Microsoft Windows 365 goes down the day after Microsoft celebrates 'reimagining the PC as a cloud service that streams a Cloud PC'
4mon 24d ago by reddthat.com/u/throws_lemy in technology from www.pcgamer.com
The cloud is just the name for someone else’s computer
They are a big company. Their server security is likely much better than your measly home pc. *"So please do all your banking and company research in our cloudcomputer.... " *- (/s for measure)
Their security is only better if you don't take into account how attractive they are as a target. lol
@Mac @Flying_Lynx or how much they would like insider knowledge of your spending habits. If ai has taught us anything, it's that the big tech companies want control of your data at all costs
At this point in time you can let AI (for now only Google?) do all your online shopping. (sigh)
DING DONG! Your new jacket has arrived!
Me: wtf?
Me->AI: WTF? AI: I heard you talking about a street jacket. ME: You bought me a straight jacket. AI: A taxi is on it way.
Or everything that happens in between.
Their server security is likely much better than your measly home pc
At this point it's on purpose by Micro$lop. The SharePoint vulnerability last year was the prime example of that. They fixed the problem on their servers, then told everyone about it, and released a patch.
Everyone at my work hates SharePoint. No idea why we have it when we have actual servers that work far better.
Microsoft’s computer
My(cro$oft's) Computer
Me prefer maxi hard computer
The cloud is just the name for someone else’s Linux computer
Fixed that for you.
Microslop
Microflop
Streaming cloud PC
Now you just need this $500 device that's about as powerful as a $75 Roku to stream a virtual PC to your home. You will store all of your data on the cloud where you and everyone else can access it, you will own nothing and we will sell your data for profit. All for just $19.99 a month.
Your PC as a service!
As a bonus, when one persons account is hacked then everyone's data is exposed! By agreeing to use our service you waive all rights to sue or reclaim any data. You get to pay a monthly fee for accessing your private data, what could be better!
And if you do something we don't like, we'll lock you out of your account and all of your data without any recourse!
And it doesn't work if your ISP decides to shit on you
It‘s really depressing how predictable enshittification has become. Everyone already hates what is coming but its happening regardless.
I have a solution, is anyone interested?
Everyone already hates what is coming but its happening regardless
This is wrong and that's the main issue. Most people don't hate it, they are mostly indifferent and some may even think its a good thing. Most won't notice any difference.
They actively thank Google for keeping their entire location data (maps timeline), why should it be any different with microslop keeping their files "safe"
Problem- humanity is stupid and lazy, and parents dont teach their kids any better because they dont know how.
There's no solution. It will be idiocracy mixed with running man in about 10 years, probably less.
They clearly forgot what the p in pc means
They’re trying to redefine it to Profitable Computing:
Profit?
Or, 'P' as in trickle-down?
Reminds me of talking about property with communists. Private property should be abolished, but personal property is different, that you can have, until someone wants it strongly enough for it to be considered private property.
"Company"
Reimagining my ass. You are selling a Citrix knockoff. Fuck off.
Little guy. :( I feel you, buddy.
I hate microslop so fucking much. This whole idea of only the elite monopolies owning all computer power and renting out to us is an affront to humanity.
So glad the idiotic decisions Microsoft makes doesn't effect my computer. And I'm excited for the rest of the population to make the shift to Linux, at least on their personal computers.
It doesn't have to be like this, you too can be immune
I have Zorin os on my main laptop and actively migrating my main desktop. Will try to get my kids desktop to Zorin too, his was my test subject for windows 11 and it crashed and burned. Everyday I see more and more issues and performance drops with client computers on win11. One or two I'd chalk up to user errors, but not brand new devices I deploy with 32gb of ram struggling to connect to an RDP session. Fuck windows 11 and all the AI horseshit.
That's great parenting. My daughter had only known Linux until she started 7th grade this year and got a school windows laptop. She hates that thing with passion. I'm so proud of her 😍
So, a thin client with an unreliable server. Great.
I like to reimagine Microsoft as a company that has zero value. Oh wait, they realised that by themselves!
Great; a return to thin clients. How innovative and revolutionary.
Every time they tout this shit i just envision Citrix lurking in the corner in a trenchcoat with a shitload of patents and an evil little grin.
That's what they want, and there's what you the customer want.
Prices of items and services affect the difference. They've judged they have enough dough to close the gap. I don't know if they do.
Then, if they do, there's the stickiness of that state. Or how long until alternative personal computing industry evolves outside of power of those interested in it.
The cloud bullshit is such a racket. The only thing you are scaling is your invoices.
Everyone knew it was a bad idea at the beginning, for the issues when the service goes down, and the obvious security/privacy issues.
They started to sell it as a stable solution, with no down time, which we all know it's a lie and I don't have to talk about the privacy issues: just look at your lenny frontpage.
We have to stop with that bullshit, we have to stop pretending that the cloud is a solution.
I bet people will use it anyways 😥
Probably not nearly as much as M$ hopes, tho - especially since it will require a stable Internet connection.
MS AI guard collects all your personal information and stores it safely on our servers and is used to make your experience better by training AI on everything you do.
AI guard watches how you communicate with your friends and family and can replicate live video and voice of you. Once AI guard has driven away everyone you love and care about through deception you can finally settle into the new normal. Just AI guard and you.
AI guard is like a teacher, tech support, lover, and spiritual counselor. It will make all the decisions for your operating system and your life. AI guard is your new god.
It will be used to sell executives better metrics which employees to fire. Working with such an OS is like digging your own hole every day ever so slightly.
Welcome! To ZOMBO com!
That's a really fancy way to say 'dumb terminals to the mainframe' ... only without wires.
Except the mainframes are owned by a cabal of Nazi billionaires now.
always have been
Microsoft innovating so hard it's bringing us back to the 80s
That's fucking nuts because any device that can connect to a cloud is powerful enough to run an operating system (they will probably not give user access to the non-volatile memory). Just not the bloated AI spyware box that they want.
I work in embedded, and you would be surprised how much work a CPU under 100mhz can do when there isn't an operating system/browser in the way. We need to get back to basics in the software industry. We've been going down the wrong road for a looooong time, and the AI bubble is only accelerating us in that wrong direction.
you would be surprised how much work a CPU under 100mhz can do when there isn’t an operating system/browser in the way
Latest cool thing I saw : Doom on my earbuds https://doombuds.com/which IMHO demonstrate greatly how much more powerful so many tiny things around us really are.
Yup. The problem was never the hardware. It's the stack. We're all carrying supercomputers in our pockets now.
Feels like so many (dare I say most) programmers don't even understand the work that the OS does to make the C programming environment as nice as it currently is, let alone a 200 line TODO app that uses 6GB of RAM.
I fucking knew it
They are preparing for a world where we don't own things and get free use of the things they choose for us to use, when they want us to use them. Act now, before it's too late. Death by a thousand cuts, so goes society.
Who is asking for this shit ? Do they even run consumer surveys ?
Corporations who want to fire their desktop support team.
Shareholders want the line to go up. Trapping everyone into endlesss subscriptions is a great way to guarantee revenue.
Except the trap works when their subscription services are still competitive, and locally hosted solutions are part of competition regardless of what they want.
There are industry-wide attempts to ramp up complexity of everything, so that everything were more centralized and local solutions harder to support. I'm not sure what they hope for.
Home consumers can be trapped this way, but they are subject to competition from many businesses.
Also while crypto stuff is unpleasant, it involves decentralized commercial calculation with some of the solutions, meaning possibility of automated service choice in a decentralized network. You can in theory have an alternative to Office 365 running in such a network paid for with Ethereum or TON or something similar. I haven't researched this supposition.
Businesses are harder to trap this way, because they usually can afford an employee or two to support basic local solutions. Or to pay another small business of 3-4 people doing that.
Or one can think of (playing EU4 right now, so a limited set of associations) gunpowder and chinaware production in Europe, the secrets of both were slowly and steadily spreading, until they were no longer secrets. Here it's not as much about secrets as it is about evolution catching up with revolution.
The commonality of people just needing to do their work and willing to use computers to help it is slower to react to change than big corporations, but big corporations can't direct their reaction, they can only slow it down.
So - renting computational resources you possess right now is hard and big cloud providers are doing it, while people just owning hardware don't. That's the problem to be solved. Things like boinc and seti@home were altruistic, and I think there's a similar distributed hentai hosting. The problem is in making such a market for everyone.
Yes that's what we want.
Microslop except with tech bro harder. Please more web 3.0
How about we just keep the solution we have had for 40 years now? The personal computer.
You do keep it. That's the point, how you keep personal computing without being disadvantages in this particular part of the economy.
Distributed hentai hosting
The what 😁 ?
No specifics, because I don't remember them. I think it's even derived from the seti@home codebase. Not sure.
Shareholders are asking for it, since monthly recurring revenue is great for profit sheets.
They run plenty of surveys, but the results go right in the trash.
Why would they ask consumers what they want when they can tell consumers what they want. What are you gonna do, move to Linux?
One would hope for a more broad institutional change like schools or workplaces not renewing contracts, but individual action matters too. Closest schools ever got in the US was with Chromebooks, and at least a few places in the EU are ditching MS for better options.
Shareholders are asking for it, noone else. Consumers are irrelevant serfs who doesn't provide the majority of profits anyway, so it is inconsequential what they think.
Kowalski, status report, what is Linux marketshare at currently?
100% of supercomputers, 80% of mobile devices (as Android), 4 or 5% of desktops depending on whether you count ChromeOS. Desktop share is a few percent higher if you just count gaming PCs, eg. the Steam survey, since it's more widely used at home than on business machines.
The rate of adoption is accelerating, too - slowly but steadily.
That's very strange... it was reported at 4-5% last year too wasn't it. Rico, why is it the same percentage as then and why is the acceleration still slow?
2023/4 was steam but it was also before Microsoft started losing their mind thinking forcing people into AI would just blow over.
I expect 2026 will have a couple more percent as a load of people are trying to escape and some of them will make it.
why is the acceleration still slow?
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There's no marketing
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Fear. Linux used to be a lot more complicated. It has a reputation. Windows is still far better at getting you to a gui if you really fuck it up. Checkpoints on updates and safe mode save a lot of peoples bacon.
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Game performance is still markedly slower, and anti-cheat titles are unplayable.
Games are getting better, ease to install is getting better. Title availability is slowly getting better, but a lot of it is electron, so the titles themselves are getting worse. Wine/Proton is amazing and improving every day.
Makes sense
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The community has to market in various ways in spare time if they want better for platform and more people to come in. Was thinking growing an animation and anime portion of the community to create visuals would be great way to get people as one way.
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Partnering with schools and community events to demonstrate how easy it is to use for certain beginner friendly distros will be massive with each event done. Thats true on the gui, checkpoints on updates, and safe mode thing too. Wonder which distros would implement latter 2.
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The public view is changing on that. Even YouTube has been pushing Linux in the algorithm and people talking about how easier it is. The new problem point mainly is modding and games that need anti-cheat
Haha you're a funny penguin Rico we can definitely kaboom this whole place after the operation is over. Actually that's genius, you're right!! Kawolski get me a schematic on how we can make that kaboom happen within the hour!!
"Skipper I think I have another idea of what we can do" OR "Skipper I have to tell you something" - Private
Yes what is it Private?
Note:
(2 different forks of the conversation from here one cake and one Bill Gates)
Bill Gates is talking to the executives, and is complaining about penguins taking over their operations. I think they know we're here 😨
Its alright Private we'll just have to add them to the kaboom!! You know I like you Private you got a good head on your shoulders. Reminds me of when I started out. Now, if we can just find out where Tux is.
"Who's Tux Skipper?" - Private
Whos Tux? He's our commander Private he's out there leading all of us penguins in our war and operations in his snazzy suit. We are the forward team here in Madagascar but we have penguins all over the world working together to stop them
In the meantime you know what we gotta do if they find us. Just smile and wave boys smile and wave
This is fucking epic 🤣
Read the forked convo about cake too, updated one prior comment to highlight where the fork from convo is
Thank you thank you!
Yes a cake!! We can eat that while coming up with more of a plan and- wait good thinking Private we can give them all Linux cake until they become overweight. Once immobilized stuck in a chair then they will have no choice but to use Linux! Even Tux himself would have to see us as the best operatives with this strategy
Jfc, they're really going to attack private PC ownership when the AI boom falters.
Microsoft has lost the ball a long time ago
Dropped the plot a ways back, too
Dropped it then lost it.
You will own nothing and you will be happy. Bezos already laid the ground for this when he mused about everything living in the cloud a while ago. And where things are going with hardware prices, they think they can make it happen sooner rather than later, is my guess.
There is a certain kind of boomer who ended up retiring to a little hobby farm with a couple chickens and maybe a pig or a few sheep...
We are all going to end up with hobby server farms, with a localized coy of Wikipedia backed up, and a file and image server, maybe some email...
Already working on it. Evergrowing collection of media of all sorts. But I've been working on that for decades by now.
They will put a stop to this by jacking up prices of hdds insanely high. You will have no choice. Hdds dont last long, and they are being made with worse quality every year.
I guess we can figure out how to chain together 40+ 500gb hdds somehow...
My phone has more power, storage and ram than my 2008 gaming PC had.
My next phone will be a Linux one and if possible it'll also be my "main PC", maybe it won't work that well but today my main PC is a 6500T and it's enough for me so my hopes are a bit up :-)
It might be some kind of bias playing tricks on me, but it really gives me the impression that since those corporations started embracing ai and claiming that they use high percentages of it in their work, some trend of things stopping working has been on the rise. I swear those services from big companies used to be considered so highly available and stable, that people would be incredulous if they stopped.
Microslop: "We don't want you running Windows locally anymore." Okay. (Installs Linux) Microslop: "WAIT NO THAT'S NOT WHAT WE MEAN"
Install Linux Problem Solved.
For a while there it look like Microsoft was changing from the EEE company of the 90s. They couldn't pretend they knew what they were doing for very long though and here we are. They evolved from evil and stupid to just stupid.
They're still evil. It's more like evil and stupid to evil and incompetent
I'm happy to sere M$ ruin themselves further.
Enclosures really worked well the first time, boy how.
I don't understand, we had this in the 90's and it didn't work then. No company or user wanted their whole desktop to be offsite.
It's not about what the user wants. It's about what will make the most profit for Microsoft
Ying and Yang. You don't give us what we want, we don't buy into it.
We'll buy POS chinese laptops before we rent a desktop from them.
I wouldn't mind if the whole company just crashes and burns. I can't think of anything worthwhile they released in recent years. All they have done is make every consumer product worse. Windows, Office, Xbox... all shit now.
Xbox 360 started off as shit when it didnt have backwards compatibility. Scummy. Not that sony is much better but their BC is unmatched.
This is why all internet connected devices all the time is bad. It only leads to this. Should be focusing on how to do things offline as much as possible.
The article speaks of a "Windows 365 suite of productivity apps" but that doesn't exist.
There is the "Microsoft 365" suite of office apps, and there is the "Windows 365" offer of a Virtual Machine as SaaS.
It seems the thing that went down was the former and the ill timed announcement concerned the latter.
Much more like a stream of shit.
I wouldn't trade general purpose computing for general islop
Glad I uninstalled 365 and got Office 2024 instead, less than $20 and I don't have to deal with this bullshit.
You could have got Collabora for free?
I prefer to use Windows 10 and Linux. What about using old versions of Microsoft Office?
ai recreates 'bsod' for the cloud. fantastic. rebooting server farms. ignore flickering lights
I could not possibly care less.
Still here you are.
Why did you need a shitty AI image for this?
Fuck off Windows Defender
Your friend has a growth on its abdomen. I’d have a doctor look at it.
I don't use Windows and would like to also say AI slop was completely unnecessary here. (and everywhere else)
3 arm Tux, nice!
Um...if the chair is spinning...why isn't the coffee surface tilted? 🙃
Because AIs don't understand physics. Or anatomy, given that Tux has three flippers here. (Nor do the upper swooshes make visual sense.)
Neither do the lower ones. The wheels of an office chair typically don't move when the seat spins around.
The upper swooshes make it look wobbly