What a joke, can't believe people still voluntarily use this OS
4mon 27d ago by sh.itjust.works/u/grandma in programmer_humor@programming.dev from sh.itjust.works
And of course that error code just means "there was an issue with the store" WOW THANKS SO MUCH DETAIL TO GO OFF OF
Technically the numerical code still gives you a precise search key to find other people discussing the same issue.
... You know, as would be useful for a serious operating system where online support doesn't mean trawling the bowels of Reddit praying somebody's had the same issue and found a reproducible solution.
Hello I'm a 12 year Microsoft MVP and Certified independent advisor here to help.
Please type "CMD" into the start menu then type "ckdsk /f /r"
If this solved your issue please click on "Accept as solution"!
Unrealistic. Every repair on Windows starts with DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth followed by sfc /scannow
...wait. no... That's the correct way. The MS MVP in the forum always mix it up and tell you to run them in reverse...
Fyi do not run that if you used MAS :-)
what will happen?
I think it removes some needed files and screws up your activation or something like that
Why would you use anything else.
Because Linux exists :p
I know, but people are still not comfortable switching to it, but it's getting more traction because Windows 11 is getting worse and worse, not that it was great before, this is just the shittiest version of it and people are finally realising Linux is a good alternative.
My experience when I switched about a year ago was to wonder why I had put it off for so long because from day 1, it was more comfortable to use.
Ans this is despite me using a DE I'd never used before (cinnamon) and ended up not really liking and getting "pushed" to another one (KDE) like windows pushed me to another OS (and even that was another "why didn't I do this sooner?").
So a DE that was bad enough that I was happy to find a better alternative was still such a better experience than windows that I didn't miss any of the comfort of familiarity at all from the start.
And the longest part of the process was a) fighting windows to write the install iso properly (iirc it wanted to add the stupid windows meta folder files or something like that, causing the iso to fail the hash check, and I have a feeling that that side effect might be a reason they do it that way), and b) reading up on the various options in case I wanted something other than the default or common options (I didn't but it was good to learn).
The one time I used that official forum I did my due diligence and laid out what I ended up doing to solve my problem as well as responding to the other person with a similar one. I am not DenverCoder9.
"Solved it, I will DM you the solution."
This is the only part I despise of forum culture like MDL or the likes.
If you have a solution, or even better: if you have written software or a guide for this, please just publish it online.
What I hate is when I find a solution for some old post but it's locked because "you should just make a new question" well FUCK YOU BECAUSE SEARCH ENGINES GO THERE AND I HAVE THE ANSWER AND I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE! BUT FUCK ME I GUESS đ
It feels like a bunch of moderation decisions are made by people just trying to satisfy some arbitrary OCD-like requirements. Like "you can't reply to an old conversation" or "you can't talk about a problem someone has already talked about". That stuff is worse than the people who reply useless shit like RTFM (aka "I go to helo forums not to provide help but to gloat about the things I know that you don't and act like every single comment is addressed to me personally and needs my input") because at least those useless comments don't kill the rest of the conversation.
Yeah, a lot of upholding the letter of the law instead of the spirit of the law as well as following rules without really critically evaluating why they're rules in the first place. (Example: Answering an old thread should be fine, but folks just view it as bad and lock them.)
Closed. Duplicate of 20990449
I have copied down and manually typed out numbers like that many times when using windows. I'm not sure it ever once helped me in the slightest.
Tends to be as helpful as those windows saying "We are looking for a solution to your problem online"
Haha yes those dialogs never helped me either.
I think the windows connection help wizard might have actually fixed a connection issue I had once. Out of more chances than I probably should have given it, considering how often it did dick all, despite my phone's connection being fine.
I think there's a rare race condition or something in the windows network stack because I've had four different machines suddenly lose the ability to connect to working networks, where sometimes toggling airplane mode would fix it, sometimes even that wouldn't do anything and it needed a restart. It happened more often with wireless connections, but I've seen it affect wired ones, too.
Windows net stack sucks so hard.
It's infuriating that you can't just copy the text in those sometimes
"Question: I am getting error with code 0xblahblahblah. How to fix?"
"Deleted response"
Reply 1: "Youre a life saver mate, thank you."
Reply 2: "I would kiss you if you were here"
Reply 3: "Absolute legend, this fix is so obvious, thank you for pointing it out!"
The problem is that "the same issue" here means "there's any error at all with the MS Store". Any discussion about there will be useless.
That key is probably the same for all store issues
Except the code covers SUCH a vague issue that it's useless. Not very precise when any issue with the store gives you the same code. Maybe it couldn't find a DNS record for the online store. Maybe its local db is corrupt. Maybe it's been locked out administratively. Doesn't matter which root cause, same error code, so it's not a "precise" error code.
These may not be the case in this instance, but in many, many other instances, it sure has been
And if you look up tech support on this, it's all unrelated nonsense tips. Even in the official sources it doesn't go much beyond turn it off/on, reset the settings, reinstall the app or reinstall the OS. While this might "solve" stuff, it doesn't fix the core issue and the issue might re-occur without a fix. Why go through all the trouble of wiping and reinstalling, if there is often a very focused and simple fix that truly solves the issue. But Microsoft has started making it harder for users to have ownership over their systems for years now. Keep your users dumb, then you can control them.
For what it's worth, only one of my two systems is experiencing this issue.
The one with the issue is running windows 11, and the working system is running Linux.
Priceless.
LMAO the next action taken after that comment:
microsoft locked and limited conversation to collaborators
Marked as offtopic as well xD
Oh my god that is hillarious
What a joke
Its a work device so I'm signed in like a good little corporate peon, still they manage to fuck it up.
Then your IT has blocked use of the terminal and store for your account.
Which makes sense for regular users to reduce the chance of fuck-ups and rise of a shadow IT.
This isn't a Microsoft issue (except for the slightly unspecific error message).
Its possible the IT admin misconfigured, but blocking the terminal or the store would not make sense at this company since most employees need them on a daily basis.
Update: most definitely a microsoft issue https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/19764
Never! Couldnât possibly be M$âs fault! Itâs definitely somehow your IT department!
I mean, it is.
They should have used Linux.
/s
Beautiful bug report
Expected Behaviour:
It would be pretty nice, if the terminal would open
That's definitely an issue with your IT department. My work Windows laptop came with the terminal accessible.
I mean I was able to open the terminal just fine a few hours ago
Maybe they've updated their security policies? Could be to prevent users from installing unapproved software via winget, etc.
I have definitely never done that myself, if anyone asks ...
It's a MS issue, not isolated
God where do you people even come from? Coming out of the woodwork to free-associate about some incompetence of an imagined IT department when Microsoft fucks up this OS every other day and when Teams and Sheets Web and Windows 11 is the way it is.
Yea and Usain Bolt can run real fast and you can't
You got problems buddy
That's an assumption
I'm a Windows sysadmin, this is the exact explanation. The only other thing, and this is going way out on a limb, is that terminal was installed through the Windows Store and something related is busted. I've never even heard of a company utilizing the Store for installations.
Others have already provided links to the GitHub issue detailing this bug and a Microsift employee confirming this indeed seems to be a micrsoft error although another team than the terminal one as it also affects multiple other programs such as the screengrab tool and notepad.
One of those comments can be found here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/23913723
Not really. Today at work that error appeared to me. As a software developer of course I have access to terminal, I use it every day.
I just closed the message and opened the terminal again, and it worked.
This is Microsoft's fault, not any other's.
What do you get when your search "terminal"? My home rig defaults to PowerShell, but I likely changed something years ago.
The terminal
In a previous company, they roled out their update every few months. Every time, it closed all the ports we need to actually work. Make ticket, wait until IT got around to it, tell people no connection means no work. Those were the days to update documentation.
Could be part of an ISMS framework for ISO 27001, too. Just went through the latest round of audits at my workplace, with SOC 2 and ISO 27001 being the most recent. Think I aged 15 years this time around.
God where do you people even come from? Coming out of the woodwork to free-associate about some incompetence of an imagined IT department when Microsoft fucks up this OS every other day and when Teams and Sheets Web (or whatever the M$ version of Google Sheets is called) and Windows 11 is the way it is.
You see, the problem is, that you try to open the Terminal on Windows Home or Pro. Personal use doesn't include advanced features like Terminal access. Please upgrade to a Windows Enterprise License to continue to be able to use the Terminal.
Alternatively you may try using Copilot to run commands and change system settings in a text based environment.
^/s^
At this point I'm not even sure this truly is sarcasm
Finally, a use for my backups based on FreeFileSync
wipes entire drive
installs linux mint
Now where the fuck did I put that nice start menu icon creation GUI app...
"Get help with this"
The real joke.
I had a similar error with a different application. Clicking "Get help with this" just opened the Documents folder in Explorer.
Did it help?
I'd guess the dialog was written by an AI that was never told to go implement the help function, but I know that the automated help or button to find help online rarely worked before AIs were capable of doing much of anything with code. Though odds are the broken non-AI help buttons were replaced with broken AI help buttons that were trained using the original broken code.
It's always a link to a microsoft support page that lists one question some guy had three years ago with 5000 "I also have this problem" checkmarks and a single answer from an unpaid MS mod that basically tells you to restart your computer and then marks the question answered and permanently closed.
99% of people just use their OS as a browser frontend. They don't care about freedom, privacy, security, etc. They will just use whatever OS comes pre-installed. Thats why Linux's greatest success on the desktop/laptop market as been ChromeOS. Not because it's any better than Pop_OS!, Debian, etc. It's literally just that ChromeOS comes preinstalled.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Still, I've had so many "last straw" moments with Windows that would make me consider Linux even if I was not familiar with it at all. It baffles me that there are relatively few people who give it a shot.
I suppose a lot of people just don't want to or don't have time to learn something new.
I've hit my last straw moment today trying to remove the setting forcing my password to change on a laptop that I fucking own. Windows 11 has disabled pretty much all user management features of local accounts now unless you're signed into Microsoft and link your accounts.
Fucking bullshit.
I just need a spare weekend or two to make the swap now and throw wine on it for the games I play that refuse to run on Linux.
I just need a spare weekend or two to make the swap now and throw wine on it for the games I play that refuse to run on Linux.
if your primary storefront is via steam, you likely won't even need to manage wine, steam will do that for you as part of the install process. You can use something like protonup or something to get GE editions of proton but, honestly it mostly works right off the gate.
Just be aware that proton can have conflicts if you try to use it on NTFS drives, you'll need to manually specify UID and GID for the drive (via fstab or however you manage mounting drives) or you'll get permission errors that won't actually say what they are unless you ran steam via the terminal.
Unfortunately the games I'd need wine for don't run through steam and have their own launchers âšď¸
But good to know for my steam library at least.
Try Lutris or Heroic Launcher as those two wrap around Wine (and everything else needed to run Windows games in Linux, such as DXVK) and manage the whole process for you, with only a few games which might need tweaking the config to run (and the fraction of games like that is no worse there than it is in Steam).
I use both Steam and Lutris and in my experience Steam is not at all a good launcher for anything other than games from the Steam store, mainly because it is less configurable and because it doesn't directly expose the tools you need to use to fix those few games that won't just run and limits the launch options you can tweak, whilst Lutris follows the Unofficial Open Source Credo of pretty much making it possible to configure everything (though Lutris specifically defaults to the best configuration for each game, but it definitelly gives you more than enough rope to hang yourself with)
Steam is very popular because of the Steam Store market dominance so tons of people swear by it (never having used anything else), but it's not actually the greatest option for anything but steam games and even for those, sometimes it's worse that getting the same game from GoG and using Lutris or Heroic, mainly because the DRM in the non-GoG version of some games interferes with running them in Linux.
I want to add onto this that if you're choosing between Lutris and Heroic, you should probably go heroic. I personally use Lutris myself, Mostly because I prefer the UI design of it. However, heroic does have a faster update cycle, while having built in support of Amazon gaming, epic games(including experimental cloud support) and gog, and doesn't have the bugs that Lutris has. Especially when it comes to trying to run GE layers through it.
Trying to get those first party storefronts to work on Lutris is, for lack of better words, a pain in the ass. I'm only still using it out of pure stubbornness because, like I said, I much prefer the overall layout.
I was going to say the opposite, Lutris is much more powerful and it's not an electron app so that would be my recommendation
There's a high probability that it will work if you simply run the launcher through steam. Honestly it's impressive what you can throw at it and it just works (TM).
Only thing to look out for is the installation path when you run installers that way, with all the virtual filesystems and stuff. Haven't encountered a single game that didn't run since the switch, be it pirated, gog or steam
Good to know, thanks. I'll give it a try as soon as I have some downtime đ
Don't use Wine directly, just use launcher UIs, such as Steam for Steam store games and Heroic Launcher or Lutris for games not from the Steam store.
You do need Wine installed, but if you use launchers you don't actually need to figure Wine out or manage it to install and run the vast majority of games unless you're doing unusual stuff like running pirated games.
Much appreciated! This helps give me more confidence to move to Linux :) :)
I picked up a separate SSD to install linux on so I can dual boot for the moment if needed, and then eventually recover my windows drive and turn it into extra storage for my linux drive.
No need to figure out WINE. Steam will figure it out for you. Just click the Play button.
Linux today is VERY different from Linux 10 years ago. The switch won't take a whole weekend like it did for me when I first tried Linux many years ago. Just install something like Linux Mint (the most user friendly and stable Linux distro) and the set up will be as easy as something like windows or macos. You never have to touch the terminal if you don't want to.
It's true that most people just want instant on functionality with no need for major changes beyond colors and backgrounds. Totally fine too, for many that's all they need. But as a "power user", which would mean anyone that needs more than a portable browser, I was very disappointed to find that's all that ChromeOS is (twas a used one in the family). And then when I researched putting actual Linux on it so it could do more... good god they locked that shit down hard. Not even worth that rabbit hole. And that was the intent of Google.
Most chromebooks can be put into a dev mode(which requires factory reset...) in order to install a new OS on it. I have done it a few times.
being said, with how low power they are, they can't really do much but what chromeos can do.
The early ones were easier. The one I had needed to do some mess with a grounding screw and some other stuff that I forgot (there are websites dedicated to the procedure guidelines and which requires what), and like you say, it's not going to be able to do much anyway. Such a contrast with throwing Kubuntu on an old MacBook, and 10 minutes later it was better than new.
there are some gems though that are more capable. some are worth installing linux onto
So the power user uses Linux.
The casual user uses ChromeOS (shitty Linux). Or preferably something like Pop_OS!, but I'm being unrealistic with this.
I see no problem here. You could replace pretty much everyone's pre-installed OS with ChromeOS or Linux (or macOS I guess if they like MacBooks) and I don't think most people would mind.
I have only ever seen someone use windows because they HAD to, not because they want to. Either they game, they use a software only on windows, it came pre-installed on their laptop and they don't know or can't bother to learn how to flash an ISO on a USB stick, etc.
I am completely fine with, and in fact am grateful for, the enshitification of windows 11. It will push more and more people to Linux. The enshitification of windows 8 is what made Steam shift from windows to SteamOS. I'm sure future enshitification will do just that: make people question why they are using windows in the first place.
When my ex's grandparents needed a new computer I got them a chrome OS all in 1.
When I started dating her in 2013 her parents were paying for AOL like $25 a month. They also had cable Internet. Saved them like $1500 on paying for AOL because they thought they needed to pay to access the email.
Unfortunately, very true.
There have been some reports that choosing to Repair the Terminal application has restored it to working order.
... Or, you know, dont hook that shit so tight into your store that it breaks if the store is offline or something gets messed up? I have personally never seen applications randomly stop working on Linux (Unless i did something stupid, i once fucked up glibc for all flatpaks system-wide on Fedora), specially now that im on NixOS, its just not possible for a program's files to get corrupted on NixOS since the store is read-only (Of course if it doesnt gracefully handle config errors and the config gets corrupted then it will break, but often times it would just be deleting the file and letting it create a new one, not reinstalling the application).
i was about to suggest using winget to reinstall it but then i realized that would require a functional terminal to accomplish, something i had taken for granted
Surely the underlying cmd cli is still there even if the Terminal app wrapper is broken
It is, as is the native powershell terminal, thankfully.
I was gonna suggest "just launch cmd directly", but then remembered that this usualy just launches Terminal if it's installed.
That's when you open PowerShell ISE.
windows terminal preview is standalone on their github. when i had windows thats how i installed it
yeah, back when I was maining windows, I went through a lot of trouble to install non-store versions.
Of course, some places lock down their employees too much for them to do that
We can't even use Windows store. We have a bespoke portal that has a very small list of approved programs to install.
Yup, I know just where that happens. It's probably a joy to work in your IT. They probably have a keyboard macro for "no"
It sucks. But I'm pretty sure there's some kind of bug going on in win 11 right now. I was even getting that earlier today when trying to open snipping tool after it was already open. I think they just borked some store check code somewhere.
I think they just borked some store check code somewhere.
The fact that this is even possible just demonstrates how broken Windows is fundamentally.
Itâs probably all the vibe coding they do internally nowadays
Microsoft: âLetâs fire our QA teams. Weâll force our dev team to use AI in coding. Then weâll have the public test it.â
Also Microsoft:
At this point it seems like the bug is Windows 11 itself.
Snipping tool has been fscked for some time now. Crashes all the time, freezes. My Linux box is so much more reliable
The Microsoft Store is impressively bad. So many random errors that don't give any helpful information that are impossible to fix.
Installed Vivaldi and Brave from the MS Store on work laptop from the official pages. Got a Trojan in each that IT had to remove. Yeah no
Couldn't install iTunes because my clock was wrong. That certainly wasn't the ERROR I was presented with, but was ultimately the root cause.
That, coincidentally, was the very same evening that I decided to and did uninstall windows on that machine.
Itâs probably because TLS uses your system clock to validate certificates. If your clock doesnât match the server youâre connecting to, TLS fails and you get an âhttps failed/connection is insecureâ error. And Windows likely uses https in the store to ensure MITM attacks canât replace valid downloads with malicious ones.
I understand the mechanism, and why it is important.
I don't understand why the error message from the store was nothing more than an error code, and why the MSKB for that code had absolutely no mention of a failed ssl negotiation as a possible cause.
Time->TLS errors aren't handled well anywhere.
As critical as they are to 2fa and TLS, you'd think every OS out there would poke around a few time servers and scream bloody murder if the time was off.
Honestly, I think we, as a society, have leaned a little too hard into time as a precise critical failure point. It's fine for things like GPS that actually require it. but our clocks don't need to be precisely the same to tell how recent a request and response are and we can certainly make better hashing algos
wget will give you a sniff of what the problem is. Microsoft Store will not.
I don't NEED an application to necessarily pinpoint the error. Just even a rough direction. Any browser will explicitly tell you if there is a cert issue. That's more than enough to go on.
I have no idea who thought it would be a good idea to give an error code to a user in Hexadecimal form, with no other information.
An error occurred: 0x 80070003
is hardly helpful at all.
Oddly enough, giving the general public exact error messages ends up costing you in support and reputation.
They obscure the messages because the inexperienced masses start digging up red herrings. Knowledge to someone with zero experience causes a lot of confusion.
The experienced and capable users look up the codes and think about it for a minute, check their vpn, maybe a health dashboard, maybe reboot.
Just about every complex machine out there give error codes instad of real messages, even when they have large displays capable of telling you exactly what the condition is.
Moments like this are why people get frustratedâtools should get out of the way, not add extra hoops. Everyoneâs setup works⌠until it suddenly doesnât.
I recently tried to install librewolf onto a W11 machine from the windows store. It wonât even launch that. Not even an error or nothing just gone.
don't use the windows store, when not required you can never know what else they package into your apps. google and amazon's android app stores do this, the latter is even open about adding tracking libs to apps
Well thatâs the thing, itâs a pc Iâm required to use and it got everything else behind administrators password if you catch my drift. (If I had my way it would be Linux)
For now Iâll have to make due with a ff that I tweak by hand where I can.
Don't be too mean, but make sure your admin feels the heat.
Linux is good enough for the desktop for a fuckton of businesses. gentle pressure may get us there in a generatiohn or two
if it helps, I installed it today using winget which I liked.
Install using winget: winget install LibreWolf.LibreWolf --source winget
Try sudo, that usually always works
You are joking but https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/advanced-settings/sudo/
I love the warning note
Sudo for Windows can be used as a potential escalation of privilege vector when enabled in certain configurations. You should make sure to be aware of the security considerations when enabling the sudo command on your machine.
What do you mean a master-key/privilege escalation tool can cause a privilege escalation vulnerability, who knew đ
Well to be fair, there's probably a lot of people who have no fucking clue what sudo is, but are getting instructions from stack overflow err, AI. Not that this warning would necessarily stop them, but there was an attempt.
Fair, I have a handful of dev friends who I know don't know "why" a command or script works, just that it does, so I guess that statement would likely help them.
Always remember: Your OS should do nothing more than provide a GUI for you to access apps and run apps. Anything else is not necessary.
From a non-technical user's pov kinda true.
But not true at all when you enumerate the actual responsibilities of an OS.
Your OS provides a GUI? fancy
Because people actually have a life.
The lines you draw are so arbitrary but at least you're prepared to die on those hills.
Prey tell, what is this OS of yours that is not coercive and doesn't contain bloat, yet has a full GUI as part of the operating system?
Okay be real, you want to do all your networking config and drive pools and high availability all through the CLI?? There's still a reason I use the CLI in the GUI but thats just nuts
Girls, calm down, youâre both pretty. I was being sarcastic. Letâs not argue over a joke.
Honestly though if you pulled out a picture with 14 monitors all with terminals, I would be impressed
3 screens with 3 virtual desktops is my limit man.
"Prey tell" lock in, man.
But also, Linux.
The OS shouldn't even do that. That's the job of the display manager and desktop environment
True.
I also want it to have a built-in clock and calendar in the taskbar. But Microsoft won't even let me have that! They got rid of the calendar!
I still see a calendar if I click the clock on my work laptop. Though that might have been one of the settings I clicked while wondering why MS even thought this should change.
Ah, you're right. Instead of bringing up the calendar, it brings up notifications, and you have to click a little pop-up button to see the calendar. Thank God I only have to worry about this on my work computer.
Your OS can run your home server. No need for GUI if you know what you're doing.
For some tasks (e.g. web browsing), you need a GUI. CLI browsers won't cut it.
But what if my computer is JUST running Jellyfin? No need for a web browser?
I'm guessing this is a misleading post? Probably a random app in the store that's called "terminal" that is broken and the actual windows command prompt is working fine.
Can confirm this is an actual issue from Microsoft impacting lots of normal system apps that update via the Microsoft Store and/or Windows Update.
Iâve seen it mess up Notepad, Snipping Tool to name a few.
Itâs pretty egregious that a bug like this can mess up utilities already installed on your computer.
Windows is really feeling like a single-player video game that requires an always on connection.
Source: Iâm an IT professional who has been helping people with this since yesterday.
More source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/5729246/how-to-fix-error-code-0x803f8001
What's the actual fuck Microsoft
They're preparing to rent people desktop access over the internet. Gotta trim up that you don't own shit store code.
Is that the same update that broke Windows App* authentication?
* their idiotic name for the new remote desktop
Command prompt is slowly becoming legacy. Microsoft wants powershell to be its successor thus Terminal was born.
terminal does support a bunch of different shells, including cmd
I maintain over a hundred windows 11 machines. I recently push new software that I had to manually configure on each machine. While doing this I checked for problems. Over half had terminal and other programs like notepad installed separately. All the machines are in a domain environment but windows 11 ignores many of the GPO's I have in place. Its pathetic and just a reason to have to do more work. So I have no problem believing that terminal had been installed and then disabled due to some microsoft account nonsense.
We use Windows 11 at work. One of the desktops has an error where you can log in but windows displays a notification to the effect of "You're not logged in, your settings and app preference aren't available."
Other than Edge most of the built in programs don't work. No errors, no notifications -- clicking the icon to open them does nothing. Notepad, file explorer, etc.
Hating windows is the ultimate karma farm here on Lemmy. If you can somehow hate windows and Trump in one post, expect to see that shit at the top.
Lemmy doesn't have karma
He should have said "dopamine farm for, number go up"
Semantic bullshit is another big karma farm here too. I could've said updoots, arrows, upvotes. Whatever pleases the Lemmings.
The unified number of combined points (what is refereed as Karma) doesn't exist on Lemmy. There is some point system comment-by-comment, but it's not unified. You can't farm what doesn't exist.
A bit more than a semantics, isn't it?
What you already paid money for your OS? Fuck that. Help us sell your data for basic functionality too.
Linux master race!
As I've been enlightened recently, "but you see, it's hard to create a .desktop link in GNOME, so microslop rulez"
Yeah, I can hardly believe my eyes
Don't worry. Your company will transition to VDIs and everything will always be perfect. /s
The funny thing is Iâm perfectly happy with Windows 10 LTSC and if it was available without a corporate license, I would have happily paid for it. MS execs are their own worst enemy.
Cancel Microsoft đ¤ˇââď¸
Microsoft has admitted to breaking this. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-11-apps-like-notepad-arent-loading-what-is-error-code-0x803f8001-and-how-d
Nah, this is definitely Windows being Windows: https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-11-apps-like-notepad-arent-loading-what-is-error-code-0x803f8001-and-how-d
They even managed to break Notepad!
not really. windows terminal can run several kinds of shells, and last I used it powershell wasn't even the default one
Yeah, What was the default one?
why, did it change from the traditional command prompt?
if it did, that's on me, but with several other shells supported (one of them a cloud service, a shell on a remote system) it does not make sense that a disabled powershell also disables the whole terminal app.
Windows Terminal is a fairly new application. It came along around 2020 and launched with powershell 7 as its thing, in an attempt to drive people away from the old command prompt and to start using powershell. It probably always supported command prompt and other alternative terminal applications, but Microsoft has been trying to put powershell everywhere for a while. I think the Mac and Linux rollout was 2018?
Command prompt is still there but I imagine at some point itâll just run command prompt commands in powershell instead if it isnât already doing something like that already.
I was using it all the time when I was daily driving windows, mostly for ssh, starting from when it was just beta with no settings menu but only the config file. I remember that like the standard powershell shell, powershell tabs of wt too had a blue background, but opening a default new tab always opened a black tab, a cmd based tab.
It's been a while since I used Windows, but back then my company blocked the Store, so I couldn't install the Terminal through that. But it was easy to install through the released msix package - maybe you can install that through Winget?
Alternatively,
Installed POP OS. Connect the Nintendo switch to my laptop using MTP. Double click the file folder. Crashes.
Decide to just reset to see if it would fix it. The laptop loops at the authentication screen infinitely. Used a PC to transfer files instead.
Reformat and install Fedora Workstation since Lenovo ships with it. Installed Anydesk and Rustdesk and Wayland is extremely laggy and the hot keys do not transfer to the remote computer.
I think my next step is to install an xorg OS.
That combination of errors sounds suspiciously like hardware problems.
MTP crash, unexpected but not overly so, it's old code. Authentication issues post reboot on error is super sus.
Wayland can be a little slow, but it seems to be ok for all of my ancient candidates. Keymaps kind of expected, that's the kind of stuff that wayland is actually not great at yet.
Put that all together, I'd say you have something going on with the box.
It's not hardware. Fedora workstation worked for the MTP.
I have multiple computers connections at once using Anydesk and Wayland is basically broken. Alt tab never transfers to the remote computer.
Not accounting for any interesting custom choices you made under the hood, the default file browser for both os's use libfuse3 for MTP. My point is, it shouldn't have crashed, there are open issues in libfuse3 for possible crashes, so you might just have hit one at the wrong time, but at that, it REALLY shouldn't have f'd over your journaling filesystem enough to keep you from logging in. A breaking read/write to fuse should not have been able to f your journal over beyond a simple automatic recovery. Most of the design choices in Linux over the last decade have been made specifically to prevent that kind of thing from happening on a healthy system. One can argue that one distro is more stable than another because they take, or refuse to take newer packages, but for your specific issue, they use the same piece of software under the hood.
The wipe and new OS might have just moved the problems to a less visible area.
My primary anger with Wayland is the security issues that broke AHK that they're just now considering. There's been lots of finger pointing over the years, but now that most OS's are ditching X11 support all together, we're going to see a lot more compatibility coming in the next year or two.
Fedora has built in rdp server. That's what I use. Laggy? Ya dude that's for office work, don't push more than 1080p, yes it's still gonna be inperfect
For gaming u gotta use sunshine moonlight or whatever they called. But that requires more fucking around with than I care
I'll try this
If you are looking for a gaming distro then try out Nobara Linux
I love how every comment tells you to use a different distro lol. Don't you guys see problem? You cant ask people to change their distro for every issue they stumble upon.
And everyone telling dear reader to change distros is doing it from a position of ignorance.
Even the least reliable of those distros should not be seeing anything but the keymap issue. MTP crash, unable to login afterward, That reeks of ram/disk issues.
I see exactly one(1) comment that suggests trying a different distro.
One comment is suggesting using a game streaming application (Moonlight).
One comment is suggesting using the RDP server that comes with Fedora (which jaschen306 stated they are using).
One comment is yours.
One comment is saying it's probably a hardware issue.
And finally, one comment is suggesting a gaming-focused Linux distro - but specifically calling out that it's if they're looking for a gaming distro.
Admittedly I have Hexbear and Lemmygrad blocked, so I might be missing other comments.
My bad, my PTSD kicked in as I read some names that I assumed were other distros. Its way too common when troubleshooting Linux to see people sugesting a whole other distro as a definitive solution, only to have other problems different to the one you're trying to fix.
Out of the 4 comments other than yours, there are exactly 2 that recommend using a different distro.
Don't sign into Windows with an online account. You can still do offline only accounts and it fixes this problem. The Microsoft Store still works too but IDK why you'd use that.
I prefer Windows 10 and Linux. Seriously!
I know it's insecure, but I'm a Windows 10 holdout on my desktop. I allowed 11 on my shitty travel laptop and performance went way down. I'll probably wipe it and dance with Linux again.
Does this mean Terminal is installed but one can only use it when one is logged into the store?
Or maybe I don't understand Windows logic; it's been over a decade for me.
Yeah, that's correct, though this is the "terminal app" which just allow you to have more customization, and tabs, you can still search cmd.exe and make it run.
Probably using some AI to do fuzzy authentication or something. I had a window pop up like this on my work laptop for some random app it was checking for updates on but failed to authenticate for (just for that app, no other errors, hasn't popped up again since).
lol wow
Is this the inbuilt Microsoft terminal?
No, I was curious about it so I looked it up, it's a secondary first party terminal app it seems, I was wondering as well cause I didn't see how the system could even function without it. Powershell and Command Prompt are still available it's just terminal has the ability to merge them into one app it seems.
what in the what...
I'm afraid of buying a new computer now
Get help
office 365 subscription is all tech support offers these days.
Ffs
I actually want a distro that I don't have to constantly fix.
Skill issue
still im not typing in a short novel into a terminal just to change my screen brightness brogur and fries
Ermmm that's really not needed, there are distros that barely require you to ever open the terminal
Not humor. Not an MS problem. Shit post, in the bad way.
Except MS seems to be acknowledging they caused it https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/19764
Why is a terminal emulator checking their account anyway? Who puts DRM on a terminal emulator besides Microsoft?
Business that care about their software supply chain.