It's a great day to delete your X account(s)
5mon 4d ago by europe.pub/u/Europellinore in buyeuropean@feddit.uk from europe.pub
Also, don’t leave your account unused, delete it. User and follower numbers count.
And least as important, reply (if necessary to another corporate mail address) every email with Twitter/X in the footer, with a kind request to stop promoting and facilitating X.
Run by a literal Nazi
In case someone thinks "Oh, he's just an alt-right troll, he doesn't actually believe in that stuff", meet Elon's grandfather:
He became involved in Canadian politics, backing the technocracy movement, before moving to South Africa in 1950. Over the course of decades, Haldeman repeatedly expressed racist, antisemitic, and antidemocratic views.[1] In South Africa he was a supporter of apartheid and promoted a number of conspiracy theories.
He also supported Technocracy, Inc and the Technate of America https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
This in turn would necessitate the abandonment of democracy and the embrace of a technocracy—government by an unelected, technically skilled, empirically-driven elite with the expertise necessary to determine values and make rational resource-allocation decisions
Sounds a lot like one of Elon's beliefs, doesn't it?
Strange how people who think this way never assume they'll be one of the people on the outside, letting others make the important decisions. Whenever there's an elite, they imagine they'll be part of that elite.
It's a good day as any to move to Mastodon.
That's true, but Bluesky is also 100 times better than X and probably a more feasible/realistic alternative for all kinds of companies/sports clubs/government agencies/etc. Although I prefer Mastodon in principle, I am quite sceptical about the chance that it will be seen (by the general public) as such a good alternative to X that they will actually consider themselfs being able to leave X.
The problem with Bluesky is that it's essentially centralized, with all the related drawbacks.
And its funding is pretty suspect.
Even if you trust the current leadership team, there's no reason to believe they'll remain in charge.
Bluesky will turn to shit, just give it time.
Repeating mistakes, taking years to drop a platform owned by a nazi to just run into the next US platform ready to be bought by some other billionaire Nazi.. nothing was learnt, was it?
No, Mastodon. Bluesky is repeating the same mistakes
For those of us with the knowledge, it's our responsibility to both sell the idea of Mastodon and help onboard people. On top of that, there's many guides, at this point, about how to get involved, choose an instance, set up your feeds, etc.
It's true that Bluesky is a much more seamless experience, because many options are hardcoded or pre-chosen for people, but if we can get people over the hump of making those choices for themselves, they'll find it a much better place long term. Also, it's strongly resistant to the antics of bad actors, so it's a much better choice for governments and other groups. Bluesky does not enjoy the same natural defenses.
The problem with Bluesky is that it has exactly the same kind of legal structure (for-profit company) with the same kind of objective (make lots of money for founders and early investors) as Twitter, thus is just as likely to be bought by a Nazi billionaire.
If you're leaving X because it turned into a Nazi bar after being bought by a Nazi, going to Bluesky is just setting yourself up for being in a similar situation again in a couple of years.
Who? A lot of people apparently. And basically all companies. And more or less all government institutions in all countries in the world.
Since few weeks I’m replying to all mails with X in the footer (newsletters as well as email signature of corporate mails) to tell them it would be great if they stop promoting this crappy outlet. Concise, polite and motivated.
From roughly half of them I didn’t get a reply yet. From the other half, a MAJORITY reacts positive. We all should know, the MAIN reason most organizations are still there, is because someone decided so in 2010 (!). They never thought about it afterward, because their audience / customer ‘never asks for that’.
Be. That. Customer / Reader. Who. DOES. Ask. For. That.
That's a very good idea. I'll also ask them to get off Facebook as well.
I wouldn’t. Not because I don’t think it’s a good idea, but I want to let them see that specifically X became a disgusting fascist deepfake childporn abyss. Adding fb as well, increases the risk they don’t quit any of them, because it might give them the illusion my message says more about me ‘being anti social media’ rather than about X in particular.
I see your point. I'm not certain that I agree with you, but I understand what you're saying.
You're basically asking them to give up on a promotion avenue and hence a revenue source in favor of morals. Corporations will never do this unless leaving X somehow financially outweighs staying there.
Right so we all start asking. All the time. Loudly.
Financially, or when their customers require so, or when damaging to their image. At least the latter two are quite influenceable.
If nobody was doing it, it would be a strange thing to pay money to put in an advertising space.
It is a strange thing to put money into it, considering not even csam is enough to make at least eu institutions to go away from x.
Seems like musk can do anything he wants. What's worse than this?
I'd argue putting it into people's field of view could sway an individual, and if one person can be moved, more could follow.
That side already proved that boycotting works, in their disgust of a trans-indivual advertising beer, and certain groups being mortally offended that folk could suggest BDS actions towards Israel.
A lot of these institutions are slow but done are moving. UK greens for example
The best moment to delete your Twitter account was ten years ago. The second best is now.
I deleted mine the day after Musk took it over, which is somewhere in the middle I think lol
"Moment" has multiple meanings, but one meaning is a synonym of a literal second.
Every moment, then, is the (Now.InSeconds() - BestMoment.InSeconds()).ToString() + "th" best time to delete your Twitter account.
"Won't somebody think of the children?!" "Wait, no! Not like that!"
The lack of account deletions just shows how much child abuse means to them.
And hanging out with Nazis, and...
Personally at this point I'm looking at it even more generally: anybody whose Morality is such that they're OK with the mass murdering of children in Gaza by Zionist for the "crime" of being Palestinian (the list of just babies 1 year old or younger killed by the Israelis just in the first 3 months of the Genocide is 17 pages long) isn't going to Morally be above "merelly" using little children for sexual pleasure or more broadly the use of violence to force other human beings to do what you want that's the core of Fascist thinking, especially the Nazi kind.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that somebody who justifies and supports any one form of extreme Evil is going to at the very least be uncaring in the face of other forms of extreme Evil.
Well yeah, this isn't about just sexualising a specific group of people without concent, its the fact that X is fundamentally an acid bath that corrodes everyone that touches it. Nobody is safe in this case as everyone is impacted - no matter the age or gender.
My point is that the same mindset that's relaxed about and even excuses some practices that harm some people is also relaxed about and excuse the same and other practices that harm other people.
Be me: never had account, never saw why would one want to have it
You don't like screaming your opinion out into the void?
Like
I declare bankruptcy!
I signed up years ago when quite a few TV programs I watched would make announcements on Twitter, like when new series were starting and that type of thing. I also liked the idea of following certain institutions and celebs to keep up with their announcements. I was quite disappointed when I noticed a lot of info passing me by - I had encountered the algorithm.
I hadn't logged in for years, and thought I had deleted my account, until just now when I tried it and found it still active. So, I just deactivated it and in 30 days it will be gone for good.
Already did. Years ago.
Never had one, because it always sucked.
Idk why not using hell sites is so hard for people.
Never had one.
Samezies
If you haven't already quit then a whole lot of people have already made a whole lot of assumptions about your character.
And those people are morons so why should I care
Anyone saying that still being on X means you’re a nazi is a lunatic and should not be allowed in a debate
Maybe the world could stop doing any business at all with this apartheid Nazi welfare queen? He’s trying to destroy your countries with Nazism and grift your tax dollars while selling out your privacy too
Why dont companies and governments switch to Mastodon instead?
They should return to RSS feeds
That's basically what AT protocol (Bluesky) is
I think they want a bigger reach than both of us when they put out public statements.
Honestly they should get off all social media and just post announcements on their own websites not subject to billionaire influence & not having to deal with trolls.
Mastodon is great for certain things, but not great as a broadcast medium. A European AT Protocol implementation is a better solution https://www.eurosky.social/
I forgot if I still had an account. Yep but haven't used it since covid probably. Deactivated it just now, guess it will delete in 30days.
Did it once that loser bought the platform. I use Bluesky.
@CircaV @Europellinore Personally, I'm using Mastodon over BlueSky and I wonder why it has not got the same attention as bluesky :
- It's decentralized and you can host your own, to help with data safety
- This also prevents it from turnuing into another twitter since if that happens, you can just host an old version or fork the code and continue updating it
- It's compatible with activitypub, so you can post and reply on Lemmy from a Mastodon account, like this one!
But yeah, it's pretty annoying to switch from one platform to another since your followers are not likely to do the same. Maybe that's why?
I tried mastodon. I guess I didn’t try hard enough. I will revisit.
got banned before that shitshow. thankfully. only lasted a few months. Rs are so fragile.
I Canada we still have "left" parties publishing on X. I wrote to them I wont be voting for a party that use a platform run by and for nazis. Just for fun, I actually ask a LLM if using X was indirectly supporting the white supremacists and it agreed that it was lol. Someone should ask Grok.
What if we start referring to 𝕏 as "that child porn site" in a mainly neutral tone? Would that normalize it? I'd hope it would make people look inwards, but idk if 𝕏philes in 2026 have that capacity.
𝕏
Those techbros actually have an unicode character?
I will now proceed to facepalm myself in a corner.
What's X? Did you mean Twitter?
it's X, Twitter already died years ago, we need to stop pretending it was still the same as back then.
You've obviously missed the joke.
It's funny to call it Twitter because Elongated Muskrat went on a huge tirade of "it's not Twitter! It's X!"
Then we should call it the CP and nazi social media
Why not both? Both is good. Anything but what he wants it to be called.
I tend towards calling it simply "the hellsite" most times
that works too, my point is it's better to associate it as a worse platform now rather than let people still cope that it is what it was to incentivize them to leave it for good.
If your user name is closely tied to your online identity, I am hesitant to delete if they recycle the usernames and some total nut job takes your old handle and people think you've gone off the deep end - just a thought.
Understandable, especially when there might be a lot of links to the profile around the internet. However, in that particular case it’s still possible to delete all content, contacts / follows, followers, and profile images and descriptions etcetera, make the profile private, and give it some semi-permanent dead existence, or delete if a year later or so.
This is definitely an aspect of social media in general. An argument can be made to register your profile and let it lie dormant just to avoid it being hijacked. Hijacking has been an issue in BlueSky during the Twitter migration bursts. Sure - the companies can use the registration for statistics, and the decision to register is somewhere between performance and personal integrity.
Deleted my twitter account a decade ago when I commented on a Canada Proud twitter post that resulted in months of non-stop harassment. It's always been this, they've just been turning up the heat year on year, and now people realize it's boiling.
not me looking to my left and seeing my dad using it 😭
You could tell him that X isn’t cool anymore. That Bsky (or mastodon) is the new Twitter, but without the 90% trolls and without the advertisements every other 3 posts
Hadn't used my account in years. But deleted it now. It seems unlikely that the old Twitter will ever return.
I think I made an account years ago (before it was acquired), never used it, and proceeded to forget the login details 🤦♀️ I don't even think I still have access to the email address that I used.
I'm not sure how to delete that one :(
I am in a similar situation, I still use that email, but resetting the password requires more attention than I am willing to give them.
Yeah, especially since I'd literally have to download the app in order to delete the account, even if I was able to recover it...
is that a new requirement? i deleted mine from the website when elon started heiling
I don't know, I haven't tried that cause I don't know my password anyway
What X account? Or Bluesky for that matter...
Granted, if you have a sizable following there, you could try to get them to make Mastodon/Bluesky/... accounts to follow you off the platform first.
Of course, you should have done that years ago, but better late than never.
But if you have less than ... idk, 100 to 1000 followers? You should just switch.
Much better Mastodon than Bluesky.
True, but both are much better than Twitter at the moment.
I think you know the answer...
Lots of positive replies until now, roughly 30% (further 20% ‘well internally discuss’, 10% ‘no because trolls are our primary target group’, 40% no reply yet.)
I never had one, but I can see one single reason to keep it: Help pull over people to Fediverse.
The US president would want to use such a social media platform...and he does so very frequently.
If I understand correct, it’s payed by donations, see accompanied link.
X, instagram, FAcebook and, of course, Reddit.
It is very silly question. Pedophiles would.
Laughing in xcancel and opting for mastodon
after years of timeouts and fbjail, facebook ai permabanned me and no idea why. Guess i wasn't seeing enough ads. all blocked for years, haha. ai bots posting slop for other ai bots to click on. fool and his money. delete everything then make them permaban you. twitter banned me years ago. never missed that mess
I tried Twitter back in the day (when it was still Twitter) and deleted it after a few days. I haven't really seen a reason to go back and I absolutely don't see one now.
I personally wouldn't mind seeing grok temporarily banned until it's verified that they have their shit AI image creation tool under control. I also hope that the result of this bull isn't going to be that X is permabanned in large parts of the world since that would mean further monopolizing social media to Zuckerberg alone. Any shred of competition has to be better than a total monopoly.
Yeah see that's cool, everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that anything that normalizes the sexualization of children should be shamed and shunned.
Ok so your position is just based on semantics then, because someone used the term "built in child abuse tool" instead of "built in child pornography generator"? Is that really a leg you wanna stand on?
So you really were arguing that Twitter providing a built-in child porn generator isn't a valid reason to leave it?
Ok let's start over. Ignore the context in the previous comments, pretend I'm asking you this for the first time, with no lead up:
Do you think it's reasonable to leave Twitter because they provide a tool that can be used to generate child porn?
What the fuck?
Fictional child pornography is still child pornography. This is not just about abuse.
Twitter having a tool to create child pornography is an excellent of reason to quit Twitter.
That said, drawing a sexualized image of a fictional child is not child abuse, even if a machine does it. It lack the whole, you know, child being abused part that is kinda central to child abuse.
I get that, but the underlying detail is that for the "AI" to generate that, it most likely already saw it to begin with. Right-wing AI trained on child-porn, weird, i know, but it's this timeline.
Plus if users are prompting for that... perhaps as a platform you don't want those users.
What was it trained on, though?
Even if what it produces is "not technically child abuse", it was trained on how to make pretend child abuse, emulating what it has already seen. It uses previous child abuse as a guide to make stuff. It may also mix and match the real child abuse to make pretend child abuse. There might be real abused children in those images.
That's bad, right?
Okay then, pedo John, thanks for the info
I prefer open-source social media, but X is quite good at providing the most up-to-date news.
Might be true in some cases, but up to date news becomes pretty useless when covered under a large amount of fake news.
my home feed is absolute trash, it's mostly AI slop survey pics run by elon dickrider bot accounts. many of these accounts use grok to make elon look hot. i'm trying to start replying to different people so my home feed is slightly less garbage.
i know y'all are like "why the fuck are you it then". i don't know, lmaooo
As long as you’re still there, you can still provide a useful contribution by continuously replying the photo and link as attached in first message, to all companies, sports clubs, govt officials that still stay there. They’ll say you’re a hypocrite, but better a good hypocrite than congruent garbage 😉
Lest be honnest 30 second. Nothing is equivalent to twitter at the time. While i love the fediverse it doesnt have the massive userbase that make it great. It s really funny that you tried to frame it as a social media with built in child abuse tool. Pretty sure child dont have the right to create an account on it and it doesnt have the same effect as instagram has on child. Also totally agree thta making his dumb bot with this capability was stupid but let s be honest, in every way you can do that on any other platform, and i feel it learned at least some numeric hygiene to some ppl.
So in summation, Nazi outlets are popular, so meh. And allowing the creation of AI child porn is simply "stupid".
im pretty sure you'r free to go there and start posting comunist propaganda so idk why make you qualify it as nazy outlet. And the bot having the capability to modify picture, on what social network can't i dl the picture and do the same ? From what i saw gemini also did it
Allowing Nazi ideology and having a CEO that publicly gave a clear Nazi salute twice would be two indications. In fact no other evidence could overcome either of those two things.
Also no one here is saying social media isn't cancer, particularly corporate social media with ai bullshit.
Did you forget that you're writing this on a platform where most people are anti-corporate, leftist, linux-using ai-haters?
... You tried to say you're arguing with a hypocrite who doesn't care about ai tools being abused on other platforms but that's an intentional lie and I just demonstrated it. Some vague bullshit about "dishonesty" makes you look worse, not better.
So don't mistake this for me thinking you're here in good faith at all. You're not. You're intentionally spreading lies.
But it's okay that you aren't fluent in English as long as you don't insist on spreading toxic lies in broken English. But you are doing that. So fucking stop it. Unless it's also part of the act, you cannot even express a coherent thought. A typo or missing word in every sentence. I'm not playing "guess what the Nazi means".
That twitter is not a nazi platform and it's foolish to judge them also for creating a tool that can create disgusting illegal porn.
pretty sure if it was nazi u wouldnt have comunist idea there.
This makes no sense whatsoever.
From what i saw gemini also did it.
Citation?
I understand that some LLM's have this capability.
I thought you were comparing two similar things, like Gemini was integrated with another social media platform somewhere providing the same, easily accessible, integrated means of creating these kinds of images.
Seems that it's just vague whattaboutism on your part.
Sure, but the context isn't about the ability, its about the accessibility (ease of doing the thing) and the tacit endorsement of the act.
Saying "yeah but {X} can also do that" isn't really relevant here.
Where how and when ?
I said the context was about that, rather than what other tools could be used to do the same thing.
I never claimed a position on whether that has or has not occurred.
Im pretty sure the issue was incompetence rather than malice. But if you have something that proove malice i would love to see it
I have not stated a position on that, so I have nothing to defend or prove.
Though I will say that tacit endorsement in this case doesn't. require malice, just inaction.
Claims of action don't count until proven.
I agree with you that there is currently nothing equivalent to Twitter. Especially in terms of the number of Russian and other foreign government trolls, the glorification of fascist efforts, and the number of inactive accounts.
Also agree that fediverse currently lacks the massive user base to be the best alternative at this moment.
Twitter was awesome 10 years ago. Current Bluesky is pretty much the twitter before it became an uncool fascist troll shithole, and it does have quite a user base. Hence, for now it’s the best alternative imho. Presumably not until eternity, but for now it is.
While i love the fediverse it doesnt have the massive userbase that make it great.
That's the whole point, it's not meant to be for celebrities wanting to have a massive user base (and yet).
Neither is this reddit btw.
You link doesnt work.
True, it was supposed to be a link to George Takei's mastodon profile: georgetakei@universeodon.com. There are other celebrities also, as well as politicians, journalists, organizations, etc.
The rest of your answer is justifying quantity over quality (i know which one i prefer) and being in the wrong platform to begin with.
"It doesn't have the massive userbase" It would if more people started using it instead of the Xcrement site.