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Hard dissent. First, Ban content not users. But even if you are banning users, just a quick detour through OPs history would have been enough to see it as a legit account, with a human behind it.. Plus, the picture surely has proving metadata, and detailed pixels.

There's always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there's been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn't jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It's very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.

In my own anecdotal experience, it’s been a lot better here, but I’m sure instance, communities, etc all have an impact. I have noticed a slight uptick in toxicity recently, but once I started using Voyager’s tagging feature I realized the perpetrators are almost always the same 4 people.

If the people who object to slop figuratively crucify real human artists for creating real human art, then they are the baddies.

You can see particles on the concrete wall in the background. You can see how the physical objects in the image interact with one another. AI is good at replicating compositions, but you spot it by the details. At least, for now. This image is definitely real.

We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke.

Most recent series was last year. I think it was meant to be the last one.

Dang it!

Eh, “perfect” is relative. There’s still plenty of weird little spots on that Pangolin’s scales

Post original

post the original, then.

Bro got caught and is trying to say everything is edited.

So you don't have the original anymore?

Post original or its AI

The interesting part about doing a vignette is that it shows up in ELA when you run it through any one of the dozen doctored image detector websites, the re-encode around the changes shows up in the data when it inspects them, this image has zero error level deviation.

That's interesting because it also doesn't appear as AI at all through the AI detection tests. But here you're saying it's actually edited. Maybe the CDN was heavy-handed enough to destroy the ELA. Zip up your edited copy and give that to the masses. The nay-sayers can run it through Fotoforensics and see it's manually edited. You have already passed all the AI detection pages with 0% AI probability.

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I think it's just that the iPhone processing gives it a certain look that people associate with ai for possibly incorrect reasons.

Ah, nice catch.

Looking for a giant peach.

I was so confused by the image initially as I hadn't seen a window well that deep before. This follow-up picture made it all click, thanks for sharing.

Very interesting, thanks for the explanation. To me it's kind of pathetic that people feel such a compulsion to be cops instead of just enjoying a nice image.

What an absurd line of reasoning from that bunch.

"Obviously" you should have just posted the raw sensor data and let the viewers figure it out themselves. Sheesh.

Sharing hardware specs doesn't need "because it was all I had" tho.

Thanks!

I think he's that Canadian dude on the coast and he's super zealous.

I remember a huge like 20,000+ vote thread where people were just outright mocking him to his face, knowing that he's not aware he's being mocked.

I stood up to shame people and I got the shit beat out of me then banned.

Yeah it's all fine for thousands of people to mock a person with an intellectual disability, that's totally fine /s

It's not AI.

There's one big tell that I don't think AI is advanced enough to replicate.

Op took this picture though a window that had multiple panes of glass. So there's an echo of the image from the secondary reflections between the panes of glass.

I also can't spot and of the debris in the shot blending into itself. Everything seems to be complete objects.

But that reflection? I've never seen AI do anything like that.

In case anyone doesn't quite see what's going on here, the image is taken from inside (lights seem to be off from where the camera is), through thermal glass into a concrete window space, which is common for places that have basements so the window can serve as an emergency exit (even if you need to break it to get out)...

Looks like there's some kind of evergreen tree not far from where the window is, given the debris in the photo.

Great shot OP.

There are communities for AI generated images. The presumption for photography communities is that submissions are taken pictures.

There is something special about photography. Photographs capture something real, a physical point in time. What you see really existed.

The problem with AI slop is that it gets better by the day and if you want to appreciate that single physical point in time that a photo represents, knowing that makes it special in ways that AI is not.

Likewise, created art is a window into someone’s mind and soul. Knowing this also makes those works special in ways that AI is not.

That said, the way certain communities crusade against AI is hurting actual, human artists. Especially those whose work skews toward the surreal. That is not ethical behavior and needs to be curbed.