing.
Yes, yes I am sure. We are not the Soviet Union. Our countries collapse may rhyme with history, but it is not exactly the same. We are a country founded by immigrants. Russia was not founded by immigrants in the same way. It has existed in some form for at least a thousand years longer than the U.S., maybe more
The documentary, HyperNormalisation, was made nearly a decade ago, in 2016.
Just a fun tid bit I thought I'd share.
Edit: spelling. Thanks, u/A_norny_mousse
Yep. It's been a while. Already contained Trump.
If you (anybody) haven't watched it yet, please do.
BTW - and I don't say this to nitpick, just to make it easier to find - the documentary is named Hypernormalisation.
I know this narrative is wide spread, and I have no chance to fight it, but it's not fucking not.
USSR has collapsed because of a lot of factors, but the most important of them was that the political elite was willing to change (not to be mistaken with to go away). USSR had an infinite space for doubling down deeper and deeper
I experience the opposite, at least here on Lemmy. It all leads me to conserve my attention for the things that are actually happening.
I mean sure, it's still draining and hard to keep up with, but I think we all learned to filter out some of the nonsense, and see behind the clown show. Except for those who thrive on the outrage, and not actual concern.
Here's hoping it's leading up to a collapse this time too.
I have a prediction:
Iran will send agents to America, who will act as ICE members. Through this guise, they will antagonize the Trump Regime - blackbagging supporters, assassinating politicians, and generally performing domestic terrorism on the 'behalf' of the Regime in a very showy and flashy way. They don't need ID, license plates, nor uniforms, can mask, and bear weapons. Any time they need plausible deniability or to cause some form of riot, they can also attack the general populous, and earn a $1,500 paycheck for each colored head they bring to the Regime.
The Trump Regime has destroyed America's intelligence apparatus, too. Iran has a blank check for destabilizing America, and Trump signed the fucker.
Probably many sleeper agents in the US already
President Krasnov is one.
American concept of law enforcement at the hands of the Executive resulted in this lawlessness
I have seen articles and discussions about all of those items multiple times. We've known trump was an associate of Epstein for how many years? 20? 30? The problem is that there's literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything unless the person being held accountable is just a regular person living paycheck to paycheck.
there's literally no system in place to hold anyone accountable for anything
There is, it's voting.
The problem is that democracy relies on voters being informed. Aside from being racist, sexist and classist, one reason that the US founding fathers initially limited voting to white male land-owners is that they thought they would be educated and knowledgeable. In 2025 we're in a situation where any US citizen over 18 gets to vote, regardless of knowledge or education. At least half the country is buried under an avalanche of disinformation and propaganda, so the system that should hold people accountable for things is broken because nobody can agree on even the most basic facts.
Mostly agree, but the Epstein bit gave me pause. Did anything new come to light recently?
Elon and Trump had their little fight and Elon brought up Epstein then apologized.
His big "bombshell" was just
"Trump is in the Epstien files!!"
Yeah. No shit bud. We've had photos of them together for decades, that's obviously the reason he hasn't released the file.
Musk seriously thinks everyone in the entire world except for him has the intelligence of a washed up ketamine addict.
I don't believe so. Looking at the released evidence, it doesn't seem to really say more than what everyone has known for years. That Epstein had contact information for a lot of people and a lot of people flew on his plane.
Sure there is. There's more of you than there is of them.
Texas quietly defunded the border wall. 8% has been built and it's not even connected sections.
But Mexico was going to pay for the wall...
8% is honestly impressive. The Mexico / Texas border is 2000 km. If they actually built 160 km of wall that's a real achievement.
But, it shows how unrealistic the project is. 160,000 metres of wall is a massive undertaking. There aren't many other human projects that involve building something that big. And it was only a tiny fraction of the distance they needed to cover. They would have left the hard parts for the end. The hard parts are both hard to construct and hard to legally acquire.
Some sections of the wall would have been hard to construct because of the type of soil/rock, and because of how remote they are from everything. The costs there would probably have easily been 10x the costs to construct in easier places. Good thing Mexico was going to pay for the project.... right?
Then, there's the issue of expropriating private land to build the wall. A lot of the land along the border is privately owned, and even when the owners are die-hard Texan republicans, they're not want to give the government their land so the government can build a huge wall. The stuff that was easy legally would have been the first to get done. The stuff where they needed to claim eminent domain and defend lawsuits in court is another matter. The really tricky stuff would have have been put off as long as possible.
So, it's 8%, but it's not the hard 8%, it's the easiest 8% of what was frankly an impossible project.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/06/17/texas-border-wall-funding-ends-abbott-trump/
It's a decent article explaining where money didn't go, how much of the wall isn't really connected l.
The US hasn’t been a country anyone should treat seriously since 2024-11-05, and won’t be again until they can prove their ability to hold another legitimate election.
It’s a coin flip as to whether I’ll see that within my lifetime right now.
Peak lib delusions. That's why y'all lost. Quiet down and go back to brunch.
so which elements in the list are you ok with ignoring? political assassination, corrupt elections, insane spending that isnt supported by budget/taxes?
none of these impact your life?
ALL MAGAs are traitors and Nazi scum. No exceptions.
The 2024 election was rigged.
Have you ever worked on a campaign before? Im not talking about phone banking for a few hours, I am actually asking if you have worked at a campaign for a stretch if time?
I have not, but I have considered it. My Dad worked the polls every year for decades, and he was really proud of that service.
Ask him how many people would need to work together in secrecy to pull off fixing a federal election. You’ll be surprised how unlikely it is.
Why do you think fascists create wars?
As a distraction for internal problems they caused
To create a ladder?
A ladder of what?
Corpses!
Meat ladder
🤔 is this accurate? I don't even follow political stuff and I've heard about everything in that list. Seems like people have been talking about these things
"People" meaning major news stations which are controlled by billionaires and are the only source of news for the boomer generation. This has lead to the brainwashing that allowed our current president to get into office.
It's hardly better for the Facebook generation, or the Twitter generation, or the TikTok generation, or the Roblox generation. Everybody is living in their information silos in the US.
suicides, school shootings, spree shootings, and political assassinations
the three pillars of american education
That's four pillars... I'll start again...
...
"Amongst the pillars of American education are such diverse elements as..."
Honestly, I feel like Trump and the GOP's strategy for a while now has been to do so much illegal, evil and heinous shit that the media and public just move onto the next thing.
Any other administration would have been brought to its knees by Signalgate. A few months later and the fucking Secretary of Defense is getting congratulated for not leaking military plans ahead of time.
It’s literally called “flooding the zone” and they’ve talked openly about the fact they’re doing it
Classic authorian playbook. Either stage a domestic terror attack or start a war.
¿Por qué no los dos?
"Flood the zone with shit" is working as intended. It‘s chilling to see how quickly push comes to shove and we‘re in a world war once again.
War, what is it good for?
Apparently it's good for taking the public mind of a politicians wrongdoings.
waging the dog, Reichstag Fire, whatever you want to call it that's all this is. We can't have the plebs focusing no us assassinating the opposition, lets go bomb Iran saying we took out their nuclear capabilities meanwhile we actually didn't.
For full explanation please read: Naomi Klein, The Shock Doctrine.
We have limited ram in our biological CPUs.
There are so many things that should make the headlines that nothing makes the headlines anymore.
It's called desensitization.
And honestly, if you think some cazy dude killing two people is what should be on page one these days, you got your priorities wrong.
Hypernormalisation
Like you said, I think it's more prioritization than desensitization. It really isn't the most important story out there now, and it's not a conspiracy that it's not being mentioned.
And that's only the last couple of weeks. That list could be a hundred times longer.
I already see way to much news from the USA while the war in Ukrain is a day driving away. We see almost nothing from that.
USA would much rather support genocide in palestine than resist genocide in ukraine.
The news has been captured by monied interests for decades now. Stop expecting it to televise the revolution.
Strap in because the next one will distract us from war with Iran.
“Yes, we do have a moon base and yes, we are experiencing some bear problems.”
Lunar bears or Saturn bears?
Good to see someone asking the right questions!
Well I noticed some chatter through my Wizard Alliance contacts and thought it might be related
Yes.
Aliens or moon nazis is on my bingo book
I was thinking that the next one was going to be caused by Iran (or at least blamed on them) so as to manufacture consent for this bullshit war.
Or, more likely, accelerate it.
We're drinking from a firehose of bullshit and you want me to talk about the turd I swallowed three days ago? Buddy, I won't forget that turd, but there's literally newer and more horrifying shit coming down the tube. It's amalgamating into a giant shit mountain and crushing us underneath it. C'mon, my dude. Redirect your angst somewhere else.
Firehose of falsehood also is Russian thing
Idk I saw news and discussion for all these things and when I brought them up with people I know they also heard of them. We all have a somewhat wide diversity on how we learn about current events too.
I dont think the disinformation/distraction machine is working as well as it thinks
Agreed, my friends knew about 90% of these and most of them are not on Lemmy. I think the weak link, or the one most hadn't heard of, is the new funding bill that grants Trump more crazy powers to thwart the justice system ... but at this point who can be surprised by that.
Elon's minions are still running amok in our government agencies doing god knows what with our personal data.
I stole this. Quite shamelessly, too.
Can we impeach and convict and remove/imprison him yet?
Impeachment requires majority, Republicans have majority and MAGA will never cross their cult leader.
Anymore it seems the only out may be 86.
Mario's Brother also. Although he might resurface in the news in a month or so.
Just like when tRump became the oldest candidate and suddenly no one was talking about age anymore.
Flood the zone. This is by design
Some great explanations in this post:
A pastor? Never heared of "Thou shalt not kill"?
Someone hasn't read the Old Testament...
We are used having a crisis per quarter not crazy Orange Chicken spamming the controls and creating 4 crises per day
Yeah, man, let's get back to talking about it. Like we were doing. Just sittin around, talking about it, while more and more of this list happened. And then we just kept on talkin. That's what we need to get back to, suddenly, no one's talking about it. That's the problem.
Another descriptive term is wagging the dog (referring to the tail having disproportionate leverage over the beast) which is a (not uncommon) presidential tactic of taking a serious military action in order to distract from other scandals.
News media, including classic liberal media will allow other stories to die to report on attacks or invasions (or when you can get it, attacks on the US by foreign units).
George W.Bush used this method, but also blitzing the public with countless scandals. (George H. W. Bush did too) So Trump's kitchen cabinet was likely informed by history when considering becoming Bibi's personal B.
You think "nobody" is talking about it?
What a tiny world you live in
Joffrey has really upped his game this season.
I remember seeing some post of reddit while lurking of a bunch of election letters being dumped in a drain
I wonder what came of that
I thought the 2024 election rigging was all wild speculation?
I agree the pieces are there for it to happen but I didn't see any actual evidence.
There's an active court case in New York uncovering indications of tampering and wild statistical anomalies. This blog is a little conspiratorial sounding, but it's also doing a difficult job of putting back together the pieces of what is looking like a well executed technological coup.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
I saw an analysis of results in deep-blue Arizona cities where there were quite a few people who voted for Trump...then Democrat down the rest of the ballot.
It's not hard evidence, but it's suspicious. The problem the US has is that the winners are quite okay with winning at any cost and don't see a problem, even if the win was stolen.
Establishment Dems have been trying to sell the fantasy concept of a full Democratic ticket, with Trump at the top. I'm sure there are a few, but they are as rare as white squirrels.
The idea that it was common is ridiculous. I've never heard ANYONE say that voted that way.
Yes and no. As others have stated, there isn't a whole lot of evidence that any specific cheating was happening. But historically Republicans have always cheated and if there was a way to cheat they would cheat. They have been slowly putting people into positions that would allow them to affect the elections. They have been making laws to make it harder for people to vote that they don't want voting.
I think the more interesting question is if they did cheat, would it even matter?
It would change the narrative but it's not like they would follow the courts of they said it was stolen and had to be redone or something
They wouldn't redo the vote, Harris conceded, so it's over.
They could, however, prosecute everyone involved, and throw them in prison for a long time.
You are much more optimistic than I.
More and more evidence is coming to light. Even more will come out, eventually they'll start getting connected together, and eventually names will be attached.
Unfortunately, it won't be the cowardly Dem leadership that will find this. People on the outside are going to have to uncover the facts and blow it up to the point that the Dems can't ignore it.
Pretty much all I ever talk about, and its also all over the news, idk where you're taking shelter under.
Always appreciate more attention on it, tho, good work.
I am so drunk rn but I can't wait to read this tomorrow because you are a goddess sharing fucking .gov sources to a mother fucking bill and I'm ALL ABOUT those kind of sources after years of clickbait news
we the people have probably read more of any given proposed bill than the republican congress voting on it, how fucked is that?
Oh yes we are. The news has a short memory but we don't. F that guy.
No a real act or terror is burning empty cybertrucks.
/s
It does feel like that story just got moved from way too fast.
The news around Donald changes faster than the weather in the mid-west. He's done more or been involved in more in a few months than most presidents could accomplish in 2 full terms.
Throwing a brick into a dryer is less chaotic.
Well, Americans shooting each other is hardly news.
it is when the republicans skim their knee
It's almost to that point with republican domestic terrorists. Hell, they admitted as much at cpac
Fascists shooting people isn't news because it's always been a major foundation of the state.
Censoring across the board.
Spot on!
I know about ALL those things, and more, so it's getting covered somewhere.
The list might get longer, But we still talk about it.
War is a beautiful thing...
mush used "a.i." to rebrand himself as an autistic mother-loving manic-techboi whose father recounted, suddenly at the height of misdiagnosis crisis, he was called "retard" in grade school. and just like that, a white african repackaged himself using every grief he could mine from american grit and soul.
he channeled the white negro and sold it back to american men after jeff bezos reduced their morale with the API Mandate (why anyone celebrated this draconian move, will remain a mystery of capitalism).
Spread spread spread! Cowardly press will give the people what we want when they see us doing it first. Spread spread spread.
This is just another drop in the bucket. Not even worth mentioning. It serves no use to imperial narrative.
USA is a racist genocidal empire. It actively supports fascism like this attack. But the far greater fascism is inflicted upon palestinians, iranians, lebanese, yemenis, syrians, etal. We don't ever hear an honest narrative about this terrorism. Forget about some fash pastor.
(Also crying about "american citizens" is just supporting attacks on refugees. This lib shit is really gross.)