Tech Billionaires Want Us Dead
4mon 17d ago by slrpnk.net/u/Five in breadtube@slrpnk.net from www.youtube.com
In all fairness there are too damn many of us we imbalance the global biosphere, but I say we start with billionaires if anything?!
This is just eco fascism. The carrying capacity depends on how we live with the earth. Billionaires alone use more resources than most of the global population, but they also manipulate global systems to maintain their power which uses far more resources. Between the institutional violence and the way they manipulate the economy to maintain the illusion that their power is legitimate, we're talking about the vast majority of resources being used to support a few thousand people.
The largest consumer of oil is the US military. State violence alone is pushing us over our carrying capacity, and they're doing it to maintain and expand the wealth of billionaires. And that doesn't account for all the subsides that they use to siphon wealth through waste, or the ways economic pressure keeps us from doing things more efficiently.
That "too many people" shit is simply not true.
Okay, make an enclosed biosphere and just keep adding life to it and see what happens. We take up too much bio real estate. There is only so much to go around in an enclosed system, like the earth. Yeah it's big, but we can't save the whales and have all the humans possible. It is irresponsible, because nothing keeps US in check like in any other natural system. I am not simply talking about food nor pollution, I am talking about the entire biosphere.
You're just saying shit without backing it up, because you can't. Nothing you're saying even challenges anything I've said.
Yeah, you can't add organisms infinitely. No one has argued that. Yes there's a limit. You've just asserted that we've passed the limit without any evidence. The limit depends on how resources are used. Your haven't addressed that.
Humans are non-malthusian organisms, but capitalism forces us to act as though we were. The problem is capitalism, not people. Again, GTFO with your eco fascism. It's not based in reality and it just helps Petrofascism shift the blame from fossil fuel extraction to "we have too many people."
It's bullshit lies and oil apologetics, and if you actually want to make things better you should educate yourself instead of just making unfounded claims.
My evidence is the lack of biodiversity the planet has been left with. Every corner was teeming with life, now it's a few corners and people and our giant apparatus everywhere. Animals and bugs and plants don't count to you. I'm not apologizing for anything, I just wish y'all did t think you were so great that we can pollute the world with stupid apes and call it progress.
Again, none of this contradicts anything I've said. The problem is capitalism. People thinking that we aren't just "part of nature," imagining ourselves separate from it, cause all of this. You're saying it's "people" which replicates the exact same assumptions. You are the same as the system you claim to oppose.
Sure, capitalism is the route of all evil, or maybe it's actually just money. If we all lived in a free, just society maybe we wouldn't mass reproduce and live in balance with nature. But the hard truth is we don't and we won't, there will always be those who want to take it all and give nothing back. That should be a pariah on society, not an elected official. Too bad we live in this world and not a fantasy land.
Oh, you agree with the extinctionists. Now I understand. You're not arguing in good faith. You don't care about the truth because you're a cultist. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
Not believing that people can do better is a great excuse not to change, to not work to make things better, to blame others, to kill others. It sounds like the problem is really just you.
You keep trying to put me in a little box. I'm not an ist or follow an ism. I make my community better because that's what I can affect, I don't worry about what I can't, but I have my opinions and I like them. What great things are you doing to change the world? Arguing with people on social media? Oh, okay...
Become vegan and abolish cars and you've halved the human impact on the biosphere. Ban fossil fuels and you've halved it again. Ban planned obsolescence and you've halved it again. Switch from extensive agriculture to food farms and you've halved it again.
There is room for a trillion humans with better quality of life than most of us know, if only we act like stewards of the ecosystem rather than consumers of it (though I like the current trend of it flattening out at 10-20 billion, so we don't have to turn most of the world into a food forest carefully optimized for human resource needs).
My only fear is how many people would rather burn the world than change their lifestyle.
Really, if I eat vegan all the lost animal species will just reappear? I am talking about the biome, and how much "life" it can physically sustain. Most of nature requires the habitat we've ruined and farms are no better in that fact. Just look at pesticides and monocultures as evidence of that, and then what we do grow is resistant to pest and disease and not natural as in it won't seed on its own, etc... we do lots of bad things to the planet, but only so much life can be sustained. Our individual footprints are massive and our desire in unending.