Anon works out the question to the final solution
1mon 2d ago by sh.itjust.works/u/Gullible in greentext@sh.itjust.works from sh.itjust.works
>be me
>19
>autistic khhv
>lonely
>get great idea to work on my people skills
>join a friend finding server
>add foid
>we chat
>shits pretty boring she gives typical one word foid responses
>says shes a history major
>I know how to spice this conversation up
>I think about asking her the classic would you kill baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>but then an even better question dawns upon me
>would you molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>calls me a freak then blocks me
>hour later I get banned from the discord
>pic related
Staff
We don't need these "jokes" in our server. If you don't know better you present a risk we wish to not allow in our server.
Terms like "foid" are great in a way, because they make it very easy to identify assholes.
Definitely offered an abundance of context for their conversational partner’s curt responses. You don’t even need the rebuttal greentext, they’ve already confirmed everything.
What does it mean?
Chud Etymology, excerpt from lesson six, Women, or How They Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Self-Indulgent Misery
Foid <- Femoid <- Root 1: Fem android, implying women have no agency and are simply following society`s programming
<- Root 2: From Mongoloid, implying women are genetically inferior
<- Root 3: -oid (derogatory), used in english as a suffix to usually mean "having the likeness of or related to," meant to separate "Women (read: conservative trad-wife type idealized fantasy women)" and the rest of women.
Slur for women
Oh I thought that was Karen.
No, not even ironically.
Yeah that's uh... I mean I'm autistic and I was nowhere near that socially inept at age 19, damn.
Also, because I had to look it up:
khhv = kissless hugless handholdless virgin
There's no level of autism that can get you to think that talking about molesting baby Hitler would be a good idea, especially with a girl that anon is presumably trying to impress. There's a reason that anon is on 4chan, and it's not just autism.
Honestly, pretty sure not even autism causes a question like that to surface..
« be me, say I have autism to excuse my anti-social behaviours and refusing to see my own fault in this situation. Probably because of my higher brain chemistry and women’s fault »
“Not even”
Autism is officially the final boss of communication issues
behold, the Platonic ideal of the 4chan user
While in many ways it's genuinely hard to navigate neurotypical society with all its prejudice, it's also actually relatively easy to just not go there
it’s also actually relatively easy to just not go there
Into neurotypical society or broaching baby molestation? Because I’d have a harder time avoiding one than the other, but I won’t judge my experiences as the only correct ones.
Anon is ... special. And not in a good way.
I'd rather try and give baby Hitler a nice comfortable life with an understanding mentor, so that he never develops the hatred and closemindedness needed for the implementation of the Holocaust.
I'd let him be, he prevented a worse genocide by giving America the ick of eugrnics.
Hitler got the eugenics theories and the superior Arian race concept from americans.
don't kill hitler, go further back and kill Alexander the Great
say goodbye to the HRE and all the catholic romaboos that followed
Huh. I can't come up with a reason for why molesting baby Hitler feels so much more wrong than killing baby Hitler. You could even make the argument that it's less wrong.
Is it just because of how killing and death is so normalized in all of modern media?
Typical people deal with rape, murder is far rarer so there’s less “reality” to it. Go to a war torn country and you’d get a different response. Possivly “who is hitler?”
But, more specifically, the kill baby Hitler question already exists in the social ether to be finished through call and respond. Branching into molestation requires recontextualization which pulls us into reality. It’s no longer call and respond, and you’ve just asked someone if they’d molest a baby.
See for me I don't think killing babies is any more or less appropriate. They are both horrifying questions that I can't understand anyone not being able to say "no" to either question.
If youre back in time you could just work to not create a genocidal piece of shit. Also, this presumes that he was the only problem - there were many other horrible people involved, so there would likely just be another to take his place anyway.
Both questions are just off the charts level wrong to me and worth reporting. Though I bet there were plenty of other things said in the chat which would have also fit this ban message.
You’re not wrong to feel the way that you do. But I would recommend that you try to understand where others tend to draw the incredibly arbitrary violence line
Misplace him into an Orphanage, problem solved!
Big fucking oof. And I say that as someone who routinely ruins peoples’ days with my comments.
Frankly, I don't see how killing baby Hitler is not... extremely obviously morally superior to molesting baby Hitler.
You can kill anybody nearly instantly.
'Molestation' implies... over a signifcant amount of time.
It also implies that this is done in lieu of directly killing baby Hitler.
So you've now generated an even more fucked up Hitler.
Who will... regardless of how their time travel affrcted lifepath plays out... well they'll have been molested. As a core memory.
That... seems to me to be less moral, causes more Hitler-suffering, unnecessarily.
You've minimized total suffering, via killing baby Hitler.
... this is all assuming that just... doing either of these things somehow results in Hitler not coming to power, WW2 doesn't happen, holocaust doesn't happen.
Frankly I also do not see anything near a guaranteed causality to 'molesting baby Hitler' -> 'somehow WW2 does not happen'.
Whereas it is at least semi-plausible that killing baby Hitler at least could result in ww2/holocaust not happening... I guess the ... Strasserists just stay in control of the Nazis? And do not have a strangely charismatic firebrand to massively expand the movement?
So it also just seems very impractical, unlikely that molesting baby Hitler would achieve the presumably desired aim.
And it also assumes that these are your only two possible actions.
Of course the entire thing is ludicrous is the sense of hinging on perfect foreknowledge, and time travel, which is fundamentally paradoxical, and/or results quantum suicide/immortality type nonsense, and/or in the Red Alert timeline.
Oh god, and we essentially have to assume that this will be the only possible instance of time travel that ever happens, otherwise we potentially get into a kind of battling time travellers scenario ala whatever the fuck the Terminator series is doing now, and/or just a reality where many people can do time travel.
Why not just do... teleportation, and either kill or molest Trump or Netanyahu, right now?
I think I'd again conclude that telefragging them would be morally superior.
See this one 4chan creep there is why all those time travelers are shooting everyone who goes to see baby Hitler. We could have just killed baby Hitler in peace with Marx but someone had to and ruin things. Was this SCHOPENHAUER? IT WAS YOU WASN'T YOU SCHOPENHAUER ADMIT IT
I may not properly understand quantum immortality but I suppose it is technically 'possible' that I might be schopenhauer, in some sense, so... uh ... yes, maybe?
Godsdammit somebody lend us the time machine so we can go back in time and babymurderkill the craven, dastardly individual who dared commit the worst sin imaginable: being the original Schopenhauer.
Society disensitises us to the idea of killing bad people, all the movies and TV you watch and games you play will have you kill someone because they're an enemy or a bad person. No media justifies the idea of molesting someone because they're a bad guy.
I mean, not anymore. Prison rape jokes used to be all the rage
No media justifies the idea of molesting someone because they're a bad guy.
I think One Punch Man has done that as a joke with the character Puri Puri Prisoner being both a high ranking hero and going to prison for raping me .
That being said, one example doesn't mean it's common, just that you need to rephrase your last sentence to "almost no media"
I think a lot of people tend to externalize the consequences of murder as simply a matter of course. Like, a lot of people don't think of themselves as murderers, but do think that if push comes to shove, or if shit hits the fan, or if worse comes to worst, they'd be able to dig deep and find the strength within themselves to "do what needs to be done" and "protect their family" or whatever.
In this sense, murder is just "work." It's a means to an end, if an extreme one.
But, basically no one feels this way about molestation. I mean, how could you? There's no obvious connection between action and effect; the prompt says there is, but you just have to take that on faith. It's probably easier to just commit the murder, anyway, which means there's a degree of "indulgence" inherent to this that makes it feel much more gross. Plus, most people know this intuitively: we fix problems either by stopping them (murder, prison) or repairing them (therapy, support, love), and molestation is neither of those. Intuitively, it seems like the molestation would make things worse, actually.
So, in a rule-utilitarianism sense, I think people feel that murder is horrible, but permissible. Molestation is just horrible.
Also, regarding all of the above points, there's a virtue ethics angle to what each of those options might say about what kind of person you are, even if they both yielded the same outcome.
To be fair, he was innocent as a baby obviously.
But much easier to imagine woodchipping him than well, the fucked up shit anon spouted.
Maybe we are all different kinds of sick?
Just to go on a tangent (your comment just feels the closest to this particular topic), Hitler was actually a product of incest. His dad/uncle had a habit of raping "marrying" underage girls, including nieces.
Also, there's plenty of records of Hitler being fucked up as a kid, even before WW1. By that point he was particularly anti-semitic, even by the standard of early 1900's Germany. He was also effectively "that kid" that was in everyone's high school that wrote fanfic where they go on a rape/murder spree.
Tbh, Hitler had 0 chance of growing up as a normal, well-adjusted person.
time traveling assassins got the wrong guy, don't kill hitler...kill alexander the great
no Alexander and there's no roman empire, no roman empire mean catholicism dies a sweat short death, europe being spared all the inbred romaboos that followed the HRE's collapse
also, presumably we would all be speaking mongolian instead of english?
When anon says they're autistic, you better believe them
Is this supposed to be funny? you're just sharing horrible misogynist shit from a poorly socialised anti-social loser
Yeah, that's 4chan. Greentext comes from 4chan, what's the issue?
I think the issue is that this one just isn't funny. At least that's my issue.
I mean, it’s funny in the snarky cart narc sort of way, not in the “haha how clever” sort of way. You laugh at, not with.
Yes, laughing at bumbling chuds (oxymoron I know) is enjoyable for me. Pretty sure you have a few communities for that as well.
Would I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
I mean, probably not?
“…I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust”
~queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works
Thank you for your service
We need a quote maker bot for Lemmy.
“[…] I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust [...]”
~gullible@sh.itjust.works
Well, knowing who was really behind 4chan, this is not surprising.
It left a generation of...waste, for us to deal with.
Ootl, who was?
Epstein had ties to the founder of 4chan and was a big fan of the whole thing.
Rather out of topic, but these one-word-repky people just spite me. Like, come on, I'm trying to be your friend, don't come with "hm"!
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Hm?
Why must every time traveler kill baby hitler? Does no one realize if you raise Hitler right he might not have become a fascist instead?
With this reasoning wouldn't molesting baby Hitler made it worse?
the reasoning is they kill baby hitler, they prevent the most evil person from existing and making evil, therefore they are a great hero.
it's all about pretending they are the ultimate force for good... and the failure to realize this is also what motivated Hitler.
it's also why pedophilia/child abuse is used as the 'ultimate evil' because any evil perpetuated battling against it, is justified. people will applaud your violent fantasies towards child rapists, not so much if your violent fantasies are against kittens.
khhv?
foid?
never mind, found answers in thread.
not autistic, just asstastic.
Kissless, handholdless virgin
Feminoid, female humanoid
Kind of an easy one.
I would molest baby Hitler if I knew beforehand that it would stop the holocaust. Its disgusting but to save that many lives its above my personal comfort. its a duty to humanity at that point.
I would molest baby Hitler
~fizz@lemmy.nz
Now everyone will know, for better or worse
Not everyone is even capable of that.
How the fuck can you reduce everything to a binary operation?
I dont expect everyone to be capable of it. Im just saying put me in there coach and I can get it done. To save millions of people of course.
This comment section is precisely the goldmine that I hoped it would be
"if i knew beforehand it"
There is only two choices molest or dont. I'm not out here picking molest as my preferred method. I dont think baby Hitler deserves it but if I knew the outcome and could prevent it I would and I'd probably kill myself after.
absolutely deserved
Yea Anon, she totally hasn't had rando dudes ask her that question all the time as a history major!
at first I thought it said kill baby hitler, I think this might be worse-
Every time I think i suck at life, someone always comes by and proves I could be worse.