Doomer
1mon 3d ago by lemmy.world/u/Return_of_Chippy in lemmyshitpost
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another Ring was made
A ring called 'irreversible and catastrophic environmental damage'.
(Not just climate change, either -- though that's a big part of it. Also everything from microplastics to overfishing.)
PFAS is gonna fuck us, but simultaneously is super useful. Not much modern indoor plumbing works without ptfe paste/tape somewhere.
I wonder if it’s one of the great filters.
“Global Ecological Collapse” was the phrase used when I was studying biology 15 years ago.
Oh fook, has Peter Thiel launched another company!?
Yup, the rubber tree shortage. The ENTIRE modern world relies on this one renewable resource, and its in critical decline. We harvest them faster than we can plant to grow :)
2026 Q4 robotic AI push
No-one was prepared for the Starlink re-entry events. Humanity had been so busy looking outwards, but had failed to look upwards. From 2035, they had to learn to accept the regular and devastating reentry of this fleet of miniature satellites. Molten fire would rain from the sky, multiple times per day at any time or place. Many cities were destroyed during this period, with too many deaths to count.
I’m so fucking tired, bros.
Stop paying attention so much. Like, don't stick your head in the sand, but take a break from news for a while.
I went on a cruise last year and the news detox was absolutely amazing for my mental health. Someone read a headline about Trump doing something stupid and I was like, who cares? There's literally nothing we can do about it, especially from the middle of the Mediterranean.
And when I got home, I realized it's the same here. I feel like I need to know what's going on in the world, but if I can't make a difference, why would I bring more stress into my life? I just come out feeling worse, for humanity, for my own inaction, for the futility of goodness.
You don't need to know the intricacies of geopolitics, the price of oil, if the Strait is open, or even who the president is to have a positive effect on your community.
Go for a walk and meet your neighbors. Some might be shitheads but you'll be a better person for getting to know them.
Volunteer work can also reignite your pilot light of hope. I worked at a shelter and the other volunteers showed me the goodness in humanity.
There's still a lot of good out there. Don't let the news convince you it's a lost cause.
It’s not just the news. Every fucking thing is a grift scam. Can’t go buy some bread without wondering if the company sold out and cut corners since the last time you bought that exact brand. Can’t trust cvs won’t replace the doctors with some idiots who will tell you to drink water to clear an infection because they don’t believe in antibiotics. Every fucking time i walk out of my house some fucking American grifting piece of shit is trying to ruin my day and rip me the fuck off.
And I carry that suspicion now with everyone I meet to protect myself. Because 70% of this fucking country is nothing but loser cheating pieces of shit who learned to lie cheat and steal from the “leader” they vote and work for.
Oh and every fucking thing is made from the cheapest shittiest Chinese supplier these grifting losers can find. Just replacing our country with cheap shitty plastic that doesn’t even fulfill its intended purpose. I hate everyone!
This is solid advice. New owners recently banned earbuds at work, which really sucks, but something curious happened as a result. I stopped listening to political shit on YouTube five days per week and I've never felt more calm. Now when I occasionally do pop in to Kyle Kulinski or something I see the world is still on fucking fire, but I got five good days of peace and my attention to the matter made no difference to anyone else.
You are going to die no matter what. There was never any outcome where you live forever. It doesn't set you back, it sets you free.
its not the dying i fear, it is the suffering along the way
Life IS suffering.
You're doing it wrong
life is a detour to death. you know what they say, the most beautiful flowers grow besides the road, not on it.
The most beautiful flowers grow beside the road, but the best drugs are found on the streets. - Jesus H. Christ
Did you know that the “H” stands for Howard? It was a custom in the Christ family for middle names of all the boys to be Howard.
Umm actually... It's Harold. As in, "Harold be thy (middle) name".
Anyone who says otherwise is selling something
The people down voting me disagree. They are privileged.
Dying would be a relief at this point. I’m not afraid of dying. I’m afraid for the 5 lives that depend on me to make it through every dumbass decision this administration makes to line their own pockets while taking from mine. These fluctuations occur every Sunday to manipulate money markets and give some white dude a huge boner.
Your nihilistic views may sound cool in your head, but caring for a family in this economy is far more detailed than just waiting to die.
Which administration?
If you're too cowardly for a revolution you're voting for this risk death or assure it or just hope everyone else is better than you and you're just uniquely a piece of shit is that really better edit I'm not saying you are I'm saying you're betting on being and in that case I kind of hope you are but I don't think so
I'd like to buy a period, Mr Sajak
That sounds painful why
So you choose to be a doomer and worry about things you can't control. Got it. I've got kids. I choose not to worry about things I can't control and do what I can about the things I can control.
Your nihilistic views may sound cool in your head
An entire religion/philosophy that has lasted over 2500 years was based on the concept, but I guess you got it all figured out. Honestly, your hostility speaks louder than your words. Sounds like you have a lot going on, and I hope you find your way.
I hope we all find our way.
Amen, brother.
Here’s my philosophy:
If it’s something I can’t control then it’s not worth worrying about.
If it’s something I can control then it’s not worth worrying about.
In the past, despite death, you could look forward to leaving a legacy and a better world for future generations.
Nobody has such hope anymore. It's almost universally agreed that our children's lives will be worse than ours.
It's not universally agreed. You're just terminally online. Lemmy is full of despair. There's hope outside of the Internet.
It is a mathematical certainty that the majority of life on the planet will be significantly less biologically viable at the most basic level due to a littany of ecological contaminants and heat stress.
Lower energy, over stressed immune systems, difficulty or inability to build certain body structures/tissues, low fertility, directional confusion during migrations..... Etc...
The list is endless and absolutely affects humans. We are living during the hottest time that our SPECIES has ever experienced. The only reason it's not universally agreed is becaus you couldn't get universal agreement that oxygen is nice to have around.
I miss the good old days when people were worried because some long dead calendar maker, didn't bother to prepare the calendar a few hundred years in advance.
They were pretty accurate about when the world would end. It's just been a slow, gradual end since then.
Maybe that calendar wasn't the end of the world, just when the end started.
So you mean it was the beginning of the end of the world?
only "ai takeover" that is going to happen is mass surveillance so billionaires can control us better, if we let them.
we're gonna let them
My profession has already largely disappeared thanks to AI. I’m not alone, either. Thousands of people are getting laid off each week. The surveillance is a fringe benefit compared to the savings that billionaires can achieve by replacing humans with machines.
It should be our savings, btw. Workers built every last bit of tech that is enabling this, billionaires just stole it.
Personally, I think the real target is ownership of cyberspace/ computing as a whole, with the workforce cuts and the surveillance as fringe benefits/ part of the world domination plan.
Buy out all the processors and memory for a couple years, and all the retail market will be left with is net books and phones that are essentially e-readers. No more saving your files on your computer or downloading programs, everything becomes cloud/ web based and they have access to it all.
Just as important as AI tracking our every move physically, it will be tracking everything we see and do digitally.
Middle manager? Yes-man?
No, I’m definitely not management material. If I was, I wouldn’t have been one of the people getting laid off.
Oh, you can forget all of those things. Just get up now and go outside. Take everything in. Because soon it will never be like that ever again. Climate change is going to destroy so much.
Yup. If the infinite growth machine can't make a profit fixing climate change, it simply won't be fixed.
No amount of home recycling, power saving, water reduction, etc. you can do will offset the pollution generated by companies in the pursuit of money.
It’s honestly too late to fix most of it. The environment will continue to get worse for at least a few hundred years due to the damage already caused. Even if we stopped all emissions, pollution, habitat destruction, and overexploitation of natural resources today, we will still see catastrophic changes to the ecosphere we evolved in.
90% insect population decline. It's right there in our faces, and (not) on our windshields. I drive a lot for work and there's just so few bug splatters compared to 10 years ago or especially compared to 20 or more. I remember 20 years ago a three hour trip this time of year would have your car absolutely plastered with bug guts. Last Friday I drove 10 hours and cleaned my windshield at the end, but it wasn't because I couldn't see.
We saw it bounce back during Covid fast. I cant help but think this bullshit is exactly what these oil companies want you to think.
This is all based on actual science that I went to school for, have a degree in, and studied for years afterwards.
The only thing that really bounced back during covid was air pollution in big cities. Global warming didn't stop, the polar caps were still melting and the insect population didn't meaningfully increase again. Less immediate pollution is nice for the people living there, but on a global scale it made next to no difference.
Environmental collapse laughs.
Just wait until we hit the ocean acidification tipping point where it becomes chemically impossible for certain tiny creatures at the base of the food chain to form calcium-based hard shells.
The whole ocean won't hit that point all at the same time, but once we get close, it will happen very rapidly, affecting most of the oceans in the world within a few years. Entire ocean ecosystems will rapidly collapse when the bottom of the food chain falls out from under them. Already-strained fisheries will suddenly run completely out of fish, quickly driving the last few populations to extinction. But that's only the tip of the iceberg for our problems. Those tiny organisms have a profound impact on the entire world's climate and weather patterns, as well as being a huge part of the carbon cycle. When the oceans die, the effects felt on land will be extreme. And it will drastically accelerate carbon accumulation and climate change -- those calcium-based hard shells are calcium carbonate, which incorporate carbon and often end up sequestering it on the sea floor when the creature dies, where it could stay locked away for millions to billions of years. Without them removing carbon from circulation, climate change will get far worse and accelerate much faster (which, in turn, makes ocean acidification worse, so there's no going back once we hit that tipping point).
Uh-Oh
At this point I'm just trying to enjoy what I can in my immediate surroundings. When I am outside tending to my critters, I often wonder if today will be the day the sky is filled with a blinding light from the south then a very chaotic and consequential minute or two after that.
But deep down that is probably a fantasy. The world is not that exciting. Instead we get to slowly watch how many people the billionaires can starve as long as we still have a working internet.
Don't forget climate collapse!
The forgotten stove backburner is still on, but we left the house
Nuclear winter will undo global warming. Global warming can be seen as a merciful preparation for a global nuclear war.
Nah, global warming is on much larger scales than nuclear winter. Well get a few years or decades of winter and then a quick rebound to warming. Even worse than just the warming, because at least that happens gradually and gives nature and people time to adapt.
Compared to climate change for the past millennium, even the smallest exchange modeled would plunge the planet into temperatures colder than the Little Ice Age (the period of history between approximately 1600 and 1850 AD). This would take effect instantly, and agriculture would be severely threatened.
In the 150 Tg case they found that:
A global average surface cooling of −7 °C to −8 °C persists for years, and after a decade the cooling is still −4 °C (Fig. 2). Considering that the global average cooling at the depth of the last ice age 18,000 yr ago was about −5 °C, this would be a climate change unprecedented in speed and amplitude
True, but it would still revert to global warming after that. Probably even way worse because a lot of the vegetation cover would be dead, so think desert weather : very cold nights and very hot days.
And whatever nature managed to adapt and survive the winter would probably be killed off by the warming afterwards. Yeah.
Yes, for a few decades. And then we'd go straight into warming again.
The only solution: a new nuclear war every 50 or so years. Solar radiation management is for suckers, real men use nukes!
Never hurts to have extra food and water...and toilet paper
Don't need to worry about toilet paper when you have bidet.
You seem awefully sure about your water supply
Scat-fetish-gf looking pretty hot all of a sudden
The water supply issue is super location specific, which is why it will likely be one of the triggers of WWIII. Certain parts of Canada, for example, are basically a fractal of freshwater lakes and not among the areas likely to suffer desertification.
Portables exist! I don't have one...but I could!
And a bidet.
How about and environmental and economic collapse caused by ai, while fighting WW3, leaving us helpless to combat the next pandemic.
Polycrisis! I CHOOSE YOU!!
I'm gonna wing it.
wildcard
Old mate: I mean just look at it.
Me: What?
Old mate: This. All of it. A billion miles of sterile space and billion dead years either side of our miraculous existence and here you are bitching about your little problems. The sun will wipe this lot clean soon enough. Get over yourself.
Me: Um, sorry mate. You OK?
Simmons: You ever wonder why we’re here?
Grif: It's one of life's great mysteries isn't it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence, or is there really a God watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff. I don't know, man, but it keeps me up at night.
And some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon.
Certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this
stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit.
I kind of think the opposite.
If the gift of existence is so rare, then don't we have a responsibility to make the most of it? The big question is to which end.
I'm not a fan of accelerationists.
Lyrics from Tool's "Aenema".
Aahh, I didn't spot it.
Thanks
All of the above unfortunately
I'm not worried about a pandemic. If scientific experts with no connections to the Republican party say the Hanta virus is low risk to spread, then I trust them.
Same from scientists with no connections to the Labour party....I think were safe.
Don't worry about this pandemic.
But the next one, and the one after that? Maybe worth worrying about. Sooner or later, one that is a high risk will come around. And if it happens within the next 3 years or so, you can count on this regime doing exactly the wrong thing and making it worse than it otherwise would have been. Even if it happens later than that, with a responsible government in charge ... there's only so much that even a good government can do against a truly virulent plague.
Not Hanta specifically. The CDC has expexted a pandemic every 5-10 years since 2014
You forgot nuclear war.
Oh... thanks...
That's pretty much implied by WW3.
And the Yellowstone super volcano.
You guys can stop adding things now. Im tired already.
Let's redo these trajectory calculations on the asteroid Apophis. Just to be safe. Probably nothing.
That's like the best possible outcome.
Definitely all of the above.
AI takeover causes economic collapse. Economic collapse causes WW3. WW3 causes another pandemic. (And, meanwhile, climate change is slowly destroying the environment, accelerating the economic collapse, worsening the pandemic, and being accelerated by AI and WW3.)
Yep, we're already last the tipping point. Enjoy what ya got while it still exists because we are fucked
This is why I cry all the time.
in trek, over 600million people died in a nuclear holcaust of ww3.
I like those odds!
It's indeed not bad. Usual nuclear winter simulations have billions dying.
AI will fight WWIII while causing the economic collapse and giving you really bad medical advice that creates the next and last pandemic. The final frontier. Just as God intended.
Ever since 2022 the jack-in-a-box music has been playing and Jack sure is taking his sweet fucking time.
Arrest pedophiles and all our problems would be solved instantly.
E ) All of the above.
None of the above. Living in ignorance of things you can't fix anyway is comfy
HAMOND!
Do what I do. Stockpile stuff to get through the first 2-4 weeks. But have your house sabotaged in such a way that anything useful to anyone is destroyed, eat a fistful of sleeping pills and a deadmans switch to burn the whole thing down.
Ew
Yeah sounds like "single bearded alcoholic" is an apt username
SingleMalt is a type of scotch
I am aware.
Nah, if we get that far, I'm going out BIG.
There's going to be a lot of starvation in the near future.
The most vulnerable will be affected first and now, the privileged will face it probably by next year at the latest when fertilizer isn't available on a massive scale.
What’s going to happen when ai takes control of your mom’s bluetooth vibrator?
The preparations for all of them are similar. Get off grid and self sustained
WW3 will be fought between AI and a combination of COVID and Hantavirus that have mutated together into a super diesease that causes an economic collapse.
You got that decease in your white house already.
Why not get ready for a global happy society? Instead of preparing for doom, time can be spent on making the world good.
You can both work for a better future while also prepare for a bad outcome.
OK Doomer
Welcome to lemmy, we're all doomers here!
Hey, don't slander us Solarpunks ツ
This resonates with me
Me, a procrastinator: eh, it can wait
With any luck, a new pandemic will throw a wrench into WWIII.
Caves are overrated. Food is impossible to get without venturing out, electrical power can only be supplied from outside, water can be challenging (especially wastewater removal), the complete lack of light and prevalence of mold can be bad for your health. Even fresh air supply might be a concern in some cases.
Personally, I'm leaning toward a solar-powered sailboat as the perfect 'ride out the apocalypse' strategy.
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You can easily relocate to distance yourself from all kinds of threats, avoiding wars, disease outbreaks, etc.
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Water can easily be supplied via desalination 'water makers', powered by your solar panels. In the event that this goes wrong somehow, you can also resupply by sailing up into any navigable freshwater river, or build simple evaporation-based solar desalinators.
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Some of your diet can be provided by fishing. For the rest (and occasional repairs and replacement parts), you can barter at ports of call. No matter what's happening in the world, there will still be people somewhere who are interested in moving passengers and cargo from one port to another. And if global trade is broken down, you may be able to bring valuable barter goods by transporting things that can't be found locally.
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Waste disposal and sanitation is easy; just dump it overboard before sailing to a new location. (Preferably, you'd only dump biodegradable stuff, though, and only in the open ocean, where environmental effects of small dumping will be negligible. But if there's no other choice and you really need to dump some plastic waste or something ... well, the environment can take one more for the team.)
I know this would probably be hella difficult and often dangerous.. But it also sounds fun, cool and punk as fuck lol
You already live in your bedroom at your parents, harder to get more cave like than that
Yes. Put nice furniture in your bunker
Yeah... In situations like these, you kinda just have to do whatever you can do.
Unless you're someone with the power to actually influence policy of the country you live in - in which case what the fuck are you doing reading this, fix your shit - then you realistically can't do jack about these issues.
If you try to fight every battle that's coming our way, rally behind every issue, you'll get burnt out - and that's exactly what those sending them to you want to happen.
There's nothing we can do individually. But there are a lot of us.
If just 0.1% of us ate one rich person each, we could make huge strides toward solving this problem.
I’m planting a garden but to be fair it will probably just get sprayed with roundup by the pedophile class like all of the Forrest’s
Not the shrimp boat Dan, not the fucking shrimp boat!
Fallout.
How do Chinese people feel?
Cramped
AI take over what? Unless they attach a real consciousness by trying to teach the sentence generators reasoning, no such thing will happen.
This is naive. You think it needs to be intelligent to be used for evil? Have you watched ANY American politics?
Again, thinking someone/something needs to be super intelligent to take power is not good. They get power because stupid people thinking they're intelligent will put them in power
Power like "excuse for bad decisions"?
GOD, I NEVER thought I'd pine for the "unprecedented" times.
Look, I got AuDHD. When it goes to shit ill be ready.
I won't be ready BEFORE it all goes to shit, but once if does...
por que no los all of the above?
F) Move to a dreamy Mediterranean island in middle of nowhere and worry about nothing. :)
- How many islands do you think there are in the mediterranean?
- How many of those are uninhabited? (And why?)
- Do you realise how close you are to bigger nations there? It's not that isolated there.
Except rising sea levels
Download all seasons of original Top Gear and you're prepared for anything.