Anon is a PC gamer
3mon 29d ago by sh.itjust.works/u/Early_To_Risa in greentext@sh.itjust.works from sh.itjust.works
Cloud gaming is effectively impossible due to little things like the speed of light. Sure, you could play Civilization via cloud but good fucking luck with competitive shooters.
That and the US being such a large market while having some of the worst internet in the developed world. Last I read only ¼ of the network is fiber
I live in France, has fantastic fibre, would still hate to play civilisation "in the cloud".
There is just no incentive to do so IMO. Even a cheap mobile phone can render well enough, and I just hate any kind of even "possible" lag.
/Rant off 😋
I play games over 4G happily. Not likely to work very well with game streaming. Especially if everyone else is. I did it during covid and it was ok but input lag was noticeable. SSH dwarf fortress and got into cdda was a better experience.
tbf: The US is huge as fuck. Most countries in the developed world could fit in Texas.
Yeah but the ones that have shit internet don't have money to pay for the games anyways
It's so stupid. It's a solution looking for a problem.
I'm happy that Google Stadia died.
As with anything these techbro oligarchs comes up with. Unfortunately they do have the power to bend reality to their twisted wills.
What if everyone is on the cloud in the shooter?
Everyone can suffer together, yay
Wanna bring about the next French Revolution, worldwide? Cause that seems like a good way to do it!
Would be cool to play civ5 on a long term server.
I'm thinking something that emails you when its your turn too. Like playing chess over mail.
Isn't that a thing in freeciv, that open source version of civilization?
There is a freeciv? How did i not know this
Yeah, there's a web version of the game if you want to try it out, though it seems to be based on civilization 2 or 3 rather than 5 or 6.
Unciv is based on civ5 and has support for BNW from the mod list.
I believe freeciv is civ 1.
Civ over mail. Physical mail. Like those old mail chess games in the times before online chess (use https://lichess.org/btw <3 ).
Move a scout, wait 3-5 days for the answer.
Interesting. I mean it more in the sense that civ is just a long game regardless, so some async maybe help.
I completed Nier Automata via GeForce Now just fine. Competitive shooters maybe not, but that's just a subset of gaming anyway.
“Sure, you could play good games, but good luck playing garbage.”
Shooters aren’t garbage to people who like them. Different people prefer different games.
I suspect people will just keep their existing equipment running for as long as possible, and secondhand equipment will be worth almost as much as it was when new.
This won't last forever.
I've been waiting for GPU prices to come back down to earth since 2019. I really hope you're right in a few more years.
In between the crypto scams and the AI hype, there was a brief moment of maybe a few months were GPU prices were affordable. Not good, but affordable enough so that normal people could buy them.
Yeah I vaguely remember some xx60 card being somewhat comparable to the 1060 if you counted for inflation for a little while.
I think we're at the point where PCs are an afterthought in the GPU market, and have been for a long time.
I have an 8th gen i7 that's still rocking it, also a 4070 which helps a lot too. Truth be told, I haven't encountered a game I /want/ that requires sky high specs anymore.
If they keep pushing their cloud renting models it will last forever.
Secret ending: you keep playing the huge selection of games we already have, endlessly, forgetting games you played a while ago as you restart one you already forgot.
Edit: currently playing Warhammer 40k: Space Marine. So far it's really fun. It's as if you're playing Doom as a more normal guy.
Good ending for the gamers, bad ending for the devs...
If a dev is good they can make games worth buying with current hardware
Second secret ending: the games you have won't run on your pc.
-someoone who waited 5 years to play fallout 76 after buying it 2 weeks after launch.
I mean, fallout 76 doesn't really fall in the category of games I'd even consider
Real ending: your gpu dies in a year or so and you can no longer play anything ever.
Well damn, I hope it doesn't.
Though, if it does, it would be under warranty, and thankfully I'm not in america so my warranty has a chance to actually be useful
Already did this last year and according to Steam data many others, too.
I have used an Xbox Gamepass trial a few times. Its a good deal honestly, especially if you play a variety of games.
Except its competing with essentially a 40+ year backlog of games I own that Inhave collected over my life. I have zero need for it.
And frankly, its biggest competition is something like HumbleBundle, where you can often get a pile of games per month to keep without the subscriotion.
Maybe this is a good time to visit the hundreds of never-installed games we have in our steam libraries.
Nooo! I won't ruin my pristine collection by playing the games!
Batman Lego just announced it was reducing ram recommendations to 16gb. Its a start
Reducing.. to 16GB?
It's over
a lego game?? when I played lego games circa 2011 AD I didn't know what ram is
Yes, we just had to write the bytes that came up on screen into a book with a pencil, and then type in the contents of whichever page the computer asked for
Lego Star Wars The Complete Collection from 2009 has a minimum RAM requirement of 156MB. Yes, megabytes. 512MB if you're using Vista (God help you)
Just thought I'd point that out.
We're just going to be demaking games incrementally as we scrounge older and older hardware for our mad max gaming PCs until we're playing a text adventure version of Minecraft on a green screen terminal.
> PUNCH TREE
Nethack forever.
3rd ending: Retro gaming makes a massive comeback.
If this happens, there's a good chance companies like Nintendo and Sony will double down on trying to erase emulation as an option. Anyone developing emulators will be targeted (even moreso than they already are), and ROM sites will be taken down making it harder for the average person to find games. Now is a great time to build up an offline ROM collection ahead of this potentially happening in a few years, even if storage is currently expensive.
Sound advice!
Yeah, I would sooner game on a Pi or N150 mini PC than touch fucking cloud gaming. Decade old second hand laptop if necessary.
The other good ending: People learn to disassemble e-waste and reuse stuff instead of throwing them in the trash. Think of all the SSDs, HDDs, and RAM sticks that are thrown out in old laptops and gaming consoles. It would be great to bring more of a reuse, repair, Maguyver, culture back to electronics.
I mean, I'm happy to Maguyver my old laptop, I'm just not sure how much utility that last 8gb of ddr3 will deliver to my £5000 gaming rig
That's fantastic for you that you have a £5000 gaming rig. Not all of us can afford that. A lot of us are still gaming or doing office work or running servers on DDR3 machines.
Unfortunately a lot of secondhand hardware is destroyed. Storage devices due to privacy, other components because corporations are unwilling to expend the man hours needed to sell off perfectly good hardware and instead choose an e-waste recycler they can write off as an expense.
It's lucky that my dad's supplier is sensible about these things, my family has I think 5 refurb Fujitsu laptops at €50 and €70 for the last one. Perfectly fine machines for study, browsing 3D-print terminals, vehicle diagnostics and such daily usage.
The plateau of processing power and modern energy efficiency means far older machines are viable users for years and years.
Wish that happened more often. All these crypto mines or whatever that use massive CPU or GPU power should dump them on the market, but I’ve never seen dumps of low-cost hardware.
The problem is that the crypto miners and AI servers run on purpose-built hardware now that can't be repurposed for gaming.
Yeah, crypto switched to ASIC, but nonetheless there was no cheap hardware dump as they transitioned. And yeah, AI does use regular GPUs, but the consumer versions are used mainly for smaller farms.
You'll need right to repair first.
The first ending has already been happening.
The second ending keeps failing to happen. We've got graveyards full of Cloud Gaming markets. Google Stadia, OnLive, Walmart's cloud service LiquidSky, and various smaller platforms like Vectordash and Bifrost.
stadia people got lucky as they got full refunds on everything after it shut down. what a deal tbh
Plus why would anyone use the expensive ram ssds and gpus to make a datacenter for videogames when they can hop onto the AI hype before it's gone?
plays another 2,000 hours of dwarf fortress
Unironically, yes. Also,ssh nethack@alt.org(or some other server) strongly recommended. My first ascension is still one of my most memorable gaming experiences.
Plays another 666 hours of Doom 2 and all the custom wads. I particularly love Zone 300 and the DSDA Doom engine.
Can't see either of these happening in the near future, TBH. They just failed to make cloud gaming happen after pouring tons of resources into it, but I also just can't believe that companies that make severely unoptimized games are going to change their ways.
That said, most gaming is already on phones, and many of the popular multiplayer games are already running fine on very weak hardware.
If the future of games is barely interactive pay2win slop on smart phones, then I don't want games at all.
(Can someone recommend me non-freemium slop for Android? Any emulators not littered with ads?)
Shattered Pixel Dungeon (roguelike, turn based)
Drastic (ds emulator, not free though)
Peglin (also not free)
Slice and Dice (not free)
TheoTown (haven't played in ages, but I remember it being good)
CDDA is a FOSS game that runs on Android
Threads about free or open-source Android games pop up on /all somewhat regularly, look through those.
Any emulators not littered with ads?
Lemuroid is great and covers many systems, but you can always just install RetroArch on Android too.
Some game houses are actually optimizing their game but it's very few and can be counted on the fingers of a single mutilated hand
I know. The ones who would do it in response to hardware shortages are mostly already doing it anyway. The ones who don't, won't.
I mean, if all new gaming becomes cloud based shit I'm just going to be playing old games on emulators forever, or at least as long as my computer functions. And then when that fails, I'll go back to analog enjoyments.
When I think about it, between emulators and various icon collections I have enough games to last me for the rest of my life. And that's a feeling of being free, not trapped.
I also have to do a shout-out for analog enjoyments. Interacting with the natural world and exercising all of your senses are just straight-up good for you.
My steam library alone is enough to last me a decade probably
I have a harddrive with about 2.7 TB of Ps2 isos. This should be enough for the next 10 years.
Just hope the cost of storage is reasonable when you need a replacement/backup
It's saved in a RAID system so theoretically I can risk one failure and still have a backup. On the other hand, the collection is available as a torrent with an acceptable number of seeders so I should be fine.
Let's hope! Who knows what catastrophic mess the world will be in by then.
Unless you're really chasing the big name games, you don't need that high powered of a rig anymore. Stylized graphics are better than highly realistic, they hold up better and longer. The most intensive game I have bought is STALKER 2 and even then my rig is holding up fine.
Cloud gaming only happens if people break down and pay for it.
But seeing the usage rates of Gamepass, I'm not encouraged.
I think cloud gaming will be picked up because people are sheep already
We already normalized installing malware under the guise of anticheat. Anything goes past this point.
If those Devs could read low level they'd be very upset
4th ending: The AI bubble bursts,AI companies goes bankrupt and RAM,SSD,Gpu and Consoles plummet to normal prices due to the companies selling their stuff.
5th ending: People move on to used/older PCS and Consoles.
6th Ending: People move on to older/simpler Open source/reverse engineered games that runs on Potato hardware.
Unfortunately, you cannot buy gaming gpus, not because AI data centers are buying them, but because Nvidia would rather produce server GPUs than gaming GPUs. Same for memory. Once the AI bubble bursts, there still won't be gaming GPUs to buy unless Nvidia and everyone else switch production, and you cannot put a datacenter GPU in a regular computer.
you cannot put a datacenter GPU in a regular computer.
Bet?
Right? People have been doing crazy shit to make non-ideal hardware work for them pretty much since computing was invented lol
Well, apparently an adapter card costs 80€ on AliExpress. But I'm not sure it will just work, maybe you need to get special drivers from Nvidia or something, and after you have the adapter and the datacenter GPU, you need to fashion your own cooling system for the GPU.
Yeah, also even if you coukd, it will still have the crypto problem. Do you really want a second hand GPU thst has been running full tilt for the laat year nonstop?
thats sucks soo much,i hope its only Nvidia and Crucial right?
It doesn't matter if it's only them. They are the suppliers. So even if, say, Asus would like to sell gaming GPUs at a normal price (which they wouldn't, but let's pretend) they cannot do that because there is no supply, and the little supply of consumer chips left is sold to those that sell GPU at pumped prices and therefor can give more money to the suppliers
then we are soo cooked 🙏
Real answer. Hoard now. Hope what you have lasts until the baking climate kills you.
When the COVID recession started, dairy farmers were seen dumping surplus milk rather than sell it at a lower price. I foresee a version of this where companies start destroying silicon to keep the supply low rather than let the prices drop to sane levels.
Older PCs and consoles are only cheap now because people buy newer stuff.
When the newer stuff becomes prohibitively expensive, old hardware and consoles will SKYROCKET as demand goes up, because nobody is MAKING more.
Hoard tech now. We're not that far away from 2012 laptops going for $500.
Oh I see
4th ending doesn't matter because after the AI bubble pops companies will do mass layoffs to reduce costs and nobody will have the income needed to buy components at normal price. By the time things start to stabilize there'll be some new reason consumers are priced out of the hardware market.
Maybe your right
If big corporation fail to improve their games graphics, then gamers will have to find other criterias to choose what games to buy, like gameplay and actual content.
If anything, it will leave more space for indie games. And larger productions will either stagnate on graphics or start producing more cartoonish content.
Modders to the reacue, like always.
you can just use sodium + lithium + ferritecore and whatever other optimization mods you like for a much better speedup and no loss in quality at all
Yes, those are also examples of modders making improvements to games.
Or they use upscaling as a crutch even harder and we get narratives that include your character having frosted glass for eyes to make up for the blur.
I have said for a long time that I both want realistic video distortion in games instead of the usual color aberration and high-res fake pixel effects (like the stuff you see on fpv drone videos and unclassified military footage of a 420x zoom from the stratosphere and so on), and not want it, because it gives me a headache
Personally, I only want the realisitic video distortion effects if I am looking at a video screen in the game. I thought Outlast did pretty good with it for the time. All those camera effects were limited to the screen on your camera or in-world CRT TVs, while what you saw through your eyes was more consistent with reality (not realistic but you hopefully get what I mean here).
We need to turn this law into an electron app.
Oberon... A2... rabbit hole alert i'm out!
Google appropriating the concept to rename it after one of their C suits is the most Google shit ever.
Alternative outcomes:
Gaming bifurcates.
Indies and certain AAs aim for the 'good ending', realize fancy graphics are not only harder to produce, but you're actually just shooting yourself in the foot in terms of potential customers.
AAA on the other hand continues to double down and enshittify, figure out new ways to turn gaming into leasing and renting.
... but, as always, mostly marketing, ad campaigns, paying off "journalists" and "influencers".
3rd potential outcome:
Something akin to lan parties/netcafes/arcades recurs.
Rent out a space, run a local to global network solution and also a miniature rendering farm.
All the actual PCs (or maybe VR headsets) are connected to cheap, thin client local machines that are then networked to the mini rendering farm.
4th potential outcome:
... nobody can actually stop people from emulating or running old, good games. 'Piracy' becomes as normalized in many other parts of the world as it is in Russia currently.
I grew up in Russia and it's sometimes so mindboggling that people don't know their way around digital piracy. It may sound bad, but I actually think that it's the only thing that can keep the market healthy. I pay for games, movies, books and whatever else there is purely because I like them. And if I don't like the content you made, you are getting no money. If I have to pay for it before judging it's value, what insentive does the producer of the content have to make it actually good?
See I just grew up as poor white trash in the US.
I guess just more technically inclined than much of my fellow white trash?
But yeah, exactly... why pay for something you can get for free, safely, if you know what you are doing?
You do it because you either really, really want to support a particular game or developer, or, as Steam/Valve has been saying for like 20 years now... because the version that you are paying for is actually substantially better, is substantially easier to access.
Basically, if official market prices are so high that the risk and hassle of using a gray or black market is less than the differential between gray/black market price snd official price... you use the gray/black market.
This is a pretty well understood concept in actual, academic economics, but in the US we have an insanely corpo/finance slanted public representstion of what 'economics' even is.
If the fundamental framework of IP laws and market practices is inherently biased against the consumer... obviously, people are going to broadly not like that, and other people are going to just skirt around them...
The main difference between the US and Russia in say, the 90s, is that everyone in the US knew they were destined to become a millionaire (economy doing quite well) where in Russia, things were just generally being gutted and sold for scrap, under the table (economy doing quite bad).
Its the Always Sunny in Philly scene, oh you're new poor, its easy to tell... see, we're old poor, we know how to do this.
I'd say there is a reasonable likelihood that the broad, ongoing economic collapse of living standards for 90% of Americans will lead to a cultural tone shift.
What is the Russian term, schmekalka, something like that?
Basically: Coming up with an improvised solution based on what you already have, as opposed to figuring out how to buy some new thing for the task?
A lot of the US is going to have to think a lot more like that, otherwise they'll just become literal debt slaves.
Like, shit, I still refuse to pay for any fixed location internet plan that charges for datacap, data limits. This is now common and widespread in the US, but is completely bullshit and unjustifiable from an actual 'what does this cost the ISP' perspective.
We largely lost that fight over a decade ago, but I'm still pissed about it.
I see secondhand hardware and indie devs winning out. I see local AI suffering too. Almost as if they're trying to keep it to themselves.
Why would they ever do that?
What do you mean by 'local AI suffering'?
Did you mean to say 'surviving'?
As in small, less capable, but still potentially useful when used in sane ways... people doing more of that?
Like, the fundamental problem with the idea of local AI dying out as a thing... is that most of the Chinese developed models are developed under a much more open souce type of paradigm.
Its not 100% open source, but its way more open source than than US corpo models.
So... anybody can still download an run one of those.
I've had Qwen3-8B working on my Steam Deck for around a year now. Not super fast, but it does work, and... a Steam Deck is not exactly a juggernaut of GPU compute power.
Anybody with a modern laptop could figure it out.
I've tried a number of local models and even the 8b models aren't that good. Unless there's some insane breakthrough, much better hardware will be required to get the kind of results that would be timely enough or high quality enough to be useful.
So it might drive the kind of performance enhancement that will be needed to truly democratize and make the technology accessible, but until then more performance is needed.
My 2024 laptop has basically increased $800 or so in price because of the buy ups. This will either drive optimization or kill progress or maybe some of each on a continuum.
<foil hat time>I also firmly believe that part of the storage and ram buy-up was intended to make higher end compute further out of reach of us plebs, forcing us further into the “everything as a service" model and that corporate AI is a big bet that they can lay off even more people </foil hat time>
That said, if you found good results with qwen, 8b, dm me a link for the specific model, I'd love to try it. I'm still a hobbyist. 😁
I use the Alpaca flatpak, it just lets you download a variety of models, manages them all inside a contained local environment.
Even has some tools support that is expanding, basic web searches, speech to text, text to speech... and if you can find a GGUF format model, supposedly Alpaca can run this manually, and there's a good deal on huggingface.
https://github.com/Jeffser/Alpaca
Unfortunately, if you're running Windows, I... have no clue how to set up an LLM there.
Also your tin foil hat thing isn't even tin foil hat.
Like, various people in the AI space have outright stated that they want to see a paradigm where everyone just rents compute time from them because PCs are othereise too expensive, while acting like it just happens to be the new reality that everything is so expensive, for some reason.
Nvidia went from gaming GPUs being about 50% of its business to something more like 5%, in about 5 years.
Fortunately the AI bubble will be popping soon, as ... everyone has run out of money to lend.
Unfrotunately this will destroy the economies of the West.
Yay capitalism!
For the moment, I haven't had the motivation to switch everything over to Linux, but it is coming down the line. To that end, I do know how to set up models and windows, and it's not all that hard, but what is the specific model name? Is it just the Quen 8b?
Come to think of it, I might actually be able to install the flat pack into the Windows subsystem for Linux if it behaves the way I think it's supposed to.
Could be a very interesting experiment.
Well, if you're coming from a Windows packground, a flatpak is roughly, to the user at least, similar to an exe.
You download a flatpak, install it, blingo blango it has its own environment that is essentially sandboxed, as it pulls in its own dependencies and such.
But, you'll need to either go with a linux distro that comes with flatpak support pre-configured, or, set up flatpak support on a different distro.
Once you've got either of those, there are free app 'stores' for flatpak that make it extremely simple to browse, download, install a flatpak program.
Then you just click, download Alpaca, run it, and its got a menu, add new models, search through what it has access to, "Qwen 3", 8b parameter variant, download, then use it.
I am personally using Bazzite at the moment, I used to use a bunch of Debian, variants of Debian (Ubuntu, PopOS), have futzed around with Arch and even Void... Bazzite is so far the happy medium I've found between stability, extensibility, and also being pretty close to cutting edge in terms of driver updates and kernel updates.
If you wanna try WSL (which is named backwards, but whatever), I... I have no idea what you'd have to do to get flatpaks working... on... Windows... but if you think you can, best of luck!
Lol. I needed more motivation to switch from windows with virtual Linux to Linux with virtual windows. That helped! Thanks💛
Happy to help! =D
There are so many indie games and older PC titles, that it is not really an issue.
Most cloud gaming is pretty hit or miss. Playstation's seems particularly bad when I've used it, Xbox is fine, but GeForce now was really good for me (I have a decent connection at home). Nvidia, who also is helping cause this pricing issue, basically killed their own product by adding this arbitrary monthly limit of 100 hours.
Listen you dinguses, the type of person willing to pay over 20 bucks a month for your highest tier service, when you still have to own the games to play them, are going to want to use it for more than 3 hours a day.
I bought a better computer instead, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They don't care if the service is good or not because the days of companies actually competing for customers are rapidly coming to a close.
If they can drive the private hardware market into extinction, then they become the only option.
Worst ending: Devs continue chasing higher graphical settings, consoles continue to release but at much higher price points to cover these costs. Cloud gaming also becomes much more expensive to afford the infrastructure. Gaming becomes less accessible to everyone except the wealthy.
"Gamers finally rise up" scenario
Devs continue chasing higher graphical settings
What, "higher"? The games don't look better, they are just more poorly optimized now.
"We are now modeling the subsurface scattering of each individual hair. Each hair has a unique texture"
ohh don't worry, once they sort it out on PC, cloud console gaming 2.0 is on it's way.
Ah I don't care anymore. Gamers complain about performance and prices all the time but still buy it.
These games exist and are becoming more common because they make more profit.
Yep, every time the industry does something heinous gamers have a cry and then just bend over and lube their asses.
Right, as evidenced by the Stop Killing Games movement getting over a million EU citizens to do a direct democracy, all on a shoestring budget, setting up multiple NGOs to counter lobby gaming lobbyists, and pursuing a broad swath of legal avenues to secure better consumer rights and/or actually have existing consumer protection laws actually be enforced, around the planet.
Oh, wait, no, thats nothing like just whining and then acquiescing.
Sure, yeah, there are a lot of hypocritical whiners.
But there's also a lot of people who are a bit more serious.
Everyone complains about traffic, yet still buy cars all the time.
An individual's inability to alter the structural conditions that shape their decision making is not an indictment of said individual position on the matter. Hence why "vote with your wallet" is such a bad thought terminating phrase.
Sure, people can vote with their wallets, but if there are no good options then the point is moot. It turns into a no buy, disenfranchising those without the privilege of previously accumulating a collection of games. It pushes them into the "you are not a real gamer anyway" territory.
Thus, why it is always ethical to pirate video games. It is the only sensible choice for a have not. And it is the only choice left when "vote with your wallet" means there's nothing ethical to buy.
Yeah that's a fair point, but I think you misunderstand me. I am advocating for piracy.
(Also slightly butthurt they are blaming the devs)
Here's my conspiracy theory; as local gen ai is closing in on cloudmodels even on modest gaming hardware they need to phase it out to make subscriptions pay. So they buy more hardware than they need to make local a nonviable way
If I can’t play games I might have to get into politics to amuse myself. The trick is to get others to foot the bill for your hobby.
Second Gaming Crash
Wait, what was the first gaming crash?
The Atarri one, except there were multiple smaller crashes in gaming history plus effects of the economy on the gaming market.
The mini-crashes include:
- American home computer bubble burst of 1983-84
- Some British game publishers go bankrupt, then immediately their former employees form new companies
- Game developers betting big on MMO style games, only for them to realize no one wants to rent their games
- Paid smartphone games falling out of favor due to pay2win slop
Oh, yeah, Atari would have been before my time, so don't feel so bad about not thinking of that one.
I figured it was in reference to the MMO craze dying down, but that felt more like a strong speed bump than a crash.
- The video game industry effectively collapsed entirely.
There were something like 14 major console systems on the market, all incompatible with each other. None had decent quality control for the games. At the same time home computers were starting to be a thing so the hobby money started going in that direction.
In sum that caused an effectively total collapse of the industry in the USA. It took until the late 80s for the market to start to recover when Nintendo released a new console. Notably, this console was not marketed as a game console – it was the Family Computer in Japan and the Nintendo Entertainment System (with a shell deliberately styled like a VCR) in the West.
Several major companies left the market (like Magnavox or Coleco) or were unable to compete when the market recovered (Atari).
What OS runs wonderfully on old hardware?
Linux or BSD based OSes.
Mint
I run Debian 13 on my 13 year old Thinkpad. It’s perfect for my uses.
Ya I run the latest Debian on some old surplus office machine. Might be dell. Runs great. Got SSD so it's lightning
devs are not in control of pc optimization, it is their bosses. plus idont think this ai thing is gonna write fast code...
SSD prices really pisses me off. I use those for work as an independent and regularly need new ones, and the ones I usually get have gone up like crazy!
I need the other stuff for work too but for now my rig is chugging along so I'm not feeling that yet.
When, not if, the AI bubble pops, they will have all these server farms built and will want to push people to cloud gaming to recoup some of their investments
My view about this shortage is european company won't be able to take back their data from US Cloud.
Or a stockpile of ram so they can step back and let china fuck taiwan
But the honest answer is they're coked up monkeys doing stupid shit because $$$
Will we really have more performant games? Are game companies going to invest in an opensource game engine to pool their talent and make the most performant game engine out their that makes the most performant games?
It's way more likely they'll try and sell us yet another SaaS product or even better, an AI product that guzzles a cubic metre per request.
Or the AI bubble pops and we get a LOT of very cheap, very good hardware. It's actually a very good reason to make pop happen.
I wish, but even if they sell everything, none of the parts of usable for most gamers or people. Most of the Nvidia stuff being pushed into data centres are rack scale devices. Furthermore the GPUs that are in AI racks are super application specific and don’t have the proper frame buffers you’d need to play video games, nor actual video outputs.
As for the platform itself, The RAM is almost all RDIMM ECC, on proprietary motherboard form factors, with vendor locked CPUs.
Even worse, they all know this is a bubble and are putting the lowest effort into the data centers. This machines are being built with very loose tolerances and short useful lifespans. Most of it will malfunction in less than five years. It's such a massive waste of resources.
Damn, it doesn’t surprise me but internally I’m hoping that is limited to the AI specific hardware (the GPUs or network PCI backplanes). I actually run some enterprise stuff at home and I could make use of the RDIMMs lol.
Except this POP! will destroy the economy. So you still won't be able to afford anything...
Nah. The part of the economy that doesn't use AI will take a hit, but will be mostly fine.
They are going to make PC out of reach for common folk and force us to pay a monthly subscription for computing power.