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Digg launches its new Reddit rival to the public

5mon 3d ago by lemmy.world/u/Veedem in technology from techcrunch.com

Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.

The only Reddit alt I need is Lemmy.

Anything that takes users away from Reddit, and forces Reddit to compete, is a plus for me.

Being owned by venture capitalists is pretty much an assurance that they'll turn it to shit as much as they can get away with. The entire reason people abandoned digg for reddit in the first place was because it was selling out to ad space and shill accounts and manipulation. The venture capitalists will want big returns on their investments.

Competition is good. Also the less data Reddit has, the slower A.I. models can be trained.

reddit is partially being propped up by google. most of thier AI comes from google, and thier moderation, BOT DETECTION,,,etc.

That’s a fair point. Reddit has been openly hostile to its own users these past several years. It might help moderate that to have another alternative on the table, even if it too is a soulless corporate enterprise.

it got worst within the last year. they ban new users and old inactive accounts extremely fast. of course you can say its due to bots using same methods, this hasnt stopped bots in any case at all. its just targetting lowest hanging fruits.

This is quite toxic attitude. You should focus on what's good for you - not what's bad for someone else.

Eh, what's bad for capitalists is what's good for the rest of us

I don't agree. We're not talking about a person or a charity. We're talking about a VC-backed company. They can fuck off and die, and it's not toxic – it's just common sense.

But two corporate entities competing are better than one secure in it's market share. Anyone with any sense would reject both for a fediverse option if it could be made to work well enough obviously but still.

Only marginally... maybe. Duopolies are still really shitty for consumers and that's the best outcome to this. Significantly better would be if more people would realise what made internet amazing in the beginning and that logical consequences from that are that public spaces in the internet where the content comes from the people should be owned by the people.

But competition IS good for me.

If people start migrating to better experience and better communities, they’re going to have to step up to stop the bleeding.

Reddit can get away with making terrible user experiences and killing 3rd party solutions because no alternative has lured enough of their base away.

Monopolies are bad for everyone except their CEO and stockholders.

Silly question. Is Reddit still banning comments that say Lemmy?

I don't have an account.

Dunny. I've mentioned it a few times. I don't think they're still removing them but I bet they are still suppressing them

I heard that was highly community-dependent - the more high-profile a community the more likely for it to be removed.

Idk, but now that you mention iy, I got a 2nd violation, for threatening violence that did not do so or even come close, to the point I think it was ad hoc in bad faith, to say for other reasons. I did mention lemmy not long before.

If they are advertising on Digg may work.

I'd like to see this place just a bit better

I have a link to my Lemmy profile on my Reddit profile and not even shadowbanned 🤷

they dont care about links as much as if you commented with the links in your posts. and also if your account is old and active enough they are less likely to "ban you"

Idk, I think there are also legitimate arguments for piefed !

We can have both, thats allowed :)

(That was the point of my comment 😊)

What's piefed? I looked at it and mostly saw lemmy instances.

It's an alternative to Lemmy with some different features. Since it uses the same protocol under the hood, its instances federate with Lemmy. There's more info on the differences here.

It's like Lemmy, but it has more features because the devs aren't tankies and they actually do work instead of just denying genocides all day

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real ICE vehicles are unmarked

Are there any plans to improve Piefed's RSS feeds? I primarily browse through Thunderbird, and Lemmy's feeds are a lot more content-rich

Sounds like a good question for rimu@piefed.social

Haven't tried piefed so I can't say.

Such as?

This is just off the top of my head.

Grouping comments of the same posts posted on different comms for one.

Keyword filtering to fade or outright block.

Idk if filtering is in Lemmy, but grouping comments definitely isn't.

I love the grouped comments. I scroll through the comments on once instance, then I reach the next one and you can genuinely see the shift in priorities between communities. It's pretty cool

Doesn't piefed have that controversial hardcoded blocklist? I've heard that meme communities and similar are filtered out using hardcoded keywords matched aganst community name.

Why hardcode this??? Imposing your preferences on everyone seems like a bad idea.

Piefed and Lemmy are basically the same thing on different websites

They're all in the same network

I could go for a text only version of this

That's what Usenet was.

yeah it was pretty good I was there

I miss it. SLRN and proper score file made it the best information tool on the internet back in the day.

That would be nice. It can probably be done by blocking images at the browser level. Wouldn't be the same as a text only site though.

lemmy certainly scratches the doomer/black pill/commie itch in everyone

I'm starting to agree. Was a bit quiet and every other post oddly seemed to be about Linux when I first signed up, but now I really like it. I've decided to stay.

I felt this place was a ghost town when I first started - maybe 10 posts a day. Now, there is plenty to read. Partly due to me finding more communities and overall more people here.

This is a rerun, and the fediverse is better

Reddit was the Digg replacement.

oh how the turn tables

EDIT: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

This

How to get PTSD flashbacks in an instant.

Reddit existed long before Digg died, and was so much better before the Digg refugees streamed in.

"Hi! We've just noticed there are 2 other members of d/footfettish next to you, go say hi!"

Low key win for kink communities.

You are absolutely right about that. Passively detecting your location? Fuck that. We are getting into an era where bots are overwhelming and user verification is a valid topic to discuss. I think additional device permissions can be one element in that discussion. But this idea he popped off the dome is a miserable example of such.

Yeah… no. None of that sounds appealing.

‘Curbing toxicity with AI’ means a bot is going to ban you because it doesn’t recognise sarcasm.

And ‘new tech to verify your identity’ sounds like a privacy violation at best.

‘Verifying that you own a product before they let you post in its community’ is a complete lack of understanding of how people use places like this.

Digg can fuck right off.

While AI obviously is not perfect and is flawed in many ways, having AI sift through the torrent of comments and then flag problematic submissions for human review is likely going to be extremely effective with minimal false positives. Though I do say this as a person whose Reddit account is currently banned for 3 days for "inciting violence" because of a knife-based joke.

I got banned from reddit last week for "threatening violence" basically because my comment contained the word "die." It wasn't a verb.

Reddit is super aggressive with this shit now. If you say "Don't drink bleach, that would kill you." Their AI bullshit just sees "kill you" and bans you for threats.

Site is fucking useless, don't even bother at this point. It's mostly robots talking to other robots at this point anyway.

Meh. I got banned just for saying something about stabbing Donald Trump in the neck and watching him bleed out before alerting the staff of the Urgent Care I was waiting all day in. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Ai flagging for human review is likely the best option.

The problem is that the humans reviewing things are biased, assholes with no sense of humor.

Ah I see someone else suffering the same shit as myself. Inciting violence for comparatives is what happened to me. No, neither side should celebrate violence. Human life is invaluable.

I have been permanently banned from Reddit for wishing for a natural disease process to occur in a certain individual. If only I were that powerful of a manifestor our world would be a better place.

"I run faster with a knife!!"

Yeah, the verifying that you own a product thing is so dumb.

"Hey <insert product> community. I'm thinking about purchasing <insert product>, but I wanted to know if it can do X, Y, and Z."

"your post has been deleted because you have not proven that you own <insert product>."

Wow, it's like they made Reddit even worse.

“Hi I wasn’t paid six dollars on Fiverr to post here” (does increase costs obviously but marginally for high-margin/volume products)

Your comment would be autoremoved for the last line lol

We left Digg for Reddit about 20 years ago because of enshitification, the same way we left Reddit for the Fediverse recently, there is no way I am going back to Digg!

No but this time will be different I'm sure!! I'm sure they've learned their lessons from their past mistakes. Trust me on this... I'm a dolphin

Mistakes may happen, but I'm sure they won't do any evil shit on porpoise.

I specifically remember the exodus from DIGG as the start of reddit sucking.

When was that? Based on life events I've reconstructed this timeline of my hangout sites

  • late 1990s to mid 2000s was slahdot
  • around 2006ish digg came into my life and was great for a some years. At least for memes and generic dopamining on funny pictures. I think I hung around until about 2014 or so, while spicing it up with cracked.com
  • 2014ish 9GAG started having more of my type of content. After a few years 9GAG became just automated reposts of r/funny, and talking about that got you censored. Kinda like what reddit is doing now.
  • 2017ish I switched to reddit, when 9GAG just became too embarrassingly bad.
  • july 21st 2023 I started trying to figure out lemmy. BTW u/spez is a pedophile piss baby.

Maybe I was just trailing behind you others. Was I the one to ruin your experience? Why would you accuse me of that you insensitive clod? Anyway, in that case I'll go eat crayons in the corner and shitpost on .ml

Interesting, I had my 9GAG phase around 2011-12. Never really used Digg, just saw the front page a couple times, then started dabbling in Reddit in 2015, then Lemmy in 2023 with the blackout protests. (I almost said those achieved nothing, but I think that's probably when most current Lemmy users joined, so 🤷)

Sorry

-A Slashdot to Digg to Lemmy refugee

Same here 😂

What, Digg was before Reddit? Thought Reddit was the OG forum of the global internet.

Before Reddit and everything was forum sites. I use many of them today.

Digg based the voting off of a simplified version of Slashdot's. Except they let everyone vote. Reddit then took that concept and added user generated categories and user moderating.

Before Digg was Kuro5hin and Slashdot

I AM learning something New every day! Thanks!

even their tagline the frontpage of the internet is digg's and they took it back

They’re betting that AI can help to address some of the messiness and toxicity of today’s social media landscape. At the same time, social platforms will need a new set of tools to ensure they’re not taken over by AI bots posing as people.

"We're banking on AI as a competitive advantage but also, here's why it's bad" is quite a business strategy

They will populate the basic sites with bots to garner some "content" just like Reddit did in its early days

Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn't?

What then does it say about the actual value of this company and others like it?

If you want a hypercurated/focused reddit experience just join metafilter.

https://www.metafilter.com/

Somehow I don't get the feeling the owners of Digg are going to be happy with the level of income Metafilter brings in to its owners however....

“We kind of opted for … let’s just keep building this plane as we fly it,” explained Digg CEO Justin Mezzell. “That means that it’s going to be very lightweight, and we’re just going to be aggressively shipping every week and just giving them new features as we go,” he added.

camera slowly pans and zooms out to the Fediverse where mint condition airplanes can be seen everywhere with the word FREE on them

The warm and cozy feel of a VC-funded social network.

Normies can't seem to help but flock to corporate websites only.

Maybe it's because people drive them away from other spaces by doing things like calling them weird pseudo-slurs like "Normies", instead of engaging with them as valid human beings with different lives, experiences and interests who don't always want exactly what we want.

Yeah we are not using slurs enough. Other platforms are openly racist and therefore have better user engagement coz it's "funny" being openly racist.

Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn't?

To us? Nothing. To others? A single place to browse and sign up.

and maybe a place that takes more of reddits traffic

I can live with that.

Ngl. Will digg it.

Conceptually what does this offer that the fediverse/threadiverse/lemmy/piefed doesn't?

Brand name; the simplicity of just going to a site and register instead of choosing an instance; algorithmic creation most likely.

All the AI features are a real plus /s

Well, actual users and niche communities that get more than 3 responses max might be one thing it offers.

I really wanted to like it, but it's already a right-wing cesspit. 🤷‍♂️ Maaaaaybe it'll improve, now that it's public, but I don't have high hopes.

I know this place is just the opposite kind of echo chamber, but when the other option is being beaten over the head with transphobia and Maga shit, ehh, I'll take it.

Reality has a liberal bias.

Lemmy has a communist bias.

Classic Liberal, yes.

The reality that people manage to share with others, perhaps. I think peoples' inner worlds, internal feelings and emotions have likely shown changing trends of comprehension/awareness throughout our histories and likely through all of time. The nature of consciousness is far from deciphered, so it makes sense (to me) to interpret your reference to reality as the one that we all share, talk about, and know about thusfar (this is how I understood your definition of the term, when upvoting your sentimental statement)

Your actions are real.
Your thoughts are all in your head.

If actions depend on our thoughts, and we are capable of thinking about our actions... Where did I "begin" (the sequence of steps which must have occured in order for you to have existed in your present form and current context), and where will I "end" (cease to have any record of ever having existed)

If actions depend on our thoughts

They don't

Where did I “begin” ... where will I “end”

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather." - Bill Hicks

Oh OK, thanks for clearing that up for me. I didn't get the knews about that guy on acid, but that is good to know. I guess learning philosophy for fun was a stupid fucking idea in retrospect, but at least god is dead now, so I don't need to stress to much about my own feelings on the matter much anymore, considering that its all just illusions upon illusions. I'm more about the vibes these days anyway, as we all might eventually say.

Says you

Say who?

Quick, "you" turn

When decision

I you word

Forgive me, reasonable

I've read this six times and still have no idea what you're trying to say

Language sux, make new ones (words, I guess, is the unit of measure or base unit here, since I think creating whole new languages from scratch without accidentally just mapping out an old language you already know well onto a new linguistic [phonetic?] structure would be difficult for groups of people to do, especially if they all had some shared language that they knew and that most of their ideas that they have learned were taught to them in that language, while they were all trying to creatively conceive of a new language to use amongst each other, even if they set out with an intention to try to not copy or carry over much or any of the previous languages rules, structures, patterns, etc. ). all I really did was try to explain why I was reluctant to upvote based on the necessarily ambiguous definitions of two of the key words in the initial comment. "Reality" was the one I chose to reflect upon and rant about, rather than "liberal", because I think the attitude of trying to anthropomorphize a concept that none of us knows a perfect definition for, and there will likely be ongoing scientific and philosophical debate on the concept for centuries yet to come, is even more poetically dubious than claiming that all of existence somehow conforms to ones own personal expectation and not recognizing the dangers associated with various biases which might inform our current disposition towards concepts or issues which we have come to recently develop or consider within our working framework of understanding upon which we each may be standing for ourselves in order to maintain such an extracurricular style of dialogue. 

Maybe put away the thesaurus.

I just realize this may be read as more of a mental health tip in this context/ in response to my love hate relationship for extra unnecessary over the top vocabulary, rather than as a personal attack or critique of the whole argument/perspective. Maybe it is time to set the ol thesaurus down for a while, practice learning body language or spirit speak for a while in the stead of the dialogues. 

rather than as a personal attack or critique of the whole argument/perspective

I don't even know what your argument or perspective is. Verbosity is not a virtue.

practice learning body language or spirit speak for a while in the stead of the dialogues

If that's the only alternative please stick with the word salads. It's easier to ignore someone who talks too much than someone who assumes they know what someone else is thinking because they blinked wrong.

You're like a completely different person. I'm so proud of you

If you attempt to slow down enough to touch grass, then try to tell a story describing that grass to someone who has never seen a living plant before, you might become frustrated at how little people care about grass when they don't know anything about plants yet

Try to let it go and practice radical acceptance. What else has the slightest chance of you finding happiness? Do with this message whatever you will.

Can I get that word salad with the dressing on the side?

Word salad is what ‘generative’ ai does best.

People always talk about word salad like its a bad thing. Salad is good. Words must be the shitty part they are referencing, ig, idk. I see no way that two good things combined together could become a bad thing, but I always liked words so I don't ever know what the haters are talking about

Oh look, another centralized social media site owned by tech bros!

But currently its quite cool!1!

You mean the digg everyone ditched for reddit when they went insane? That digg?
I think some people don't even realize that digg used to be way more popular than that very basic reddit thingy nobody used.

Digg was started before reddit and I think reddit took the upvote idea and went with it. When digg switch to the new layout and then to the news only crap everyone went to reddit like I hope everyone will to the fedeverse. I use to watch the Screensavers and was there when Kevin Rose came on.

I loved the Screensavers! Those were good times, Call for Help, the Screensavers, TechTV News. It was a very transitional time between Cable TV and the Internet becoming connected in everyones homes. Probably very influential on me career-wise and I'm glad to have experienced it.

IMO it's inevitable now that they've made it harder for users to customize their experience (API debacle). The site will have to change over time, and it will gradually piss people off. Eventually old.reddit will no longer be worth the cost to maintain.

No, they built a completely new product.

still the same company though. why trust them not to fuck it up like they did before?

It's also not the same company. More than a few years have passed, and even though Kevin Rose is involved, you can assume a few lessons were learned.

So in any case they'll fuck it up in an entirely new way. Or, maybe, they won't.

Kevin Rose also left Digg at some point, not sure how much of that demise is on him. He had to buy it back for this second run.

He left after the collapse. He was very involved in the redesign, I remember listening to him talking about it on the TWIT podcast.

Ooohhh a venture capitalist social media platform! I wonder how and in how many overly creative and putrid ways that site will try and fuck me over, inside and out.

Yeah, hells no

Wasn't a lot of their tomfoolery why people relocated to Reddit to begin with?

Yes, people despised the changes they'd made and reddit was a breath of fresh air at the time.

It's the same as here, and Reddit. All these sites are the same.

Yeah, I really hate how the Lemmy corporation abuse their users. Yesterday they released the new Lemmy subscription, Lemmy Plus, which removes their gazillion ads and their other shenanigans. Crazy stuff. Using the official Lemmy client is also pretty annoying, I miss using Lemmy third party apps. Overall I really wish there was an alternative free and open-source platform to escape to. Would be cool if it was also federated so no one is truly in control of it

It's more a reference to the same type of posts, the same users, the same comments. Hell most people here can't even use lemmy terminology. Most here still use Reddit speak.

What is reddit speak?

Really, how many people came here with no relationship to reddit? Why does this place even exist in the first place? It takes quite a bit of time for a culture to evolve. The reddit mannerisms were always going to be a given.

Lemmy has VC funding?

I actually think the lack of funding means Lemmy doesnt have the same incentives to enshitify itself.

Lemmy did have some funding for anyone curious but the good kind.

Edit: It is ongoing and tied to feature milestones.

We left Digg for Reddit, then they enshitified Reddit so we went to the fediverse and now they want to bring Digg back. The turd just circles the toilet bowl endlessly.

Bc people keep putting money into it, thereby incentivizing the continuation of the never-ending cycle...

Someone will have to let me know because I’m not wasting my time there. I’m going to keep wasting my time here. It’s a fantastic waste of time

They are going to use Ai to moderate, lol... That will be fun to watch.

They already do on Reddit.. 

i wonder if it could be tricked into banning wrong people

It won’t get a chance; I'm not making an account.

Not banning good people, banning wrong people.

I'm a little half and half on it. A lot of people like myself are fed up with the obsessive way AI is pushed into everything, but I can see it having uses.

For instance, sifting through 20,000 "This user didn't accept my argument evidence" reports to find some that have merit; that can be worthwhile, even if all it does is alert a human to take a look and make a full judgment. Besides, the bar for quality moderators on sites like Reddit is low.

Let’s also remember that AI has many different meanings. It depends on what technology they’re using. AI is just literally a type of computer program that can be used for a variety of things.

How low are we talking?

I’m not really qualified to answer, we might need a deep-sublayer geologist.

I dug Digg once upon a time. When they tried to undermine the power users, I found Reddit. Then Reddit enshittified. Now I got Lemmy. It's where I want to be. No company behind it, milking the users.

Yep, I'm ready to read the news that this platform surpassed the user base of Lemmy on the first day and never looked back. And I am ready to not be bothered by it.

Good on them for any pain they inflict on reddit. And I do hope the fediverse takes over the global media landscape because that is better for humanity than corpo-governmental gatekeepers. But if Lemmy's user base just hangs around in the tens of thousands rather than the tens of millions, I am content.

I disagree about being content with a small user base, I want more niche communities beyond News/Politics, Linux/FOSS, and memes.

I have mixed feelings.

On one hand, agreed wanting more variety in communities.

OTOH, Lemmy already has too much fucking politics. I don't want whatever's infecting reddit to become even MORE prevalent here. shudder

Sorry for being off topic (from the article), but I have a little community of translators on lemmy.ca if you're interested in niche communities.

Be the change you want to see in the world

Pre-digg immigration OG reddit user here. The enshittification of reddit started when digg users joined en masse and flooded the site with advice animal memes and f7u13 macros.

My timeline was

Fark>Slashdot>Digg>Reddit>Lemmy

I don’t allow loops.

I will never return to walled garden internet. You burned all your good will by being greedy and horrible.

Walled gardens go against the spirit of the Internet, anyway.

This is like the 3rd time digg is trying to exist.

4th, really: Popular Digg, the version that drove people to Reddit (which they labeled as v4), whatever it languished as after that and before now where I think users could only comment, and the new site that just went live.

Fuck all of these silicon valley parasites.

Even before they maximize revenue and as a result enshitify the site, the government and monied interests will have or be able to get their hooks in them, to influence moderation, visibility, allowing influence ops now going nuclear with government connected ones utilizing the cutting edge chat bots, along with agents and bots. Some half of all interactions are fake as such now they think.

We need to make federated social media a thing. Like this, but better instances making it more usable to get tje critical mass of users.

Again? This is like the 8th time they have announced this in the last 10 years.

I was gonna say this is at least Digg 3.0.

Wasn't Digg 2.0 what "created" Reddit (or at least gave it critical mass) (along with the child porn obviously)

Digg v4 actually

As far as I recall, that's how it went.

Fediverse ftw

Look at that, Digg-ing up the corpse of a horse just to beat it more.

I was interested for like 15-20 seconds until I realized I have this place now and I actually don't give an exploding flying fuck

I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.

Lots of venture capital money behind it.

It already began.

What's the point of this when Fediverse is technologically superior?

Superior technology does not necessarily mean a superior product. History has plenty of examples where the inferior technology won out because the majority of people don't care about having the best or most advanced technology, they want the easiest, cheapest and (most importantly) lowest effort.

To be clear, I don't think digg is a superior product either, I'm just saying that how good the tech is matters far less than people want to believe. What truly matters is the implementation.

Very rarely is superior tech remotely a factor in how good a product is or how well it's received.

I think all of these platfroms live from the engagement of the users there. I like Lemmy, but I'm also still on Reddit, because in some communities, there's just so much more activity on Reddit than in the same community here.

Technology, UI and everything is fine and important. But if the place seems rather dead it will also struggle to attract new users.

This, I follow a single Reddit sub on RSS because it just doesn't exist on Lemmy 🤷 And in general, communities for many niche topics or smaller countries are nonexistent. But the conversations are much better here, so I hang out more on Lemmy nowadays :)

Meh, it's still corpo space.

I see they’re making a play for that sweet “I liked this before it went public and got enshittified so I’m gonna switch to this other one that hasn’t gone public and gotten enshittified yet and hope it gets popular enough that it goes public and gets enshittified” cash.

Yes, the "yet" is doing all the work here. Along with a heft dose of "Digg was great" for those of its who used it and, well, the inevitable enshittification that all PE-led startups follow. And Rose has proven he's no exception.

A bit like Bluesky, where the USP is "just like Xitter, but without Elmo at the helm". The days are numbered, etc.

It already sucks, I did the beta and it started to suck then. Now I cannot login because their login method sucks. I am done. I am happy on Lemmy.

Everyone should go post the HD DVD key.

I made it my avi photo

It started out enshittified, ai automod will take down your posts/comments for anything inappropriate like saying shit or fuck. No what the fucks on digg. They may have fixed it temporarily since ppl were complaining.

Idk, the moment they swapped the shovel and tombstone for basic triangle upvote/downvotes I knew it was going to be corporate slop for the general public.

It started enshittified

It's a venture capital company, what else could you expect

Isn't one of the guys behind reddit also behind bringing this back? It seems like another way to corner the market. I'd still join for a week to see if it could be my thing, though

This has all the markings of more VC AI garbage. Hopefully it does pull some users away from Reddit just to break up the centralization a little bit more, but overall I don't see what the appeal is supposed to be.

I'll stick with the fediverse.

It's gonna be enshittified from the get go. Reddit grew organically then enshittifed over time. Creating a new platform backed by VC in this day and age is guaranteed to be immediately bad.

Clicked around...looks like every corpo site out there. Im not sure what this gives other than yet another place to talk about very general subjects.

I just dont see the appeal to be honest. At least with the fedi, we can chose what our joinable communities look like. This just looks like yet another "app". With a never ending feed...

image

All these sites look like children’s toys

I left Digg 15 years ago. I'm surprised it's still around.

I've only heard about it since in this way, some quick announcement about the "new Digg". And, then, nothing.

Reddit banned me for saying "see a Nazi, punch a Nazi." There's no way I'm going to bother with Digg, that's the past, and I have no doubt they'd sooner than later be the same as Reddit in that regard.

It wasn't. It became something else, now they're re-pivoting it back, but with more AI trash.

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

Wow, I can't wait to never use that and forget all about it.

Sooo, Digg started to monetize, Manipulate the feeds for money, allowing Reddit to swoop in and steal their lunch. Doubled down as the platform emptied, now 15 years later, they say Trust me, Bro?

I got about a quarter way through the article before realizing that I don’t care in the slightest.

Is it federated?

Digg.com didn't load for me, good start 😅

That’s because you went to Lemmy.world/digg.com 😏

OP has done something weird with the comment because for me the link comes to lemmy.dbzer0.com/digg.com - both of you have LW home instances so the URL is incorrectly being parsed as an instance link?

I think it loads a community named digg(dot)com on your local instance

Edit: could be a Voyager (mis)feature?

Edit 2: Jerboa doesn't even react when clicking that link

The raw comment is this:

[Digg.com](digg.com) didn't load for me, good start 😅

It's missing the https:// protocol, so the link is assumed to be relative to the current page you're on. It should have been formatted as

[Digg.com](https://digg.com/) and then it'll look like: Digg.com

You guys were right. I’m on Voyager!

Looks like this is a feature for most markdown parsers. In piefed, the same thing happens. I wrote most of the customizations for parsing markdown, but nothing to create relative links like this except for footnotes. So, it must be the default behavior of the markdown library we are using.

Try this link: digg.com

You'll get over it

e: You guys are some old Farkers

I keep getting a 502 bad gateway. Even Lemmy is more stable than this.

Figured I'd sign up to preserve my username just in case, but it doesn't work without an app. Oh well.

These sites are supposed to be gateways to the internet. Why the fuck would you put that in any app other than a browser?

i'm talking out of my ass right now but I assume they will get better revenue using an app to show ads and collect info

it doesn’t work without an app.

You can't use it in a browser? Does that mean that you can't use it on a PC?

I just made an account to see and it seems to be working on a desktop for me.

Sorry, I meant mobile browser. I don't use a PC.

I use mobile browser in "desktop mode" for stuff like this.

Tried that. During the last step it switches back to mobile mode and gives a 404 error.

The article said the public beta opens on Wednesday.

You can sign up for an account now on browser. You can only log in with an email. They send you a confirmation code to your email that you have to put in, in order to log in. Once you do this, you can create your username (which is tied to an email). This is probably to stop people from using throwaway accounts to log in.

So far I like Lemmy more but I'll scope it out to see what happens next.

I tried switching to desktop mode on my phone and it switched back to mobile during the last step and gave me a 404 error. I don't use a PC.

So oh well.

Digg dug its own grave.

I can hear this image.

Ahh that brings back memories. First video game I ever played. :)

Bots don't have a choice.

I was gonna give it a chance back when they were letting people reserve their usernames. When the site first went live (in beta, I guess?) they wanted me to pay them money to gain access. Enshittification is baked into the platform.

Bring back Geocities next.

geocities and angelfire.

god i miss the early internet.

I highly doubt anyone on the fediverse will migrate from here to there. Perhaps Digg wants Redditors to switch over to them? I don't really understand who this is for.

Digg is coming back?

Whats next?

Fark?

Rotten. com?

Fark never went away. I still browse daily.

it still exists? wow.

Yeah, me too. Never made an account, but the headlines still give me a chuckle.

rotten will make a comeback if any of those "save the children" bills get passed.

Sounds like an unholy wedding of AI and privacy nightmare to me.

I don't know man, but Lemmy and the Fediverse seems to be a more mature ecosystem than that. Digg just looks like a stripped-down version of Reddit with no specific feature 

Unfortunatly niche communities are still dead on lemmy. I may have to use digg

Where they are... even more dead?

You expect niche communities to be lively in one day on digg? The reddit outrage is 2 years old still lemmy lack lively niche country

You just proclaimed you're leaving Lemmy because it's too dead, for a place with even fewer users. They pointed out the ridiculous reasoning behind your proclamation. It wasn't a judgement on Digg, but on you

Learn to read i will use both and i specifically talkez about niche communities. You seems too mad for an non trivial opinion, calm down.

Not mad at all. Pointing out your outbursts are unwarranted.

As for learning to read, What you said

Unfortunatly niche communities are still dead on lemmy. [Implied: therefore] I may have to use digg

Which logically does not follow given it's brand new and even more dead than Lemmy

Logically since custom communities are completely new I will give it a chance and if there is no lively niche after few months I can simply stop contributing. I am logical, you aren't. You just mad that I will give a chance to a centralized social media

Again, not mad. I'm not the first person your spoke to. Just pointing out your inability to communicate properly

You are mad, just admit it. My English may not be that good since it is my third language, but it is still understandable. It is funny how remarks about communication and language are only mentioned when people disagree with me.

Me checking it out: types d i g g . c o m enter

Digg: Something went wrong! Show errror

Me: clicks show error box nothing

Welp so much for that

However, the rise of AI has presented an opportunity to rebuild Digg, Rose and Ohanian believe, leading them to acquire Digg last March through a leveraged buyout by True Ventures, Ohanian’s firm Seven Seven Six, Rose and Ohanian themselves, and the venture firm S32. The company has not disclosed its funding.

May as well get the shovel already.

What they really need to do is put it on a blockchain.

NFTs, bitcoin, trumpcoin or bust.

Digg still exists?!

The eternal half life of suckage.

Interesting, but nah. They launched it before for influencers to join, and I'm not sure how many did. I haven't heard much about it. It sounds like it's gonna be very corporate run. I have no idea what the political climate will be, but there's a lot of big money behind it, so that's not great. I got kicked off Reddit for saying child abusers should be punished more harshly, which says way more about Reddit than it does about me. I don't trust Digg to be any better.

They launched it before for influencers to join, and I’m not sure how many did.

The return of MrBabyMan

Shouldn’t this be in nottheonion?

We're being asked to trust the same guy who somehow managed to enshittify his original site even faster than reddit.... lol

It could also do other things, like require that people who join a product-focused community verify they actually own or use the product being discussed there.

As an example, a community for Oura ring owners could verify that everyone who posts has proven they own one of the smart rings.

You've got to be fucking kidding me

It's Digg, don't bother with them.

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The company that enshittified itself to the point where all it's users left is back and already well down the enshittification road again? Okay. I guess I know that now.

If I ever find myself there I'll just digg my way back to Lemmy

Considering that Alexis Ohanian is involved, it looks like he wants another bite at the apple, so it'll likely go downhill pretty quickly.

"We are good to users, there is absolutely not a 2nd step here that we've done before"

Who? I thought they were dead

I’ll pass

Is it me or is the site dead. Posts are from December?

Trust me, bro, this time'lo be different, this VC-funded social network isn't going to enshittify, AI is going to fight bots, just give me all your data bro

I was interested but based on this I’ll think I’ll give it a pass.

I want less AI in my life, not more

I likely won't be using it, but I can appreciate any Reddit alternatives.

Doesn't look good. People are creating communities about the popular communities on reddit just to look good but do not post anything on them

I looked at it for 5 seconds. The UI looked pretty hideous. Even new reddit looks better than it.

Digg tried to unseat reddit decades ago. Didn't fly then, likely not gonna fly now

Digg used to be what reddit wanted to be. Then they really fucked it up with a redesign.

Would instances federate if Digg would implement the Lemmy protocol?

Why does sorting by trending only show posts from December 10th?

I actually kept going to Digg for a long, long time after it became essentially useless. I guess it was just part of my daily website routine.

As soon as I found out about the ownership change and what they were doing I said "so long" and have no intention of ever going there.

Is mrbabyman back?