why do you keep posting these when people obviously do not want them here?
There are some users who seem to be here to collect as many downvotes as possible, and I do not understand it at all. You can’t turn in downvotes for prizes? They don’t have market value?
Did I miss some memo or something? Are we mad at this style of comic right now for some reason?
I've got my pitchfork downvote ready, just give me a good reason 👍
I honestly don't see what's wrong with this particular comic. It's just a silly comic about a common problem with "free" games.
felix posts only comics from this author, who seems to have some rather unsavoury opinions on women and minorities.
They do?
yeah there's been links in the other threads on this comm. personally i went through some of his comics on his site and there is 1) a lot of t'n'a (which i'm all for tbh, it just gets old if it's shown as "normalcy") and 2) every type of character the author doesn't like (feminists, models, vegans, specifically male homosexuals...) are drawn like weird charicatures.
Are people complaining about the actual submitted content in the comics or just about the author's personal views? I mean, if it's the content in the comics, I...guess I could understand having a sexycomics@lemmy.world or something if some people consider the above to have too much skin --- I don't think I'd call it NSFW. It doesn't bother me, personally.
well, sometimes. his views definitely bleed through. flipping through 20-30 pages on his site was enough for me to get the picture.
checks the sidebar
I mean, the community rules do explicitly permit NSFW comics (it does say that they should be flagged NSFW, which this isn't).
- Any comic that would qualify as raunchy, lewd, or otherwise draw unwanted attention by nosy coworkers, spouses, or family members should be tagged as NSFW.
I just...I kinda have a hard time looking at that and saying that someone would get in trouble over viewing it at work, and in any event, I don't think that "sexed up" is inappropriate, given the rules that the mods have written; they're clearly fine with lewd material.
From what I've seen, the series constantly has fan service, but I must say that I really don't hold with trying to drive the guy off for posting them.
That being said, like I said, if there are enough people who enjoy them and enough people who are upset about them, maybe doing a new community would make sense.
The problem isn't this comic, it's the transphobic and misogynistic content in the artist's other comics people have a problem with.
He sometimes veers into trans hates and misogynistic humor. It's not really about the sexy drawings.
Personally, I don't think we should platform authors that dip their feet in hate since it does drive traffic to their website.
The content that is posted here from him is mostly boring and trite, so there's not much lost even if the specific comic itself isn't breaking any rules. It feels like an easy choice to make, even more so when it seems the poster just shares it to cause drama. Petty behavior and all.
Two lies in one comment, well done 🤣
oh sorry, i forgot the word "recently"
Why don't you just block if you don't want to see these?
it was a genuine question. i'm personally ambivalent the comic but apparently the author is a questionable character and if that makes people uncomfortable i'm for not posting them.
like, this is a small space. we're building community. trying to actively fight against that seems antithetical to the idea of lemmy.
I want to know as well
Mine is also a genuine question. You don't like it? Block it, you won't see it.
Unless of course your aim is to dictate other people what they are able to see.
i answered in the previous post: i personally don't mind it but i care about making people feel safe in this space. now you answer me.
I feel like we just need to split comics. Whole point of lemmy is to basically allow us to fragment. so mods of world comics don't care, why not pick an instance make a comic strips with a banned author list. If more people would like to be free of comics from unsavory authors they can move there.
His point (and point of people like him) isn't to just not see certain comics as for this they would use a simple "block" button. Their point is to dictate to other people what they can see.
Funnily enough, all these people moaning are usually the same who pretty much never contribute any strips to this community.
No there's a valid point to not want to be a part of a community that platforms the individuals. and I can certainly see a valid point in why blocking doesn't solve it. 1. different users post from the artists, it's not going to be met at an individual level.
IMO it should be a community level decision.
Though that's why I still hold to the suggestion that this scism is large enough that a community should be made. Because I can agree with the concept, if the mods in a community don't agree, making a new community is a solution
no
It's not a block button. It's a mute button. It means that the user who is muted can still see and interact with the posts and comments of the user who muted them. But the user who muted them can't see or interact with the user they muted.
A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who the accounts can no longer interact or see each other.
This is problematic specifically because I don't trust you (or most people) to no abuse this work around. I don't trust you specifically because you could have been blocking people who don't like the content you post this whole time and yet here you are.
I also feel like given your reaction to things when proof has been provided that you don't argue in good faith. That's based on reading your comments just in this thread.
I don't care if they ban you or don't. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community and you don't seem to care about that. If you're not here to build the community then I question your motives.
It's not a block button. It's a mute button.
Which means he won't be able to see what he doesn't like.
A block would work the way it does on places like Tumblr where regardless of who blocks who they accounts can no longer interact or see each other.
Agreed - I wouldn't mind blocking people to stop them complaining (I tried!) but it is sadly not an option. They need to use block button themselves.
. I do care that the comics you post are having a detrimental effect on the community
No, that's not true.
you don't seem to care about that
Also not true.
If you're not here to build the community
I am pretty sure this community would welcome yours and other complainers contribution, ie more comic strips. Sadly, I noticed more vocal people are with downvoting and complaining, less strips they contribute.
Your assumption seems to be that the only contribution you can make to a community you are a part of is to be a content poster. This simply isn't true. There's value in the conversations and interactions people have with the content and not everyone contributes the same way.
This assumption you are making clearly leads your other assumptions about value vs detrimental effects and you are obtuse about what you mean when you say things like :
No, that's not true.
What's not true? That you have a detrimental effect or that I don't care? How do you make that determination? What information and data are you using to quantify it?
I'm especially curious because as far as I can tell what ever "isn't true" is just your opinion and it's a singular one vs the opinions of several people which is where I'm quantifying my own data.
You can say you do care but actions speak louder than words.
If your only solution is to demand the action of others without examining your own actions when those actions are called out then we are having two different arguments here and you should stick to one topic at a time.
"Hundreds of people dislike or find fault with my actions so they should block me" is a statement that doesn't actually have any thought behind it.
This is a comic community. If you are not placing any comics, you are not contributing. Nobody comes here to read comments, users are here to read comics.
That's adorable but naive. That's not how communities work.
Do you tell the people in your house that since they don't contribute they aren't worthwhile?
Also, you can stop trying to shift this to being about what other people contribute. What you contribute and how others view it is the subject. Moving the goal post because you are under fire is not acceptable.
That's adorable but naive.
I know it may come to you as a shock but nobody comes here to read your comments. Ergo, you are not contributing.
Instead you are trying to lecture others what contributions are allowed. Start contributing yourself and then we can have a discussion about the value of each other contribution.
Ahem. Moving the goal posts will not get you anywhere with me. Your behavior is the topic here. Stay on topic or expect me to keep repeating it.
My "behaviour" stopped to be a "topic" since I was 15.
You remind me of a freeloader coming to a party, complaining about a booze someone else did bring and acting all surprised when he is told to bring his own.
You don't like my booze? Bring your own, (ie start contributing) and stop drinking mine (ie mute and move with your life).
Goodbye.
You remind me of someone who thinks so long as they contribute they can do no wrong and don't face any repercussions for their actions.
Take responsibility for yourself before you decide to come at others.
Rule 1.
This conversation is getting out of hand.
I wasnt the one who removed that comment.
Why would I block you?
It does! I use summit and it says who as well. Though voyager is very nice I'm not trying to convert you.
I'm sorry if I upset you, just doing my job.
In other words, you want to dictate other people what they are able to see.
no, i want the community to do that. i don't understand why you're always so aggressive in these threads. lemmy is not the place for that sort of behaviour.
In this case I suggest you need to block and move on with your life. Good bye.
but... i don't have a personal problem with it? why aren't you answering my question? you're giving canned responses now, like i'm some sort of militant hater, rather than actually give a reason for what you're doing
The answer to your question seems to be that he's a contrarian. Feel free to correct me, but that's what it looks like from where I'm standing.
just because of that i will continue to moan :)
My guy, if you don't want people to complain about your favorite shit comic
My guy, if you prefer to keep moaning instead of blocking, be my guest. Counterproductive but hell, yeah - knock yourself out.
I would strongly recommend you take your own advice and block people as necessary. Your comments are bordering on goading, and that too will not be tolerated.
Ok.
For fucks sake. The mods are really 24/7 running cover for the posters of bigoted comics.
We don't tolerate ableism here. They were calling the OP "mentally disabled" as an insult and advising them to get tested.
If you don't think it's ableism just because it's supporting your side of the argument, then so be it; I do.
Yeah, I enforced Rule 1: "😇 Be Nice!", quoting from it exactly. We don't tolerate ableism around here. You were using the mentally disabled as the punchline to an insult, and the fact you're apparently trying to pretend otherwise is insulting.
Insult me all you want, but you're not going to pretend you were "just asking questions" when you used people with mental disabilities as a punchline.
You know what you meant.
You can phrase it however you wish, but to continually harass people and their mental capacities will be a fast track to your being banned. If you have a beef with that, you're welcome to take that up with the powers that be. But I for one will not tolerate anybody calling out anybody else's mental capacities for any reason.
Why don’t the mods ban this shit already. This community is proving to be disgusting if this is how they plan on “moderating” it.
If we block them we don't see them and can't downvote them, which is a tacit acceptance that these kinds of demeaning misogynistic comics are acceptable. They are not acceptable. I'm doing my very small part to make this place feel a little safer for others by downvoting instead of simply ignoring and accepting the hurtful things shared by you and your ignorant and disgusting ilk.
can't downvoted them
How does it impact your life?
misogynistic comics
Naah. This is definitely not misogynistic.
I want you to know how unwelcome your ideas and attitudes are.
You are very welcome to contribute yours (strips) for others to judge. I haven't noticed any yet.
the mmo's I did play were pretty good about giving enough to free to play players and most buy stuff being more cosmetic but every so often there were things that would get the community shouting pay to play and it was warranted. Honestly it was kinda pay or grind to play.
People downvoting these comics do not want to platform the comic author, who has expressed misogynistic and transphobic views, among others.
Yes, I have. Credit to Lime! for putting this sampler together, I'm just pasting here for reference:
this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this
If you do not have an issue with those views, by all means vote the way you feel. However it should not be that surprising that they are unpopular views in this day and age, especially on a mostly left leaning service. The downvotes are not a "performance".
Thank you. It appears to be a vocal group of people who mostly never contribute any comic strips but they just love creating a drama.