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I destroyed the soviet union, I destroyed the united states

2mon 14d ago by lemmy.world/u/mrdown in apologiafreenews@piefed.social

Ronny there can share some of the "destroyed the USA" stuff himself methinks

why are you a bot

I fixed it - wrong setting

[Edit] I thought i fixed it. Maybe the change needs to propagate

Hah no worries I was just confused for a sec lol

Dang, you really pulled a Pinocchio

And doesn't deserve all that much of the "destroyed the USSR" credit, for that matter. I'm not all that up on my Soviet history, but if there's any single person who could get named for that, it's Gorbachev.

This is everything Reagan wanted and he would be thrilled how far this has gone

First came Nixon on the mountaintop, starting the car's engine. Then came Regan, who threw a brick on the gas pedal. Now there's Trump, shooting at the rescue helicopter.

When they say facts yes

That should maybe be Putin, not Yamtits.

Russia is not the soviet union although Putin want the soviet union back

I was referring to Putin's behind the scenes manipulation of Yamtits & the US Rightwing Establishment over the last decade or so.

I don't think it's any surprise that Putin wants to accelerate the collapse of the US

Which is of course inevitable as the US is beholden to Capital interests above all else

And with Putin's favorites, Trump and Netanyahu, that collapse is getting speedrun

Source?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

This was published in 1997 and putin was following it with some minor changes (they didn't anticipate China to grow so big) until 2022 where things did not go exactly according to plan.

Also book by Prof. Snyder "Road to U freedom: Russia, Europe, America" talks about putin and helps understanding him what he is after.

I read that summary and it doesn't have anything to do with restoring the Soviet Union.

Dugin appears to be putting forward a Russian neoconservatism.

Do I need to explain how different those things are?

If you said "Putin wants to return to the martial might of the Romanov dynasty of the 17th century" that would be more convincing and accurate, although still missing a lot.

Well you didn't read the book, just summary, so here is a video that says a bit more: https://youtu.be/Q9MSV9Bp35Y

Also the mentioned Prof. Snyder's book, Road to Unfreedom answers why it is so important to putin.

I watched the video. I honestly wasn't very impressed with the presentation.

Either way it's clear Dugin had some hits and misses. Seems like he correctly called Georgia, Ukraine, and possibly the former austro-hungarian countries, whereas he seems to have missed on Germany, the Baltics, and China

It's also abundantly clear that he is not a Leninist, all his arguments keep on hearkening back to tradition and culture and religion, whereas I don't see any discussion of class or labor relations at all.

Wanting to create a pan-Eurasian bloc of traditional societies is...not the USSR

Well duh, it no longer exists, but Russia created it.