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Collage of Right Wingers calling for violence post-Kirk shooting

9mon 10d ago by lemmy.world/u/popjam in peoplebluesky

This should be paired for contrast, as often as possible, with a collage of right-wing poster reactions mocking, minimizing or disputing the murder of Melissa Hortman and her husband.

Well interestingly I could not find Kirk saying anything about Melissa Hortmans killing. That day is chock full of huge boner post for Israel Iranian War. When another shooting happened a day later he said (excerpt):

now today's diabolical attack in Minnesota, allegedly by Vance Luther Boelter.

There are far too many mentally unstable and suggestible people on the left …

With lots of decoration, projection and minimization around this tidbit. Full text

Edit: I'm aware Boelter turned out to be more of a Christo-Fascist. That's why I found Kirk immediately blaming "the left" without knowing anything so weird.

It was a really popular conservative conspiracy that Vance Boelter was a Democrat. Conservative talking heads know their base won't do any fact checking, so they made up a narrative and their audience ate it up. I bet many of them still believe Boelter was a Democrat, despite all evidence to the contrary

They asked people to not protest over this, in order to keep them safe. The protesters didn't listen.

By contrast, Ben Shapiro canceled his event TWO STATES Away in California because he was afraid of the event in Utah.

These cowards are such trash. They talk this HUGE talk, then a warm breeze threatens to melt them. I can't believe their party originally coined the "snowflake" term that so perfectly describes them.

I can’t believe their party originally coined the “snowflake” term that so perfectly describes them.

As always: Gaslight Obstruct Project

There's been multiple attacks but crickets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi

Let's not even get started about the weekly school shootings.

All for a guy that's not even a politician .

Nazi's murdered a dem senator and the no one really flipped hell kirk probably laughed. But now Nazi's want an excuse to shoot up and bomb cities ?

And very likely that the shooter was a Republican. They're just looking for an excuse to go full Nazis on the "opposition"

I dunno if I'd say very likely. We don't know anything about the shooter yet, beyond they're suspected to be college aged

Love the guy saying it's like the Reichstag fire. So the shooter is a nazi?

That one got to me. There is a strong reason to believe the Reichstagsfire was a self incited crisis to justify a power grab. Why do people think this is a good comparison?

Well, in this case that could be a perfect comparison. Maybe that person knows something we don't...

I mean, they're openly saying it's like that, therefore they should seize emergency powers

Might as well admit they're fascists. They're also picking the most hated fascist regime in history as their example to emulate

I mean most likely. My theory is that it's some QAnon guy pissed about the Epstein stuff.

Honesty seems likely. I feel like a leftist would go after someone more important but it could have just been an opportunity/access thing like he happened to live there or something.

Still seems insane that it happened and the person got the fuck out of there scot-free, whilst some other poor sap got snatched for the deed.

I mean, that's very likely. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was a false flag either

I love the guy calling it the American Reichstag Fire. Oh boy, if only he knew German history.

Right? Like wow, so youre putting the Trump administration in the position of the Nazi party in this thought experiment. How revealing.

Well if you look at them, it's not exactly wrong

ahhh the fascists' favourite adversary: "they"

something something war on pronouns

Tell me again how many right wing nut jobs have been shooting up the US the last few decades.

There's a good chance this guy was one too, he just disagreed on Kirk's favourite pizza topping or something

Must have been a Trans republican or something.

vomits in mouth

be careful who you ask that question. The last guy who got asked a similar question was shot right after trying to turn it into a racist dog-whistle.

Oh the burn!

Almost every single shooting was done by a Right wing lunatic.

They havent even caught the shooter... they dont even know they are a leftist.

They could be, likely are, but it doesnt matter. If it turns out to have been someone on the right or someone from outside the US political spectrum it will be swept under the rug.

The right are hijacking this to spread propaganda. Utter bollocks

WSJ published a story this morning reporting that “sources” claim they found a hunting rifle in the woods and unspent ammo that had “trans and antifa ideology” written on them.

If that sounds ridiculous, that’s because it is.

Almost as ridiculous as when that guy said trump was an FBI informant on epstine.... this administration is as dumb as they think the people are.

Well they're right. Whatever they say, the right buys.

WSJ is a mouthpiece of Trump. No US medium except for the Jacobin is to be trusted.

It's not even likely. I was born in 1980 there have been thousands of mass shootings since then in the US. Two of the shooters in the last 45 years had leftist tendencies. The vast majority of them were hard line right wingers.

My money is and forever will be on right winger mad about how quickly Kirk got in line on Epstein.

I mean, in the collage is this one guy who talks about the attempt on Trump. That guy was a Republican. I mean, it is not news, but they do not care about facts.

I noticed on Reddit. Within a half hour boys and Fox News along with other right wing voices were already pushing a very extreme anti leftist propaganda across the board. Before he was even announced dead and obviously before anyone even knew who the shooter was.

It was so wild to see it happen live as if it was an ad campaign that was planned for release.

It won't matter at that point either. They started telling a story from the start and the amount of times it gets repeated in pursuit of their ambitions will eclipse the truth when it comes out. It isn't like they're all going make posts saying, 'Zoinks guys we were wrong. It wasn't the dems like we've been saying with no evidence because it was convenient, for all these weeks. Put the torches and pitchforks down.' the narrative lives on long after the facts become known. It's literally why facts in media actually mattered at one point.

They're going to convict a trans person.

They are using it to advocate for significantly more violence. I don't really want to advocate for violence but what else can you do if people are trying to remove your rights?

Oh yeah, blockades and general strikes would be a good one to try first. Fuck, even property damage is better than killing people.

For whatever reason it's near impossible to act as a group in this country. The bigger the movement the bigger the target and oligarchy rallies and kills it in it's crib. The economic and propaganda stranglehold is too tight.

And so individual acts that can be planned and executed under the oligarchy's radar (like what happened yesterday) are seemingly the only things left.

That's why they are pushing the surveillance shit hard.

Ukraine has shown just how easy it is to blow up an oil refinery if you wanted to protest against the Russian fossil fuel industry.

Watch it be another libertarian like Luigi

The pronoun "they"

"They" has declared war on our country and must be stopped at all costs

(/s)

Total silence regarding those two lawmakers though, weird.

and trump is distracting by giving KIRK MILITARY HONORL BURIALs too.

That's what MAGAs do: they'll ask you to be extremely polite and civil, reproach your jokes and ask for human compassion while burning crosses at your door.

They do incrementally worse things while criticizing any over reaction. It's literally what Putin does geopolitically. Enough to make progress but always under the threshold of a meaningful response. Incremental changes are much easier to accept than big moves. Its only when they are confident or desperate that a big move happens.

This may age like milk but, I look forward to the conversation in two weeks when these same voices age saying

"we need to move on from the tragedy of the Charlie Kirk shooting"

And

"Charlie Kirk did not represent true conservative values"

in two weeks from now trump will be back posting memes about killing dems and the media will blame dems for the lack of civility

It is likely/possible the shooter was a groyper and a follower of Nick Fuentes. So a white supremacist who felt Kirk was insufficiently pro-white. They'd been stalking him for months over Kirk criticizing Trump once and also talking to a comedian who recently called for impeachment.

So yeah, they'll bury this, or want to.

They'll frame a trans person. WSJ is already setting the groundwork

And Alex Jones and the ilk are running with it.

But they reported all that before the imagea of the suspect were shown. They'll buy it as much as Trump the FBI informant. (Which is still more than it ever should.)

Hooray I'm gonna end up in a camp

We should move on, gun violence is inevitable but the 2nd amendment is eternal

John Brown and Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong. Kirk’s shooter didn’t either. The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. While illegal, killing fascists and fascist sympathizers is morally just.

Rot in piss, Charlie

Your account has been permanently banned by Reddit admins.

Like a million times.

And remember when the violent left went and made all kind of unhinged tweets supporting political violence and retribution against conservatives all over America after Melissa Hortman and her husband in a act of politically motivated violence? When the same thing happened when Paul Pelosi was nearly killed and the violent left declared war and the extermination of Republicans?

Yeah, not even pepperidge farms remembers that because the Right has nothing but projection.

"We Are All Domestic Terrorists"

Fuck, it would be so pathetically hilarious for the second American civil war to start over Charlie fucking Kirk of all people. It'd be like if WW1 started because the pet fish of the wife of the cousin of the Archdike's brother was shot.

It was his most beloved pet fish.

Amount of Russian assets, bots and useful idiots are going rampant. They want US to go to civil war.

Absolutely they do. If America falls to civil war, it's sphere of influence contracts and Russia becomes more powerful in that vacuum.

Well, I kind of want it as well. Honestly, the political ideals are too divided. I dont want to live in the same country with MAGA. Divide the country up or get rid of one of the political ideals.

More like pedophile assets. They voted against measure to release Epstein files yesterday.

What Alexandr Dugin wants to happen: a disunited States as much as chaotic as the collapse of Yugoslavia.

the influencers are all russian shills to begin with, its was kinda obvious they were very quiet the past few months about epstein, the more they try to rail on it the more people want it released. i was on reddit prior tulsi being confirmed and the ban waves, and someone was "how she is a russian shill, i was like what planet are you on, shes been one since '16

Always has been

THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US

rofl what the average radical leftist's "war" looks like

I want your children to be happy, healthy, and have a future worth looking forward to

I always laugh at "radical leftist". I want actual examples or policies. I can give radical right wing examples and policies all day.

same, most policies in the US are center right if not outright moderate or far right.

Reminds me of soil. You need depth for your roots. People like you can be tall and strong but you still need a healthy substrate.

Other people are like weeds and can thrive in nutrient starved dirt. And they make the soil worse so that good people are stressed and pressured into dying off.

Weeds actually improve soil though, when they die and break down they provide what wasn't there before for the next round of plants. They are pioneer plants.

This metaphor is getting too good

I feel really bad for Charlie Kirk, he was about 2 years away from continuing to declare school shootings make us free while having a school aged child. That level of hypocrisy is what they live for, and he never got it ;_;

He got shot at a school, while debating some guy about what minorities to blame for gun violence.

Realize what you have, babe! You can do fucking stratigraphy with that many layers of irony!!!

"charlie kirk being 'assassinated' is the American equivalent of reichstag fire"?

"complete crackdown"?

You know you're admitting to being a nazi, right?

Well, they're fascists, so some of them do and the others are stupid but you can't ever be sure which is which

What's the over/under on Utah police just grabbing some random homeless person and announcing they've caught the killer?

As long as the homeless person they pick up isn't a straight white male, I could see it happening

They're calling shit pretty early, considering the guy who tried killing Trump was a right winger.

Just testing whether the base is ready to actually go to war yet.

The fucking hypocrisy of calling it the reichtag (excuse my spelling) fire.

Yeah that was a very interesting thing to post. Unless the poster is a public Nazi, it shows a really poor understanding of history

Yes, but I don't think it's unlikely that the current US regime will use this event in exactly the same way.

I mean, with the Supreme Court ruling that the president is above the law and his rather far-reaching powers, the US supreme Nazi already has options that are somewhat similar to those of the "Enabling Act" following the Reichstag fire.

Regardless of who ultimately shot the guy, the US regime will probably jump on this—if only because it serves as a bogus argument for further autocratic advances and also as another distraction from the Eppstein list.

Besides, the US regime is certainly ruthless enough to do so.

They've been wanting a war ever since their great grandaddies got their asses handed to them by the union armies. If we give it to them this time, I propose we totally eradicate them rather than waste time on a second Reconstruction

If being losers wasn't part of the south's cultural identity, they wouldn't be so itching for a fight all these years.

Gonna be hilarious when they find out that the shooter was some red neck bigoted fucknut MAGAt loser...

It's practically already written in truth. The perpetrator most likely was a MAGA asshat.

If they a part of MAGA, why attack one of their own?

Because their personal experience with MAGA in power somehow failed to match their expectations, and they feel betrayed.

Maybe they were just supremely in on the Epstein stuff and supposed allies backing down on their stance feels like a supreme corruption.

Maybe they were unemployed and didn't magically get a job. Maybe they were employed but thought MAGA would mean a raise but he got laid off for whatever reason. Maybe they went to a fast food place and the order taker had a Mexican accent despite assumptions they would all be out of the country.

Maybe they thought that the right wingers were right, but too passive and wanted to incite a hot civil war.

Or maybe he went all in on it and his wife left him and he blames people like Charlie Kirk instead of himself.

There's all sorts of ways it could be someone inclined to be MAGA. The conservative right played to a dangerous extremism and all sorts of things can go horribly wrong when you play with that sort of fire. Same goes for most any extremism.

In general, any extremist movement can appear all on the same page until they get real power, then all hell can break loose as they discover they don't perfectly agree on everything, or circumstances don't fully match their expectations.

Of course it could be a left wing person, or a foreign actor, or someone with a mental condition, we just have no inkling at all yet. It's just a possibility, and one that was represented in the two would-be Trump assassins.

I personally think it's more likely to be someone who agrees with his rhetoric rather than is opposed. He was very odious, but not really wielding real power, so I think someone inclined to disagree with him is less likely to be moved that hard to action compared to someone that might feel somehow betrayed by him. But lots of room for mental health to really be the driver and then all bets are off on any ideology.

The violent rhetoric they espouse is not limited to members of an opposing faction.

It is probably a right wing crazy person. I think pedos hired them though. Bet they never find the shooter.

Looks like you called it lmao

None of these people will "fight" anything. Elon Musk good lord give me a break. You can't even fight in a video game.

I'm wondering how many are even "people", rather than Russian bots etc

He's such a whiny little bitch that he thinks committing crime in GTA is immoral. Meanwhile he commits tons of crime every single day, but it's white collar so no big deal.

These cheeseburger Nazis are mouth foaming because they know the left will curl their tail and end up apologizing for such an act of violence, hence owning said act.

How about instead we answer back with Bring it on, Nazis!

Not a single one of these assholes is going to grab his fetish rifle and march down the street hunting liberals, whatever that means.

Uh, two politicians are dead in Minnesota thanks to a cheeseburger nazi

This. The reason we shouldn't respond that way is we'd lose

Just like we always do. Lose. So what's the point? You either believe in something that's worth dying for or you don't.

THAT wasn't Violence OR A right Winger!

You gotta either spice up your post or end with an /s.

There are simply too many clueless dipshits who genuinely believe this kind of thing for people to read this as sarcastic.

Yeah ok.

Thank you for your attention on this matter.

Most of them won't grab their fetish rifles, but a few will. This is definitely just the beginning of escalating political violence in America, in my opinion.

Hopefully America will fall in the process or something like that. We're such a fucked up and sick culture

This is definitely just the beginning

:-/ We're well past the beginning. Three guys took pot-shots at Trump on the campaign trail, ffs. And two Minnesota state reps were gunned down in June. That's not even counting the daily War On Elementary Schools And Minority Frequented Big Box Retailers that splatter the headlines. Or the white nationalists lined up along the border who have been gunning down anyone who looks brown and on the wrong side of the fence for... decades.

You can trace this ugly inflammatory political violence back to Gabby Giffords, back to Oklahoma City, back to MLK and JFK/RFK, back to Emmitt Till. We're long past a beginning.

Trump also pardoned the Jan 6th lot, that was kinda political violence

definitely just the beginning of escalating political violence in America

Not quite the beginning. I'd say we're at the tipping point, where attacks against notable people on 'the other side' start ramping up. It's usually significant amounts of time between attempts. The congress baseball game, the congresswoman shot in the head, the plan to kidnap the governor, the attack on paul pelosi, the two minnesotan families attacked, rand paul (though that was because he's an asshole of a neighbor more than politics, wasn't it?)... all of these were pretty spread apart. Now we're getting to mere months between political actors being targeted, and I don't see it slowing down. With a dumbrident trump literally making 'war' memes about sending troops into american cities, we are going to see things get even worse.

The beginning was years ago. It's ongoing now.

they know the left will curl their tail and end up apologizing

I don't see anyone on "The Left" apologizing. But I do see Kirk's Podcast Co-host Gavin Newsom and Senile Senator Schmuck Schumer issuing strongly worded letters condemning violence in the abstract.

Not a single one of these assholes is going to grab his fetish rifle and march down the street hunting liberals, whatever that means.

We had a school shooting in Colorado the same day Charlie was sent to the Big Debate Arena in the sky. Clearly there's an appetite for picking up guns and going on roaring rampages of indiscriminate killing.

I would not be surprised in the slightest if we see another Gabby Giffords or Emerita Melissa Hortman assassination in the near future.

The NYT coverage was nauseating and going on and on about what a great guy Mr. ToiletPaper was.

It's interesting how the NYT keeps getting treated like a legitimate news source, and not the captured media outlet propaganda it is.

These people are going through the stages of grief.

First they were in denial he was shot, now they are angry, soon they will bargain for blood. Then one by one become depressed with acceptance.

Such is life

They need to just get over it. These kinds of things happen.

I think the reason for the outrage is they are getting treated like progressives and can't handle it.

The worst part is these right wing psychos won't see the violence is happening on both sides and instead blame "communists" or something like that

How's this any different from their usual calls to violence? How do their threats differ from the right wing assassins, Queer space shootings, planned parenthood and abortion clinic bombings?

They want chaos. Laugh mockingly

Wasnt the trump shooter MAGA and they shut the fuck up? How do they know the shooter here isnt a disgruntled right wing nut?

almost all the shooters were right wingers, the dem politicians, shooter was a right winger, the MSMs immediately dropped the story to avoid connecting the dots for the republicans.

The one who clipped his ear didn't seem to have much identifiable political motivation. He googled a bunch of politicians from both parties and found Trump was closest.

The one who shot at him on the golf course appears to have been motivated by the war in Ukraine, maybe?

Neither had any big democratic manifesto or anything.

I don't think we actually know the motivation of Kirk's shooter either. I think these folks are just assuming a Democrat did it because that's who they already wanted an excuse to start killing.

What I said was that he didn't appear to have much identifiable political motivation for the shooting, which is largely supported by that article. The person I was replying to asked if he was MAGA, which it does not appear he was. I mean, I suppose you could assume that every registered Republican at this point must be MAGA, but I feel like the fact that this guy took a shot at Trump kind of calls that assumption into question.

Basically I don't think "he was a registered republican!" says anything more about his motivation than "he donated to a progressive get-out-the-vote program in 2021!" which was a big talking point on the right-wing news at the time. People are complicated and he wasn't disinterested in politics, but it seems like the main reason he tried to kill Trump is that he wanted there to be more political assassination attempts in general and decided to be the change he wanted to see in the world.

All Republicans are facists. Maybe it wasn’t true at one time but in my lifetime it has been the case and they’ve gotten so extreme that democrats are what republicans were in the 80s

Are you saying that you think being fascist was his motivation for shooting at Trump?

I think it’s a violent ideology that promotes and glorifies violence. Do you disagree?

What I think is that to learn someone has attempted a deadly attack, then learn that their voter registration is with a particular party, and conclude that this tells you everything you could possibly need to know about the motivation of the attack is bizarrely reductive. I asked if you thought fascism was the motivation for the attempted Trump shooter's actions because your previous reply had shifted the conversation to fascism and I was trying to understand what you perceived as its relevance to the conversation. I was not, in any way, attempting to defend fascism, and I'm kinda troubled to have given anyone that impression.

In any case I think this conversation is getting unproductive. I'm sorry I got you riled.

I’m not riled but I don’t agree with you. I do think your inferences of emotion based on nothing are weird and reflect poorly on you.

Shooter is hired by pedophiles who did not want people to notice that GOP voted against releasing the Epstein files again yesterday. They even had NASA announce finding biomarkers on Mars that could not have been made without heat. The heat markers that would have been present for it not to be biological were not there. So they voted against releasing files, announced discovery of ancient extraterrestrial life, and possibly attacked a flotilla with the most prolific climate activist in the world, then shot a racist, misogynist, Christian nutbag to piss the right-wingers off, all to cover up the files. ...again.

Also, the day before, a young Navy chief went before congress to show a video taken from a ship. It shows a UFO flying. They had deployed a drone and fired a hellfire missile. The UFO split into 4 pieces, temporarily and slightly destabilized, and completely recovered within seconds.

Cover up 100%. Has to be. Only those rich pedos have that much power. Congressional showing UFOs resilient to missiles, then a major scientific discovery we've been trying to make for decades just so happens to occur the exact next day? Bullshit. We are being played.

100%s kirk was assasinated by trump, one of kirks most recent rants was releasing the files. also trump losing favour with russian propaganda as well.

Interesting how I just got done mentioning in another thread that they essentially just flip the truth on its head and start talking. Pretty much just the direct opposite of the truth all the time.

Wouldn't be surprised if Trump himself ordered a military sniper to do it as a distraction from Epstein and to stir up rhetoric about can't do elections anymore because of the political violence or soemthing.

This is what collapse of a society/civilization looks like. It's not one big event like the sacking of rome, it's the cultural norms eroded. Vigilante/militia actions becoming more and more common is a classic sign.

Ew, there's an Elon in the bottom-right corner trying to be relevant. He knows he was exiled from the Republican Party and lost most of his standing with the right for going against Trump, right?

Musk isn't trying to get back into their good graces as much as he sees himself as being a legitimate target and he's scared.

Last time he used one of his children as a human shield for weeks.

Bruh, “Democrats”????? Like Nancy Pelosi out here doing direct action?

Pelosi going Mangione would be dope.

That imagery would be fantastic. Let the old dinosaurs do something good with the last dregs of their life.

That's a picture worth saving. For the inevitable post some Republican will make about how peaceful they are. And how 'mature' they act. Reply with this every single time, watch these people in the photo get disowned so fast by the people they associate with.

Is Sean Davis (bottom left) confessing to Republicans stealing the 2024 election?

Sounds like a claim that Democrats attempted and failed to steal the election

every accusation etc etc

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Bring it on motherfuckers, maybe you'll learn you're not the only ones armed in this country. If y'all want to throw down I'm not opposed to making the world a better place one corpse at a time.

If they want to be victims so badly, we should make them into victims.

l cut ties with anyone remotely right-wing now.

Gee I wonder why the temperature is so high and there is violence

right wing influencers trying to STIR SHIT, to get more views, as of recently thier influencing has weakened quite a bit due to trump/tariffs, and russian affiliations.

Politicians never let a good crisis go to waste. Violence begets violence, but I don't think now is the time to lie down and take it.

Really hard to win a civil war against the government though, would really be better to start one under a Dem.

Maybe Charlie be but the first in a series of dominos. The Luigi way is the only way.

Gene pool? Erm, excuse me...

...you aren't implying anything?

It's more of a gene puddle if we're honest...

It's a terrible idea to go this route. I'd say it is a cultural issue, and humans themselves are flawed.

In Australia I often hear stories of red state people marrying their cousins. How much of that would be true? Because that would certainly be detrimental to the gene pool.

Yes, but we aren't like them, we aren't nazis. All suffering on their side must be earned...

They are as insane as the lunatic that was put down.

I'm sure he was shot by one of them, a disgruntled MAGA, and they are happy because they really want to get civil war happening but don't want to be seen as starting it.

They are right. John Fettereman did it.

I hear it was Andrew Cuomo.

eric adams was also a co-conspirator

In other news, Russia declares war on Ukraine after being attacked

So, Not being sad for a shit stain's death is a "violence". But threatening violence is not?

So.. they’re going to continue doing exactly what they were doing before.

I predict they will, as always, fucking do nothing.

It always turns out to be a deranged MAGAT

They who's they?

Violent conservatives.

If only it were true. Civil war in America, I mean. It's long overdue.

Hopefully it'll make the rest of the world less dependent on the US dollar. Hopefully it'll show Europe what fascism will always, eventually lead to.

But I doubt there'll be a war. I'll keep my popcorn for another day.

Lawless Republicans doing what they do best.

We are seeing many of the "voices" that are attempting to capitalize on the violence. What we're not seeing are the "ears" - the ears that just saw their fearless leader is in fact a pedophile, who just sent troops to cities with no remarkable record of violence, etc.

I know these people don't mean what they say because they're saying them - tweeting them and vaguely implying others do it for them, minding their wording so they can't be sued or found liable later. The people that take action are the gullible hacks that buy into their narrative. The question now is how compelling that narrative still is.

Scary shit. They should aim those guns at child rapists. Also, release the Epstein files.

So, after finding out which political party the Robinson family supports, the stupid fuckers can go after each other.

Yeah, I wonder how many of these are Russian bots?

he needs a Harem of "breed-worthy women" first. cant have a harem of incels.

It's just a convenient excuse to level up in ways they already had planned.

How long until they figure out that leftists can fight too ?

The problem is that rightists are raised on a steady diet of “the radical left are violent and dangerous. They turn your kids gay! They cut off your kids genitals! They want to take everything you have and give it to brown people! They want whites to die!”

In their brainwashed ignorance, they actually think the left is already fighting.

Cry baby GOP openly gerrymanders and then says someone stole their election. They are the ones cheating. Gaslighting psychos.

I think everybody with an IQ bigger than a horse saw that coming, US is going to a civil war until the end of 2025

night of long knives, in a fascist dictatorship, they often cannabalize thier own first, and then start targeting "other groups"

Hopefully they'll continue to keep it amongst themselves & leave the school children out of it.

This is gonna be their JFK moment, only dumber, and worse.

There will be an attack of some degree today... 9/11.

MAGA attack

Years of lead all over again

@popjam
They are soo hungry for the war 😂
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If it was from the roof, then that's an amazing shot. Trained military of some country. Maybe Russian? Who knows, but no random citizen.

If it was from the roof, then that's an amazing shot.

200 yards is a fairly standard shot for any deer hunter and is not particularly difficult with modern tech. You don't need to have been a special forces sniper to take it anyone with even cursory experience could provided they had a decent rifle. Pretty much everyone I know who shoots (hundreds of people) could make that hit.

I would in fact suggest that it being a neck shot indicates the possibility they weren't actually a particularly great shot. A head shot is a much larger target, a neck shot is half the size, I would theorise that it was a headshot attempt that miscalculated the distance and the neck impact is the bullet drop over that distance (ie they aimed for a 100m impact point and it was actually 200m or whatever the correct distance was).

HOWEVER

Taking that shot and getting away indicates a level of professionalism / planning well above that of the average deer hunting Fudd.

I was actually thinking he got less drop than expected.

To your point, most things are pretty flat under a few hundred yards, but if they zeroed at an indoor range or something, hob can make those numbers weirder than you'd think.

Still though, center mass, and like you said in the wind. Which is pretty impressive.

But who the heck would site a rifle in at just 25 yards? It was in Utah, right? There'd be tons of places where you could shoot a rifle to 100 yards at least. Most of those indoor gun ranges that don't have anything over 25 yards don't allow rifles.

But who the heck would site a rifle in at just 25 yards?

Some people. Just like everything else, there's enough out there to have someone do it. I know people who swore by 25 yards because it's 'good enough' for the majority of times when you'd be using a rifle in a confrontation.

For anyone curious about the differences: https://thenewrifleman.com/best-ar15-zero-distances-for-16-inch-and-10-5-inch-carbines/

Interesting link, thanks for sharing it

Yeah, I was just saying my first thought, whistling in the dark. OP was sort of right on the money, I thought. I was just saying that my first thought was super similar. Probably says more about me than anyone else lol.

It sort of speaks to a good shooter at known distances, which made me think of urban ranges as I'm in an urban area.

Yeah I saw that on reddit but stayed away from it because what sane person zeroes a rifle they intend to use at 200m to 25m ?

Zero it for your expected range or an easy multiple to make holdover/adjustment clicks easy. It's not rocket science.

It just sounds like a massive reach, particularly when a number of experienced commenters were saying that's a 30cal sized entry hole not .223.

Taking that shot and *getting away* indicates a level of professionalism / planning well above that of the average deer hunting Fudd.

Keep in mind that the majority of cops are the average deer-hunting Fudd.

It’s incredible, never are police so incompetent as when they’re trying to stop/catch a shooter. Lmao

professionalism no, but utah colleges have tunnels

I guess knowing that would count as planning then hey ?

it's just kind of common knowledge in those towns though.