Every support thread on Reddit is literally this now
10mon 15d ago by programming.dev/u/popcar2 in mildlyinfuriating from programming.dev
Exactly. Just used Redact myself a few weeks ago.
I wish I'd done that. I deleted my 12 year old account right before learning about these tools.
Thanks! Doing this tomorrow
Let it run during the night, mine took 20 hours or so to finish up. Reddit throttles the requests you make to its API, so it's slow
I don't either, but if no one ever tries github projects with zero stars how are they supposed to get stars?
Ah yes because the thing that makes 140 LOC you can read and understand in five minutes trustworthy is the number of other people who clicked a star button
/s
Explain how any of this is sus, you don't need to be a programmer:
https://github.com/Aryanb1102/Redact-Reddit-Data-Deleter/blob/main/reddit_data_deleter.py
Yes, because large corporations on the Internet definitely wouldn’t try to sway this metric at all, get off your own ass man fuck you
Read it then. It's literally a single script with 140 lines.
Well, this happens if you don't respect your users.
…or your moderators
…or your third party developers
...or MY AXE!!
Fuck the mods; bunch of thin skinned morons.
You get what you pay for…
I just realized this could be taken at least a couple different ways.
The way I intended was, Reddit relies fully on the free labor of volunteers for moderation.
It wasn’t intended to be a comment on not paying for Reddit. I believe all users on Reddit provide free value to the company whether by posting, commenting, or voting.
Fuck the owners and resulting enshitifacation too.
now hiding history to avoid bot detection by other users, but they are banning people allegedly to be bots, but not actual propaganda bots themselves.
I mean some, yeah. It's a community-run system, so naturally for every bad user, there's a bad mod, too.
But there's also a good mod for every good user, basically.
When Reddit's API debacle happened lots of people moved away. Some deleted their comments, some edited them with a message in protest. But sadly the consequences is that a lot of history and useful information got lost in the process.
I don't know how I feel about this. I understand why it's done and even why it needs to be done, but it still makes me sad considering the amount of times where Reddit saved me from massive headaches with IT stuff and so on...
As someone who deleted their posts... yes. The goal was to make Reddit worse, by removing my contributions to it because they forgot where their value came from.
My content had some small value to them. They didn't deserve it.
I hope they delete all your stuff when your account gets banned because I’ve left at least three of those in my wake
I'm fairly certain they do not
Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from
They don't delete your content, they just redact your username and disassociate each individual comment from your larger profile so nobody could, for example, click on the deleted user who posted a comment in r/abc and see they also posted a particular comment in r/xyz.
The reason tools like Redact (many of them all use this same name lol) have taken off in popularity is because they delete, or redact the contents of your posts before you delete the account, thus making even that vestigial data worthless.
Its not guaranteed. They may keep a copy of the original post around.
In fact, anyone could
I believe they are still there but hidden.
Quite possibily it depends on the type of ban you received (e.g. spam vs inflicting harm on xyz)
I know better than to threaten people online. It was all stupid political bullshit.
That's not really what I meant.
What I was trying to say is no ban is equal. Reddit may very well have nuance to bans they can utilize that will prevent you from just participating in comments/upvotes to full on shadow-bans.
I hear these justifications a lot, but the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.
The value of the archival data that can be affected by deleting or editing is almost entirely only user-accessed value. Reddit isn't harmed at all from the edits. It primarily needs active regular users to improve its stock value. Alternatively, it can sell archival data for AI training.
Editing old comments removes neither value source from Reddit. You moved away from it so deprived it of both the material value of new comments and the statistical value of being an active user. Reddit also assuredly has saved data from before the API issue and can likely spot and clean the mass edits to sell the data from training purposes.
Conversely, the value to users and society is high. So many solutions to problems that are gone forever. The Internet is decaying already and it gets harder to find useful information, and those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
It's their - and your - right, sure. They're by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.
Would you sign up for a social media website if all the tech support posts looked like the above?
I wouldn't sign up for a social media website if all the useful posts were from before June, 2023.
That's why the people deleting their posts also stop posting
This. Good points above an all, but they missed this being the main point. imo
If that were true, then why did Reddit respond to the mass deletions (that's what people did at first, not edits) by undeleting the comments?
those leaving decided to just burn down a library of Alexandria.
More like I had my book taken off the shelves because the librarians are dicks
Ah, where are those books now? Which shelves can I find them on?
I get the metaphorical point, but it's a point without effect. "Removing with no possible present or future access" is the same as "burning" for society's purposes.
where are those books now?
Lemmy
You've reposted all of your deleted Reddit comments to Lemmy?
Nope, all new comments. Better comments. If you miss the old ones, well sorry but it's weird that you're trying to claim ownership over my thoughts and self expression. I don't owe you or the internet a damn thing.
See the last paragraph of my post. I both addressed this, and am talking about past comments, not future comments.
You compared deleting my own posts to book burning. You have some weird sense of entitlement where you believe you own my thoughts. You don't. I do. I can change them, I can remove them, I can grow as a person and develop new thoughts and I don't give a shit if you like it.
Buddy, this is in my original post: "It’s their - and your - right, sure. They’re by definition done on comments the user owns. But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose."
I'm making a point about cause and effect, and started out conceding that you can do what you want with your own comments. You're arguing with a phantom projection of your own pet peeves.
Edit: Removed duplicate quote.
But this is just punching desperate Internet users in the face hoping it gives Reddit a bloody nose.
You're still implying they have a right to my thoughts. I strongly disagree.
You’re still implying they have a right to my thoughts. I strongly disagree.
Counterpoint: No, I'm not. You're making the life of internet users who are looking for a solution worse, and hoping Reddit is somehow harmed as a side effect. Nothing in that implies I think that I or they have a right to your thoughts. You are just following a poor strategy, lashing out using the only lever you have, without any logical basis to think it will achieve what you want. Your methods will not produce the results you seek.
If you feel differently, feel free to explain. I'll read your post. But I think I'm done replying to this thread for now - my original post said what I mean.
So tempted to delete all my replies just to spite you
the highest value content, is mostly political anyways, its draws in more money for a platform, because users are addicted ragebait.
Reddit undeleted a lot of the content removed during the API debacle. This comment must have been after that because you can see the latest comment is post API changes.
That's why I didn't close my account and still do a new turn of mass edits every 2-3 months. I have nothing deleted, just constantly overwritten. I get regularly banned from some subreddits after each wave, probably because some comments may trigger some sort of spam detection and edits alert the mods then.
reddit can detect if you did massedit as suspicious activity, a normal person cant change multiple comments at once, but with a script they will see it as botting.
The sad part of it is that they (reddit) can still access that deleleted information and sell it for AI training. Even as a "power" user you can use websites that "undelete" that content. The only ones truly affected by this are people randomly browsing reddit.
I mean it does reduce the value of the content that users created on reddit if a ton of random comments were deleted in protest. Every time you hit a thread like the OOP it reduces reddit 's value to the individual, and in aggregate it reduces reddits value
Did you actually read my comment? That's an issue casual users have. If you want to see deleted comments, there's a way to do that.
The only thing that actually hurts reddit is if people stop using it an generating new content.
Yup, Reddit fucked us all after we gave them our knowledge for free.
Trick people into thinking they're contributing to a commons, steal the contributions and run. Very understandable that many people decided to retaliate after the betrayal.
I really hope decentralized knowledge bases take off. Aggregating niche knowledge from experts and non-experts everywhere the internet touches is such a valuable proposition!
I had like one useful comment posted to Reddit. I've left it up, and once every few months I get a comment being appreciative for the info.
Reddit gets the traffic because of Google indexing the original post of a user with the problem. People are going to visit it regardless of whether they'll find the answer or not. In fact, if they don't find it, they're more likely to keep browsing posts in the hope of finding something.
I get that it's annoying, but reddit deserves to burn.
Reddit as a company is 100% unaffected by this
To an extent they are. Part of the appeal of Reddit was that you could find good answers there. But yeah, the idea that "long term their reputation may suffer" is hardly affecting them in any demonstrable way now.
100% unaffected? It makes their data worth a lot less for AI training. Even if they keep comment history, these are edits - how do you determine which edit to use? Using all of them poisons the data, and picking one risks doing the same.
On top of that, reddit has quickly become a non-source for opinions... I used to append "reddit" to any search where I wanted candid feedback, but absolutely would never do that these days. That's less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue. Reputation is virtually the only thing that matters for search, and Reddit's reputation has been sliding for years.
People paying reddit aren't training their models by scraping the web ui.
The original comments are still in the database, which is what you'd pipe into an LLM.
That’s less traffic, which is less ad money, which comprises the vast majority of their revenue.
and how many people do the same thing you do? they don't really care about 1% of dedicated users...
...you're joking, right? There is not a company in the world that is happy to ignore 1/100th of their revenue disappearing.
Is it going to kill reddit? Of course not. Are they "100% unaffected?" Of course not.
There is not a company in the world that is happy to ignore 1/100th of their revenue disappearing
except we are talking about USERS disappearing, not revenue. it is likely that revenue actually increased, because x+n (where n > 0) people paying more than zero generating more than zero is bigger number than x generating zero.
Reddit's primary source of revenue is ads, that is a simple fact. What metrics do you think matter when it comes to ad revenue?
and how many ads do you think all these now gone power users were displaying and consuming? 😂
the more technical helpful users are likely to do it, you think the vast majority of users give helpful comments?
you are forgetting that reddit is not just coders and sysadmins.
people writing comments about - i don't know - sneakers, might not care about the reddit drama at all. and all comments are helpful as AI training material - don't succumb to the biased idea that only what interests you is important or "helpful"
Sure, but the users are.
Good! The users add all the value to that site, moderate if for free and they couldn't even not be cunts about it.
they want propaganda bots mostly now on reddit.
Good for whom?
There's been loads of times where I've looked everywhere for a solution, finally finding it on google page 10+ in an obscure reddit thread with like 10 votes and 4 comments where someone had found a weird, illogical solution to your exact problem, that actually worked.
It's a shame it went to shit. The real losers are us, we lost a lot of knowledge.
That doesn't mean I think they should get to keep that stuff. Sure, we lost a lot of knowledge there, and that sucks. But the company lost out and pushed their IPO way back for it and I enjoy seeing Spez suffer after what he did to Aaron's legacy.
If that's how you feel, that's how you feel. But I personally doubt Reddit as a company have lost out. They still have all the data. And they still have a massive user-base. I'm sure Spez is suffering real bad with his hundreds of millions....
I feel like they lost prestige more broadly but I'm obviously bias being here on Lemmy. We see I guess, I predict them tanking after their IPO.
good, but it's not enough
The comment says removed, but the user says deleted.
And because of the large number of people who not only left Reddit, but burnt bridges in doing so by using tools to delete or garble their entite post history, it's hard to tell if this was Reddit's doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving the site.
it’s hard to tell if this was Reddit’s doing or just that of a fed-up user who deleted their own posts when leaving
The latter, Reddit doesn't remove your comments and posts when your account gets deleted.
I used a tool to overwrite mine right before the API bullshit went into effect, but searching for my account, it appears they were all restored.
I overwrote all my comments, then deleted them, and they've been restored as well. Anyone know a working tool to permanently delete stuff?
Give your account to a European user and have them order Reddit to delete everything via gdpr.
There is none.
I'm not going to post links and supporting evidence, I can't be bothered.
But creators and admins have gone on the record saying you never ever can remove or delete a comment, and every edit is saved. And furthermore, they just restore comments at their whim.
That's what I've noticed.
I initially used power delete suite which got maybe half of mine.
Then I went and started manually editing them with random words.
Then started deleting.
I'm very sure that some sub's have restored deleted comments. Amusingly sometimes with the random words instead of the original.
The only reason I never deleted my account is so that I can go back and mess up or delete stuff as it comes back. Fairly easy to find your comments with a search of your username.
Surprised they haven't just locked the ability to edit or delete older stuff. It's not like it ever really gets deleted, just removed from public view.
Yes and no.
Yes, they have every single version of every single comment you ever made and can fetch whichever one they want whenever they want.
But reddit is massive. That is WHY it depends so much on unpaid mods (like other social media sites of a much smaller size...).
So unless you are a "top influencer", the most they'll do is revert your deleted comments maybe one extra version. So if you use one of the tools that edit it prior to deletion, you are in good-ish shape.
Which is what we saw during the "protests". Plenty of people (self included) saw their comments come back. But the people who ran one of the editing deleters (with a non-default message) saw their edited messages return. Because that was the most recent on the stack.
They repeatedly restored deleted content during the "protests". Which is why most of us encouraged people to leave their accounts open to go re-wipe when Reddit corporate stopped caring.
I've gone back and checked a couple times, this is the first time I've seen them restored.
But now the API-based tool i used no longer functions
Rate limited so you might have to run it a few times over the course of a week but https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
The former is data they can index for Google searches to make Reddit more valuable as a resource. Reddit will never remove your data.
yea it doesnt, unless you were shadowbanned. if you got permabanned or delted your account your history isnt gone. shadowban however gets all posts hidden by other users, except yourself.
tools to delete or garble their entite post history
I had a 6 year account when the API scandal hit. Paid a small fee to deny reddit whatever 2 cents my comments are worth.
13 years for me. I killed so much content.
reddit comments only say removed when the mods or admins remove it. maybe the dude used a script to make all his comments say "I hate Reddit I am going to mail a pipebomb to carlos mencia in retaliation" and reddit nuked them.
What's wrong with doing that?
unfortunately some souls are lost and still think carlos mencia is funny
SAD!
I did the same.
Reddit showed it didn't give a fsck about my user experience with their banning of third party apps, but they still wanted to sell the content I put the effort in to providing.
Screw you guys. You want to make money off hosting my words, whatever. But don't stick a pineapple up my arse at the same time and expect me not to feel it.
I still use old reddit and I have an extension on iOS that modifies it to be usable on a phone. However, if old Reddit ends up getting the axe then I’m done for good.
Thanks for getting me to finally run one of these scripts to scramble and delete everything in my old account. Fuck every American corporation and their user experience.
They restored all my comments a few months later, so I've tried it again by editing all my comments to gibberish.
I keep checking mine, no reverse yet. Been a few months, 2 since my last purge
Exactly the tool I've used. I purged it about a year ago and randomly discovered that everything was restored about a month ago. I don't know when it was restored, though.
Thanks, SPEZ!
Fuck that pedophile wannabe.
Don't forget racist, too!
I really need to go back and delete all my posts, I just dropped it and never went back.
just say something that will you get you banned and they will delete all your comments and posts and your profile. they will appear as [deleted]. much easier tbh
they will appear as deleted, but they are not really deleted, they still have them in the database and still make money selling them 🤷♂️
would redact solve this?
make sense if reddit is a AI whore, and wants the money, what better way to have extra content from delete comments.
I had to manually delete my account when I got banned
I do wonder how much they soft delete stuff, so they can keep the data to sell. Also if they keto a history, do even if you manually delete/edit, do they have a copy on a server somewhere?
Not sure about edits, but its highly likely they still have every deleted post. Text is small and highly compressible, so there's no reason to delete it. So it makes more sense to keep it to sell later.
Does that help the fight? I was under the impression that they got to keep all the old info
They do, but it makes the site less useable for people, which is a win
its pretty hostile to new users, since it sees a new acc as potential spam. reddits goal is to become like FB, just run by bots, but importantly propaganda bots, so less effor to deal with users.
What I did was mass edit all my comments. According to reddit customer support (about a year ago at the time), they do not retain old versions of edited comments.
I used Redact a while back. Super easy. First replaced everything with filler text, then deleted. Just in case mods have auto-rollback for deletion.
You‘re harming people looking for help and support more than you harm Reddit.
And Reddit took people's goodwill to give free advice their and generate revenue from it for granted.
Which harms Reddit more than anything, as people will look elsewhere.
Reddit already only allows Google to scrape them now, so as far as I am concerned it is a dead site. Removing my comments is worth it to not feed the monopoly that is Google.
50% of the site is basically bots/propaganda bots. people dont realize they are responding to bots most of the time.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
What a spezhole
Yeah.. I did this too when leaving. Made a small app to edit and delete every comment I made. I actually had a useful IT related self hosting post which was also nuked. I guess that's the price the whole community had to pay for reddits thirst for profit.
Although, long ago, I heard of a rumor; all of reddit was frequently backed up and available for download. Is that still a thing? Was it ever a thing?
Can you post your app on GitHub? Many of us would love it. (Especially now if I ever need to visit the US I would have to delete all my JD Vance couch fucker comments)
Someone in this thread posted a similar thing that's probably better. When I left, there wasn't anything like it so I had to cobble something together.
I heard of a rumor; all of reddit was frequently backed up and available for download
I don't know about "available for download" (probably not), but: modern websites tend to have their content stored in a database, and databases are (or should be) regularly backed up to tape drive or optical disks or whatever. This means, fundamentally, that everything ever posted to a social media site like reddit or facebook will be in existence permanently, regardless of what efforts users take to subsequently delete their history from the current instance of the database.
The only way to truly "delete your data" would be to re-mount each old backup and delete the data in each of them before re-backing them up (or else destroying all the backups). No social media site does this or even could do this. Furthermore, when it comes to keeping your comment history out of the clutches of AI, I would almost guarantee that when a site like reddit sells its data to companies to train the AI on, they are selling old backups from before users started mass-deleting their posts.
There was pushshift, but it's locked down since the API thing, there's pullpush.io, but that seems down atm. Also there is reveddit. I think most or all of these do not store content that has been deleted by the user though.
I wish I'd deleted all my comments and posts before deleting my account.
Don't forget they're also selling all your freely provided content to AI scrapers as well. Fuck Reddit.
I wonder what happens to your account when you get banned
Believe it or not, straight to the AI farm.
From what I can tell, it continues to exist, but you can no longer post. They're not gonna just give up all that free data.
Cool they can have all my toxic hatred against Republicans for their AI to learn from
shadowban will however keeps your posts hidden from the public, but not from reddit itself.
This post of mine still comes up.
They will just put them back. Your stuff isn't really deleted.
Good.
They went public and made bank on free user input. Those users rebelled so the platform would suck.
It may still be standing but I feel we won over a year ago.
I made sure to remove all my posts before i left when they started blocking anonymous vpn users. 3 accounts across 15+ years all gone because of their stupid policies.
stackoverflow be like
"hey i have this problem and i can't figure it out"
posted 10 years ago
"nevermind i figured out it so all is good"
posted 10 years ago
Even worse is: "Here's a link to where I found the solution"
404
Awesome!!! Post your questions here instead
What kind of a boy is spez?
The fascist kind. A lot of high karma accounts got banned for no reason this last year. Destroying their own creation. Sad.
Cool it with the antifa remarks.
The anti fascist remarks?
Do you have a problem with anti fascists?
its a meme, bro get a grip
Learn to communicate please
Anything for you baby
A reliable source tells me Spez likes to diddle kids and has a micropenis.
Psst hey kid he's also a lil piss boy.
A greedy little piggy boy
Why? so it can be found in search engines when people are looking for answers? Sadly, Lemmy is terrible for searching for answers. Lemmy will likely never replace the true benefits of reddit, search engine indexing for solutions.
Who cares about the search engines? Ask your questions here and get an answer. It just takes longer
Have you ever been on a forum? Like even once? Sort by New and you'll find dozens of posts where the thread is shitting all over someone for asking something that has already been asked before.
We are in a forum right now dude lol.
But yeah I know how it can be you just need to find a friendly place. Like here!!
Fuck Spez!
They just added comment history hiding as well, so now you can’t even tell if some people are engaging in good faith anymore.
So I get banned for reporting trolls because it's an "Abuse of the Report Button" AND they make it easier to Troll? Do they just want people not using the site?
@QueenHawlSera @nightlily pretty sure that you just have to consider reddit as having been very much broken for a number of years now.
They erroneously ban good users and encourage the trolls.
The only way the experience is bearable is just to block idiots yourself and not engage.
I couldn't even get them to respond to appeals, so I just deleted the fucking account
I was a paying user who accidentally used an alt account a day before a ban was up.
The ban was ridiculous and unjustified but I understand alt accounts are against the rules. My appeal was rejected.
It was stupid if me to pay in the first place. My profile was linked to my real identity as result.
Like I said, I never got a rejection, they just straight up did not answer my appeal.
@QueenHawlSera lol. they blocked my account for having been created to evade a previous ban. Which was odd. First account there.
Figured it was some automated bollocks they'd be able to check.
Appealed, they reinstated it. Then permabanned it later same day for same reason. Gave up.
Sadly that scans, apparently Reddit is one of the hardest websites to do a ban evade on because it does so many checks. If it gets the slightest whiff of something pertaining to a banned account, they ban you and increase the amount of checks they do.
Not surprised they have false positives.
you cant tell if people are botting/spamming
WTF? View removed comment?
Welcome to "soft delete", where database entries are marked with a "deleted" flag instead of being actually deleted. Makes it trivial to restore things a user has "deleted". Actually, even without soft deletes, modern databases maintain an audit trail which tracks all changes made anywhere, which also makes it easy to restore "deleted" items. And actually actually, databases are regularly backed up and when a user "deletes" their data the sites don't go into the backups and delete the data there, so everything anyone posts is technically in existence forever (not really because because backups won't last forever but they can last a very long time).
I'm sure that when reddit sells its data to companies to train their AI on, they're selling backups from before users started mass-deleting their histories.
It's for alternate Reddit front-ends and rarely ever works.
I love that people are removing the solutions, but keeping the “holy shit you just saved me 2-3 full quarters of work”
That's because the person who had the solution removed their comment history, but the person who said thank you didn't.
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I wish we were at the point where its applicable to every support question. fuck reddit. the company. not the knowledge base provided by its users.
How would I go about doing this? I want to nuke all my comments since I know deleting my account won't
Edited with Power Delete Suite - https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
I do this every few months, scans the page, makes the changes. You can see with my account https://old.reddit.com/u/thermal_shock
Been about a month, will probably run it this weekend. Surprising I've only been blocked in some subs, no ban even though I said they all the billionaires should be killed lol
Thank you for the links, I think I will try the power delete suite you linked! I might do the same and just edit all my comments to be something like that before I log out for the last time. Sick of that website tbh.
There were tools to do it for your... but after the massive migration they blocked a ton (part of the API block that drove everyone away)
The API is still available in dev mode, just obtain the client ID and secret to authenticate the app. I used shreddit this way, it was more thorough than PowerDeleteSuite when I gave it the GDPR checkout. Both tools produce a log so you can refer to the posts/comments later.
if you google how to do this, you can find some threads, i used a github library that did it pretty easily with a step by step walk through, some let you edit it and fill with quotes or advertising or whatever.
I will look into this, ty!
I personally manually overwrite my comments every few months. Be aware, though, that you can see only the last 1000 comments in your history, so you'd better do it frequently if you are very active. I haven't seen any of my comments ever restored, unlike what I hear from people who use automated tools.
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This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
Use bad words like sex, porn, diversity, gay, for maximum effect.
DEI, trans, equal rights, tump fucked kids.
It's annoying, but it had to be done.
Remember, the capitalization of resources like this is a planned attack against the lower, middle, working class from uniting against the elite and capitalistic agenda. Reddit was a sharing of knowledge, and the control of knowledge, to the elite, should be solely within their control, and the sharing of knowledge to the aforementioned working class groups is a direct assault on their power.
That’s why they bought Reddit out and sunk it.
It’s not just ‘Fuck Spez!’, sure he caved and monetized Reddit, but his actions were just a symptom of the wider issue; capitalism is another tool designed by the elite to subjugate the working class.
I did my part to protest Reddit's awful policies by nuking everything I'd ever posted to deny their ability to give it platform. Less information = site less useful.
A drop in the ocean really, but a lot of people did the same which the Reddit admins did take notice of. Not that spez cared anyway because he's a cunt.
I like seeing blank comments on there now. It's often a sign of somebody else who got fed up with Reddit's bullshit.
I have to say I was having issues using reddit on my browser, it was a simple html issue where I couldn't break paragraphs, and I went to the support sub and they fixed it within 2 days.
I've had mods ban me for visiting, not commenting or posting, just viewing a post from another sub. I'm sure I got shadow banned plenty of times. I left because of the users. I disagreed that someone should Go No Contact with their dementia suffering grandpa for being racist and I felt like I was going crazy with the commenters who tore me a new one.
I stayed for while after because fuck, I'd been on reddit since it had r/all and not much else. I blocked out the one that got me to quit for good. I don't even want to check back in for curiosities sake because fuck them. I wasn't wrong in the slightest.
And after that you chose Lemmy of all places? No offense, but the people and especially the mods here are even more batshit crazy when it comes to anything even remotely considered not left. 😂
I got banned from PoliticalMemes for saying that Hamas are a terrorist organization. Someone else got banned from the entirety of Blahaj.zone for saying that dragons aren't real. The list goes on. Reddit is centralist heaven compared to Lemmy! Heck, some of the mods are openly Putin and Winney Poo fan tankies!
That being said, there's still a lot of cool people and communities here that are pretty nice. Just stay away from anything even remotely political if you're not a downright communist/tankie. 🫣
Edit: The downvotes and comments below are once again proofing my point.
Edit2: Seems like I got myself another social stalker with this comment - CakeLova556@feddit.org
Reddit is centralist heaven compared to Lemmy!
Reddit used to be a utopia like Lemmy before all the dipshits showed up. It was very left-leaning, and there's a reason /r/atheism was so prominent.
Oh man /r/atheism was so bad for my mental and social health back in the day
let's not tell them about lemmy then
Someone else got banned from the entirety of Blahaj.zone for saying that dragons aren't real.
There's joke subs (i know of r/switzerlandisnotreal) with respective rules.
And i've not seen much right-leaning comments on c/all.
Yeah, I get so pissed when people nuke their comment history. Why do that when you don't have too much of personal revealing information in that post or comment? Even one of the mods of AskHistorians expressed frustration of insightful posts and comments being deleted by OP. I did not even delete any of my posts before I deleted my Reddit account, because there are no revealing information, and I know some of my posts and comments will be helpful for others.
You may disagree with the net effect of the decision, but the decision is not hard to understand. The people that are doing it are placing a larger value on harming Reddit as a platform to hopefully force corrective change or encourage movement to competing platforms. You place a larger value on preserving knowledge.
You say you get pissed. My question is do you get pissed at the person who deleted it, or do you get pissed at Reddit for alienating it's own users to the point of deleting their own comments?
I have just read other people's comments as to why Redditors delete their comments. But even before the enshitiffication, I and others find it frustrating when comments are deleted.
I do too. But I blame Reddit for that, not the users.
I'm trying to get the image of spez wanking to that price graph out of my head.
censorship and being censured as well.
When Twitter went downhill, we got bluesky and mastodon. Bluesky works as a decent Twitter replacement and Mastodon is smaller and more fediverse-focused. Lemmy and Piefed are alternatives to Reddit but I wouldnt really say that Lemmy fully replaces Reddits functionality in terms of niche subs. That's why I've always been in favor of explosive growth here with each Reddit exodus, to have a forum within an order of magnitude or two of the size of Reddit to properly become a replacement.
Don't forget the random comments in other languages because people are not aware of reddit's shitty auto-translate feature when you come from a google search.
Are there any tools that can edit your comments to make the ingestion of your data into ai models less worthwhile? Eg. The comments are edited to not be random, superficially look like a human made them, but have very little value when sold by reddit
I forget the tool but every once in a while you'll see a comment of gibberish words and it says "comment removed thanks to X".
The service edits the comments instead of erasing them.
Good. Separately, I really wish we had a way to search for useful answers on Lemmy. I feel like much of the reddit was exposed through: "question/key words" site: reddit.com googling
I mean, you can do pretty much that by using one of the largest instances. That is most likely to have content from the largest amount of other instances.
I get what you're saying it's just not as practical. Many won't look for the largest/most relevant instance for their questions.
Lemmy doesn’t even have a fraction of the useful information you could find on Reddit across lots of topics.
Good, fuck reddit, anybody with an account should delete all comment history.
I provided quite a few answers in Linux, UNIX, and programming forums. I had to delete my comments multiple times as they kept getting restored. I even had a script that I'd run in my browser that would go through and delete all my posts until a month passed with no restorations, then deleted my account. Reddit should never be a Google result for tech help to begin with. It should take you to documentation.
yeah when I left I deleted everything. When I was talking about it to a friend who uses it, and knows my account, informed me that all my interactions with them are still there. Took a look, and yeah, everything restored.
I know I deleted all my posts from multiple accounts before coming here.
For the record some of my deleted posts got reposted/reset by Reddit. I could see my old comments in a few sybs that absolutely purged as I left.
'23 is late enough, but it should be peppered with comments overwritten by 60 random words, just to make it worse
Remember to occasionally search for "site:reddit.com [your username]".
I did this and found this.
MemeReserveBot couldn't reserve shit, lol.
How is it possible to view deleted comments?
Redlib (alternative front-end to Reddit) puts a link to undelete for removed comments. undelete.pullpush.io
I didn't mean to ask how one can view the comments. I meant to ask how it's possible at all in the first place.
Iirc using the 'delete' button just does the equivalent of breaking the link to a picture. The data is still there.
This is why, during the mass exodus, many people were sharing scripts to edit your comments with random words before deleting them. Because deleting them leaves the content available in the database, but editing actually overwrites the data. So even if Reddit later decides to undo the deletions, (which they did), then they’ll just be a bunch of gibberish undeleted comments.
Oh right. Unless I'm mistaken, Pushshift was a data collection platform that provided an API for getting Reddit data, before the API change ruined it. When someone deletes a comment, it's still there in the database. Pullpush is a fork.
Good
Since apparently people still don't know this, it is unlikely that reddit has been restoring deleted posts & comments. Historically, there was a limit to how much could appear on a user's profile and even deleting stuff to back below the limit would not restore the visibility of items already pushed off.
They did relatively recently change this though so if you still have access to your account you can see and nuke the rest (although with the api lockdown and rate limiting shit nowadays it's not as quick & simple).
Another reason this how idea got started was during the api fiasco, a fuckload of subs went private so anything in said subs did not show on profiles during that time. As mods capitulated or were removed, subs went public again and hidden content showed back up; people who nuked their accounts, via user profile pages, in this period assumed reddit was restoring their deleted stuff.
Yea, this kind of problem is only going to get worse I expect.
I set up self-hosted linkwarden the other day to try to avoid this going forward.
Oh god it's happening here too
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Yea I have libredirect running to show me reddit stuff on alt front ends should I click a link that usually goes to it, but when talking about linkwarden I meant to make it in reference to preventing link-rot for anything in general on any site in the future as well, not just reddit.
… so now they’re linking to the deleted comments? Lol I guess they do need the users…
No that's a redlib thing
Whoa since when can you view removed comments?
libreddit instance allows you to do that. one I'm using right now: https://discuss.whatever.social/
note that you have to kinda bounce around from instance to instance as some will be great for a couple weeks then go away or crash and then you have to find another one.
lol, yeah. Ain't it funny?
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Is this post better suited for c/mildlyinfuriating or c/fuckingawesome?
I know it's great that Reddit is getting less useful but it's still infuriating that I can't find any help on very specific issues where the only answer was that one deleted comment/post.
Oh yeah, I sympathize with that problem. I have no sympathy for Reddit though. We all should have invested our time in something that had the users' best interests in mind. Something like the fediverse.
I'm unfamiliar with Reddit because I haven't had an account, but can people delete their account on Reddit, and does that automatically delete all their stuff too?
No, you have to individually overwrite all your comments and then delete them to actually make them disappear. Even after all that workl some people have reported their comments returning.
Just checked my account and despite overwriting all my comments before deleting them...yeah, they're all back now.
and this is why when I delete my comments on lemmy I edit them.
Lemmy deletes the posts if a user is banned from their own instance or you delete the account.
that's cool. Reddit used to too.
I'm not expecting lemmy to be a dick about it, but call it insurance.
actually they dont, whenever i deleted an account due to permabanning, the comments remain, unless its removed by a mod themselves it will remain.
no it doesnt, you have to use an extension or a script to delete it. only shadowbanning prevents another users from viewing, but reddit still has access to it.
I dont think its the same cause but I was looking for pressure washer recs a few days ago and came across a few reddit posts that had entire chains of comments from different individuals and every single one had been deleted. One of the posts wasn't even that old (pre API change or anything like that). It was definitely odd to see.
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Try AI tbh. It's saved me from tons of forum posts in pursuit of specialized technical knowledge, where I'd often be lucky to get a response at all.
You have downvotes because lemmy hates LLMs so much. It doesn't reflect reality or the general population. I'm not even critical of the hate, its the communities consensus.
Are LLMs good or just everything else is so enshitified that they look good in comparison?
Purity test not found. It's a tool, it is useful to me and saves me time and trouble.
I just use ChatGPT.