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Gravity is all in your head

4mon 14d ago by piefed.world/u/The_Picard_Maneuver in curatedtumblr@sh.itjust.works from media.piefed.world

Pretty sure everyone my age who saw the episode of Dragon Ball Z where Gohan teaches Videl how to fly all sat there that day and fuckin tried our hardest.

One of the consequences of getting older is that you forget what its like to simply not know things.

My two year old son is constantly climbing up stuff and tumbling off it without any regard to the possibility that gravity might be holding him back. Every time he lands hard, he looks at me with tears in his eyes, as though the whole world has betrayed him. If you could just fly by not understand gravity, everyone under the age of six would be levitating constantly.

Although, in Andrew's case, it might be less "getting older" and more "getting repeatedly concussed".

Just wait 'til he turns 3 - that's when they gain the teleportation skill.

It's not true teleportation, it's just incredible acceleration. It's easy to mistake one for the other, if you make the mistake of blinking.

I can also note that their top speed is still limited. They can't run on water, for example. (Guess how we found THAT one out!)

Well, it's not enough to not understand gravity, or Isaac Newton would be the most hated human of all time. You have to fall and miss the ground, for example by being distracted in just the right moment.

liek if u cry evrytime :'(

And from that point you can just fly all the way to the restaurant at the end of the universe.

I think he was always a dumb son of a bastard

I do remember thinking something along the lines of: "... that.... sounds weirdly do-able.....?? .... Shut up, brain.... Unless......"

I've spent more time than I care to admit to trying to shoot ki blasts and kamehamehas out of my hands

Dbz is the first thing I thought of. Powering up and screaming while all the other kids laugh at you. Idk how I ever got a girlfriend

I did it after seeing Hook in the theater

Correct

The secret is that you have to throw yourself at the ground and miss.

I remember reading that for the first time at 13 and thinking it was the smartest fucking thing I had ever read. It makes perfect sense too. Sadly my aim is impeccable.

It's basically how orbiting works in a roundabout way. You just needed to go faster!

in a roundabout way

Very good.

According to catholics, that's how sex works too. Too bad they're all sharpshooters...

Tell that to a whale or bowl of petunias that suddenly materialized in the atmosphere of a planet with gravity

Not again

I tried hiring myself out as a distraction for people just before they hit the ground but the air horn and firecrackers aren’t working, maybe I just don’t have the legs for it

I almost upvoted you, then I realized you had 42 upvotes.

Now they're over, it might be time to downvote

If only Andrew Tate had the balls to recreate it irl

You go first Andrew!

I only just noticed who the OOP was

Got whiplash seeing it was him.

Franz Reichelt, the Flying Tailor, seemed to be pretty sure he could fly when, in 1912, he tried testing a wingsuit he designed himself. By jumping from the Eiffel Tower. He could not fly.

I had a similar genius idea involving a bunk bed when I was 5.

It looks like he just wrapped himself up in a camping blanket like it's a cape, but with a vampire-style oversized collar

Holy shit I was not prepared to see a dude fall to his death. I thought for sure it was just a glitz reel filmed the day before his failed attempt at flying

How Thomas Wayne actually died

Some crazy person eventually got their fancy wing suit to actually work eventually.

I can't tell the difference between Andrew Tate accounts and Andrew Tate parody accounts. Wonder if he's trying to lay the groundwork for an insanity defense?

I don't seek him out, but when I see screenshots of stuff he's said, it's usually some vacuous nonsense like this.

To be the devil's advocate, I think by fly he meant personal development, like actually trying to do something with your life. Idk don't ask me, I'm a gamer

You're most likely right, but didn't he also say that it's gay for a man to sleep with a woman for enjoyment?

Ancient Greek Philosophy has entered the chat

literal basic straightness is gay???

But I get a stupid-looking sweet hat off that body, plus scrolls containing a new and hilarious way to commit suicide!

I'm aware. Too bad the author didn't have the player's amazing ability to read a sheet of paper while flying at Mach speeds!

Human terminal velocity is no where near Mach speeds. Only about 120-200 mph.

Acrobatics buffs your horizontal and vertical speeds. The scroll lets you leap across a huge portion of the entire island in under ten seconds. I'm not sure how big Vvardenfell is canonically, but the caster is definitely going far faster than terminal velocity.

Great game design. Bethesda is telling the player "You can break our game with custom magic. Go do stupid shit."

Playing Morrowind really spoiled me for the rest of the Elder Scrolls series. Many gameplay elements of it were trash, but the ability to circumvent so many of them with magic/alchemy more than made up for it. Oblivion and Skyrim somewhat improved the gameplay, but they removed the option to become a god through exploiting magic.

And Morrowind removed mechanics from Daggerfall, like climbing walls and giving yourself perks and flaws at character creation.

And Arena before that had a spell to pass through walls. That broke things infinitely worse than levitation ever did!

With the Scrolls of Icarian Flight, flying is not the problem, but the landing.

Tarhiel's dumbass just needed to cast another scroll before landing. 🤦‍♂️

I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success.

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single pilot in the world

To Andrew Tate: Try me. Sincerely, every single pilot precipice in the world

A friend of mine came close once. In Morrowind, he made a jumping potion that allowed him to clear the entire island and two jumps. one from the edge of the map to the top of the mountain, and then another one to the other edge of the island. He got stunned at the end of that last fall and drowned in about a foot of water.

I'm pretty sure trying to fly is a pretty common experience, and many of those people tried really really hard.

I did. I settled on doing it with mechanical help.

RIght! What kid didn't jump off a chair/table/stairs hoping to fly, it fails. Then you get a cape, because Superman wears a cape so OBVIOUSLY you needed the cape..., then jump again and it fails. So you try again a few times, maybe with a super hero pose when you jump. Then someone yells at you to stop doing that...

Just flying with a paraglider is fucking amazing. I bet this moron never even tried that. Twenty hours + theory exam and you're good to go.

When I was a kid my older sister fooled me into believing that if I made daily sacrifice of a specific flower in a valley near my home at exactly 6am I'd get to fly and even eat the clouds. I did that for almost a month before my mom told me the truth.

there's a special word for people trying to make someone else fly; defenestration

I do believe that requires an open window in the vicinity as well.

Doesn't strictly have to be open, though that will make it easier.

Can't you just throw someone off a cliff, and then throw a window after them?

🤌

Oh shit, I thought that was a LinkedIn Lunatic post and was searching for the next part.

I remember when New Age sold me on Idealism.

Here's the thing. It's bullshit.

History has many examples of men who fell to their deaths believing God would stop the fall.

One of them was actually a guy who claimed to be the second coming of Jesus. Claimed he'd miraculously fly on a donkey.

Fell right off the cliff and debunked his whole religion he did.

Darwin Awards in action.

Actually, I'm going to offer a counterargument.

There's lots of flat earthers who conducted experiments to determine if the earth is flat, and got the result they wanted. My favourite is the guy who brought a spirit level on a plane. When the level didn't move, he said it was proof the earth was flat. He was wrong, because he interpreted the results of his experiment wrong. His method didn't test what he said it did.

I think your Jesus 2 is like the plane level guy. His method is wrong, it doesn't test what he's trying to test. Or at least, doesn't test realism vs idealism. What it does test is whether his own espoused beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality. So that guy is wrong to say that he can perform the miracle of flight. But I argue there's a lot of grey area in between "This one guy's beliefs are the ultimate nature of reality" and "naive realism is true".

What I believe is that there exist rules of psychology which operate at a deeper level than our own surface level beliefs. For example, sometimes I'm really mad with My partner because we had a fight and I believe that My life is worse without it. But then I go to bed, and in the morning I remember how much I love it, and we make up. I had a belief, but it was not the truth of My being. The deeper truth was My great love for it.

Your Jesus 2 fellow perhaps didn't believe that he could fly on a donkey, in his heart of hearts. On a surface level, maybe he believed it, but I'm not convinced it was the core of his being. I think it would have been much easier for him to persuade the core of his being that he could fly, if he had been in the cockpit of an airplane.

I don't actually believe in airplanes, I think they're just a symbol in our conscious interface, as Donald Hoffman argues. But I think airplanes are connected to some rule of our psychology that allows us to fly under certain conditions. And to our limited point of view, that rule looks a lot like an airplane.

I don’t actually believe in airplanes, I think they’re just a symbol in our conscious interface, as Donald Hoffman argues. But I think airplanes are connected to some rule of our psychology that allows us to fly under certain conditions. And to our limited point of view, that rule looks a lot like an airplane.

Couldn't you test this by having someone attempt to use a fake radio believing it's real?

I mean if that were true, wouldn't ANY air plane work? Wouldn't it be impossible to improve on the design of airplanes if it's all belief?

It's not all belief, and I'm not saying it's all belief. I'm saying the laws of physics that appear to us through our senses are actually laws of psychology. But they are still laws. I believe we have a better chance of understanding them and building technology to overcome them if we use both physics and psychology at once on the problem. But deception and self-delusion are not especially powerful psychological techniques, so I would not expect them to work very well in this situation.

I bet he knew, but at that point he'd talked himself into a corner with his followers and had no choice but to jump or face the shame.

Wish Trump had the balls to feel shame

Nah, you just need enough faith to see that he actually flew.

Wingsuits and gliders are the ways people fly.

I heard that it’s easier if you start from the top of a high building so you have time to get a feel for the air.

"All those guys at the bottom are losers. Let me show you!"

Uh, yeah I tried. I jumped off my roof with cardboard attached to my arms and flapped. It didn't work. 😔

90% of people quit RIGHT before they learn to fly.

When I was really young I was very confused as to why my plastic shopping bag always seemed to fail as a parachute. Reckoned I needed more height.

Bet it made you a legend tho, right?

My elementary school classmate Seth did this, he wound up with a broken leg. Although he did hedge his bets with an umbrella, maybe that ruined it.

Shockingly common story.

My parents made me wings from scraps of wood and fabric and I'd run along the sidewalk trying to take off.

It never worked though.

Bethesda needs to make more games.

One of the kids at my college did an art thesis to the effect of mapping out, in giant greys anatomy meets da Vinci like drawings, what it would take for the human body to evolve to support wings. Mad scientist level and cool work.

Bruh last time I tried to fly…it went fine? I got on a plane and flew. Eat shit sex pest.

I mean, no scientists have ever done a double-blind study on the effectiveness of parachutes at height. There's a possibility that landing safely is just a placebo effect.

Landing safely is just survivor bias. No dead parachutist ever reported a failed parachute.

My paraglider says otherwise

Specifically calling out Bethesda is both very accurate and question raising.

I seem to also remember a similar encounter in the first Mass Effect.

Garrus: “Don’t you miss our little conversations?”

This kind of a note is also one of the very first things you see in Divinity: Original Sin. I just started playing the game for the first time last night and got a chuckle out of that.

Great game btw

Go on Andrew you can do it we all believe in you, try it right now and show the haters!

You never know how far you can walk until you try to fly.

Wait... you guys can't fly ?

EDIT: It appears that another party has published the contents of my journal before me, currently with a resounding 15 upvotes. I believe this previous poster is a farce. A Telvanni spy sent to ridicule my work.

"I believe I may have found the correct formula for the spell I am developing. With it, I will be able to travel great distances without the need to pay others for the service.

If all goes well, I will test out the new spell tomorrow. I believe I have worked out all of the possible complications. It will allow me to leap great distances, covering many hundreds of miles. Never before has one been able to travel in this manner: vaulting from the ground, sailing through the sky, all without that terrible disorientation of a spell of flying.

The time is almost upon me. My research is finished, and all of my calculations are checked and rechecked. They laughed at me when I suggested this. We'll see who laughs after I leap to the top of their towers and scream out my success."

And so he plans to try reallw hard now? I wouldn't want to stop him...

Oh gross. Don’t post tates shit.

You just need to push your ki downwards like in dragon ball and you can fly

Distasteful Tate repost aside, this is extremely similar to the first note you encounter as a player in Divinity: Original Sin.

I tried as a kid when a hurricane hit (it had run out of water by then so it was safe)

Franz Reichelt would like a word.

The most useless talismen in the game. At least the Trick Mirror talismans might actually trick a bad red man into fighting the wrong guy. Knowing when a fall will simply hurt you, kill you, or already be completely safe is impossible.

I have researched it and come to the conclusion I don't have enough money. Take to the seas instead like Neptune intended!

When there's a smile in your heart There's no better time to start Think of all the joy you'll find When you leave the world behind And bid your cares goodbye You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly! You can fly!

I've never gotten to the training phase because of the research phase.

Andrew Tate confirmed "Soulist?"

Soulist?

There's this group that pokes it's head around here from time to time that call themselves that, or "anarcho-antirealists." They claim that objective reality, including physical laws like gravity, are "oppressive" and only exist because people believe in them.

So gravity is something you consider unjust?

Yes. Gravity does not ask one’s consent before pulling.

They're a bizarre, annoying cult but seem mostly harmless, they're just roleplayers who forgot their dice.

nods I'm friends with some, but wanted an outsiders' perspective. To be honest I only joined their discord group because I was desperate to believe. Now I'm there simply because they're nice people.

I really wish I could believe in magic, but, that ship sailed when it turned out Uri Geller can't really bend spoons with his mind.

Key and peele are prophets.

Maybe he meant an airplane when he asked how many have tried to fly?

Well, did he write this before or after having his head kicked in?

Many people did. Now there are living in Toulouse.

Everyone can fly. Not everyone can land.

Epistemic nihilist at it again.

I used to be New Age. Watched Spirit Science religiously.

Oh the fact that people believe you can do anything by willing it hard enough.

Comes crashing down when you notice that only the higher ups in the cult seem to be able to will themselves rich. Especially when none of them are willing to demonstrate their "powers" under controlled conditions.

All this "You can literally do anything, death is an illusion" talk and yet they never actually show any time a crystal has actually cured cancer.

I never wanted to be a materialist realist. But the problem with reality is that it is true even if you are doing your damndest not to believe it.

Birds are not real. They are government spy drones. Lockdown was to recharge their batteries! (sarcasm obviously dont ban me please)

Does Andrew not know about Airplanes or has he being trying to fly like Goku?

Ive flown like a hundred times in my life as an average schmuck, what is this idiot talking about?