Republicans ask Donald Trump to revoke Zohran Mamdani's citizenship
11mon 26d ago by sopuli.xyz/u/babysandpiper in politics from www.newsweek.com
The New York Young Republican Club (NYYRC) has called on the federal government to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship and deport him.
On Tuesday evening, Mamdani, a 33-year-old self-described democratic socialist, declared victory over Andrew Cuomo, former governor of the state of New York, in the Democratic primary for the 2025 New York mayoral election.
The outcome, one of the first major Democratic primaries since Donald Trump returned to office, is being considered as a barometer for the party's potential recalibration nationally, at a time when it remains ideologically divided about its future.
This shows how scared they are of him. This is a bellwether moment.
That is the core characteristic of ALL Conservatives - Fear. They are so afraid of EVERYTHING, that they want to preserve the safe little bubble they are in right now. ANY change is to be feared, and attacked.
It's almost understandable until you realize it's not just change for themselves they fear, it's change for anyone else. Somehow, in their twisted minds, an increase in rights and humane treatment for others hurts them.
It’s because they fear they will lose their social “status” of being “better” than someone else. Because if everyone is the same then they can’t be “better”
"When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
Conservatives see the world as a zero sum. In order for one group of people to gain rights, another group has to lose rights.
Exactly. Authoritarianism is driven by two things, fearful followers who want to combat their fear with control, and social dominator leaders who take advantage of fearful followers for their own benefit.
Here is an entire free book full of research on the topic.
Totalitarianism in America by Chris Hedges is also a really good read for those wondering at how we got here and the movement behind it.
Like cars that don't go vroom.
This is a bellwether moment.
More like a bellend moment...
Well, we're a year late for Bell Riots.
Exactly, people were talking about controlled opposition and it looks like it is true.
If they thought he was so left he had no chance they would just laugh or even ignore (which normally they did not pay attention to primaries).
It also shows how broken this country is when two groups of people can both look at this and have completely opposite reactions to it.
"We are all domestic terrorists"
They already told us who they are, and nothing they've done would indicate otherwise.
It might be against my, and your, morals but each of the things I pointed out were carried out by Americans within the bounds of the law. Unfortunately whether or not this fits in with the morals and laws of the US as a whole is very much up for debate.
I’m not saying it never happened before, I’m saying it’s against our laws and morals.
It's only against our laws and morals if we actually don't do it, and don't allow it to be done again.
It's very much not against your laws or morals.
The US President has basically dictatorial rights. No head of state in any other democracy can do even a tenth of the things that the US President can.
And never did the US people oppose this.
It's neither my history nor do I lack knowledge in the basics of US history.
I do know the history of my own country though - Germany - where the President only has a representative role and the Chancellor cannot do anything without a supportive Parliament. You know, because the Weimar Republic fell due to the President having Kaiser-lite powers.
The revolution isn't being televised...(concurrent addition)
I hate to break it to you, but Americans are exceedingly inculcated with the idea of exiling racial groups.
77 million or so.
Allegedly.
I don't know any R voter who has a single bad thing to say about what's going on right now. I haven't seen one online either. (except those saying it's not going far or fast enough) I peek at /r/conservative every so often and it's nothing but cheerleading.
And nothing happening right now is a surprise to anyone who wasn't trying not to see it.
They are cool with it, or it's not a dealbreaker, at best.
He's not doing anything surprising. He telegraphed exactly what he would do for years. We had 4 years of him trying and failing to do it, then 4 years of him saying he would do exactly what he is doing if they elected him again. And they voted him in anyway.
Their crocodile tears mean nothing, and I'll not willingly associate with any conservative nor Republican until old age takes me in two or three decades, at which time the country will still be recovering from what they've done. And it especially doesn't count if they are whining because their business or their family has been hurt by Trump policies. Republicans caring when they get impacted is nothing new.
The 6% have my apologies.
So do all the Republicans who have been frantically writing their representatives and senators in recent years asking them what the fuck has gone wrong that they are ALL supporting this march to fascism. (and yes, I know about Kinzinger etc, all immediately despised by the rest of R when they tried to stand up to Trump)
I figure maybe there are twenty or so of them. If it was enough to do anything at all, then the entire Republican apparatus wouldn't be supporting Trump balls-deep because it would have been clear to them for YEARS that this is not what Republican voters want. But it's not clear, because the twenty mythical decent republicans writing them angry letters isn't really enough to do jack shit. What's clear is that this IS what Republican voters want.
The other thing making it clear this is what Republican voters want - 94% voted for a convicted Felon, who had given them a preview in 2017, and who had been responsible for Jan 06, and who had spent the past four years making sure we all knew that he would do EXACTLY what he is currently doing.
No conservatives in my life ever again if they aren't there by blood relation, and bare minimum for them. I'm almost sixty. My memories of conservatives trying to fuck everything up for people go all the way back to when I was 13. I have no memories of Republican policies doing anything but what they are doing now. Harming people and helping the rich.
Where we are at right now is the logical eventual outcome of every Republican or conservative position I've heard espoused in my lifetime. This is always where they were headed. They finally got control, and they are being just as terrible as anyone ever predicted.
Fuck it, I'm done. I've spent as much of my life as I'm going to acting like there's any possible way I can be compatible with these people. Every last one is dead to me, and I will not ever, under any circumstances, support a Republican for so much as a street sweeper until the day I die.
WHAT GROUND? I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm angry at you but WHAT GROUND? Will they reject the next truly awful person put up by R, or will they just vote for them again anyway?
I know where my money is at.
They are getting what they pushed for this entire time. They are getting what they had every reason to know was coming when they pulled the lever for Trump (a third fucking time). We're all riding this flaming wreckage together, I'm not going to hold their fucking hand while we go down in the catastrophe they created, all the while being told by them how it's just fucking awesome that we're finally getting things under control.
Like ten republicans? I'm not ignoring it, I've seen zero evidence to support this.
LOL I'd LOVE to stop paying attention to the crumbling of our government at the willing urging of Republicans. I'm paying a lot of attention. I see crickets from R, or cheerleading, or condemnation of any R who dares break ranks. Since 2017. Except those 6 republicans that Kamala paid to run ads for her when she was trying to win R votes instead of D votes in 2024.
Too much to ask for just one source, eh?
I've seen several regretful Trump voters in news articles.
But yeah, haven't met any IRL either. Including my own parents.
Including my own parents.
🫂
A lot of them took their flags down and sit quiet.
Afraid to admit they were wrong.
I’ve seen several regretful Trump voters in news articles.
What gets me is those articles are always like "MAGA civil war over this decision from Trump!" And of course that's what you want to hear, and you think 'finally!' and then it's screenshots of like 3 disgruntled magas on X, one of whom thinks he hasn't gone far enough.
Matters little if that "very small group" has power and is getting away with it
Got any hot tips for winning a class war? From the disadvantaged side, please.
I realize this is sarcasm but honestly: all of you/us are greater than all of them, if enough of us can actually unite on what we want and how to get it.
Unfortunately it's also why there's been a huge effort on dividing people by race/gender/religion/etc that might otherwise have been united in socio-economic struggles.
It also means that the people who need to give something to push for change are (deliberately) kept in situations where they have the least to do.
- Less time to organise because of working multiple jobs with little to no free time.
- Less money or resources to fight in courts.
- Less knowledge due to underfunded education.
- Less physical ability due to lack of healthcare or nutritional diet
- Less access to childcare or ability to afford such
- Etc
Which is why supporting community/network is important.
Having a politician that isn't an evil fuck is good, but that politician isn't going to watch your kids while you're at a protest or in the hospital. They're not going to help you get to work when your car breaks down, or help you fix it.
They might stand beside you at a protest or union meeting, but one or a handful of politicians says less than community of hundreds or thousands.
We need to rebuild communities and support networks. Yes we need the help of politicians - or at least less actively fighting against us - but we also need to rally with each other. The attacks on this guy reflect much of the same as those on our communities.
If somebody is a "gay Muslim trans-woman Iranian refugee amputee" who is willing to stand by me in times of need, I'm willing to stand by them and they're welcome at my BBQ.
That was a nice outline ^^ (why does everyone think i'm being sarcastic?? i did not use /s or messy capitalization...)
If you're not sarcastic then I'm generally sorry to hear you're stuck in that shitty situation.
You're also welcome at my BBQ if you're ever up here in Canada
Thanks. Hopefully I won't need to visit the provinces any time soon. Appreciate you taking a turn to write the essay. It's been a frustrating decade locally, and it's nice to have a turn listening.
It’s a large enough percentage to reach the White House, and unfortunately that’s all that seems to matter.
Ah, you’re making the mistake of thinking we have free and fair presidential elections. We do not. It’s fucked.
You’ve probably never lived in the USA. From the sound of it.
I've lived here going on 60 years, in multiple parts of the country, in about ten different states. I'm also a veteran.
the country has a long and storied history of doing awful things to people at home and across the world.
100% accurate, whether that other commenter lives here or not.
You don’t need to live the US to know about it, and actually it makes it a lot easier because you aren’t dealing with their shitty education system or the propaganda. Besides, I’m Canadian, and have to deal with that pile of garbage all the damn time.
Get outta here acting like I can’t judge the US because I’m not in it. Get right outta here.
Deporting immigrants is one thing. But when a country starts deporting it's own citizens, and stripping them or reducing their citizenship to justify their treatment, well... before you know it, the half-citizen deportees end up coming out of the concentration camps through the chimney.
Maybe deporting immigrants sucks. Maybe destabilizing geopolitical regions suck. Maybe we could have drawn the line way sooner, if it was abou what's right and not about indulging bullies and slave traders.
Police brutality we can eat dinner through, but not lying about chatel slavery and torture camps anymore.
If I sound extreme, look up the state of food in U.S. prisons. If it doesn't seem like I should care, you don't know how many reprecussions legal, manditory, insurance redlining really had on the body and soul of the nation. It was mutilation, still visable today.
fascists gonna fascist.
"We'Re NoT fAsCiStS tHeRe ArE nO gAs ChAmBeRs! (yet)"
The only metric for them to be fascist is if there is mass murder of civilians. Unless you're Israel of course. :/
tHeRe ArE nO gAs ChAmBeRs! (yet)
Oh but there are.
/s ?
Yeah lol the alternating caps is making fun of them for saying something absurd
SpOnGe cAsE is typically used to denote sarcasm
Deport is not wrong
Remember when they all claimed they had no problem with LEGAL immigration?
Well yeah, they had a problem with any kind that makes them lose.
I wish the ironic gift of Trump's grandfather's German birth certificate hadn't gone straight over the heads.
Trumpf*
Well yeah, they had a problem with any kind that makes them lose.
They just take issue with brown people immigrating here.
I wish I had artistic talent. I would love to make a political cartoon of the Statue of Liberty holding a sing saying "You must be this color or lighter to enter" with a color chart X'ing out the brown and black colors leaving only white ones. With a caption stating this is the current republican immigration policy.
And to answer the inevitable: No, I refuse to use "AI".
Reminiscent of the Family Guy Skin Color Chart
lol, they are losing it
angry ceo threatens to close grocery chain... well, that will show them 😂
If he closes wouldn't he be out of a job? Lol
No, because Kroger is a major national chain that doesn't need to operate in NYC to be profitable. It's like a petulant child throwing some of his toys away because he has to share them.
Watch that be something super small time as well, like a guy who owns three convenience stores within about a mile of each other.
Those Jims are about to get Slimmer.
and with an attitude like that it’s probably super shit for consumers… go ahead: close so someone better can start up
I got curious and looked it up. It's called Gristedes. Nobody outside Manhattan will ever have been in one, because they're all there within a few miles of Central Park.
I don't know why he'd close them, because I can't understand how the conservative brain works.
main character syndrome?
It's not just Fox News. Bezo's Washington Post ran an editorial, written by "the editorial board," about how Mamdani would be "bad for New York and bad for the Democratic Party," claiming he would destroy public transit, reduce the number of grocery stores, drive away big businesses, depress low-skill employment, etc., etc., etc. Oh, and of course that this would discredit all the other young candidates across the country. The WaPo's threat earlier this year to make their editorial page aggressively pro-capitalist and anti-public-good was apparently very much in earnest.
they're afraid.
It's extra dumb because it's NYC - no Republican was ever gonna be mayor. They're just all being super racist.
I don't know why you think that. Giuliani and Bloomberg were both Republicans. Republicans have run New York for more than half of the last 30 years.
And even when we get Democrats, we end up with conservative Dems like Eric Adams out here promising to lock people up.
It’s extra dumb because it’s NYC - no Republican was ever gonna be mayor. They’re just all being super racist.
This isn't correct at all, but also Dems in NYC represent the rich and the slumlords, not the people that Zohran represents. Make no mistake there are tons of stories about dems melting down about Zohran as well, and senior Dem leaders in NYC like the Governor, don't support Zohran either.
That's what worries me a lot about Cuomo potentially running as an independent: the "safe seat" phenomenon might have him bolder about fracturing the vote.
A major issue that seems to be taking a back seat to racism (lets face it at this point you may as well just assume its there) is the overt posturing about taking control of the largest city in the us directly counter to the populations interest.
truth
Hope they are using the word "socialist" more, so people can be informed of what socialism is and on his program.
They really are afraid. Very good.
Don't Republicans hate New York? You'd think they'd be thrilled with the opportunity for socialism to ruin one of the bluest cities in the US. Maybe they're worried something else will happen.
They love New York/Wall Street, because that's where the money is, but they hate all the liberal artsy stuff.
Exactly.... It's all so rich coming from these losers who refuse to even enter NYC because Fox News told them it's warzone or some bullshit.
Hear, hear! Excellent point.
The first time I heard of "communists" and "socialists" was back when I was in middle school, when Bush Jr got us into war. All I did was ask why in the world we were invading Iraq, which had nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden. Sincerely trying to understand the world. That's when the already-brainwashed kids starting flinging "socialist" and "communist" like they meant the same thing as "idiot."
So, I decided to read about those concepts to see what all the hubbub was about. Surprise surprise, when I later responded to those same kids by asking what they thought the words meant, they couldn't answer the question.
Now I'm thinking it's kind of like the Streisand Effect - 'Muricans don't want you to know about how other countries run. I didn't know about systems besides capitalism yet, until the spawn of conservatives decided to use ancient fears from the 1950s as an insult in the year 2003. Surprise surprise, now there's a swath of Millennials (and other generations, of course) just like me who learned that if conservatives hate something, it's worth looking into.
I was called a communist at work a few years ago because I said, factually, that a lot of the memes about AOC being dumb were of entirely fabricated quotes.
and topping it off, “communist” is not an insult in the least.
Well that's pretty ignorant of the mass murder that Mao and Stalin engineered amongst other atrocities by communist regimes.
Specifically referring to "in the least"
And this is from someone who has worn an enameled Lenin pin
Would Marx have said those folks are communist? I reckon “the least” sure yeah… but to me, compared to “capitalist” (which is gobs worse) - the moniker “communist” is not offensive.
Marx wouldn't likely have accepted Stalin or Mao as "communist" either. Unfortunately like the word literally, "communist" has expanded in what it can mean.
Which is why I felt inclined to comment due to your use of "in the least"
"Communist" and "socialist" are no different than "liberal" for them -- just labels to selectively target those they don't like, for whatever reason they decide. Just slap the label on and you're good to go
In 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower signed the Communist Control Act into law. In theory, this outlawed the Communist Party of the United States and banned communists from serving in certain roles.
WTF
[It passed because] many opposed communism because of its explicitly declared and historically demonstrable goal to undermine liberal democracy. In the words of Ernest van den Haag, there was "no place in democracy for those who want to abolish [it] even with a peaceful vote".
- Wikipedia
The irony of using it here would be palpable
The freedest country on earth.
All citizens are free. It's just some are free-er then others.
As a perpetually online individual I could swear that "conservatives" absolutely hated "thought crime" and political persecution for their beliefs...
Ohhhhh right, hypocrisy. I almost forgot. "Conservatives" use words as weapons and are only consistent in their inconsistent stated beliefs.
Citizenship doesn't exist under a tyranny. There's only people inside the circle and people outside the circle. And the circle constantly gets smaller
Basically PUBG, but with more guns
Citizenship does exist under tyranny, but instead of having rights, you get duties.
Reminds me of this time last year when Trump was on trial for a half dozen things.
Everyone was all like "ooh it would be so undemocratic to try someone while they're campaigning".
Meanwhile republicans can just uncitizen anyone they don't like.
You can't win if no one is playing by the rules.
I’m calling on the federal government to strip the citizenship of every member and associate of the New York Young Republican Club (NYYRC) because they are a threat to the USA.
ICE needs to step in and quickly deport them before their case can be heard in court.
Now that the Supreme court has approved of deportations to third countries, this is actually feasible. Maybe Uganda would like to welcome them. Or perhaps Libya.
What has Uganda done to deserve such mistreatment?
They already made a similar deal with the UK to recieve asylum seekers. I'm guessing for quite a bit of money/support. So yeah, Uganda signed on for this. Not the Ugandan people off course, but Museveni is quite a POS. Also, I kind of enjoy the idea of the right wing losers in the NYYRC finding themselves as a refugee minority in a majority black country.
The mask is off! Strip them of their citizenship and deport them to a third world prison? What a fucked up party they have become.
They haven't done a good job of hiding who they are since before the 101st Airborne had to escort the Little Rock Nine to school.
I mean that was on the orders of a Republican president and Governor Faubus was a Democrat. You're still not wrong but it was the style of the time in general and simply a bad example to focus on over the post-Southern Strategy landscape.
Become? This is who and what the cons and the Republicans are.
Don't let anyone fool you with that "true conservative" bullshit.
It is hard to understand this as I grew up around a lot of conservatives who actually had values and decency.
If you told me even ten years ago that Republicans would be calling for US citizens to be deported I would have said you were crazy, but here we are.
I could have told you decades prior to that. I grew up in an area that was deeply, deeply red.
Sure, maybe not every conservative/Republican is overly weird about things like race, religion, and the "blood and soil" stuff....but far, far too many are.
I've read that Democrats are also looking at arcane old rules to try to disqualify him, so if the MAGA Nazis come for him, don't expect any support from the Democratic Party.
Bill Clinton stepped in at the last minute to endorse the Dem incumbent, yeah the establishment (which is 95% of the Democratic party) won't be thrilled.
Clinton didn't endorse the incumbent. He endorsed Cuomo, New York's former governor who resigned in disgrace several years ago. Apparently Cuomo feels that enough time has passed since he resigned in disgrace that he can try starting up his career again.
Wait, who is doing this?
None that I have been able to find; probably just hearsay, or a misrepresentation of what a pundit said on cable news somewhere.
I wouldn't be surpised if the DNC was actively looking at various rules to get rid of Zohran.
Well, most people require evidence for such bold claims.
[Gestures wildly at David Hogg]
Your lack of surprise is all the proof I needed.
Appalling. Only the repugnicans would stoop this low. He’s been American since 2018. If they succeed in this - the US is truly Germany in the early 1930s.
The US is already there. We arrived about 2-3 months ago.
There was an Italian socialist politician called Giacomo Matteotti who got disappeared after he spoke up against the fascist regime. It marks the turning point for the Italian dictatorship. If this century is truly a Disney bad reboot of the previous, we could be seeing some similarities with Mamdani.
I doubt entrenched powers would let the mayor of the biggest US city actually do anything radical like what he campaigned for. Capitalists will collaborate with politicians to either have him removed or make him woefully inefficient. It will definitely be an uphill battle.
THE US ALREADY IS GODDAMMIT!!
WHY DOES NOBODY UNDERSTAND THIS??
ARM UP, GODDAMMIT!!!
On June 2, New York City Council Member Vickie Paladino, a Republican, wrote: "Let's just talk about how insane it is to elect someone to any major office who hasn't even been a US citizen for ten years—much less a radical leftist who actually hates everything about the country and is here specifically to undermine everything we've ever been about. Deport."
Mamdani hit back at Paladino on X, saying: "Like nearly 40% of all New Yorkers, I wasn't born in this country. I moved here at age 7. It's my home. And I'm proud to be a citizen, which means standing up for our Constitution. Councilmember Paladino might consider reading it."
Great clapback.
Great clapback if they actually cared about the constitution but they dont. They're arguing in bad faith and nothing he says matters.
Why do they hate democracy so much?
Because they can't win if they keep it.
Do it. This would trigger the uprising we need.
I doubt it. We've already tolerated a near complete collapse of the rule of law and masked goon squads kidnapping people in the streets. Disappearing one more brown guy probably isn't going to move that needle much.
Millions of people around the country turned out to protest that, and the protests are ongoing. Also, this isn’t “one more brown guy,” he’s one of the most visible politicians in the country right now.
Yeah, it also looks like it actually increased participation in LA, which the ICE, NG and Marines supposed to scare
I understand that things are happening. I've been to some of those protests and seen the people making a stand firsthand. It's certainly not nothing. I'm just saying that the response we've seen so far is what I would have predicted for his first term. We should be making a bunch of fascists a foot shorter by now.
New Yorkers are a hard bunch. I would expect some enthusiastic protest if their guy got taken from them before he could even get in office.
If that happens, I'll personally burn down multiple police stations. Just on principle.
I'll join you happily. I'm just pretty confident that we will be easy to arrest since it will probably be us and a handful of other people.
I have no delusions about the survival rate of such actions. Luckily, I have been the walking dead for all my life! :D if you don't want to live, no one can hurt you, really.
Revoking citizenship is an extreme move. They don't even revoke citizenship of criminals.
This would be crossing a line they are unlikely to even understand.
It's illegal under international law. Because it creates a stateless person, which is a huge problem
Ahh fair enough, didn't know he had dual. Cheers for researching that
If it hasn't happened yet then there's a reason. What's yours?
Not an american. So I have that going for me.
This would trigger the uprising we need.
Would it, though?
Citizenship is a contract that gives you protection in exchange for some expectations to participate in the community.
Revoking citizenship is a huge deal. Not easily done, and I don't think its even used as a punishment.
If they were to? Then they'll happily revoke it for anyone who dissents with the regime.
Revoking citizenship is a huge deal. Not easily done, and I don't think its even used as a punishment.
".. use of denaturalization ... is a form of punishment more primitive than torture ... " -- Trop v. Dulles, 1958, denaturalization unsuitable punishment for 1944 wartime military desertion.
The use of it as an arbitrary tool to instill fear and chill participation in public office should immediately be addressed as uttering threats as a mob.
yeah I'm down to start some shit if they do
If they will revoke citizenship for one they will be happy to revoke it for anyone.
They can revoke these nutz
Having the Government STRIP the Citizenship of Americans it DOESNT LIKE and THEN Deporting them to El Salvador or Libya is called FREEDOM!
signed DONAKD J TRUMP the GREAT LEADER of THE country united STATES OF AMARICA hits post, shits pants
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
The fact that a party so blatantly unconstitutional (and criminal) can get so much support in this country is not a good sign for the future of this nation. I wouldn't invest any hope in things getting better anytime soon. And I mean even when Trump is gone.
Dark future.
Until a revolution-violent, if necessary- against their media sphere happens you can expect more decline.
All of this is proof that capitalism is an evil economic model, inevitably geared towards death, slavery, and oppression.
They would rather everything, everyone die before giving a single stolen penny back to the people, even if that means they also die
The only hope is when things take a turn, they take a turn in our favor. And I don't hold much hope for that, we've been at war and the rest of the country is pretending there isn't one
I hope Zohran gets a group of armed bodyguards. Sooner or later, ICE will try to disappear him.
It's probably illegal to resist and illegal deportation
AFAICT, the law is not very well settled at all about whether you have a right to defend yourself when the cops are acting like a bunch of bozos. There's case law that supports people defending themselves from middle of the night no-knocks raids, and also case law that basically says "it's your fault for not just magically knowing it was the police". There's case law that says that you are within your rights to not obey lawful orders when the police fail to properly identify themselves, but it's also an absolute mess of state level laws and rulings, with some states basically being like "you are legally required to just know who the cops are" and others requiring that the police very clearly identify themselves with some type of proof of who they are.
And none of it matters much when SCOTUS will just say "Well, actually based on this comment in the margins of this memo on an irrelevant case you can't defend yourself".
Yeah that's not going to happen. Zohran Mamdani is in no way a threat to the US. Period.
If it did happen I bet LA this last month will look like a slumber party compared to what will happen as a result of this actually happening.
This is wisdom. New Yorkers do not fuck around.
Well the rich it seems did vote for Mamdani
High income in New York is definitely above 1% globally, and likely even nearing 1% nationally
Because that's about as high as the top 15% intelligence wise can hit without compromising ethics.
whoosh
A conservative literally went and shot a sitting democrat politician and her husband dead. It was a news story for about 10 seconds before being replaced by the latest Trump shenanigans. They're literally assassinating / murdering democrats in their homes man, and no one in America seems to care all that much.
And you think something'll happen if they deport a dude who is just... in the running for mayor?
Yeah, ok, sure.
Neither are most of the people they are deporting. This isn't really about threats to the US it is about threats to their dominance. Suppression of political opponents.
The White House has framed the upset victory by Mamdani, who could become New York City's first Muslim and Indian American mayor, as evidence of uncontrolled migration...
And by "uncontrolled migration" they mean "brown people getting uppity and not knowing their place."
Have we actually spread real democracy to…anywhere? Ever?
- spreading neoliberalism disguised as democracy
Honestly, "uncontrolled immigration" leads to social and political mobility?
Good. That is what we need. Also, uncontrolled? When was that lol
That's how you know he actually might get something good done.
Exactly. If MAGAt morons don't like the person, you know they're probably the best choice.
They really freak out when their carefully cultivated alternative propaganda reality is contradicted by ACTUAL reality, and they have to face the fact that without the ability to cheat, they can't win.
Everyone else asks God to shoot captive bolts into MAGA foreheads but we can't always get what we want.
If he does try to do this, Democrats will fall over themselves to explain why they support the action, but quibble on how the paperwork was filed to implement it.
Just the past 6 months, especially after seeing all the evidence that supports their statement. Hell, just look no further than Congress.
Look at Dems "keeping a distance," and endorsing the rapist and other criminal.
Wow republicans are all scared little pussies aren’t they?
At this point I think GOP is simply a fascist party, which has been hiding behind false patriotism.
They are simply atrociously and with no sense of humanity or ridiculousness. Just pure hatred personified into a shell of human beings.
If I were to be religious I would think that Trump is the anti-Christ and his followers are simply demons.
Why did it take so long to come to that conclusion? That's been the case for years. My mom, who is religious and fortunately not part of the MAGA cult, has repeatedly told me that she wouldn't be surprised if he is.
1-the GOP IS a Nazi party 2- trump IS an antichrist, and the thing about antichrists is that they are invisible to christians. 3- his followers are actual satanic pedophiles, which is why they accuse everyone else of being satanic pedophiles.
If he does. Time for even more mass protests. Shut down the streets of New York until his citizenship is restored.
The national party better figure out quickly that the next election isn't going to be
"Blue no matter who"
It's going to be
"More green than blue or else fuck you too!"
As an outsider looking at American politics, "blue no matter who" is a propaganda to condition Americans citizens to always accept the lesser evil, and to not bother to try to lobby or pressure their own representatives to be actually be better.
"Blue no matter who" doesn't mean "vote for the second worst person". What it means is anyone who has any shred of decency isn't a republican anymore, and republicans cannot be allowed to win at any cost, or they will very quickly backslide civil rights and start a war in the Middle East.
I think the Dems will back Mamdani, since he's going to win the primary. There are a lot of naysayers about the Democrats who think otherwise, it will be interesting to watch the space in the next few weeks.
Also, if the Republican pull his citizenship then I'm going to fucking riot.
Dems are already backing Mamdani, he already won the primary and he is himself a part of the party. Even though Bill Clinton endorsed Cuomo, who served as HUD Secretary under Clinton, he had this to say about Mamdani's victory:
"Congratulations ZohranKMamdani on your victory in yesterday’s primary election and a well-run campaign. I’m wishing you much success in November and beyond as you work to bring New Yorkers together to tackle the city’s challenges and shape a stronger, fairer future"
~Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States of America
RNC promotes greens through the Badger Values PAC, the European Greens parties asked the US Greens to step down in the last election because if Harris lost then Republicans win. Can you guess how many Greens are in the US congress today? ZERO. Can you guess which party Mamdani is in? DNC.
This is the battle that determines our future. If we lose this, it's war, or submission for years or decades, and then war.
That would get so much push back. I think it's more likely Mamdani receives the highest award in journalism l, unfortunately.
Ideologically divided, yes. That old rift between the two ideologies of "try to govern mostly okay" and "where's my check from AIPAC?".
So, to be a republican you must be a whiny little ass baby
128 Democrats were told by their handlers to let trump do yoohoo's dirty work.
Republicans start being revolting, very early in their political careers, it seems. Maybe they are born that way.
Raised that way.
So fucking sick of the peter pan party
If they already claim for citizenship revokal now, one can imagine how bad it can get when there are actual elections coming ...
What will the average non-bootlicking american will do if this happens? I have hope that this kind of event would be the trigger for the passive majority to actually resist.
"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.
They will do absolutely nothing, just as they have at every other step of the takeover.
Don’t worry, I got full coverage of the cute little parades.
Don’t act like you suddenly found yourself in this situation overnight. This has been on the horizon for DECADES and literally the entire planet has been telling you so. In response, you stuck your fingers in your ears and renamed french fries.
You don’t get a pass for being unprepared with the correct tactics when everyone’s told you, accurately, for years, what was happening to your country.
It’s TOUGH? Oh, Lordy- had no idea! By all means, take a pass on fixing your country. I’m sure you have the best of intentions- nothing at all like the very good Germans in the 1930s who just felt that doing literally anything was “tough.”
Fuck off. Nothing at all indicates a “tipping point.” If anything, you’re worse off week after week. You’ll get support from the north when you do literally ANYTHING.
Consider this: if ICE took him tomorrow and disappeared him, what would happen realistically?
Those gravy seals would be shot dead by his security detail.
That's what would happen, and why it won't.
You're forgetting the most likely option: 3. The local cops simply hand him over to the feds. Cops are not your fucking friends I don't know how much clearer it can get at this point.
Wait, how does he have a security detail?
Apparently yes. I just looked it up. Five or six guys from the NYPD have the duty of protecting the mayor. On a case by case basis, his family might also get security. In the case of Rudy Juliani, both his wife and his mistress for security details because of course.
Would local guys defend against federal guys? Don't know.
Well, he's not the mayor, just someone running for mayor.
Oh yes. That's true. Didn't check that.
Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
I was more wondering where he got the money, but I guess you can spend campaign money on that stuff. That makes sense.
The Democrat party elites would celebrate together with the Republicans and the cokeheads at Wall Street as this means putting the sexual predator and "centrist" Cuomo back on the D ticket.
If they revoked a U.S. citizens of his citizenship, that will provoke nation wide protests across the U.S., you dont revoked citizenship unless someone has done something extremely egregious, and there are very very few cases of that ever happening in the U.S. (maybe none, I havent looked it up).
I personally will not sit down and just take these wackjobs shit laying down. This country is everybody's, not just the far-right dipshits christofascist playground.
This guy has done literally nothing except want a better future for people. That's not a crime.
they are currently disappearing citizens who are on their way to work. what makes you think people will protest any more or differently than they are?
Yeah, well, we had the largest protest in U.S. history on June 14th, we aren't doing nothing. Would you like us to make the potential civil war hot now or later? I honestly would prefer to just do this shit peacefully, but that may not be an option. We certainly aren't doing nothing like you are saying. Just bcz hou dont personally see it doesn't mean everyone is laying down.
oh i didn’t say we were not doing nothing - I just can’t talk online about how I really feel it’s gonna end up.
I just can’t talk online about how I really feel it’s gonna end up.
Just wish we'd get it over with already so the healing and rebuilding can start. I'd like to see things head the right way before old age takes me in a couple decades, and it's gonna be a bit to undo all this.
Unfortunately I strongly believe peaceful protest only works with a government that actually gives a shit. If we had a government that was comprised of people who we simply disagreed with but who still respected "the will of the people" they'd react to massive outcries.
We do not have that government. We have a government actively pushing for the president to have dictator "unitary executive" powers. As in: setting the president above the judiciary, and having Congress subservient to the presidency. They do not give a single solitary fuck about how upset we are about XYZ thing.
we had the largest protest in U.S. history on June 14th, we aren't doing nothing
Nope. No Kings was the third largest in US history after Earth Day 1970 and BLM, and given that it was basically a weekend parade I'd say No Kings was nothing.
Why dont you organize a bigger one then that isn't on a weekend, and try to get more people to participate instead of just complaining about it? If you're not going to do something then be quiet...Seriously, who comes in with this shit, 'actually iTs oNlY ThE tHiRd bIgGeSt iN hIStOrY'
I'm not complaining; I'm simply making a statement of fact. Quite literally no resistance happened on June 14th.
They've already deported US Citizens without even revoking their citizenship - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ice-deported-3-children-who-are-u-s-citizens-their-families-lawyers-say
So, we've kinda already crossed that threshold.
A photo of Trump next to a normal (both in looks and mentally) person never stops being surprising, hilarious and disturbing. We all know he both looks and behaves like an absolute clown, but most photos of him are of his goons and/or other dictators (real or wannabes) who all look ridiculous so you don't get that direct comparison.
Repuglicans are stupid beyond imagining
Sure, Piss Off 9 Million People surrounding the DC area, sounds like a great idea lmfao.
This is more or less unrelated but nonetheless very important:
Should we tell him that his makeup was swapped for a bucket of shit? I’m not sure he’s able to smell it but we can certainly see it.
apparently the smell is something else. some next level shit, if by next level we mean 'in his pants'
https://www.newsweek.com/adam-kinzinger-says-donald-trump-smells-1856378
For the sake of consistency, I would revoke the citizenship of everybody who's not a native American. Because ya know, it's in the name... "Native American": either you're one, or you're a terrible immigrant who should be deported.
Including the terrible son of German and Scottish immigrants currently soiling the White House.
From a board game standard, political ideologies are like this.
Conservatives see life through the game of Monopoly. They must take everything and have everything and leave others with nothing. If any other player has anything, then they aren’t truly winning.
Edit: The problem with an all or nothing mentality is that it always eventually ends terribly. Either for the player or their victims.
Liberals see life through the game of Jumunji. They see it as all the players must work together to win and if there is even one weak link, we all lose.
Edit: The problem with this mentality is that sometimes, the weak links are just shitty cheaters that don’t want to play but the Libs keep trying to help them, despite losing the game half of the time.
Moderates see life like the game of Life. They believe “wrongly even” that we all start similar and that our choices determine how we end with some winners and some losers.
Edit: Sorry, but some players aren’t worth playing with and moderates find themselves helping the cheaters and then wondering why they are 2nd or 3rd place.
This all comes back to Americans. We were too soft on the rebels. Gave them back everything and figured they learned their lessons. We should have known better. After the next one, we need to fix this cancer once and for all. We can just send them all to Greenland after they take it over. The south will rise again, they say, but this time. You can rise there and stay there.
Im fairly certain that Greenland has had more than enough America bullshit.
Correct. But if we swap 50k greenlanders with like 50 million MAGA. We can welcome them in and give them a good life. They will be honored citizens. It would suck to leave your homeland but imagine....you're the 50k that made the ultimate sacrifice. To leave MAGA on an island, easily isolated from the world.
100% that works, too, but I'm sure the blowback for 50 million dead would come back hard on us from the international community. Would make Gaza look like child's play.
This all comes back to Americans. We were too soft on the rebels. Gave them back everything and figured they learned their lessons. We should have known better.
We did know better.
BUT, FUCK ANDREW JOHNSON.
Put every last one of these right wing lunatics in prison.
If this happens. Thats it. General strike. I already voted for myself to strike with my union. I’ll just add this to the strike list.
Sadly, he's going to lose by a significant amount. The media will smear him and social media will bury him in lies.
Be idealistic all you want, but we're going to lose.
Mamdani is going to lose what? He already won the primary and since he's running as a Democrat he has functionally won the NYC mayoral race when that happens.
With that kind of attitude? Sure.
Good thing the rest of us don't think the same.
he might be a socialist and as left as any candidate can be, but somehow, he will institute Sharia law, stone gays, make burka mandatory.... because the right is that unfathomably racist