Meta lost 20 million users last quarter. First drop in daily active users since it started tracking the numbers in 2019
1mon 17d ago by mander.xyz/u/Deep in technology from www.socialmediatoday.com
Not enough.
Seriously, how are there still so many people on meta? What percentage are bots is the real question 🤷♂️
Every one one of my friends and family use it daily.
And a huuuuuge sell is marketplace. Literally no one touches Craigslist anymore. So if you wanna buy used from people, you literally need marketplace.
I used craigslist just last week, but yea marketplace is a big part of facebooks market reliance
Mad respect to them for not enshittifying.
...yet.
Craigslist, or Facebook marketplace?
"Literally no one?" My partner and I just picked up a couch from a couple thru Craiglist, all of us aged around 30 years old. We both love to read the Missed Connections posts on there. I agree that facebook's marketplace has a good hold on ubiquity at the moment, but nobody "literally" needs it.
I was looking for a turntable recently and checked Craigslist religiously for several weeks trying to find a deal. All I saw was the same few overpriced antique stores using posts as advertisements, refreshing over and over to stay on top. What real posts I could find were priced at the same point as the antique stores, probably thinking that was the going rate.
I was barely aware of Facebook Marketplace, but a friend recommended I check there too, and it had a bunch of actual fair deals. While Craigslist rarely had a vintage turntable for less than $300, I was immediately able to find 2 for less than $50 each on Facebook. I felt unclean while re-installing the Facebook app after nearly a decade, but I can't deny that it's better, at least for what I was looking for.
Nice!
Haha yeah, I mean its used, but veerryyy very little now. People are still scared of being murdered in there.
literally is one of those words which has really lost it's meaning. yes I hate it.
Regardless, how badly you want to use fb marketplace is highly regional and situational dependent.
My partner and I have twins who are now almost 3 years old. I would estimate that the stuff we have bought and then later sold on fb marketplace for little or no difference in value would have cost about $6k or $7k per child if we had bought it new. Average full time wage here is about $1k per week, for reference.
There just isn't another platform which has any significant userbase for toddlers gear here. There is something else you can use for cars or tools, but not toddlers stuff.
Its true that without facebook marketplace we just wouldn't have bought a lot of the stuff that we did
Yeah i used it unnessecarily. I agree. So many good deals. And ive met some new friends from it.
Meeting someone via Missed Connections is the stuff of my Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan dreams.
I sold my motorcycle 3 years ago and had at least 10 offers on it.
I'll check CL every so often
IME craigslist is better for auto but everything else seems to be on marketplace
That and free random stuff.
I just wanted to point out that it's not dead dead (well a lot of traffic died after they took personals off lol )
Which is also fucked, since the likelihood you have a legit transaction is low. The scammers are most active on marketplace.
Eh, not true. Ive bought and sold hundreds of things and had 0 scam. People around here are pretty honest
Oh maybe it’s location based.
Lol you do not need fb marketplace. Thrift stores, yard sales and flea markets are great for furniture. For everything else there's eBay. I've never bought anything on fb marketplace and I almost always buy used stuff.
Stop making flimsy excuses. Stop giving this evil company your money.
Not here. Marketplace is insanely useful and saves me a lot of money.
Thrift shops?? Garage sales?? They're shit now and WAY overcharge. Pawn shops are horrible. They want $300 for a VCR.
However , I do not use Walmart or amazon, and I do not buy new cars. So I'm helping there at least.
I can't leave anyway since all my friends are stuck in it and will never move. (Tech illiterate and scared of the dark web, as they call it)
i cannot believe people literally don’t understand or remember how the world worked before the 4 companies took over their brains
Amazing isnt it. The corporations have won. Us old fogies are deemed crazy and will be gone soon and the younguns will have no idea what they took from us.
Its up to parents to teach their children to rage and be angered at what they've lost. And to get it back.
seems old man yells at cloud but it’s true
these companies have like 100 year plans - they know even if everyone hates what they do today, those people will die off and the new generation won’t know any better, since they have been seeped in it.
Craigslist is stil the standard for listing rentals in Vancouver for some reason.
There are parts of the world where the Facebook app basically is the Internet. Places where most people dont own a laptop, but everyone has a cell phone and phone service comes bundled with discounted Facebook data. Their hold goes way beyond social networking to, local businesses and even government services dont have webpages, they have Facebook pages only. Every game people play runs through Facebook, and all their saves are locked up with them. Every video people post or watch runs through Facebook and its hyper localized algorithm. It would take generations to displace them.
Not sure of other countries in the same region (Latin America) but at least in mine, is so fucking annoying that the main source of communication between clients and stores is Facebook. Do you want to order something? Then contact us (specifically from Facebook) or come to the store!
a lot of you consider facebook + whatsapp + instagram usage covers a large chunk of thr western sphere
Seriously, how are there still so many people on meta?
Social networks become part of people life, they use them to talk to relatives, friends and to build communities. Once social networks started to become popular, facebook with the help of governments, rich people and other corporations managed to become the biggest platform, they got so big that they turned into a phone book where everyone was in. Meta used the billions we feed them, our data and their popularity to build/buy other social networks and tools people are now hooked up. In italy whatsapp replaced mails and it's what most people are using to talk with each other.
how are there still so many people on meta?
People in developing countries have Facebook as their default internet destination, sometimes it is even the internet encapsulated, as it literally combines almost all the online services that are normally separate; they go there for their daily entertainment, news, and socializing fix.
The Philippines are one. Those stupid sad fuckers can’t get off it to save their lives. And Facebook subsidizes it for them to be on it all day.
Facebook in Philippines is literally free to use even for those without mobile data. However, people there don't realise they are the product. Or worse, they don't realise they are guinea pigs for social engineering by techno-industrial complex.
Family keeps me from deleting my account but I don't use it for anything other than messenger and unfortunately marketplace because that's replaced everything else.
WhatsApp is extremely popular, even among people who don't use any other Meta services.
It still boggles my mind most of the world decided to adopt that app of all apps to be the defacto texting app.
As one of those adopters 15 years ago, it was a no-brainer. I could either message my wife "free" or send SMSs at 20c each.
Is this still the case?
SMS is now 11 cents, better, but not free. There are a bazillion more apps that do free messaging but everybody, even companies expect to have WhatsApp
Boomers are set in their ways
I use it for messaging. Boomers are on it heavily and the Portal TV - a truly wondrous device despite the caveat - needs a FB account also.
But reading the scroll? Not so much.
Edit: aw crap. I'm on whatsapp a lot too -- I forgot they're a meta deal. It's honestly hard to care enough to keep track, some days!
Same reason why so many are on the chinese version of it: They don't need more of the internet.
Thats like asking "How are there still so many boomers alive?"
Give it time.
It’s fun being part of that number.
I deleted my Facebook in 2013, before it was cool. 😛
I deleted mine in 2010, when Stan Marsh showed us how (s014e4). I think it was pretty cool by then already.
It was always cool to avoid facebook. Yes I AM a myspace loyalist who's still pissed 20+ years later!
I'm also still pissed napster died!
Did you lawyer up and hit the gym?
It’s probably because Israel was getting bombed last month and their bots were temporarily unavailable.
20 million actual users or 20 million ai bots.
I'd assume the bot count is increasing, not decreasing.
So, less bots?
That's my guess also. Probably some botnet went offline 6 or 12 or 36 months ago and the new accounts timed out.
That's awesome. Facebook is a freaking plague.
Old people are dying
I'm so old I remember when Facebork was just for young people.
I'm so old I remember when Facebook didn't exist :) Or Zuck, in fact.
Shit, I remember when Nixon resigned. I also remember thinking that Nixon was as bad as Republicans could ever get.
same. I keep thinking "it can't get worse than this," and republicans say: "Hold my beer."
Oh my sweet summer child.
I was out after dark, riding bikes with my best friend in the street in front of his house. My friend's mom came out and shouted at me to go home, and my friend to go inside. Then she shouted "That asshole, Ford, pardoned Nixon!" I had no idea what she was talking about, or why she was mad at us.
Harley Davidson effect.
Yeah, well, they went on a banning spree, getting rid of anyone and everyone speaking out against Trump, Cuckerburg, and the Nazi regime. Including me.
I can't wait to see Facebook to go away.
One of side hustle I do is tech support for senior people in my community. And amount of time I have to deal with stuff related to Facebook is staggering.
So many of seniors have multiple accounts because they don't understand how it work and just hit whatever buttons they see pop up until they get back into Facebook feed. So it's not user friendly and even worse, UI get changed constantly and I have to Google around across multiple threads different forums, etc to find answers. And so many more issues, I couldn't list them all.
That's a good start.
good :)
Hey remember the metaverse? No, yeah me neither
The Build Strike Exceed Galaxy was a pretty good kit. I painted mine with glow-in-the-dark paints.
We feed meta billions of dollars and all our data, watch out what they are going to do, they already approached the fediverse and tried to make their move there.
I don't understand. Did they try to buy Lemmy?
No, they hosted their own instance... or at least that is what i understand
Threads can interact with the fediverse, when meta rolled in the platform there were many talks about unfederating with them.
This fucking site, I swear... I want to delete my account. But my account is blocked. I never used Facebook on another device than my PC, never on mobile. And to unlock my account to delete it, I have to... log in from another device. No other way. I tried everything, and the best is, their fucking customer centre is a useless chatbot. I hate this.
I deleted my account and it was reactivated 3 years later because they didn’t want to show less users to shareholders
wonder if you told them you moved to the EU and they needed to comply with GDPR
I thought about that, but tell who ? There is only a PO Box, so I'll have to send a letter, no mail, and only a broken chatbot in the support...
might be outdated but give it a shot https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/la1r14/facebook_gdpr_data_deletion/
Thank you ! I'll try the hr email, that's a good idea. If it doesn't pan out I'll try a letter. It's so crazy how hidden and complex they make this process. It's clearly on purpose and evil, but nobody in the EU politics cares.
I'm in the same boat. I even tried emailing them my license. There is nothing I can do to delete my account from highschool.
because fake users drive advertising revenue.
That's it. Follow the money. It's ALL that matters.
Wouldn't be amazing that some kind of hacker group would delete accounts on request, as long as these accounts aren't actively used?
Wow hackerman should uhhh hack Facebook that'd be awesome they should do all these good things!
Let me guess. You think this is impossible.
Few things are impossible, but it'd definitely be a lot harder than you are imagining.
No, I don't think so. Dreaming is free, though.
Just start posting a bunch of political content they don't agree with to get your account deleted.
I would like to but my account is locked. Only because I've changed my email to use an alias from a Linux device, I think it triggered a bunch of security measures. What I find crazy is now I'm completely blocked and cannot have my account deleted. My name and picture is forever stuck on this cancer of a web site.
Do you really not have access to another internet device? A friend or parent’s phone with a private browser window?
It must be a device I used to log in my Facebook account in the past 🙃... Which I never used in another device. It's crazy
It's almost like it really fucking sucks.
Fuck Meta
Botbook
Good to see people may finally be waking up to the idea that these companies are trash.
Facebook will announce some new feature, spin up a few million more bots, and have a glowing report for the investors next month.
They are reporting "family daily active users" and I assume that this "family" means all of their apps. They are reporting 3.56 billion DAU, but Whatsapp alone has 3.3 billion users according to some sources. So we really do not know how Facebook or Instagram are doing from those numbers - and it does make sense that user numbers are dropping when Russia is restricting access to WhatsApp & Co and Iran is switching off its internet.
It absolutely boggles my mind that in a lot of countries, WhatsApp is basically required for daily life. Governments, businesses, families… they all use it for damn near everything.
They probably went to other social media platforms. Not really a win.
That depends on the platform. There are things I want from social media in my life. Facebook isn't giving me that anymore so I mostly left. I still miss the gap in my life from not knowing what my old/distant friends and family are doing (closer friends/family I call)
Funny enough, my friends rarely post or I’m not interested in them going out to whatever bar and posted selfies. So keeping up with them is the least interesting aspect of facebook. It’s sort of replaced some of the hobby group forums I used to be a part of. If you can find well moderated groups it’s pretty decent. Just hafta viciously hide ads and FB becomes reasonable to use.
I never got it anyway, right from the beginning. Why would I want to tell everybody my business, and why would I want to know everybody else's business?
I opened an account in my name at the beginning, so I could lock it down, but I never did anything with it. No profile info, posts, nothing. I have to do some Instagram for my business, but it's very inconsistent. Now and then I get a good photo, and I'll think to post it, but rarely.
How in the hell did a company of that size not start teaching DAU until 2019?
How many of those were accounts that Meta closed?
Ya Ive been kicked off 3 times and none of those times did they ever tell me what I posted to cause it, kicking off legitimate users for no reason HAS to be great for business right??
Still almost half the planet, though. Way too much.
fakebook
Faecesbook
What is "Meta" here?
Facrbook?
Instagram?
WhatsApp?
Oculus?
?????
All of the above?
All Meta-owned services, since it's a meta report.
I'm not surprised honestly, their stuff is getting boring and there are far better platforms this time. I hope they do something about their whole whatever..
I hope they don't and finally die
So making a platform shitty makes people stop using it?
Who wouldve thought there would be consecuences to the actions!
Still not convinced. X still has huge numbers, and they're one of the biggest cesspools on the internet.
I wonder if that metric counted users active in their comments plugin. They sunset that comments plugin around Jan or Feb ‘26
how did they only start tracking the number in 2019?
But it down.
When you count active users by the million. You’re doing alright
Probably just tied up with global population decline, or maybe infrastructure failure of ISPs, at this point. Facebook has the digital market super-saturated. Nowhere to go but down.
Isn’t the world population still growing?
It is, but the growth is not uniform around the globe. The population growth is inversely correlated with national development, though. That means the population is growing most in places where Internet access is most out of reach, and population growth is actually already negative and accelerating in many nations with widespread Internet access.
Yes, but primarily in countries with little to no internet.
So not "global population decline"?
Industrialized nations are experiencing significant population decline driven by fertility rates falling below the replacement level of 2.1, caused by increased urbanization, female education, and high costs of living. Over 90 countries face shrinking populations, with major economies like Japan and Italy projected to halve by 2100.
japan ironically is faring "better" than south korea, which seems to be declining much faster.
It's a race to the bottom in either case. What comes of living under a fascist regime crippled by it's fealty to an even bigger fascist regime.
They oughta shut it down completely, let reddit take up the slack
You had our support in the first half
Man, that ran out of steam after 6 words.