Coldplay fans boo as Chris Martin urges crowd to ‘send love’ to Charlie Kirk’s family
9mon 6d ago by lemmings.world/u/dude in news@lemmings.world from www.standard.co.uk
So Coldplay sucking isn't just a meme...
Yeah I always wondered why they got hate, I guess I know.
Their older stuff was good, but after a few albums the music just sounds like generic pop.
Also the type of people that listen to Cold Play are either not that into politics, or definitely aren't Charlie Kirk fans. That venn diagram is just two separate circles.
Curious how he doesn't send love to the families of children killed in the school shooting that very same day. What did they mean by that? Logically it can't be he's just sending out good feelings because of a tragic situation otherwise he would have mentioned the school shooting, so that means that Coldplay must specifically endorse Charlie Kirk and his rhetoric. That's The Logical conclusion I draw.
Kirk was a man full of hate. Why should I feel any obligation to send any love to him?
He was pro gun violence and anti empathy. It goes against everything he believed and stood for to send love. These jackasses pretending to care are just masturbating their own ego to make themselves come off as some paragon in divided times. Kirk died for what he believed in while doing what he loved. We should all be glad he did. Even those foolish enough to listen to him and support him should be able to see that.
he spread and fomented hate, on impressionable college age students, to recruit them into the right wing manospheres. which is why conservative groups are trying to elevating him as some kind of saint.
Spite?
The fact that someones feelings don't care about his facts also is kinda funny.
Nuance: Martin's request concerned Kirk's family, not Charlie himself. Let's not stray from the facts. The other side does that enough.
For all we know, they might be lovely people (unlikely, but hey.)
Still, weird request, and I would have joined the booing in the moment, I think.
Well, his wife said that the movement didn't stop with his death and that "if you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before you have no idea, you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world" so probably safe to say she's a horrible, minority-bashing white nationalist as well.
Still, no one mentions the families of the kids murdered, why is he special? Why is his family special? Him and his hateful wife who are probably brain washing those children.
Honestly, hearing his views, they both seem much better off without him. ESPECIALLY if either of them are queer.
oh my god, as someone who hated Coldplay with passion for a quarter century, I feel so vindicated. thank you.
Seriously, to think that for years I was wrong about why I hated fucking Coldplay. Only Coldplay could make me like Nickelback
Wow, let's not use this as an excuse to try normalizing Nickelback
ok just because we agree on Coldplay doesn't mean I'm gonna tolerate Nickelback apologia.
We can meet in the middle Saliva. Click click boom eh?
Wow, let's not use this as an excuse to try normalizing Nickelback
Both can be correct
As someone who resisted the internet “cool” thing to shit on this band, please allow me to be extremely disappointed by this article. Holy shit.
🤦😂
Seriously, to think that for years I was wrong about why I hated fucking Nickelback. Only Nickelback could make me like Saliva.
I can do this all day. I'm a baby bird, feed me.
I miss Never mind the Buzzcocks. Can someone reach out to Noel Fielding for a comment on this news?
All that goodwill(?) from the cheating CEO hilarity ruined by pandering to the cheer squad of some dickhead.
I advocate that we start calling anyone calling for sympathy for this shit bag woke. See how quick it flips their script suddenly doing woke things.
They’re already doing cancel culture so let em be woke now too, fuck it
I dunno I couldn't give less of a fuck about him but I do feel bad for his kids
In his own words, kids should witness public executions. He literally wanted his kids to see this. Do you really feel bad for the kids knowing that he would have just indoctrinated them too? I feel like they were liberated from a lifetime of abuse.
Hey i really dislike punishing kids something they can't control, for example having dipshits as parents or being poor. I would argue them not seeing a person get shot and not be indoctrinated is the best outcome.
Now, again, remember that their father would WANT them to watch someone get shot. It's not "either or". He's a dipshit father AND he wants to subject them to abuse like watching an execution.
You're basically just saying "yeah, it would be great if they had completely different parents". Sure, that's true. But they have the parents they have and one of those parents is a racist piece of shit who would work to make them racist pieces of shit. Someone who if they were raped would force them to carry the baby to term and raise it.
At least in this circumstance there's the possibility that when they get older and learn about WHY their dad was shot, they might see how terrible his positions were and not want to be like him. Instead of being raised by the man who would likely make them watch other people be killed and laugh about it.
Do I really need to remind you of his stance on Nancy Pelosi's husband? He was asking people to bail out the attacker because he was a true patriot.
Dude was a piece of shit and everyone who no longer gets influenced by him is better off, full stop. Nothing that happened to him is anything that he wouldn't have celebrated if it was "one of them".
Those kids are better off.
I am not disagreeing with you about them being better off without the dude. I just made the case for being in favor of the best possible result, yknow, where there is no punishment based on kinship. I don't see how anyone profits from adhering to any of kirks ideas.
Who is punishing the kids?
They're only part of the discourse because people who "feel bad for them" keep dragging them into it. The best thing anyone can do for them is to stop bringing them up. They're completely irrelevant the monstrous things that Charlie Kirk was doing.
Deciding that kids should be exposed to such violence is decidedly punishing them.
I agree they shouldn't be brought up, but they were.
So your gripe is with Charlie Kirk who wanted exactly that, not me. He wanted that exact world and died in that exact way BECAUSE OF HIS BELIEFS. He was the one punishing his kids, not us.
OF COURSE my gripe is with charlie kirk. My point is, i don't wish ill unto humams that haven't done anything noteworthy.
Edit: One of my MANY gripes with these fascist assholes is that they wish ill on a bunch of people that have done nothing to anyone (which is their whole thing, i know).
See, you're twisting my words. I never wished ill will on his children. I said they're better off and you keep trying to say I wanted his kids to suffer. Maybe learn some reading comprehension?
No, i don't. Do you think i am attacking you? I'm not. I was not looking for a fight here.
Writing is missing some nuances of talking in person, happens sometimes.
You keep going on and on about how I'm saying they deserved to see this, which I never said. I said they were better off, a nuance perfectly understood in text. You keep rallying against a position I never took.
Then this whole thread is about nothing. Neat. We are in agreement. I didn't intend to rail against anything you wrote. I do not think you did either.
Why? Cuz now their dad can't force them to have their rape baby like he went on record as wanting?
He said that if his daughters get raped he would make them give birth and take care of the rapists baby. They are absolutely better off without him.
Why? I'd be glad if my father died. Preferably before bringing me into this shithole
Sending love to his family? That sounds awfully like that New Age empathy shit, don't you know how much damage that causes?
Best I can do is sympathy, sending tots 'n pears.
People in the back. 
Fuck Coldplay.
Why are Coldplay concerts suddenly this relevant?
Their new album, HotTakes, is wild
Go on...
Looks like the corporate rock fans are mad that their band is a corporate rock band
It's like how Jack Black had to pretend to be mad at Kyle bc he's in so many big budget movies.
I hated how he reacted to that and people were defending him. Over a joke. Black has done some dirty shit, but supposedly got so upset over that joke he cancelled a tour. Fuck him too. #teamkyle
I assumed it was less that he was mad and more that he didn't want to get shot by some right-wing nut.
Actually the opposite. He's hoping to continue getting shot by right wing nuts. That's why he can't be controversial or they won't cast him.
If only, I am so tired of chubby carrot top.
And i think thats a good thing. You should be free to like whatever kind of music, even if its the worst garbage imaginable to my ears.
Does not mean you have to accept political shit-takes from the creators.
His death helped the world see who's far right. Very interesting
I've never liked Coldplay, the singer always came off as douchy.
And now we have empirical confirmation.
I guess you don’t get to choose family, but not sure how this was a high priority for Chris Martin given everything else going on at the moment.
Unless you adopt.
You comment spurred me to read more.
You comment spurred me to read more.
Sorry, are we linking propaganda?
On the face of it, I don't have an issue with saying this, as his family weren't the ones preaching hate. But choosing to single out this particular person's family rather than all the other recent shooting victims is a bad look.
Everyone grieves differently, but his wife literally turned around and used his corpse for Instagram content before he was even in the ground! Add it to the list of videos I wish I hadn’t watched this week
Plus that wonderful speech she gave about how her husbands death was a rallying cry to the right to take care of the libs, so, like fuck her too.
It's pretty much a given that anyone who would marry him must be an awful person.
Partially, but it's also related to the fascism our country is under now. Prominent non-government people who are on the government's "side" are treated as if they actually are part of the government, because the corruption means they essentially are.
You have to remember also he is not American, and Charlie wasn’t hugely known outside of the US, and his death has received massive coverage
eww, he's normally chill, what happened
He kept getting richer
He’s such a tool
Hell no, Tool is awesome (as a band, i'm not so sure on their views).
He should be knowing first before making such statements pertaining to peace and coexistence. Especially if the subject matter happens to be an extremely vile personage with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Wow, if I didn't have a reason to not like them before, I sure as hell do now.
Darn! I really liked a few of the songs that they played on the radio over and over and over until I liked them! Darn!
I feel for his kids, but if I met his wife I'd have one thing to say, <finger guns> "Single shot through the engine block!"
Whenever this happens I can't help feel like said public figure is literally just autopiloting sympathies. Like, 9 times out of 10, yes, that's the right thing to say but like, but c'mon.
I blame the fact that "liberal media" MSNBC is sympathetic to Kirk, and in the absence of critical thinking and, well, existence in online spaces, that's probably the go to response. Coldplay is mostly Gen X, ya? I've had to explain this situation to Gen Xers to not be surprised here.
As my gran used to say
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all.
That's all cold play had to do
My point isn't about what they should do, I think anyone who knows what Kirk was really about would agree with you. My point is there's so much misinformation when from "trusted" sources that I'm not surprised even Coldplay didn't get the memo.
all the current media, are conservative owned, there never was a liberal media in the first place.
Leave Gen X out of this, will you?
No offense since Gen X and Boomers on Lemmy are inherently cool for being on the fediverse, but my Gen X father and Gen X coworkers have literally no idea who Kirk was prior to his death.
Their media consumption is still very old school, on average, and TV media is making him out to be some kind of motivational speaker. It's quite maddening.
The amount of hatred here is disturbing.
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
You think this guy was an idiot? Just a dumb liberal?
Here's a couple more fools:
"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule." — The Buddha
"Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." -- Romans 12:21
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." -- Jimi Hendrix
"I shall allow no man to belittle my soul by making me hate him." — Booker T. Washington
Jeez, what a bunch of nazi-enabling jerks.
I think people will ask how the power of peace and love stopped Nazi Germany and protected the victims of the holocaust.
Empathy, solidarity, and love are important but let's not pretend that if we just love those who hate minorities hard enough, they'll stop doing it.
I think the important point is that love and violence are not in opposition. If I save someone by harming or killing their attacker, that is love. I don't have to hate their attacker to do what needs to be done to protect them.
If I save someone by harming or killing their attacker, that is love.
This idea can be employed to justify lots of things of varying morality. I don't think you can really mean it as a general principle.
Anything can be used by people of varying morality to justify anything, nothing anyone says can stop that. You're using your varying morality to protect Nazis right now.
It's addressing your assumption that the comments here are due to hatred.
Sure, but how does that apply to wishing good things to the family of a murdered podcast host? Is that really the point where to should make a stand?
Empathy, solidarity, and love are important but let’s not pretend that if we just love those who hate minorities hard enough, they’ll stop doing it.
I think it will work on some people.
Calling him a podcast host is downplaying everything else he was that harmed so many people, and will continue resulting in further harm even after his death.
You could argue there's less hate in the world now
Is there something strange happening in your instance? I've seen a few accounts from there commenting some weird right-wing things lately.
Like for instance? It's a free for all instance, so anyone can join.
"Like for instance?" What do you mean, sorry?
I'm aware anybody can join, but I've found instances tend to have stereotypes
I meant: what kind of weird right-wing things, can you give examples?
Oh! Sure, things like comparing Kirk to MLK and running obfuscation and defense for people who spread fascist rhetoric.
"True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice." ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
Charlie Kirk, had he been running a country, would literally be the next hitler. Do you regularly send your love to hitler every month because people regularly talk about what a disgusting human he was? These quotes maybe generally agreeable but there are exceptions that they don't apply to. Charlie Kirk was a man with a very large sphere of influence who worked very hard so that the world would be exact opposite of what is being described in these quotes. And he did make significant contributions to this. So even from that perspective I think you can be happy that his death has slowed down going in the other direction.
The white liberal must rid himself of the notion that there can be a tensionless transition from the old order of injustice to the new order of justice. Two things are clear to me, and I hope they are clear to white liberals. One is that the Negro cannot achieve emancipation through violent rebellion. The other is that the Negro cannot achieve emancipation by passively waiting for the white race voluntarily to grant it to him. The Negro has not gained a single right in America without persistent pressure and agitation. However lamentable it may seem, the Negro is now convinced that white America will never admit him to equal rights unless it is coerced into doing it.
Nonviolent coercion always brings tension to the surface. This tension, however, must not be seen as destructive. There is a kind of tension that is both healthy and necessary for growth. Society needs nonviolent gadflies to bring its tensions into the open and force its citizens to confront the ugliness of their prejudices and the tragedy of their racism.
It is important for the liberal to see that the oppressed person who agitates for his rights is not the creator of tension. He merely brings out the hidden tension that is already alive.
~ Martin Luther King Jr., Where Do We Go from Here: Chaos or Community?
White folks love quoting Martin Luther
'Cause he held hands and prayed when they bombed his building
Good for him, but the times have changed
And don't forget, white folks still killed him
-- Bob Vylan.
Yeah man just like we loved the literal Nazis of WW2 so much they surrendered without any bloodshed.
Oh wait it took countless lives to beat them. Hatred for sure was a thing on all sides. Disgusting but effective. And i am sorry for the soldiers who often had no say about being thrown into a meat grinder of hate. I still think the foreclosure of the concentration camps was one the most important achievements of mankind.
Like i get the message but i really would love to hear how Donald and his flock of Xenophobes can be changed by love.
Jeez, what a bunch of nazi-enabling jerks.
Why so much hate? Didn't you learn to love your jerky neighbours? 😘