U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
3mon 16d ago by lemmy.world/u/postmateDumbass in world from jonathanlarsen.substack.com
A combat-unit commander told non-commissioned officers at a briefing Monday that the Iran war is part of God’s plan and that Pres. Donald Trump was “anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,” according to a complaint by a non-commissioned officer.
From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).
The complaints came from more than 40 different units spread across at least 30 military installations, the MRFF told me Monday night.
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People like this are literally going to cause the end of the human race with their “beliefs”. We have a bunch of religious fanatics killing at the behest of a demented pedophile and his genocidal buddy.
Religion is a cancer.
There was a really interesting article posted the other day about the Antichrist. Religious folks are really wacky.
That's a very interesting article but does 2019 qualify as "the other day"?
They probably meant it was posted on lemmy the other day, not that the article was released the other day.
Lol! I didn't even look at the date. It was posted in another instance just yesterday or the day before...I can't remember which.
*Insert Saving Private Ryan Meme here*
Those were better times ...
America is cancer
Yeah definitely no religious fruitcakes in any other parts of the world.
At what point does it become socially acceptable to say to these people, “Fuck your god”?
I'm not sure when that point was but it's solidly in the past.
Someone needs to interrupt these fucking monsters and tell them nobody cares about their imaginary friends
Since the creation of the "God hates gays" picket signs. Probably before then.
A little before that, i think? Maybe since The Crusades?
They are not religious people. Unless you take paedophillia as a form of religion. I mean, they seem to have been in some crazy paedocult.
Of Catholicism isn't a pedocult idk what is
I would never conclude something as reductive as this, but certainly, the Catholic church won't get any apologetic comment from me.
Religion can certainly be problematic but I think its worth bringing up how monotheism specifically acts as a mind virus at its worst. It's inherently exclusivist and closed minded, priming people to see those that don't believe in their god as not human and can even act as justification to bring pain, suffering and death upon nonbelievers. It's also inherently centralized and authoritarian which is why it to works synergistically with oppressive forms of governence.
Polytheism is riddled with mystical thinking but, generally, beleiving in more than one god makes it more difficult to use it as a justification to hurt people that don't believe in your god. By having a wide variety of divinities it is naturally decentralized.
Christianity wiped out Roman polytheism with relative ease and ushered in a millenia long dark age. Politicians/Rulers of long past and even today recognize the coercive and unifying power of monotheism and are often keen to wield it to stamp out dissent and concentrate power.
Monotheism is also effective at priming people to accept autocracy. If you believe in one supreme all knowing deterministic god then it's not that hard to believe in a human ruler wield absolute power as god's chosen one.
Democracy and monotheism in many way incompatible phiosophies. It's why the Greeks, South Asian and indigineous confederacies were able to arrive at democractic systems at various periods in history (they were not monotheist) and also why the West had to institute seperation of church and state to become democratic.
I say this not to disparage spirituality as a whole. I personally have been made better by it and believe that it's core to the human experience but acknowledge that some do not feel a need for it. What we need to be wary of is monotheism. It has brought great civilizations to ruin and promotes conformity of thought which stifles human ingenuity.
These people are mentally ill
And they hold power.
Correction, the people that hold power are cynical bastards that are playing these mentally ill evangelicals and other religious crazies.
Actually, a fair number of those that hold power are high on their own supply. They’re just also smart enough to use that supply to manipulate others too.
Religion literally is a set of persistent delusions, if you go by psychological definitions, that do not have a specific carve out for religious beliefs.
All religions are cults that just got really popular and/or lasted for a long time.
Neurotypicals will blame anything on illness rather than admit they too are capable of systemic evil.
Trump is mentally ill.
And liberals will blame everything on the figurehead rather than admit the system is what the system does.
SOME liberals. MOST liberals know the system is fucked. We just can't fix it because there is a disease in America that, rather than fighting it, we feed it. It's called billionaires oligarchs. It's form of societal cancer. These leeches feed on the work done by others - just look at Musk and Bezos...these c#nts are total parasites who provide no valuable service with their own hands. They're less productive than middle management...but, they figured out the system...who to fuck when...literally or figuratively. They used that knowledge yo build a cult of personality. You want to fix this system...destroy the cancer that's killing it. Until then? You're just blowing smoke, my friend. This system isn't getting fixed while certain men live. I'm NOT calling for violence, so MODS, pay attention. The cancer can be removed without violence. It'll be harder...but it can be done.
The world doesn't fit into smart quips and summaries.
You speak too broadly to be considered serious.
And fake progressives will blame everything on (((the system))) rather than admit that their cynicism is a self fulfilling prophecy.
Jesus fuck can these arseholes just get raptured already ..
They're trying to, and they want to take us all with them.
MAGA seem to be on a one way ticket to Jonestown and they are happy to take all of us with them.
The rapture already happened, that’s why people are calling themselves Christians but never actually following Christ’s teachings. The actual believers are long gone.
The actual believers are long gone.
All three of them!
It was a very small event on November 3, 1973. Interestingly one of the three raptured made big news, but it was covered up. He was a pilot.
I don't know if you hinted on this, but the story is wild:
A passenger on National Airlines Flight 27 was blown out of the window of an airplane at an altitude of 39,000 feet (12,000 m) over the U.S. state of New Mexico, after the number 3 engine on the Douglas DC-10-10, exploded and fragments penetrated the fuselage. The jet had been en route from Houston to Las Vegas when the accident happened at 4:40 in the afternoon, and made a safe emergency landing in Albuquerque, New Mexico. According to the subsequent NTSB investigation, the cockpit voice recorder showed that the engine explosion happened immediately after the first officer asked the captain "Wonder— wonder if you pull the N1 tach will that— autothrottle respond to N1?" and the captain replied, "Gee, I don't know." The first officer then said "You want to try it and see?" Thirty-four seconds later, the explosion happened. An extensive search was unable to locate the passenger, machinist George F. Gardner of Beaumont, Texas, who had been sitting by the window in seat 17F.
I read the Wikipedia article and it looks like the NTSB concluded that conversation and the subsequent "test" they did were inconclusive as the root cause of the engine failure. That specific engine had numerous problems reported prior to the flight and had been taken off and replaced before having even more reported after. It seems to be just coincidental. What's just as wild to me is that the passenger that was ejected from the plane was even wearing his seatbelt. Explosive decompression still said nuh uh and ripped him out the window.
I was actually talking about Pan Am flight 160 the same day. This would have been a better story. Wow, that's crazy. Looks like 2 of them made the news.
It turns out that Harambe is the only who got raptured.
Is this dude on substack a legitimate source? Honest question. We live in the times of lies
I have similar concerns.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation demands that all personnel in the Department of Defense (not “War") remember and fully internalize that the oaths they swear are not to the narcissistic, sociopathic, orange, POS tRump, nor to little Petey ‘Kegseth' nor to Jesus Christ.
This made me think that MRFF might not be reporting objectively about this
That, and the MRFF site uses AI generated photographs, which always makes me question the veracity of everything associated with it. It's not an unbelievable claim for me, I've been hearing people call for holy war since 9/11, but the way it's being presented is setting off all kinds of red flags.
It just feels like I'm eating the onion here.
You’re not wrong, but the only thing there that’s not arguably correct is calling hegseth little and I guess misspelling his name.
I‘m not seeing mention of this on the MRFF site.
According to the authors profile he's worked at a bunch of known places in the past
I've heard of a bunch of known places....
"I’m an independent journalist whose reporting is made possible by reader support. As a former executive producer at MSNBC, I helped create Up w/ Chris Hayes and previously was a senior producer on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann."
What are you looking for? Direct quotes? This has been the MO for decades
Guess who Canada buys arms from?
Canada needs to arm ourselves.
Against a military with a $T budget?
Oh well, when you put it like that maybe we should just roll over and bite the pillow then
That seems to be the answer for everything on this site. I left reddit because I didn't like all of the doom scrolling, nihilistic, bullshit posts, yet they're here too now.
I'm convinced it's part of state sponsored propaganda and influence campaigns. The tactic is to always belittle any idea, frame everything as pointless, and divide opposition.
So many comments like, "if you can't even get people to go vote, how do you think they'll resist?"
I'm tired of it. I think the only way to combat it is to set up heavily moderated areas where cynicism is flagged and removed. But man, even that's a slippery slope, to easy for mods to take over to enforce discussion only around what they want.
But however it's going to be done, I want people ready to act. And stop with this cynical, defeatist BS.
Exactly. And ideas don't have to be perfect to be functional. Or at least a good starting point.
Cynicism seems smart even when it's not. That seems to be the way it works, and I think I read it's been shown scientifically.
I'm deeply cynical in the ancient meaning of the term (and not in the ancient literal meaning of living like a dog): based on long experience, I am convinced that people are largely motivated by their (self-perceived) self-interest. I've met a few people with other motivations, but they're prominent in my memory because of their rarity.
But that doesn't mean I'm checked out: I just know that there's a continuing struggle to counter that pro-nihilist brainwashing.
For big decisions, it always boils down to MICE. Money, identity, coercion and ego. One can think of exceptions, but you basically have to look at medical pathologies.
For little decisions, what about empathy? People will genuinely show it when confronted by something on the spot.
Beat me to it. I would love to have some place where I could go without having to read anything about US related.
I dont mind the presence of these articles. I like to be in the know. I like the opportunity to engage in a constructive nuanced discussion that you can no longer find on Reddit, and can be found in abundance on Lemmy.
What effects me most is that, whether honest (human), not (bots) or covert (intelligence agencies), the defeatism, acceptance and obeyance in advance is the fundamental barrier to meaningful change. It catches, it spreads and it demoralises. It is the boot on our collective necks.
We need to be more mindful of spreading our nihilism to each other, unless we're happy being part of the problem. More solutions, more raising each other up, less wallowing.
the usual “absolutely nothing can be done except armed insurrection”
That might be where we have to go. But even that will fail without solidarity, organization and clear ideas of what will replace the current, evil and corrupt system.
It's not even just US related subjects though. There was just a post the other day about physical media(photos, dvds, etc.) and I posted a comment detailing pricing out a local NAS so you can backup your shit to it(because physical media can get destroyed) and replies I got were the whole "digital stuff can get destroyed too", "ransomware", "it's about the experiences! you can't have that with digital!", "prices are CRAZY for computer stuff!"(even though I linked products at reasonable prices and people said it isn't that price anymore, CLICK THE LINK DUMBASS!).
And it's all an asinine argument because you can DO BOTH. Have your physical photos AND back them up digitally.
It's all or nothing with some people and it's infuriating. It feels like I'm arguing with children over ice cream flavors. Yeah, chocolate is good, but I prefer strawberry and then it devolves into "CHOCOLATE ONLY FOR EVERYONE!".
Stupid either/or thinking seems to be getting increasingly prevalent. I think it's being promoted to train us to not think in a nuanced, resilient way. It's like their goal is learned pseudo-autism.
It's definitely aimed at promoting learned helplessness.
Make the USA bleed for every centimeter of land. Get even the MAGAts to be tired of the significant losses they reconsider. This didn't stop with Venezuela and won't stop with Iran. If the USA starts coming to the negotiating table you strike first. Because we just showed we cannot be trusted at all.
This didn’t stop with Venezuela and won’t stop with Iran.
Very little has actually changed in Venezuela, besides some manipulation of the oil market.
Here's the thing. Regardless of where Trump is attacking, the US can inflict state terror by aerial bombardment, which is costly in money terms but doesn't lead to many US casualties. But if the goal is actual regime change, rather than just destruction of infrastructure and a high civilian body count, that requires occupation. Boots on the ground lead to high casualties and Americans coming home in body bags. So far, Trump hasn't gone there, because (despite his incompetence, narcissism and greed) he is also very concerned about his popularity.
As opposed to what?, taking on the largest military force in world history with a few guns, a dozen fighter jets?
Not you of course, other people.
It would be a slaughter and the US would be done day one by lunch. This is reality, not Hollywood.
Fucking Toronto collapsed into depression and inactivity two weeks into COVID lockdowns.
People the world over have been showing that a huge military budget can be fought with guerilla tactics for decades. Canada absolutely can resist the US.
Finland won the winter war outnumbered 100 to 1
Worked for Afghanistan. No one thinks that we have a chance in a conventional warfare scenario, and we absolutely don't, which is why we will not make it a conventional warfare scenario. It will be an insurgency where everyone looks just like them. And that insurgency will 100% spread south.
Pretty sure our military budget is higher than Al-Qaeda's.
Worked for Afghanistan.
Ignorant comment. 176,000 Afghanis died and they are still at war. This thread is a bunch of clueless keyboard warriors.
I believe they're talking of the Russia-Afghan war not the USA-Afghan war. But if you think many lives wouldn't be lost under occupation you're obviously not arguing with a full deck.
Yeah, not OP, but I'm well aware of how much it would suck. This should be plan Z. It's still an important one, though.
That's not how budgets work. The US has a massive air carrier fleet where do you think they got that from did it just spring into existence no they paid for it.
the world is using moving away from using the US dollar as the world's default currency. They're not going to have unlimited amounts of money for much longer.
Thats also the reason why they could get bankrupt. USA is doing Hitlers war economy at this point. Get loan for war, rob other countries (in this case oil) and try to pay off the debt.
We will see if this will work out in the end... I do not know much about state financials, but this seems insane to me: https://www.usdebtclock.org/
They’re not going to have unlimited amounts of money for much longer.
unless they invade other countries and take it. See Venezuela.
"Taking" Venezuala cost us money and won't net a profit for decades, if ever. GTFO with your doomerism BS, bot!
So you just pointed out the reason why you SHOULDN'T capitulate. Because you'll just be another piggy bank that the USA will bleed dry too for endless wars. Then you'll be worse off than the average USA citizen.
They haven't taken anything. The US oil companies have zero interest in Venezuela primarily because setting up operations would be prohibitively expensive.
Cost benefit analysis is a thing and the Trump administration are far too stupid to be able to cope with it. Essentially it may not actually be worth exploiting another country, this being a concept that Trump cannot understand because he has the brain of a chronically depressed fruit fly.
Partisan warfare. They need to train as many people as possible and arm them. Have a ready made resistance force.
This is also why all information sharing on Canadians to the Americans must stop.
Yeah, but it's run by absolute morons. All the guns in the world won't stop you from shooting yourself in the foot.
What budget? It's all just debt.
a budget indebted of chinese, arab, russian, etc. holders of U.S. dollars and assets? have you tried to wake up a little?
Running the country into military debt is how the US broke down the Soviet Union.
How much of that $1T is actually translating into anything useful on the battlefield, versus lining Trump cronies' pockets? And how many of the expensive systems that are actually purchased are vulnerable to attacks by cheap drones or other asymmetric tactics?
We just have to be at least as strong as the Taliban, if it comes to that.
I suppose Franch and Poland shoulda done the same.
Even the Bible says no human will know the hour or the day.
Who an I kidding, no one involved here read the Bible.
The Bible also says life begins at the first breath and has instructions for an abortion ritual.
It's okay lots of people who believe in God believe they can trick god.
When I reflect back on my evangelical upbringing this always stands out. Somehow they think their omnipotent deity can be tricked by a loophole in his own rules which in and of itself would at least prove he’s not omnipotent
"Ah that rascal put it in her butt, ah well have fun kids."
My evangelical parents got wrapped up in this line of thinking in the 90s right around the time teenage me was becoming disillusioned with the indoctrination I’d been raised in. Classic “end of the Millennium” fears and the hope they could jumpstart Armageddon convinced them to send money to Christian charities who supposedly then paid to move poor Jewish people in former Soviet states to Israel. Sure God was going to destroy the Earth in 10000 years, but oops, guess y’all forced his hand!
You should check out the book Hell is a World Without You.
It’s not gonna change your world or anything but with that upbringing you’ll really enjoy it
There’s a story I heard from Judaism, where the rabbis were arguing about whether god was cool with something or not. One rabbi was against all of the other rabbis, and asked god to prove him right. God personally spoke up, and was like “yeah, he’s entirely correct” - but the rabbis end up telling off god. They point out that they only have the rules he sent down to work with, and having to call him for help every time they need a ruling wouldn’t be fair or reasonable.
It happens in many faiths. Jewish people are famous for arguing god's law and finding loopholes. I used to work with a Palestinian guy, who grew up in Jordan. He told me that it was relatively common for a group of men to put liquor in a teapot and drink it out of teacups so god didn't notice.
While that's true, it did give a year. We're just over 180 years past that particular year.
I'm referring to a specific timeline set out in numbers that most Christians totally ignore, especially apocalyptic Christians.
The Jehovah's witnesses were set up specifically because of this prophecy, and even they decided he was late by the end of the 1800s
most Christians totally ignore
There's almost certainly a reason. I can't google fu the verse but if you find it please lmk.
I'd imagine the answer to why it's not generally accepted can be found by comparing translations. Likely it's the King James or one of the less colloquial ones being 'misinterpreted' to suggest a timeframe. But I am speculating here.
The main reason is that it is really obscure. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: yeah, I'm not finding it. It basically says that from the time of the last great census of Jerusalem there would be a certain number of days (days mean years in this part of Numbers.) until the firmament was restored, referring to the Messiah, another number of days before it would be shattered, referring to his death, and a third number of days before the glory of God would appear. When you do the math, those years become 5BCE, 27CE, and 1844CE
That's what leads me to believe you read it in a specific translation. Old English does a lot of heavy lifting for those revelations folks.
Could be, I dunno. I'm not Christian, but my parents sent me to Catholic school because it had better rates of higher education among its graduates than the local public school. The Catholics took me not being a Christian personally and only let me read the Bible. So I read it, and started confronting priests and religion teachers with questions they couldn't answer because I'm an obstinate little shit like that.
I went to a protestant private school, and a bit of a looney one at that. (Charismatic Christianity)
So like you're 100% certain it was in the book of numbers? IIRC Catholics have other books protestants don't. "Deuterocanonical (Apocrypha) Books google says "
I'm certain it wasn't in the apocrypha that's a separate book at least at the school I went to. I am certain it was Old Testament, and not New Testament. Other than that, I'm pretty sure it was one of the books that got separated into parts I and II, but I couldn't tell you if it was the first or second part.
I got turned onto that particular passage by a Baha'i I was talking to outside of the school, now that I think about it. They used it as proof that Christ had already returned and the Christians missed it as hard as the Jews missed their Messiah.
The verse I am referring to is in numbers it gives the last great census of Jerusalem as the starting year. It says x number of years would pass before the firmament was restored, referring to the Messiah, y number of years before the firmament would be shattered, referring to his death, and z number of years before the glory of God would appear.
We know when that census occured. When you do the math those years are 5BCE, 27CE, and 1844CE.
it did give a year
Source?
Googling seems to indicate it did no such thing.
Former Christian here: I can confirm that no verse directly specifies a date. However Revelations folk are a special breed.
The best one I can find is the 7000 year old earth theory.
Basically it hinges off Genisis saying Man lives for 120 years, and if you multiply that by the amount of Jubilee years (every 50 years in Hebrew tradition) you get 6000. 4000 till Jesus, 2000, till his return, 1000 years of sabbath. Than god will remake the heavens and the earth. For a total of 7000.
It's a bunch of conjecture that would make biblical numerologists proud.
It's somewhere in Numbers. There's a prophecy that refers to the last great census of Jerusalem. It refers to time in days, but had previously mentioned that days in this context refer to years. There would be a certain number of years before the Messiah would appear, though they use a flowery title to refer to him, and another number of years before he would be struck down. It then goes on to say that he would return after X number of years. If you do the math, those years come out to 5BC, 27CE, and 1844CE.
Ah yes The Great Disappointment
Not clear what makes this particular set of assumptions about how some numbers might be the date of apocalypse any more special than the many, many others, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Also started The Baha'is who don't seem to be disappointed at all.
What could be worse than incompetent, racist lunatics? Incompetent, racist lunatics that are also religious fanatics.
All religious fanatics are incompetent, racist lunatics.
You forgot to mention the whole dictator plans, that's the pressing concern here.
The fascism almost means less when you acknowledge that they are literally trying to destroy the world, well, other than that's how they plan to do it. But that's what they're trying to do, destroy the world with fire like "god" said "he" would do. They are trying to force "god's" hand by lining up all the prerequisites from their fucking fairytale. Religion is the worst cancer on the planet.
Really wish these death cults would get on with it and leave the rest of us the fuck out of it.
"No one knows the day or the hour except for my Father. And this orange pedophile who shits himself. That's gonna make sense in a few thousand years." - Jesus, probably.
So they admit that Trump is the Antichrist?
I've been saying for a while now that the biggest threat facing humanity isn't climate change but religion. By far.
At least these psychopathic Christian evangelical Zionists are being honest about their goals. They want the Rapture or end of the world because they think that forcing ww3 will make Jesus return. This is why Christian evangelicals support Israel no matter how depraved their policies because they believe they will start ww3 and that’s what they want. Christian nationalism is dangerous. It’s been bad for a long time and people like Mike Huckabee have been working towards this goal for decades. We used to regard these people as crazy but now we put all the crazies and narcissists in charge and that’s why everyone sane is depressed with crippling anxiety.
This is what cultists do when they see their reckoning coming. Rev Jones made his followers drink Kool aid (flavor aid actually) when US Senators visited and found he was keeping people against their will. Trump and his crazies will do the same. Remember ... Trump could have just been impeached, or not elected in the first place.
(flavor aid actually)
Couldn't even be bothered to splurge on the good stuff on the way out. Bet he skimped on the sugar as well.
No, MAGA doesn't have the "embrace of death" ideology that much. I feel they're trying to "score points" with Jesus by simply killing as many "undesirables" as they can get their hands on, and some MIGHT kill themselves when they realize He ain't coming back.
There is no way MAGA actually believe in any decent version of religion.
Don't forget his people fucking shot the senator and his people. He knew it was over after that.
God is all powerful. Also, God needs you to commit war crimes to win this illegal war that he really wants to win. Like, you're the only way he can win this war. Do it for our all powerful God.
Why does God need a starship?
I'd like this "god" to come down and say it themselves. Thanks.
Best I could find:
https://theonion.com/god-angrily-clarifies-dont-kill-rule-1819566178/
If god is all powerful, why does he need any amount of humans to do shit for him? Do it yourself, you omnilazy bastard.
Religious people are so easy to manipulate lol
How they don't see it, when their "pastors" are driving Porsches and living in manions while telling you if you don't skip a meal so that you can donate to the church you're gonna go to hell... it's beyond me.
I really hope this photo is real.
It's not. Or at least it's not a recent picture.
Proof: https://old.reddit.com/r/AngryCops/comments/1pj5ywm/angrymemereview/"submitted 2 months ago"
And most probably was AI slop also back then.
Slop gonna cost elections
How is that link proof of anything?
It doesn't matter anyways. If the Whorehouse can use AI to prove trump is a viral young soccer player, we can also use AI to prove he's an unstable maciac who screams at Kegsbreath everyday.
Nothing is real, everything is permitted.
How is that link proof of anything?
I don't understand your question. Can you elaborate? Are you implying that reddit fakes submission dates to protect Trump?
I don’t understand your question.
I'm not really surprised.
Did you just double down on your obvious mistake? Impressive firmness! Very good!
Tiny hands confirmed
he looks like matt gaetz.
Yay! Death cult is doing death cult things!
People still underestimate the role of christian fundamentalism in this ongoing trainwreck. When you have a religious institution whose image of God is quite literally an abusive father, who all worship power above all else, whose church policies are to spread as far and wide as possible and systematically "train"(ie., abuse) their own children into actively seeking out every position of power possible to force their worldview onto everyone - it was only a matter of time before this all happened.
These are people who genuinely believe the war on terror is a holy war. Their entire social network is meticulously designed to draw a dichotomy between themselves (apart from the world), vs everyone else (the worldly), to isolate their own against outside views, and indoctrinate their children throughout their entire lives to vigorously proselytize on the one hand, and be ready to eliminate anyone who opposes their worldview on the other. And many of them are bloodthirsty.
Imagine being sent to the other side of the world so you can die in the hopes of fulfilling a Doomsday Prophecy from somebody else's pedophile religion.
It's a doomsday cult.
So about that authoritarian religious regime...
Killing girls going to school. Good plan, God. Well done, you fuckin idiot.
Don't pin it on God, he doesn't exist. This is purely human levels of evil.
I know that, you know that, and I think they know that. Their idiot followers (or whatever you want to call them) don’t though, so pinning things on God is an age old scam that always works.
Republicans version of God doesn't like educated women. They get all uppity and start wanting things like equal rights. Gotta stop it at the root.
I mean we have adults who identify as MAGA and believe anything Orange Jesus tells them, so I am not surprised some of them found their way into the military
25% or more of his base is evangelical, and believes war in the middle east will bring about the second coming of (angry,) Jesus, whom will bring the faithful to heaven and drown the world in lakes of blood and fire. Finally, right?
Orange Jesus doesnt work anymore.
The leader of the most powerful nation that sets off Armageddon, is the anticrist in their book.
You know, believing oneself to be the antichrist DOES mean you are pretty much the most important and impactful human on the planet. Like Time Person of the Year multiplied by Jesus.
That sounds like peak narcissism.
That makes me think it could be true. :/
He matches up to revelations a little too well. It could only have been deliberately manufactured. They literally think they can trick God into kicking off the end times.
Anti-christ still has christ in it.
Checkmate libtard!
Cheeto Antichrist
American Djihad
what the actual fuck?
What the actual fuck?
For those who haven't seen the depths of christian nationalism, check out Jesus Camp which came out 20 years ago (those kids are adults now)
Another relevant documentary: Praying for Armageddon
I guess the billionaires finished their bunkers…
These people are not fit to lead. This is insane...
Revelation is vague enough they can get anything from it
Jesus thought he was coming back in a few years.
Matthew 16:27-28 “For the Son of Man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay everyone for what has been done. Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
it's worth mentioning that being a decent christian should just require the knowledge of the important parts and certainly not the whole of it.
As soon as you can get the ~40,000 different denominations of Christianity to agree what "the important parts" are, which atrocities to heed, and which to ignore, you let us all know
quite sure that none of this in the Bible
Revelations was written after Jesus's death. John of Patmos was not an apostle. Both Nero and Domitan (latter most likely epoch/context of Revelations) were widely hated and flawed, and meant as a call to rise up and overthrow these dictators. The Romans exiling him to Patmos, specifically did so because it seemed an imminent threat to them rather than a 2000+ years later threat.
The Crusades 2.0
I would like our nobles to get lost in a desert and be massacred by the locals.
Well, I think it'd be like the 7th(?) Crusade but this time it'll work out!!
I am trying to think of how we would have responded to this when I was in the military
We already had a 1st Sergeant who used soldiers to pick up trash at his church and gave soldiers on extra duty the option to go to his church on Sunday to avoid extra duty
That 1SG got forced retirement pretty quick
But a commander? Not sure how to handle that one
There's no easy solution, because it's like trying to treat a cancer that has already been growing for generations and is already metastasizing. Ironically, the best bet from a wide perspective is probably a combination of supporting religious diversity (more institutions who don't share their views), and even moreso a healthy, science-respecting educational system. These groups thrive most in rural areas with the poorest access to education. They perceive college as a threat for good reason - because their entire worldview is a hot garbage house of cards that immediately crumbles under the slightest scrutiny.
Free public college is the biggest threat to them.
Wow. America really is fucked.
I'm not very Jesusy but if he existed I doubt he'd annoint that sad old bag of hamburgers.
All powerful deity exists outside of space and time
Needs Donald J Trump
Got it
Ah yes. The mentally ill are running the military.
The scary thing is not just that commanders may be saying this, but what an extreme outlier the citizens of the USA are when it comes to not being able to differentiate between reality and fairy-tales: https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/0316/Do-countries-become-less-religious-as-they-get-richer
Even when the specific fairy-tales oppose these actions: quotes from Jesus according to the gospels:
"If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also." Matthew 5:39
"Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you," Luke 6:27
Any sources for this? I don't trust substack stuff
This is the right question. This doesn't sound unlikely given what we know about Hegseth, but I have no clue who Jonathan Larsen is or why we should trust him.
Another aspiring journo in the age of microblogs.
That said, MRFF has their post about it, and they seem legit...
I'm not surprised if it's real, as it's exactly what they believe and been fueling for a long time. It's just that substack tends to be filled with right wing idiots, poor quality self proclaimed journalists and people trying to get popular with clickbait and fake news bullshit. So anything on there I see as (in Intel terms) highly untrustworthy and mostly unlikely in general. Doesn't mean some things can be true, or partially true.
I don't know if Hegseth would be inclined to do this, but I could imagine there being a subculture among some commanders that would manifest this way.
The NCO said they were Christian and emailed the MRFF on behalf of 15 troops, including at least 11 Christians, one Muslim, and one Jew. (Full email printed below.) The NCO wrote to the MRFF that their commander “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.”
How can you go in front of your mixed troops and start waxing lyrical about your specific religion? Like what sort of brain disease leads to this? Even if you are religious, you have to know that other people take their other religions just as seriously and recognize that perhaps it's better not to sow discord between them if they are supposed to battle together.
I remember in the time after 9/11 when Muslims and Islam were shown in this kind of light while the west was too modern, scientific, and secular to fall prey to this stuff.
Now... now everything they accused Islam of they are actually doing AND the worst of the wordt Muslims are being armed and propped up by them as they always have been.
I need a good strong whisky this weekend...
It's just so stupid, so embarrassing. You guys need to get rid of these clowns ASAP.
Is there a reputable source for this? Smells like rage-bait...
You'd have been called antisemitic for saying this exact thing yesterday.
The reason every Christians nation has turned a blind eye to the Gaza genocide is to fulfill a biblical prophecy of Jews controlling the entirety of Biblical Israel.
Just... What is even going on? I don't remember people being this stupid and cruel. This is after 2 world wars. How could people not see that they're doing the same things that the other dickheads did to gain enough power to butcher people? People are mad and stupid
I find this very hard to believe, especially as it's coming from some random guy's substack.
what the actual fuck
Ah great just another so-called holy war
I wonder if the first one were fought for the pedophiles as well
So these ignorant, murderous heretics think they can force God's hand?
Their hubris knows no bounds.
Christoid brainrot is going to kill us all jesus fucking christ
Murricans always telling us we should be afraid of the mad militaristic, totalitarian theocracy
Holy fuck...🚨🚨🚨 🚩🚩🚩‼️‼️‼️
These people are legitimately crazy. Like drowning their kids in the bath tub because the voices in their head they think are Jesus told them to "save them," level of crazy.
Religion is a cult. This is literal proof. Jesus was not real. The bible is fiction. Grow up.
Jesus most likely existed though.
"most likely" is not actual historical evidence. And there is no historical evidence that the 'jesus' referenced in the christian bible ever lived. As a matter of fact, he was called Yeshua (which translates to Joshua) in the bible stories. Jesus is a greek/latin translation. Finding historical facts outside of the bible is necessary to verify fiction from fact. We all know that Methuselah could not be 969 Years Old, humans cannot live that long, and 2000 years ago mortality rates were 20-45 years old, not 969.
The persona of jesus is more likely a representation of a variety of different characters from different stories and fables that were retold and well known at the time, as well as contemporary characters from the first few centuries AD.
I want to get off Mr. Reagan's Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Reagan's Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Reagan's Wild Ride.
I want to get off Mr. Reagan's Wild Ride.
The fucking MAGA clowns, their Jewish allies and their Islamic opponents share a lot in fucking common. All of them are religious nutters and should NOT be involved in politics and the military.
Wow...what a way to divorce the US military from reality and play into a fantasy conspiracy that Israel is somehow central to some scheme by the Illuminati, the Jesuits, the Freemasons, and the Zionists.
Western leaders folks...these champions are losing their marbles all over the floor.
a fantasy conspiracy that Israel is somehow central to some scheme by the Illuminati, the Jesuits, the Freemasons, and the Zionists.
I mean, I'm not convinced yet, but... Just saying, recent events have made me more open to the idea.
Seconding.. Especially for those interested in esoteric/occult texts.
Labelling something as a definitive: "play into a fantasy conspiracy" is manipulative bias. You do not know with certainty either way.
America is Satan
Jesus take the STRATCOM
And they are definitely not on the side of god.
God ain’t got nothing to do with this, keep him outa your bullshit drunky.
What part of thief in the night do these fuckers not understand?
The fucking hubris to think a human shithead can force His return.
I kept reading and reading hoping there was a punchline somewhere.
Tell me again what's the difference between this and when you called "dangerous barbarians" to those islamic countries calling for a yihad?
Oh, right... they had the wrong color of skin and the wrong god...
Well... Pretty much the same god, the christians just deny the relevancy of the 3rd book in the series.
They've completely infiltrated the military. Or maybe the sick ass military welcomed them and was looking for them. Fucked either way.
Anyone returning named Jesus would be deported to El Salvador.
Trump and God. The two true Gods. /s
So the Epstein distraction became an Epstein connection. They pretty much believe they're the descendants of archons ready to bring yaldabaoth here through the end of world scenarios
Tell me it's a Russian/Chinese bot. Because if real, it's some Daesh level motive, so it's pretty concerning
“When Iran gets into the news, especially with anything to do with war,” says religious historian Diana Butler Bass, “it’s a prophetic dog whistle to evangelicals.”
Last year a lot of those crazies proclaimed via social media, that the rapture was imminent and prepared themselves by undressing, writing last messages to the sinners who'll be left behind or they even sold their homes. Can't remember but it could actually have been when the 12 days war with Iran happened.
This rapture thing already should've happened a few times, just like with every end times prophecy. The fact the orange menace is in bed with the ultraorthodox christian movements (Dominionists, Seven Mountain Mandate) is well know since his first presidency. Same with their believes about the end-times. That he seems more like the anti christ is no problem for them as they believe, as stated in the article, that god will choose a flawed vessel for the mission.
even sold their homes.
LOL!!! 'Cause they're gonna need that money in heaven. These people have absolute shit for brains.
yank does the most yankee thing ever
Omg russians!!!! China!!!!!!
What the akshuall phuk
On the plus side maybe we can finally put the whole Revelations part of the Bible into the trash can where it (and the rest of it, frankly) belongs
So Jesus anointed a shit covered pedo rapist begin a war with Iran by way of marking his return? Got it, no follow up questions.
How much more stupid lies will the world accept? This is insanity.
How many kids have to die for the lies of USA? For the lies of Israel?
Bravo USA, Bravo Israel.
Christians always looking for new and fun ways to make the world a worse place. At least theyre on brand.
[You are now suffering from a significant amount of radiation poisoning]
Pretty sure that bit about rapture also mentions the antichrist proclaiming himself as savior, right?
These people need to be stopped.
Okay, what these people need is not death sentence, but a life sentence in an asylum.
Plot twist, Jesus is an alien and that's why Trump wanted to release the alien files
I figured Jesus would be the last person Trump would want to meet.
I figured Jesus would be the last person Trump would want to meet.
6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matthew 18:6
Given this entire administration's relationship to children, and their hijacking and warping of the Gospel and manipulation of naive belivers to create a doomsday death cult, I'd say we're far overdue for millstones to go up in demand as much as RAM has.
"Any military members seeking to take advantage of their subordinates by advancing their blood-soaked, Christian nationalist wet dreams upon the flames of this latest non-Congressionally sanctioned attack against Iran, should be swiftly, aggressively and visibly prosecuted.”
Can we just launch all the nukes and get it over with already? That’s how this all ends, we already know that, we aren’t going to become better at being people, things are not going to improve. It would be the path of least suffering, at this point.
Christians are salivating for Jews to return to Isreal. I've known this since I was raised in the church.
Zephaniah 3:19–20 – God promises to gather His people and bring them home, giving them honor and praise. Hosea 3:5 – Israel will return and seek the Lord and David their king in the last days. Jeremiah 16:14–15 – A greater exodus than Egypt—the Lord bringing Israel back from all nations.
Fucking nutcases. At this rate troops might actually just mutiny
Why do are these people doing it in such a complicated way? They have thousands of nukes, they could immanentize the eschaton today. Just launch all nukes into Russia and China. Problem solved, armageddon achieved.
That's exactly what they're talking about. It's too overt to be called foreshadowing, this is more like fiveshadowing.
They need everything they're doing to line up with the prophecies in their magic books
Hitchens had a book(2007) religion poisons everything. every few years they whip the faithful into a frenzy hoping to make their delusions real. 'if we don't reach our money goals, god will take me home' said another faith leader. this seems like successful Russian propaganda, today anyway. obscure blogger fans flames. army guys don't go to church a lot.
I can only hope after the fallout clears and the species survives that we outright ban all religions as a species.
Jesus fucking christ.
Christian death cult gonna death cult. This is what we deserve for allowing these morons into power.
Trump would suffer no political fallout from holding up a baby to keep from getting shot. Unfortunately, real life is much worse than that movie.
Some men with butterfly nets should have come and taken him away to a padded room for his own safety.
once the 7 trumpets and angels return you, they will smite humans instead.
Lolwat?
So does that mean Donnie is going to go to Iran personally? To light a fire on the ground? With his own manly bear hands?
Seems likely. I wonder who will play the part of Jesus. Russell Brand?
I vote for Bill Bailey.
What was it we were talking about?
he is a homless wife beater look, who is also has the crazy eyes.
Putin never goes to frontline himself, unless its under russian control. likely not for bonespurs.
Israel know about this? I mean Jesus, they don't recognize him as a son of God. Why Israel is fighting for someone they don't give a shit?
Of course Israel knows about this, these people are the main reason that the US has supported their genocide for decades
Lunatic calls leader already doing land grab genocide.
Says he’ll give access to largest military in the world because it will distract from the files bring about the end times from his weird death cult prophecy.
“Sounds good, bud”
From Abraham's first hallucinations that the god El promising him the Levant, to Moses admitting that a demon Yahweh impersonated El to fill Abraham's head with such warmongering delusions, to King David's victory took 1700 years. No matter how passionate your belief in every schitzos voices in their head's call for war, when it takes that long to gain control, coincidence rather than divine power to make things/miracles happen, becomes a better argument than the existence of either divine intervention at all, or of a chosen people.
Christianity, turned back into Divine right of Kings in first millenium. Criminal heresy to suggest that Jesus's humanist points should ever contradict Empire's warmongering or authoritarianism. That military hierarchy would rely on Old testament demonism is tradition that gives them more power.
The only possible interpretation of Jesus defeating the forces of evil, is that the evil side is the Epstein warmongering regime. The punch line, is that demonic Abrahamic supremacists are converted to Jesus in the end, and so military should interpret this order as attacking Israel and their corrupt hierarchy.
that a demon Yahweh impersonated El
Oooh, I'm not familiar with this lore - where it's from?
Divine right of Kings
Remember kids, if you're pro-King, you're pro-Christianity!
where it’s from?
exodus 6:3 (moses narrative) Yahweh tells Moses that even though Abraham thought his commandments were coming from El, that it was secretly Yahweh impersonating El.
Abraham, like other tribes/cities in Levant, believed in El. But he didn't believe in the polytheist 70 sons and pantheon of El. Yahweh was one of these sons. Bible has no story of a coup against El by Yahweh, just that Yahweh is transported to the father role, and is Jealous of his mother, but due to teleportation to throne, now his wife, Asherah. Under David, Yahweh sentences the 70 sons to death.
You know the GOP are literal traitors to our nation when they just keep brazenly violating our Constitution.
Not sure what more it's going to take for the general populace to accept that actual real life traitors are running our federal government.
Holy Wars... The Punishment Due
I really hope Republican states are the ones that will suffer the consequences of their voting.
Surely I just ate the onion, yes?
Well now we know what the new Nazi ideology is. I guess it is different than making a blue eyed blonde haired race but I think that was possible with inbreeding.
Isn't this the point at which you stand up and walk out of the room?
I didn't see this shit on GameFaqs! That's all it takes to kick off the end of the world?
Mossad commanders laughing their asses off at people like this
Religion is a mental illness, a personal defect, an intellectual flaw, and the biggest threat facing humanity right now. By far.
I'm pretty sure Israel doesn't feel that way.
Of course they would try and guilt trip the religious people who don't know any better. I wish more people were aware of the thousands of complaints by military personel about pedophile trump and all his dumb orders. The parade in washington was an absolute disaster and made most of us laugh at donald for how weak he is, the military was pissed they had to stand around for hours.
What are the odds nukes start flying once the bunkers finished?
Hey, Kegsbreath, does Jesus know about it?
he said she said propaganda of the day. next you are going to tell me the co is a chaplain
To quote George Carlin... "Holy shit"
Words fail me right now, all I can think is: AaaaahhhAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Ah yes, the good ol' loving God wants you to slaughter his own childr---- WAAAAAIIIITTT A MINUTE!!
And they believed it?
I really hope the comming insurgent attacks (like 9/11) target Republican states. Democrats voted against this, and the consequences need to be born by Republican states.
My fix for the world.
eradicate religion (with education and critical thought), and billionaires.
Its very simple.
how far would you follow anyone that ate up. lifer ncos maybe, troops not so much;
TaliTrumps
Anone here seen "The Brink"?
Best case scenario these nut bags wipe themselves out. Worst case scenario nuclear armageddon.
I'm sure we will be able to vote our way out of this.
fuckin' actual HUH-WHAT now'zzles ?? :P