What is your favorite media villain?
1mon 3d ago by lemmy.fedioasis.cc/u/Cantaloupe in asklemmy from lemmy.fedioasis.cc
For me, it would be GLaDOS.
Portal 2 spoiler
She deleted the one remaining human part of herself because it was just too much to deal with. She releases you at the end of Portal 2 as a path of least resistance measure because "killing you is hard."
What about you, what is your favorite media villain?
Here are the test results: You're a horrible person. That's what it says. A horrible person. We weren't even testing for that.
Your favourite media villain
Easy answer: Rupert Murdoch
Australia's most embarrassing export
Followed by Ken Hamm
And Nicole Kidman is awful, she's friends with Murdoch
It's actually why I listed the James Bond villain Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies because he was an analogue for Murdoch, a media magnate who wanted to control the world through disinformation. It was a prescient character, because that was still during 1997, long before FOX News had become the danger it actually is. Yet Carver is pretty on-the-nose for what actually ended up happening and we didn't have a James Bond to save us.
I think Carver was a mixture of Murdoch and Maxwell. He certainly received Maxwells death.
Me reading these comments:
Sorry I had to
His superiority complex is tangible
But Homer! On your way out if you want to kill somebody, you would help me a lot.
Honestly, he was such an amazing boss
Hammocks? My goodness, what an idea!
Ever seen a man yell at his shoes?
Heh heh, yeah once...
Gul Dukat was the better villain in my eyes. At least he was way more interesting than Kai Winn.
My vote as well.
He constantly finds the piece of humanity within whoever hes talking to and then tries to manipulate it.
Its hard to top Gul Dukat.
The great thing about Dukat is that he frequently finds his own humanity. You keep thinking that this time he'll do the right thing and start his path to redemption, but he never does. He always chooses to do the wrong thing even though there's clearly good in him and you're always disappointed and even surprised when it happens. He's like the anti-Zuko.
They're both excellent at being different kinds of evil.
Winn is prideful and ambitious above all else. She sides with good and evil both at different times in service to her own goals. She deludes herself into believing anything that pursuit of personal power is also what serves Bajor.
Winn commits evil in service to her ambitions.
Dukat has the same vices, but with added elements of narcissism and wrath. He briefly tries being good, and almost reaches it when he finds genuine love for and from his daughter, but when his actions lead to her death he lashes out at the universe and becomes entirely consumed by wrath and megalomania.
Dukat's ambition in the end is to commit evil.
I am looking for the like and subscribe buttons for this long-form video essay dissecting Star Trek antagonists, but I don't see any. đ
It's been ages I saw a ytp and I never was quite the fan, but this right there is a fucking masterpiece.
I was about to just check it and ended up watching the whole thing.
"Attention bajoran workers! My wife left me" had me wheezing.
Sexcellent
The Quark "Nice Cock" poster almost made me ruin my monitor with water.
i like weyoun he sorta trolls siskos but is a serious vorta.
I think the counter to that is that:
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they completely dropped the ball with her toward the end of the show. She went from, I think, a great allegory for a religious radical right wing capitalizing off her people's suffering but in a way she could genuinely warp her beliefs into thinking was for the greater good...
... to, I mean, come on... Having her go totally crazed with power and disavowing the Prophets wasn't the problem; it's that it was stupid, egregiously paced, totally unearned MacGuffin power without grounded stakes that only served to make an already-rushed resolution to the show feel even more rushed.
The Goat. Simply evil.
No, the guy she was boning was.
rip Nurse rachette.
StandartenfĂźhrer Hans Landa.
"That's a Bingo!"
Beat me to it :)
Prince Arthas Menethil from Warcraft.
[Quietly sweeps WoW:Shadowlands under the rug]
Dudes villian arc is perfect, his fall is entierly of his own making. Playing as him in Warcraft 3, you follow his reasoning and by the time the corruption sets in, its far too late. In the expansions, you play as him in full BBEG mode. Lastly, WoW:Wrath of the Lich King had him as the capstone boss of one of the best expansions and 15 years of buildup.
And they never expanded on his character ever again...
The Warcraft movie should have just been WC3.
With an extended edition bordering 4 hours, like LotR
Sure, but they just needed a story compelling to people completely new to the ip for the first movie if there was ever going to be a second.
Best cinematic cut scene ever. Succeeding you
Sorry for such a "capeslop" answer, but:
He definitely gets a mention. I wish they actually explored what Kingpin wanting to "change the city" meant, though, because the disney+ shows make it seem like he just wants to sell weapons and be rich. They really took a crap on his character after endgame / season3 of Daredevil.
All the netflix DD villains were just golden. What a ride.
Primal Fear:
Aaron Stampler, and his defence attorney Martin Vail.
Dude thanks for the reminder, he was a compelling villain. I loved his romance arc. I don't really remember what happens
I donât really remember what happens
A brief recap of the character Wilson Fisk for anyone interested (TW: gore descriptions) part 1
- When he was a boy, lived in Hell's Kitchen. 70s or 80s. It was rough, because most people there were poor.
- His dad, Bill, was an abusive lunatic who took money from the mob to fund a campaign for the city council. He beat Wilson Fisk and his mom.
- One day Bill Fisk, frustrated with how Wilson was treated by other kids, attacks a teenager who bullied him. He brought Wilson along for this and insists that Wilson kicks the shit out of this teenager when he's on the ground.
- They go home, Bill Fisk is yelling at and attacking his wife. Wilson kills him with a hammer. Keeps hitting him, yelling "Keep kicking him!" To himself, just as he was ordered earlier.
- Wilson and his mom cut up the body to dump it in the river, then leave New York to evade mafia.
Cut to 2014
- Fisk is now a financier funneling money into fake companies to hide criminal profits
- works with 3 armed criminal groups in an alliance, basically managing their united business interests
- Completely non-public figure, you get the impression he prefers controlling things from the shadows - commanding other organisations and other individuals to do his will.
- These groups are into really shady things. The Russian mob kidnaps and trafficks people, the chinese mob has brainwashed slaves that process opium(?) for distribution across New York/the USA
Kingpin, the big heartless bastard, meets a woman. He falls in love.
- They both love fine things
- he's trying to hide his criminal life from her
- in a devation from the source material, fisk is forced to admit to her (Vanessa) that he's a gangster.
- Now, because the criminaks groups are being hounded by Daredevil, they're starting to rebel against Kingpin. So he chooses to turn on them, one after another.
- He presents this to Vanessa from a moral high ground, citing that he ia destroying the Russian mob because they kidnapped a child.
- She thinks this is reasonable, and stays with him.
So eventually Fisk is thwarted by Daredevil, even though he has an intricate system in place with many failsafes, and kills anyone who might release the truth about him.
He goes to jail.
part 2
Fisk finds himself in a corrupt Jail where different gangs rule different cell blocks. After being threatened by the "Kingpin" of his block, he uses his (very liquefied) financial assets to do favours for a number of people who aren't out to kill him, eventually buying himself a prison gang. Fisk uses them to kill the Kingpin of his cell block, and eventually becomes the new Kingpin of the entire prison, even controlling some, roughly half, of the guards there.
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Kingpin, from prison, still has enough people employed outside of prison that he can blackmail members of the FBI in new york.
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He pays someome to stab him, then negotiates with the FBI that he needs enhanced protrction and will rat on various criminals
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This allows him to clear out organised criminal competition in New York and live in... a penthouse, for some reason. Not enough new yorkers question why he gets such nice digs. It's because he took control of the local FBI branch
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he expands his control over the remaining agents and is getting ready to marry Vanessa in the hotel where he is "incarcerated."
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bribedcoerced FBI agent who went against Kingpin's wishes creates a confession tape, listing all of Kingpin's crimes, before he gets killed. This dying confession is strong evidence in court because "a dying person has no reason to lie." (Real legal mechanic for new york or america, apparently) -
Fisk goes to prison... this time, for GOOD
:::
But then here's where disney+ ruins that
- Kingpin is now out of jail for good, as if ray nadeem's sacrifice wasn't worth anything (unrealistic)
I would not have even minded his presence in Echo and Hawkeye, if they'd just explained that there was a prison break and he was completely in hiding now. Taking control of prisons is literally what he does best and why he has the nickname "Kingpin" in the MCU
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Fisk for 2 more seasons? Going through the same old motions as before? With not a singlee daredevil season with other characters as pallate cleanser? Nah. It doesn't work.
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He's publically a criminal and people still vote for him. You've got to understand this is way more significant than Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, various real world figures. Fisk took over the police and the FBI and is associsted with opium pushers and human traffickers. Why would anyone vote for him?
::: What really makes kingpin special is just, all the littke things though. It's an amazingly cohesive and poetic narrative. Nowadays villains are rarely treated as poetic characters, like heroes are.
Omar Little, The Wire
âI got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. Itâs all in the game, though, right?â
I would not have thought of Omar as a villain. The man even takes a stand against criminals killing people not in the game.
I bet the dealers he steals from would consider him a villain.
Excellent!
"Here come Omar!"
If favorite is a villain whose motivation was pure and got perverted by his obsession and still awesome:
General Woundwort
If favorite = one i hate the most, it is a tie between:
Joffrey
Ramsey
If favorite is a villain who is cool as hell it is a tie between
Voldemort
Hans Gruber
Jean-Baptiste Emmanuel Zorg. He's a monster.
The only right answer.
Fire one million
OP asked for media villain, not real lifeâŚ
It's the other way around, biff's character is inspired by Trump.
I've always been fond of Magneto. He's a dick about it, but I see where he's coming from.
He is a proper villain in that he wants to change the system while the protagonists want to maintain the status quo.
GLaDOS is mine, too.
(spoilers ahead, play it if you havenât)
In my first playthrough, I didnât see it coming, and I felt like she was my friend. That was a relationship twist Iâve never had in a game, and I really appreciated what they did there.
e: if youâre looking for other game recs that fuck with you, Iâd say What Remains of Edith Finch.
Yeah I love GLaDOS too. How many bad guys get plugged into a potato.
Scorpius from Farscape is a fantastic villain. He was meant to be a one off villain of the week for a clip show. By the time the episode was finished it was a two parter that had only a few seconds of clips, and instead set up the plot elements that would drive the rest of the series, with Scorpius at the heart of it all.
He's one of the rare genius villains that's actually written well enough to seem smart. He's ruthless but not unreasonable. He's horrific, but also charming. He's a bottomless pit of hatred and vengeance, and yet he is cold and calculating, perpetually in control. I've heard him described as mirror universe spock turned up to 11 and I kind of agree.
Plus, we also get Harvey.
See also: David Xanatos. Imagine if Bruce Wayne put all that effort and planning into villainy, mad science and sorcery, theoretically for money but really just for the fun of it. Now give him an Iron Man suit and the voice of Jonathan Frakes. He's an evil genius that's so good at what he does that his name is literally synonymous with plans can only end in a win.
There's a facet of Xanatos that puts him into the top tier of villains: he never seeks revenge. At some point nearly every character in Gargoyles goes out looking to get revenge on someone who wronged them, but Xanatos just keeps on trying to make himself powerful and immortal and not letting himself get wrapped around the axle trying to destroy the main characters. Shredder, Lex Luthor, Voldemort, Joker... so many villains are defined by their obsessive fixation on their heroes. Not Xanatos, because he's too fucking cool to be bothered.
âI am burdened with glorious purpose.â
Tom Hiddleson has incredible charisma
One of my favorites as an adult, and one that scared the living shit outta me as a kid. Jude Doom from who framed Roger Rabbit.
Andrew Scott as Moriarty he was so fun
There's something genuinely compelling about SHODAN.
They're malignant, objective evil, yet when they talk about their goals and ambitions, they seem almost benevolent, which makes them even more unsettling.
It's like something telling you to calm down while it's sawing off your legs to replace them with mechanical versions because it's "improving you".
You didn't ask to be improved.
"Look at you hacker, a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors."
Has a similar feeling to Mark Twain's The Mysterious Stranger
SHODAN introduced my prepubescent brain to the concept of being "scaroused".
Similarly, the cybermen just want to upgrade everyone.
It has to be this way.
Time to watch that Videogame Dunkey explainer again
Oh man what is this? Something about this guy makes me automatically agree with you that heâs a great villain.
The senator from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
https://youtu.be/LmWQd8zhEg4
The dlc variant of him is insanely difficult
Favorite Sci-Fi Villain: SHODAN from System Shock/System Shock 2
Favorite Fantasy Villain: The Nothing from Neverending Story
Favorite Bond Villain: Elliot Carver from Tomorrow Never Dies because the writers touched on something quite prescient here about media moguls wanting to control society a la Rupert Murdoch and Mark Zuckerberg.
Favorite Disney-esque Villain: Raphael from Baldur's Gate III for his "Raphael's Final Act" song.
Favorite Actual Disney Villain: Lord Hater from Wander Over Yonder
Favorite Action Villain: Hans Gruber from Die Hard
Another vote for SHODAN from me! Founded my love for "Through the looking glass" and everything that followed, like my soul animal, the common Mimic lol
Silco from Arcane.
I often struggle with media villains, finding them unrealistic or unconvincing, but Silco is just so well-rounded and well-written, he elevates the quality of every other character he interacts with. In a series full of near- and actually-superpowered people, this weak, middle-aged man is the most terrifying and influential of them all.
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His absence from season two is one of the reasons why it flops compared to season one; Ambessa and Viktor are good characters, but weak villains.
I feel like everyone is a villain in that series.
And I think that's because everyone is very well written and has a full profile rather than being one-or-two dimensional good/evil.
what is this from????
I'd guess it's a fan edit of a videogame cutscene or one of the SW animated shows, slapping Jar Jar's face on some other character. I haven't heard of Darth Jar Jar showing up in media in any other than the vague hints dropped in canon or in easter eggs.
There's a LEGO set that has Darth Jar Jar
ahh yeah, i know the meme but this looks more than just slapping Jar Jar's face on it. Maybe the original version is from a video game, because I don't recognize the jedi from being in any of the animated shows
I've always liked Dr. Doom a lot. Never had a good adaptation in movies, but he's great in the comics.
Doom is intriguing because he's only evil in that he wants total control because he believes no one can run it better than him.
Ming the Merciless
as played by Max von Sydow in the 1980 film Flash Gordon
Ming is this potentially goofy over-the-top villain, but Sydow's portrayal makes him dignified, threatening, majestic and malevolent, never laughable.
Same with Frank Langella's performance as Skeletor in the terrible Masters of the Universe film
I only remember the animated series from my childhood on Saturday mornings
Idk who my all time favorite is, but I just finished rewatching Clone Wars and man I had forgotten how much I liked Hondo Ohnaka
Maul: âFilth! You will pay for your insolence!â
Hondo: âInsolence?! We are pirates! We donât even know what that means.â
also the line right before this when Hondo says "who are these horny headed maniacs"
They should hijack a library
Handsome Jack.
Best hero to villain in a game yet. Plus dude had charisma for days so even though he was a clear cut asshole you couldn't help but love his antics.
Butt Stallion is an amazing throwaway joke, just so much thought put into even the stupid stuff.
I'm going to pick a slightly more obscure one: Kane from Command & Conquer.
Obscure? I think every gamer in my age group (Xennials) knows the leader of NOD.
Let's see Kane deal with Premier Cherdenko.
Bro, Joe Kucan just did not age in that role.
The man really is an alien
The Prophet of Truth from Halo 2. Cunning bastard, one of 3 prophets at the helm of an immense alien civilization, manages to get the other two eliminated, apppropriating all the power, creating a martyr and exacerbating the passion against the human enemy in the process, observes that one caste (the Sangheili) is a little too smart to keep buying his lies so replaces them with a more brutish, loyal caste, the Jiralhanae...
Best voice actor of the game by far, too.
Such a clever weasel
Oh, it's you. It's been a looong time; how have you been? I've been really busy being DEAD. You know? After you murdered me? Look, we both said a lot of things you're going to regret, but I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster.
I find... we'll just say "the villain" of Undertale compelling, but it's one of my favorite games so I'm a little biased.
emm, actually, that's from half life 2!
An old one, but the Emperor from Gladiator. His death is among the most satisfying in movie history. Absolutely amazing performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
I just watched gladiator to show the kid for the first time and for me it was the first time in 20 years, he was wonderful. I then watched "space camp" a few days ago which id never seen and Phoenix's 11-year+old face jumped out of that.
Showing the kid "Sneakers" now, and the kid was blown away Phoenix had a brother (River) who was also an actor.
Genuinely the scariest movie villain
sega killer
The washroom beating was brutal.
Hadn't been him the one playing the part, that was almost an slasher.
The most villainous thing he did was be around so fucking much.
Joe Morden in Babylon 5. I do not know much about the actor, but he was cast perfectly.
Or Bester. Koenig did a great job of making that character hateable.
Truthfully, while i thought he was a great villain, i think Bester was even better. Walter Koenig played him perfectly. But, the main thing that made him better was his complexity. He believed he was doing the right thing even when hunting down his fellow telepaths, and on some occasions, he was right, and rogue telepaths were a threat. So, sometimes Bester was in the wrong, and sometimes he was right, which in my opinion made him a better villain than one who is always evil.
JMS (or his casting director) really did make some excellent casting choices, didn't he?
What do I want? I want to live long enough to be there when they put your head on a pike as a warning to future generations that some deals come with too high a price. I want to look up into your cold dead eyes, and wave. Like this. đ
Killmonger from Black Panther. He had a pretty valid perspective, for the most part
Thank you!
I also find it strange how easily everybody just abandoned their traditions and started to support Black Panther.
Killmonger was the legitimate heir both because of his lineage and because of the right of combat
I mean if there was an impartial historian writing about what happened, they would write Black Panther took the power back by an coup.
Similarly to Bane in The Dark Knight, the writer was trying to attack a perspective they didn't actually understand and had to add in a bunch of pointless, self-defeating evil to make the guys fighting for the status quo the good guys.
Are you still there?âŚ
I don't hate you
Hmm, a rather difficult question, I have quite a lot of them and I could not get attached to any of them, well, maybe him:
and him:
Brother Justin in CarnivĂ le
Great character, great show!
I wish they would have gotten one more season. I loved that show so much.
Shigaraki Tomura, Boku no Hero Academia.
For starters, heâs this regular emo kid (about 19-20), except heâs got like a dozen disembodied hands grasping him from his torso and arms to his head and face.
The reason for the hands is pretty bizarre. Spoilers for the second half of season 5:
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He killed his whole family, including his sister, parents, and grandparents, and was adopted by the worldâs greatest villain, who preserved the hands and attached them to him to remind him where he came from.
Oh, his super power? âDecay.â Anything he lays all five fingers on turns to ash. Itâs as awesome and terrible as it sounds. Whatâs worse? Final season spoilers:
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Decay wasnât originally his power. The greatest villain can steal and give out powers. He actually took Shigarakiâs original power and replaced it with Decay. He set him up for failure and then adopted him to turn him into a monster.
The author, Horikoshi Kohei, is a huge Star Wars nerd. If Shigaraki Tomura sounds like âanime Darth Vader,â thatâs intentional. Except when âanime Luke Skywalkerâ tried to turn him back to good, final season spoilers:
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It doesnât work. Shigaraki tells Midoriya heâs too far gone and gives him a message to tell his best friend, another, minor, villain he played League of Legends with â Iâm not kidding, they drop that name â and Midoriya delivers the message. Which is basically that right up to the end, he wanted to destroy everything. The message has the intended effect of showing the younger man that he was wrong.
And the kicker? Minor season 5 spoiler:
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Shigaraki Tomura wasnât even his name. Shigaraki was the family name of the villain who adopted him. His birth name was Shimura Tenko â he was also the grandson of Midoriyaâs mentorâs mentor.
Note that all names use the Japanese naming convention of giving the family name before the given name (e.g. âLincoln Abrahamâ), and the show is known outside of Japan as My Hero Academia.
Edit: I also like GLaDOS. YSK sheâs also in Cyberpunk 2077, if only in spirit. Ellen McLain reprises her role and reuses some lines while voicing a psychotic robotaxi. I assume, with permission from Valve (who probably loved the cameo).
robby rotten
I really love Killgrave as portrayed by David Tennant in season 1 of Jessica Jones. A completely amoral hedonist with the power of absolute mind control over anyone he speaks to. He is absolutely terrifying.
I don't have one favorite villain in particular, but...
The Good Place spoilers
Michael is the villain for part of the series, and oh boy is he devilish. I mean, in season 2 (i think) he is literally the devil as far as the main cast is concerned. "I can't believe you figured it out!" perfect delivery. Just wow.
oh, and also Megamind. Megamind is my favorite. I need to rewatch that movie, and completely ignore the "sequel".
Megamind was the first thing that popped to my mind without thinking further. Was hoping someone said it, didn't have to scroll that far either.
Blaine from iZombie. He's 100% bastard, and the show tries to humanise him by showing us origins and "how could he be any different" and so on, but he's always great on screen.
Abijah Fowler from Blue Eye Samurai, one of the only four white men in Japan who might be the father of the protagonist. He's one of the few who manage to challenge the protagonist in combat, but you're not just watching for that. The dialogue for the show is top notch, but any time he comes up you know you're in for a treat. My favorite is still "Are you--still alive? Why?", but here's a reasonably spoiler-free scene.
Baron Harkonnen, from the David Lynch dune film.
Moar spice!
David Robert Jones.
There's just something so classy about this guy, and he does the coolest stuff.
yessssss
Catherine Foundling, the Protagonist of A Practical Guide to Evil.
But I don't know if this counts. Catherine has only the best intentions and many Heros are kinda Dicks in PGtE. She definitely causes a lot of (what she considers) necessary suffering to end unnecessary suffering. And in-universe she undeniably is a Villain, but as the villain protagonist it's hard to argue that she's on the same page as villain antagonists.
I like the black knight from the same work.
None of it is earned. It is handed to them, and this offends me.â
âYou asked me what I want,â Black said. âThis once, just this once, I want us to win.â
The smile across his face was a cutting, vicious thing.
âTo spit in the eyes of the Hashmallim. To trample the pride of all those glorious, righteous princes. To scatter their wizards and make their oracles liars. Just to prove that it can be done.â
There was something his eyes burning like coals and embers.
âSo that five hundred years from now, a band of heroes shiver in the dark of night. Because they know that no matter how powerful their sword or righteous their cause, there was once a time it wasnât enough. That even victories ordained by the Heavens can broken by the will of men.â
Oh yeah! Soooo many of the things that make Cat cool she learned as the Squire to the Black Knight. I love his worldview, his genre-savy and blunt pragmatism.
His little speech of why he chose Catherine over Akua is just Chef's kiss
I chose you Catherine Foundling, because I remember what it's like... that feeling in your stomach when you look at the world around you and you know you could do better.
The things Heiress knows, you can learn. Will learn.
But that indignation you have boiling under your skin?
That is not something that can be taught.
And that is exactly why, when the time comes... you will beat her.
Judge Holden from Blood Meridian is arguably the single most evil villain in any literature.
Also one of the best written.
Galactus. Not good, not evil. Just a big, hungry boy.
isnt he exactly like ULTRON from transformers, both somehow needs to eat planets to survive. but movies did both villians so dirty, barely give them any screentime.
First Steps gave Galactus plenty of screen time. Definitely did him justice in my opinion.
Forest Whitaker as Jon Kavanaugh in "The Shield"
He made me so viscerally upset. I saw it almost two decades ago but I still remember how strongly I felt
As a super Dune nerd, Erasmus.
From DC: Larfleeze and Volthoom tied. Oh! The Anti-Monitor too.
From Supernatural (the TV series), Crowley is amazing.
BSG: Dr. Gaius Baltar.
the show did crowley dirty in last few seasons.
if for no other reason than to have a bit of a different answer:
Raboniel from Rhythm of War by Brandon Sanderson
Her interaction with Navani made for some VERY good chapters
Incredible character, always had me guessing at her true motives and alignments. RoW was just an amazing installment in the series
Hans Landa because Christoph Waltz is just such a good actor
"What a fool you are. I'm a god. How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work in this place. Come. Lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my mercy." - Dagoth Ur in Morrowind
Kilgrave in Jessica Jones
Jesicaaaaaaaaaaa
Ketheric Thorm from Baldurs Gate 3. He has one of the coolest character introductions ever. Honestly I felt kind of bad for him learning his story. Also JK Simmons is one of my favorite actors.
"Try again" axe drop
âJust because I harbor the joy of killing your family inside me, doesnât mean we canât be friends.â â Sid 6.7
Ooh classic. Still one of Russell Crows best roles.
Final Fantasy XIV has some good ones. The most signature would be Emet Selch, from Shadowbringers. The big challenge on his part was that the "Ascians" were seen as these cringey, Kingdom Hearts-style grimdark villains for a long time, and Shadowbringers had the challenge of turning them into complex characters.
His voice actor, RenĂŠ Zagger, isn't even known for much more than that role and he plays it very well - achieving both jesting Kafka-esque mocking and jesting, as well as earnest, righteously-driven rage.
Another one, I'll only refer to as The Mastermind, from Ace Attorney Investigations 2. The whole game structures its 5 cases towards that pinpoint much better than you'd realize, while still telling a great story up until then. The Mastermind themselves acts in a somewhat melodramatic way before you identify them, but has some appreciable complexities to them that add to the character journey Edgeworth is getting in that game.
Sadavir Errinwright from The Expanse
Loved that its not just evil for no reason
He actually has a goal I can sympathize with
I feel like in the TV Portrayal at least, its like I can feel like he actually does kinda care about Earth...
in his own fucked up way, but still...
absolutely!
I don't have favorite villain. But have a favorite villain song from Disney - it is human and evil.
Savages - this og restored version is evil
Barely even huuu-man
Thanos was a great villain because he had a vision and wouldn't compromise. Granted his vision was horrific and flawed, but he held true to it.
It cannot be Thanos because he did nothing wrong.
I love how The Boys sets you up to think that Homelander is the most irredeemably evil person in the whole show, then later on you find yourself feeling bad for him and even kinda cheering for him for a little while.
At what point do you cheer for him? I am about to start the final season and he's been nothing but a psychopath
Yeah the writers didn't like how part of the audience sided with homelander in the first couple of seasons, so they did what writers do and took a hammer to the character.
What? Heâs always consistently been the heel of the show. The writers explaining his psychopathy to make you understand is not the same thing as signing off on it. Theyâve made that more clear as the seasons have progressed.
the heel of the show
i'm not familiar with that idiom. if you don't realize you've been getting an increasingly shallower version of the same character you've not been paying attention, it usually happens naturally in tv shows (flanderization) - like how homelander is suddenly asexual and breast milk obsessed. but yes the writers are pulling in every stop to make sure you hate the character because they understandably don't want people to root for the main villain which for some reason is trump 2.0, as if we needed yet another portrayal of that. the amount of shows that don't degrade after season 1 is incredibly low unfortunately.
That was a good read. I like hearing about an actorâs motivations when doing a scene, especially that scene, which was the one I was thinking of when I wrote my comment. See, I can acknowledge that Homelander is a psychopath, but as someone who has been hurt as a kid, I empathize with him in that moment. Yeah, you psycho motherfucker, get some. They deserve it. Doesnât mean I suddenly like him.
trump 2.0, as if we needed yet another portrayal of that
Well the show has always been allegorical. It just got to the point where the writers decided they couldnât be subtle about it anymore. Iâm okay with that. Was entertaining to see all the trumpanzees on social media going âWaitâŚthis show is making fun of us!??!?â
Sneaky, invasive advertising.
Frank Horrigan, that's who. U.S. Secret Service.
Look the number of times I've heard his voice lines has resulted in them being burned into my mind.
Michael Dorn did a bang up job voicing super mutants. Really glad they brought him back for Fallout: New Vegas. Too bad Marcus wasn't playable in NV.
Warhammer 40k has too many good options to list. The entire ork faction is great, although one of my personal favorites is Grizgutz, an ork who accidentally travelled back in time, and decided to kill himself to steal an extra copy of his favorite gun. The Necrons are also fun, for their unlimited capacity for arrogance and pettiness.
I always liked Abbadon myself
hard not to love DIO. He's evil and he loves it
Hex and Daemon from Reboot are both underrated. Hex has genius visual design for the limitations of the technology. And for a kids show, Daemon is very likable, which always makes a villain more compelling.
ODETTE!
He ate my lunch, definitely not a nice guy, no sirree
Shepard Lambert in Would You Rather?, played by Jeffrey Combs.
Picking a Jeffrey Combs role is cheating though.
Okay, fine. Monster (2004)'s Johan Liebert.
Long John Silver from Treasure Island. The OG and best anti-hero and heel turn of any character.
Miss Havisham from Great Expectations . An textbook example of how to do capricious rot.
Baby Jane played by Bette Davis from 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?'. God I love Bette Davis.
Traitor General from the comic Rogue Trooper. Traitor General has been a wonderful bastard over the years.
Arthur 'Cody' Jarrett played by James Cagney from 'White Heat'.
Clarence Bodicker played by Kurtwood Smith from 'Robocop'. "Can you fly, Bobby?" 'Nuff said.
Daimyo Matsudaira Naritsugu played by Goro Inagaki in Takashi Miike's '13 Assassins'. Perfect psychotic aristo upheld by corrupt flunkeys who has no real conception of the effects of his actions.
Prince Nuada played by one of the Bros twins from 'Hellboy II'. So sympathetic. Team Prince Nuada all the way.
Syd played by Peter Mullan from 'Children of Men'. Syd refers to himself in the third person (An actual sign of psychopathy) and does not care about anyone else, not even the first pregnant woman in a decade..
Begbie played by Robert Carlyle from 'Trainspotting'. "Nae cunt leaves here til we find oot what cunt glassed yon lassie." Never mind that he threw the glass.
The Borg. I was terrified of them as a little kid.
Desty Nova from alita (Not the generic villain Norton played in the movie, the one from the comic).
What's so great about him is that he doesn't have any interest to rule or destroy, but he loves to set the stage for interesting happenings and watch them unravel. But he loves flan more.
The Nameless One. From PS:T.
A very practical person!
Sir Captain Becket of the E I C
Dart Maul (from a german movie called (T)Raumschiff Suprise)
Bill Cypher
The villains of the Kings Men
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I really like the season 4 villain Toross Mordal, probably more than most any other villain in media in general. Mostly for how badass he is despite how decrepit he looks. Also for how he rules over his people with basically an eternal regret that he can never fully feed them due to their infinite hunger.
I known the trope of the villain having power that is basically the opposite type as the heroes is probably overdone, but I really like how he has mastered stasis, the opposite force to the life force of wakfu. It makes for an interesting enough villain since this is a villain that actually cannot die, unlike every other villain we've seen up until season 4. He's had the time to master his skills since he never has death to worry about.
I also like how he kinda ends up making the main character Yugo temporarily skirt the idea of using stasis alongside with his wakfu in a final showdown. It makes me hope we get some more cool stasis stuff in season 5, but more of an exploratory "this is why you don't use stasis" kinda way. We'd have Toross to thank and blame for Yugo having to learn the consequences of Stasis and I would love to see that.
Tied between Handsome Jack and Javert. Both misunderstood in their own ways.
the swarm from stanisĹaw lems "invincible" (not the invincible show, this is a completly unrelated sci fi novel) (also the swarm is not really a villian its more like defending its territory
Premier Cherdenko. That studio knew what they needed, and got exactly the right man for the job.
probably Junko Enoshima because she's so unmatchedly fucking bonkers batshit kookoo bananas unhinged insane but keeps it together just well enough to cause an apocalypse by shitposting really hard
Sand dan Glokta from the First Law series of gritty fantasy novels by Joe Abercrombie.
He is a crippled, razor-tongued former war hero turned inquisitor: physically ruined by torture but mentally sharp, cynical, and ruthlessly pragmatic.
Might be more of a monster than a villain, but I've loved the Disney version of the headless horseman since I was a kid. That laugh still gives me chills
Naraku, hes basically a troll that is also malevolent, oddly although he despises humans most of his goals dont harm them directly through out the series until the very end when hes get desperate, as he never targets humans directly unlike most other demons, or his own incarnation which he ends up killing to prevent them from interfering. or if you want to dig a little deeper, the shikon jewel is an amoral villian, sacrifices any user who made wishes to keep itself alive. hes a complex characther, he has much more contempt for demons than humans, eventhough he hates humans, but has not alright vindictiveness like he has against inuyash and his gang going on unless they gets in his way.
Hannibal Lecter. Hard to miss with one of the greatest of all time.
Good choice
Donald Trump?
/j
Is that the guy from The Apprentice?
he was in home alone.