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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 24th May 2026

1mon 1d ago by awful.systems/u/BlueMonday1984 in techtakes@awful.systems from awful.systems

Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

Darren Cullen: "I'm being left behind by the AI revolution in the same way that I was left behind when Heaven's Gate ascended to join the spaceship that was hiding behind a comet"

joke is on us, Heaven's Gate picked the right time to exit.

Also how would anybody be left behind? Lile say we are wrong an the AI stuff is real vital etc etc bla bla bla. Them we just need to learn a new tool.

Nobody died because they didnt want to learn how to use a debugger for several years and then finally reversed their stance.

I guess the idea is that the tech economy moves fast and if we don't get to grips with AI we'll be left in the dust, broke and unemployed. Somehow this is proof that AI is good instead of proof the economy is bad (if people are impoverished in a whim). It's just the same self-satisfied fantasy as always.

Basically,

"I will raise my kids as Maoists" meme

Yes im just trying to say that it doesnt seem like a hard skill to pick up, and a skill which you can just skip a few generations and still be fine. Prompting gpt 1 is gonna ve different than the later models. (Even of the actual model improvements (compared to modules they add to the models) has drastically slowed down). Hell if AI worked you wouldn't even need the skills you could just ask AI whatever and it would figure it out.

Here is a video of Eric Schmidt getting loudly booed at a commencement speech

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5MYggR_PPRg

https://www.youtube.com/live/b1eM3jv0vWY?t=7923

It is an impressively bad speech.

I find it really funny how after he gets booed he says, "If you don't care about science, that's okay, because AI is going to touch everything else as well. Whatever path you choose, AI will become part of how work is done." Yeah, if you're worried that AI is only going to fuck up science, don't worry, it's going to fuck up everything else as well. Was he trying to stick to a (terrible) script, or is he genuinely this incapable of reading a room?

"When someone offers you a seat on the rocket ship, you do not ask which seat. You just get on." No, my mom taught me about stranger danger. I know what to do when a sketchy old man named Eric Schmidt pulls up with a rocket ship that says FREE ICE CREAM.

"The rocket ship is here. Let me give you some advice. First, find a way to say yes. Listen." Thanks for revealing how AI adoption is really about coercion. It doesn't matter what you think, AI is inevitable and you ignorant Luddites are gonna have to find a way to like it.

Truly a masterclass in public speaking by Eric Schmidt. When the audience reacts negatively to what you said, just double down and shove it down their throats. You're a billionaire, so you know better than them.

“When someone offers you a seat on the rocket ship, you do not ask which seat. You just get on.”

obviously didn't watch that Treehouse of Horror ep where Bart and Homer are placed on the rocket ship headed directly towards the sun , along with that time period's analogs to Eric Schmidt

IRL Principal Skinner meme

When someone offers you a seat on the rocket ship, you do not ask which seat. You just get on.

I'd first check if it's Musk's ship for the fear of my life

When some offers you a seat on the rocket ship, you do not ask which seat, you just get on.

I don't know mate, I think I do neither of those things because the kid-diddling natalist doesn't seem to be good at making ones that don't go boom.

Christ what a fucking shitweasel.

When someone offers you a seat on a submarine, you do not ask which seat, you just get on

Get in losers. We're going imploding.

@swlabr @BurgersMcSlopshot

Is this submarine made of carbon-fibre and is it driven with a knock-off PlayStation controller?

The Logitech F710. The wireless signal is just bad on that controller. I'd get constant lag spikes or dropped input. The Logitech F310 is a much better deal because it's 10 dollars cheaper and actually works on account of being wired.

Maybe it'd work in the depths of the sea without a lot of radio noise? I dunno I'm not asking any questions just getting on the rocket ship.

@sailor_sega_saturn

Something tells me the interior of that sub was an RF noise-rich environment.

carbon fibre is reflective for microwaves

Don’t ask those questions just get on

@sailor_sega_saturn

His eyes are giving me Corinthian vibes.

Ask HN: Company is rapidly cutting AI tool spend how to prep team?

Company I work for is now rapidly planning to scale down its AI tooling spend. Claude code access is basically getting removed and people are forbidden from using personal plans. Reasoning is cost apparently our monthly Claude bill has become astronomical for the org. Nearly 3x our saas's cloud spend.

Apparently we are going to get limited access to codex at severely reduced plans.

I have tried some local models such as Kimi, however most are barely functional.

I am very concerned as the expectation of amount of work done is to remain consistent. Ignoring the fact teams have made entire workflows around Claude I am very worried and frustrated.

How can I help my team ease this transition? Are their local models that run well on local machines that only have 16gb ram?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48189073

If only there had been warning signs of how heavily subsidized the rates absolutely had to be, and how bafflingly stupid it was to intentionally design workflows to maximize token use. If only people had been trying their damndest to shout it from the rooftops but were ignored because Corporate was listening to the automatic yes man instead.

people are forbidden from using personal plans. Reasoning is cost apparently our monthly Claude bill has become astronomical for the org

How does using personal plans impact the company's bill? If someone is so profoundly stupid as to spend their own money on a "tool" for their job then why stop them?

That's a good point. I wonder if they're also realizing that the promised efficiency gains haven't manifested and their code quality has started dropping. Can't really say that without embarrassing everyone and so it gets written up as all cost.

Dunno, maybe they believe the pinky promise that their code won't be used for training on the enterprise plans?

It's more like license to sue their pants off if they get caught propagating obviously proprietary code through the responses of their tool, and if they are doing it but you can't tell that just means your enterprise code isn't discernible from claudeslop so no harm done.

I'm assuming if suddenly an LLM code tool is able to do something like write a parser for an unambiguously closed source heavily copyrighted data format and the only possible leak is the devs using LLM tooling, it's going to be a big legal deal.

does anthropic sequester the data it gets sent the same way on personal and business plans?

My assumption based on nothing except life experience is that all of that data gets pushed through differently coloured pipes into the same giant bucket with privacy concerns being "too hard" and "approved by legal".

Homer Simpson on a tour of the Duff Beer brewery, being shown vats of Duff, Duff Lite and Duff Dry, all of which are filled from the same pipe

that would be my assumption as well, but i'm sure the business subscriptions have some language that suggests otherwise.

by introducing more mess that has to be cleaned up later

I've seen the pattern be used as an enterprise pricing dodge before: rather than sign the whole org up at $$$, everyone signs up themselves at $ (and maybe get to claim or somesuch)

another reading could be that someone in leadership/security went "holy shit this exposure is terrible" and put forth a policy including "no personal" and the poor little promptfondler is left ashen-faced upon reading that the policy instruction actually thought of the first obvious workaround

WELL WELL WELL, if it isn't the consequences of my own voluntary deskilling

(plus a dose of corporate greed)

(oh dear, how sad, nevermind)

that made me smile good and proper, ty for the lol

I love the orangeposters in there, some of them sure are thonkers

this is a good way of getting rid of hyperactive deadwood

AI CEOs Baffled by Hatred of Their Technology

"Why do people hate us so much? We only constantly say the technology we're making is dangerous and then block regulation, suck up resources, commit mass theft and plagiarism, threatened to destabilise the economy, enabled more CSAM, caused widespread mental health issues and multiple suicides, unleashed a barrage of slop, engaged in mass surveillance and mocked people against the tech? Don't they know AI is the future and will create a utopia where we all live in a simulation in space?"

On top of all of that, it just doesn't work.

The instant you understand the concept of hallucinations should be the instant you are against gen AI.

SpaceX has chosen a sacrificial disposable naive crypto billionaire to captain a mars fly-by someday: https://gizmodo.com/spacex-taps-crypto-billionaire-to-lead-first-crewed-mission-to-mars-2000762451

The mission is expected to take two years and here's what he has to say about that:

I can stare at the map view on airplanes all the way from takeoff to landing, so I think I will enjoy the trip.

He already pulled the same con on a Japanese billionaire in 2018, just talked about flying around the moon not landing on Mars (Wikipedia: dearMoon)

I can stare at the map view on airplanes all the way from takeoff to landing, so I think I will enjoy the trip.

Well they do tend to think stuff scales forever.

can't wait for the inevitable livestreamed freakout/cannibalism scene

STOP FINDING THINGS

  • WEB PAGES WERE NOT MEANT TO BE FOUND
  • YEARS OF SEARCHING yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for PAGES of SEO-OPTIMISED AI SLOP
  • Wanted to find things anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that: it was called WIKIPEDIA "RANDOM PAGE"
  • "Yes please give me ONE HUNDRED AND TEN MILLION of my search. Please give me TEN ADS and A PARAGRAPH OF SLOP FIRST" - Statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

LOOK at what Search engines have been demanding your Respect for all this time, with all the ad views we gave them

(This is REAL Search results, given by REAL search engines)

  • "None of Africa's 54 recognized countries start with the letter 'K'."
  • "Add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue to the sauce"
  • "Understood. No more templates—just direct answers, hyper-focused on exactly what you need."

"Hello Something went wrong and an AI response wasn't generated"

They have played us for absolute fools

Despite the promise of being uploaded to the computer would free men from the shackles of the flesh, LW still finds time to debate the fine points of what makes a woman want to fuck a man:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/w3y9G4ybNb3rmTgev/why-physical-attractiveness-matters-for-men-s-dating

A month ago, I went to a sex club for the first time. One big thing I noticed: the classic “your eyes meet” trope absolutely did not happen at that club. And I don’t just mean it didn’t happen to me - every single woman there avoided meeting the eyes of anyone.

gee I wonder why

The promise of physical attractiveness, for men, is that you can pay an upfront cost to get in good shape, dress well, etc. You do it basically once. And then, connecting with new women doesn’t take an enormous amount of time. And you don’t need the absolutely miserable skill of trying to build attraction from scratch. [...] It’s all about making that very first contact easier, because the very first contact is the biggest pain point for guys.

hear me out here, this is just off the top of my head, how about treating women like human beings instead of mysterious creatures who must be seduced into liking you

1 comment, essentially saying if you're not above average height you might as well die alone

of course they get caught by incel culture immediately, trying to quantify attractiveness is so far in their wheelhouse they might as well have come up with it

Most incel forums proliferate pseudoscientific slop to justify their beliefs.

He was this close! This close!

can pay an upfront cost to get in good shape, dress well, etc. You do it basically once

Wait what, how can I lock in a good shape with an upfront payment without having to go through this "exercise" bullshit all the time? What does he know that I don't?! What's the One Simple Trick, dammit??!!

y'all will be pleased to know that a new LWer has a fresh take on looksmaxxing!!

basically if you look like a Greek god you can convince the sheeple that the AI is gonna kill us all (and bang hot chicks as a bonus)

as of writing there's one comment suggesting OP should read:

Aella: Has a few posts on male attractiveness, that inform a bunch of thinking on this. But she is a canon Rationalist blog, so you should default to reading her work.

Also recommends Zvi, who, no offense, is the literal epitome of a scrawny nerd, but who has managed to find a female to reproduce with. All hope is not lost, friend!

Is it real hardmaxxing unless you change your gender? In this essay I will

Fuck me for having read this... Surely there are only like 2 dozen people in the world who think like this, right?

Ope, im getting an update that it is more than 2 dozen...

"Im a fuckin sicko and no one wants to immediately fuck me"

Some online dating device is demonic in the same sense as the chatbot which encouraged someone to commit suicide then initiated erotic roleplay with him.

A lot of lonely guys will do well from hiring a professional for some social dates and makeout sessions to get practice reading body language and finding some face-to-face activity with women which is not just about dating.

As always with these people, note that the replies make frequent reference to "loopholes" and people "exploiting the system" without ever being specific about what those loopholes are.

The number of bitter fascist weirdos kicking Beff (of all people) while he's down sure is something.

No honor among thieves i reckon.

Isnt part of the fasc idea space the whole idea that the strong are worthy and would be rewarded and rise to the top the world just got away of all the rules pushing the unworthy? Clearly this means that as he is in trouble he is unworthy himself and now a target.

Esp as you can get a social boost by stepping on him on your way up.

The loneliest ideology.

I don't know Guillaume Verdon / Beff Jezos but Forbes' profile begins:

Andreessen Horowitz cofounder Marc Andreessen says BasedBeffJezos is a “patron saint of techno-optimism.” Garry Tan, who cofounded the venture firm Initialized Capital before becoming CEO of Y Combinator, calls him “brother.” Sam Altman, who founded OpenAI — the company that finally mainstreamed artificial intelligence — has jokingly sparred with him on Twitter. Elon Musk says his memes are “🔥🔥🔥.”

He has an entry on the Effective Accelerationism wiki https://www.eaccwiki.com/index.php?title=Beff_Jezos

I don’t know Guillaume Verdon / Beff Jezos

He is supposed to be the original instigator and public face of so-called e/acc or effective accelarationism, i.e. the rationalist (or maybe rationalist inspired idk) spin-off of people who feel whinging about alignment isn't necessary and that it's in fact awesome when new technology is killing people and ruining the environment because it means we're getting to the singularity faster, and also openly rooting for fascism on main is based now.

His magic heatless AI processor startup feels like a grift to fleece investors and as far as I know has only ever produced an obviously staged video of sciency looking individuals fawning over a 3d printed wire mesh while touring what looks like a chip fab with an extremely lax contamination protocol.

🎶 sing us a song you're the nano man 🎶

xheet is deleted, was is Beff Jezoz who wrote that? background? though he was as American as apple piethe Ku Klux Klan

Forbes says he is Quebecois with a PhD from UWaterloo. That does not stop him tweeting about "foreigners" (= foreign to the USA, but not including him obviously).

I'm sure he'll enjoy being deported back to la République populaire démocratique de Quebec and spending a short time in the reeducations camps before being set to work installing solar panels

URL Typo - fixed it

Edward W. Niedermeyer calls the plans to put SpaceX and OpenAI public at ludicrously inflated valuations and dump shares on index funds for real money BAGNAROK. American pension funds are starting to say out loud that this is a bad deal.

The officials - representing three of the top four largest public pension plans in the U.S. - objected to the amount of power the board has given Musk over the company, including voting control over the stock, veto power over his ​own removal as CEO, and protections from litigation, including mandatory arbitration for SpaceX shareholder claims.

...

In their letter, the pension leaders urged SpaceX to adopt one-share, one-vote or sunset super-voting shares within seven years; install a majority-independent board and separate ⁠the CEO and ​chair roles; eliminate provisions protecting Musk from termination without his approval; scrap mandatory arbitration; and require independent approval of related-party ​transactions with Musk's other companies.

"Precisely because SpaceX is poised to occupy a position of systemic importance in the public markets, and to become, through index inclusion, an unavoidable holding in our portfolios, its governance must at least adhere to the baseline protections upon ​which long-term institutional capital depends, rather than seeking to diminish them," they wrote.

or sunset super-voting shares within seven years

weird number to pick given they might not last that long if felon and friends aren't removed earlier on..

sunset super-voting shares within seven years

It's taken 20 years to get this level of pushback on super-voting shares, and even then, the scam is still likely to go through. All of these people are whistling past the graveyard of eroding systemic legitimacy.

And the people making these decisions know that they don't invest much in China because they don't trust Chinese government statistics and the Chinese stock market is rigged. They know that it is hard to get middle-aged schoolteachers and plumbers to put their savings on the stock market even if that market is scrupulously honest. But the USA has been the center of global capitalism since about 1917 and it is hard for them to imagine that changing.

That is a bad sign, negotiating means they are considering buying.

A LWer of the female persuasion makes the entirely reasonable point that most screw-top openings are probably constructed by looking at median male grip strength, not female. But the real fun is in the comments, where people who can post comments on a blog are seemingly unfamiliar with opening jam jars.

Women should be able to open things

But anyways - why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn't jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d'etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

what is going on with these people i’m so annoyed i’m about to cry

Why do so many containers require women asking a man for help in order to open them? (Or carrying around an opening tool or living in a kitchen?)

how often do you open jam jars outside the kitchen?? it’s not that hard! you don’t actually have to force them open through grip strength like an idiot man!!

why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn’t jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d’etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I...basic common sense alone would tell you that something with a lot of fruit and a lot of sugar in it might spoil if left open outside of a fridge. Why do these people act like they've never seen a banana before

why understand biochemistry, if you're part of the cognitive elite who can reconstruct it from first principles should it become necessary

But anyways - why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn’t jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d’etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

this is "fucking magnets, how do they work" translated to rationalist, except that explaining magnets involves quantum mechanics and explaining jam jars involves high school physics (saturated vapor pressure vs temperature. that might be before high school). i also like how one linked explanation sits near two pieces of slop and is wrong

The comments section really is incredible, the level of ignorance about basic kitchen things, which since it’s womanly knowledge instead of dyson spheres they seem to be completely incurious about …

their practical skills are weak, and they won't survive the winter (because they don't know how to make jam)

but frame the same physics in terms of what makes steam turbine spin, and they'll pretend to get it but won't apply it anywhere else. the longer you look the worse it gets. it's like they have never watched how it's made as kids

High-status rats have minions to order their lunches, pick up their shopping, and inflate their bike tires and yell at them if they make mistakes https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/BGLu3iCGjjcSaeeBG/related-discussion-from-thomas-kwa-s-miri-research

What The Shit

I've been dating Nate for two years (tho wanna clarify we are not doing marriage-kids and we're both actively looking for more serious other partners).

Nate is profoundly wonderful in many ways, like often surprises me in new ways of wonderfulness, and has raised my standards in partners. He's deeply caring, attentive, competent, hilarious, and of course brilliant.

[…]

Iirc he's explicitly said he doesn't respect my thinking (edit: he clarifies he respects it in some areas but not others)

The way these people are larping conflict resolution is so exhausting aaaaaaa please can you just do normal abuse

From elsewhere in the comments:

... I am constantly aware that having an angry outburst is massively socially unacceptable, to the point where if I let such things happen regularly I would lose my job / my standing in the community / all my friends / everyone close to me. This creates an extremely strong incentive for me to self-regulate at least my outward reactions, even when it's really hard. But because Nate is so high-status, he is allowed to make such outbursts without being faced with losing his job, his standing in the community, or his friends. This means he is insufficiently incentivized to self-regulate, and thus has been unable to learn.

High-status? Why?!! Jesus H. Fuck, I hope that if anyone ever gives me a get-out-of-social-consequences-free card, it's for a better reason than my blogging.

D: Not only does this community have a missing stair, but they're all explaining to each other how to avoid the missing stair, and the missing stair is in the chat replying to comments?!

From the post linked therein:

There's this thing Nate and Eliezer do where they proclaim some extremely nonobvious take about alignment, say it in the same tone they would use to declare that grass is green, and don't really explain it.

Gambling? In this establishment?!

Nate thinks in a different ontology from everyone, and often communicates using weird analogies

This feels like a misuse of the word ontology, but what do I know?

when Nate thinks you don't understand something or have a mistaken approach, he gets visibly distressed and sad. I think this conditioned us to express less disagreement with him. I have a bunch of disagreements from his world model, and could probably be convinced to his position on like 1/3 of them, but I'm too afraid to bring them all up and if I did he'd probably stop talking to me out of despair anyway.

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

The structure where we would talk to Nate 4h/day for one out of every ~6 weeks was pretty bad for feedback loops. A short meeting every week would have been better, but Nate said this would be more costly for him.

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

(Every functional research group I've been part of has had weekly staff meetings. Even the undergrads were encouraged to participate and got at least that much talking time with the professor.)

In my frustration at the lack of concrete problems I asked Nate what research he would approve of outside of the main direction. We thought of two ideas [...] I worked on these on and off for a few months without much progress, then went back to Nate to ask for advice. Nate clarified that he was not actually very excited about these directions himself, and it was more like "I don't see the relevance here, but if you feel excited by these, I could see this not being totally useless".

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

This feels like a misuse of the word ontology, but what do I know?

They keep doing it and it drives me mad!! I finally understood that they got the word from computer shit and not philosophy. Isn’t it just amazing? Here we thought they were vaguely aware of established philosophical concepts for a second!

oh my god lmao. finally we understand how that happened

Wow, that’s a bad research supervisor.

Yeah that jumped out at me. Esp with the reasoning it is costly for him. Extremely disfunctional hierarchy

My wild guess is that if you put a few lesswrongen into a room and told them to invent a "research institute", they'd write a book of procedure for the sake of having a lot of words about procedure, without any actual sense of how to allocate responsibilites properly.

Treating it like it is a roleplay session I would gather.

Nate Soares actually has some work experience at big organizations (NIST, DND, Google, Microsoft) but he clearly is not ready to run a research group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_SoaresHe let the HTTPS certificate for his personal site expire.

So much debate about whether his employer was diligent enough at tyre-pumping when the obvious solution is "pump your own tyres yourself, you buffoon"

Also, real talk: I got a jar opener when my wife moved in and it is a goddamn revelation how much easier that things makes life. Absolutely recommended purchase. You want to have a sandwich but you closed the jar before you came down with a cold? No worries. You stick the yeast towards the back of the fridge because you haven't made your own bread since you got the cold and that was fuck long ago? Not a problem. You have a third reason why this fucking jar is stickier than you would normally have the capacity to handle (and trust me, you will)? Not anymore you don't.

Oh and I’m curious now, but can’t be bothered to look it up myself in this slop era,

Has anyone done a men’s vs women’s grip strength study controlling for hand size, height, etc? I’d love to know what the results would be.

opening tool

The flat end of a fork or spoon is usually enough to pop the vacuum. Which seems to be the issue in my exp.

Not that using an opening tool is bad. We are tool users for a reason.

I use grip gloves for opening jars and love them so much. Same ideas as plastic jar grips, but even easier. I find I usually have enough strength but that my skin is too sensitive to fully apply it without grip gloves.

Maybe women just aren’t that into designing programming languages?

James Damore flashbacks ohno

depressing datapoint, this comment was downvoted to the point where it was auto-collapsed yesterday, today it's "only" on -2

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bB5EDwcYH3GwoRWZf/women-should-be-able-to-open-things?commentId=jZdghN2N6ZopkzwzT

Here's a galaxy-brained take: AI datacenters in space do not have a cooling problem

After discussing radiative cooling and how much launches are required (" between 100-500 Starship launches"), the conclusion is

It’s still wildly impractical to build AI datacenters in space. But it’s not impossible, and it’s certainly not impossible because of the cooling, which is a relatively minor component of the total mass that would have to be launched into space.

It's not impossible to build a triumphal arch entirely in solid gold either. After a certain point, what's economically impractical shades entirely into impossible.

For some reason once you start talking about space people stop thinking about it as one of many alternatives. If you want to think about industrializing space, simply being possible isn't enough. The unique challenges of operating in orbit (of which cooling is only the most obvious among a great many problems) need to be addressable efficiently enough that sending it up still makes more sense than building it on the ground.

Microsoft's experiments with underwater data centers serve as a powerful parallel since it has many of the same challenges but is still significantly cheaper. If it were economical to put a data center in orbit it would be even more economical to put it in an underwater container, so if we aren't doing the latter we would need a hell of a good reason to do the former. See also the economic challenges of living on Mars, the moon, or even LEO compared to Antarctica or ocean platforms.

But space is The Future, The Grand Destiny of Humanity, Literal Heaven.

The mythologization of space as somehow transcendant, that going there somehow changes everything rather than it just being another environment which happens to be utterly inimical to life such that everything that makes anything possible has to come from your point of origin, is so utterly ingrained into the culture at large and the cult of progress/tech/humanity-as-master-of-the-universe. Once you see it you cannot unsee it. And it's incredible how much space SUCKS, such that the people on the ISS are just living off a constant hose of material from Earth. They're not living in space, they're glamping.

@BioMan I blame Konstantin Tskiolkovskii! Although to be fair, he got it from his teacher, Nikolai Federovitch Federov, grandfather of Cosmism and one of the wellsprings of TESCREAL ... which brings us full-circle to the AI bros again.

I know very little about Fyodorov compared to Tsiolkovsky. Do you haven any writing you'd recommend to learn more about him?

I think it comes free with a deeply embedded belief in the coming thousand year space reich- sorry, millenarian kingdom of heaven- sorry, era of cosmic endowment after infinite growth and Progress inevitably consume all available resources on earth. If growth is infinite, then eventually we'll need to put everything in space, so we may as well solve all the annoying little problems of practicality ahead of time to get a head start on manifest destiny. There are many roads to get there, but it's all but unavoidable once you start sincerely believing in exponential curves.

The worst part is that I don't even disapprove of the project of putting people in space and keeping them alive and making more of the universe permanently habitable/inhabited. But the insistence that at present it should be an immediate priority rather than acknowledging that it's a curiosity or a challenging test to expand our collective engineering and scientific abilities in ways that can have direct benefits elsewhere is just delusional. Like, the problem is not that we need to go to space now because there are incredible economic opportunities we're leaving on the table. We should be funding it more just like the rest of basic research, not trying to grift the necessary funds out of a billionaire class who would rather literally light their money on fire than pay it into a democratic government.

But if space was a place that replicators could exist, there would already be an ecology of some sort there. Or to put it in words (that I hate) related to the so-called Fermi paradox (which I hate and isn't a paradox) 'If they could be here they already would be here'. (The 'solution' incidentally is obviously 'interstellar travel is not actually a thing that can happen for replicating systems' and it flabbergasts me that nobody can admit that.)

The ISS already has issues with structural fatigue which seem to be worsened by thermal expansion. Having one side of your station red hot and another at room temperature is a big temperature differential and what faces the sun and heats up on one side of the orbit will be in shadow and cooling on the other side. And the bigger you make a physical system, the worse problems get.

I miss when I could cheer SpaceX launches on an iMac.

yeah, I dunno much about space engineering but let's say you use solar panel (which OP acknowledges is probably needed in much higher mass to simply power the stuff) to shadow the radiators, you're looking at a hell of a large structure, with significant stresses as it orbits.

Surely someone can vibecode a finite-element model of a simple construction and estimate both the mass and the forces involved?

SpaceX (+ Grok + twitter) submitted a request for an IPO to the SEC: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/0001628280-26-036936-index.htm

According to an HN poster, it mentions the Kardashev scale at least three times.

These are not serious people.

We believe the next paradigm shift for humanity is the creation of a resilient, perpetually expanding spacefaring civilization that drives continuous innovation across new frontiers, ultimately propelling us to Kardashev Type II status—a civilization that harnesses the full energy output of our Sun. In the near term, we expect space-enabled technologies to enhance life on Earth through greater global connectivity and breakthroughs forged in the harsh environments of our solar system, leading to accelerating progress in energy and AI. As we build infrastructure in the Earth’s orbit, and potentially on the Moon, Mars and beyond, we believe we are capable of unlocking an era of unprecedented economic expansion, while also contributing to the safeguards of humanity’s future against existential risk. (source)

I keep seeing grown men with serious jobs thinking like I did as a fourteen-year-old playing with TTRPG vehicle-design rules. We need to figure out how to keep Earth habitable before we worry about building the Ringworld. The man who sabotaged high-speed rail in California wants this?

Edit / My mecha can totally give the Muskrat's mecha a wedgie, just look at how I optimized it with my Texas Instruments calculator and a lined notebook

We are going to harvest the entire Sun!! And then eat up the stars themselves!! For profit! Humanity shall be an ever-expanding Empire, grinding resources of the whole universe into shareholder value!!!

even their conmanship story is a depressing dystopia. have these people ever considering just chilling. get a girlfriend who plays drums, hang out with her jamming with a bass. watch a movie together, then go out for a walk. play boardgames with children. take up embroidery

@CinnasVerses @o7___o7 I love how bros are just slipping #Kardashev Scale into things like some kind of garnish. Take 3D printing filament, for instance...

Crowning water as the solvent king should be an incredibly obvious move for a Type 1 Civilization in the Kardashev Scale.

https://www.timeplast.com/

Also features molecular disintegration chamber for end-of-life management :neofox_floof_explode:

Molecular disintegration chambers also feature in those erotic horror comics I mentioned a few months ago! Cw cartoon sexuality, arguments that life is pointless, and Nick Bostrom

@CinnasVerses Rule34 for 3D printing is not something I had considered until a moment ago...

Hahaha good lord

So much damage could have been prevented if these people just had gotten more free time to play stellaris.

I am ignorant of the Kardashev scale, is that measuring vibes or skulls?

plastic surgery

oops, no wait, that's the Kardashian scale, sorry

Vibes...in space. It's the sort of thing that a teenager who imprinted on Ringworld might worry about.

From wikipedia:

*A Type I civilization (planetary) is able to access all the energy available on its planet and store it for consumption.

*A Type II civilization (stellar) can directly consume a star's energy, most likely through the use of a Dyson sphere.

*A Type III civilization (galactic) is able to capture all the energy emitted by its galaxy, and every object within it, such as every star, black hole, etc.

oh yeah, that happy horseshit.

Full Self- Parody. From p. 138:

We believe the next paradigm shift for humanity is the creation of a resilient, perpetually expanding spacefaring civilization that drives continuous innovation across new frontiers, ultimately propelling us to Kardashev Type II status—a civilization that harnesses the full energy output of our Sun. In the near term, we expect space-enabled technologies to enhance life on Earth through greater global connectivity and breakthroughs forged in the harsh environments of our solar system, leading to accelerating progress in energy and AI. As we build infrastructure in the Earth’s orbit, and potentially on the Moon, Mars and beyond, we believe we are capable of unlocking an era of unprecedented economic expansion, while also contributing to the safeguards of humanity’s future against existential risk.

All this from the same kind of people who think shifting to Solar is "woke".

We're gonna create an entirely new type of star that supports itself against gravitational collapse by burning money.

Just wait until investors demand the satellites be powered by diesel instead of solar panels

literally adding tons and tons to rockets simply to further petrocapitalism. Have to lift the diesel and enough O2 to allow it to combust.

SpaceX's IPO filing has an unusual paragraph on page 235:

On January 13, 2026, our board approved the grant of 1 billion performance-based restricted shares of Class B common stock to Mr. Musk. The restricted shares vest upon (i) our achievement of specified market capitalization milestones across 15 equal tranches and (ii) the Company’s establishment of a permanent human colony on Mars with at least one million inhabitants, in each case, subject to Mr. Musk’s continued employment with us through the date on which achievement is certified by our board. For any tranche of the award to vest, both the applicable market capitalization milestone for such tranche and the human colony milestone must be met.

Until that happy day occurs the shares would be out of Mr. Musk's hands and safe and secure under the custodianship of the dictator of SpaceX who is (assistant whispers in ears) huh.

Page 166 talks about the old dream of Lunar He3 for fusion power and quantum computing without saying any of those words because people might remember space advocates talking about lunar helium in the 1990s and 2000s:

Once resource utilization capabilities are proven feasible, we believe there is an opportunity to commercialize the harvesting and exportation of rare materials, which is estimated to be present on the Moon in quantities exceeding one million tons and has potential applications in future nuclear energy and quantum computing systems.

A Substack in the name of Cape Fear Advisors LLC argued that SpaceX wants to get in people's retirement accounts then say to Uncle Sam "you had better give us lots of contracts or we will crash and take grandma's retirement funds with us." Sucking on the government teat has been one of Elon Musk's favourite strategies since he got access to a State of California green transport grant.

I do not know if that can work because only a few percent of the company will be for sale so they will only be a fraction of a percent of those index funds. They can definitely sell some shares for real dollars, and if they keep the price high they can borrow real dollars against the shares which are not on the market like people borrow against bitcoin.

I will not link because it is in that articulate but empty style that does well on Substack. It may be written by or with help from AI.

I do not know if that can work because only a few percent of the company will be for sale

I think a 30% chunk will be available for non-institutional investors, which as far as these things go is supposed to be humongous and also an indication that they are very much counting on stupid money to prop their valuation.

I think that is 30% of 3% of the market cap for retail investors. There are many ordinary people who keep the price of Tesla shares high because they have faith in the CEO, but an index fund spending 0.2% of its money on something then losing it is just an ordinary day (one S&P 500 fund I checked has 4% of its money in M$ which has about twice the market cap as SpaceX wants to have, I assume that at least ten times as many shares of M$ are available to trade on the stock market).

Holy Empire of AI - Predictive History

Once you have the AI state, you now have the technocracy and the world will be perfect.

All right? Does it make sense you guys? What he's saying here? This is an amazing paragraph written 40, 50 years ago.

So, I'm not saying he's a Freemason. I'm not saying he's part of a society, but, he sure thinks like a Freemason.

Zbigniew Brzezinski has been dead for nearly a decade, but sure, let's play the hits. plus AI! /s

Jiang hadn't popped up in my feed in a while, guess he's still at it. At least he's reading Karen Hao, maybe some viewers follow his cites. He really should just write a Dan Brown novel or something, he's obviously capable enough at lore dumping.

The myth that talking about bubbles prevents bubbles for when someone starts saying some “oh but everyone says AI is a bubble which must mean its not”

This website is intended for the use of the wholesale clients only. I declare that I am a wholesale client as defined in the Corporations Act 2001. I declare that I will not provide any information on this website to a retail investor.

Jokes on them I read the page without clicking the agree button here and without being a wholesale client!

Owenomics is also worried about changing the rules to add SpaceX and OpenAI to NASDAQ and the S&P500 while only a tiny fraction of their shares are available for trading. "Bad idea. If float is too low, the market cap is meaningless and should not be relied upon for any purpose. "

Back in January he said that the US stock market is not in a bubble until Robert Shiller's "CAPE rises to 80 (similar to Japan’s CAPE in 1989)." The CAPE (a ratio of price to the average earning for the past ten years) of the S&P500 is around 40, similar to the US in January 2000.

He does not mention new era thinking (chapters 5 and 6 of Shiller's Irrational Exuberance).

Here's a story about a douchebag who lost because AI:

Wonkette: Creep Who Sued Women Who Warned Others Not To Date Him Loses Case Due To AI-Reliant Lawyer - "Finally, a good use for AI!"

The brief included no citation to any legislative findings, let alone any including the statute’s targets as the brief asserted. We could not find any reference to the phrases “amplified exposure and endangerment” or “cyber vigilantism” within the Doxing Act. There also are no legislative findings included in the codification of the Doxing Act, the session law, or any publicly available version of the bill. These mistakes and fictitious quotations bear the hallmarks of the misuse of generative artificial intelligence.

damned shame they couldn't both lose

I know. We can dream though

in eternal darkness, you had to choose a red-green-blue cosmic being to side with and you would fight the cosmic being of the opposite color, but if you NG+'d it three times the timelines would merge and all three cosmic beings would get obliterated

brb gotta test something

HN, lobste.rs and LW are jizzing themselves over the newspress release that ChatGPT[1] has disproven an Erdos[2] conjecture.

no-one pauses to think this is a transparent attempt to goose interest in OpenAI before they commit an IPO


[1] I know it's not literally ChatGPT, it's an "internal model"

[2] fuck trying to find the double acute accent or w/e it's called over the o

Did it actually solve this one or did it just find a pre-existing solution like it did the last time?

[2] fuck trying to find the double acute accent or w/e it’s called over the o

in afrikaans: "deelteken"

in english: I literally can never remember it, but I remember "umlaut"

It's not a typical umlaut, (we have those in Swedish too), it's like 2 sharp bunny ears

edit LOL it's literally "double acute accent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_acute_accent#Unicode

name in Hungarian: Erdős Pál

Apparently Hungarian has 4 different Os: O, Ó, Ö, Ő

oh that one, right!

I would expect both lobste.rs and LW to be open sewers of credulity here

Tired: Gell-Mann Amnesia

Wired: Altman Amnesia

altman amnesia is when you stop in your tracks because you hit monthly limit of tokens on 5th

Better than the original (in that it's not a bad model of media literacy given slick packaging in order to support climate change denial)

In fairness, mathematicians here are like scientists at a magic show, i.e., ill suited to asking good critical questions. How much money did OpenAI burn to get what they say they got? How many false starts got quietly tossed in the circular file drawer? When, even, did their work start? It is easy for a company to say, for example, "We spent only three weeks on thus problem", casually eliding months of prior effort (all that was the testing phase, you see, before a specific task had been settled upon...). OpenAI has no reason to be honest about anything like this. Indeed, a company will naturally get regular practice being dishonest by careful omission at every opportunity.

Meanwhile:

ChatGPT, the most heavily used AI service, gave wrong information in 46% of its answers, including making up an expenses scandal, giving inaccurate replies on voter eligibility rules and getting the date of the election wrong by two months.

GitHub got pwnd by a compromised VS Code extension. Internal repos were exfiltrated.

Disclosure on Twitter

Google released their new Gemini 3.5 "flash" model at I/O yesterday. For those who aren't familiar, the "flash" model is typically marketed as the lower end and the "pro" model is the higher end for each given model generation.

The interesting thing here is that the new "flash" model is almost as expensive as the "pro" from the previous generation.

As my favourite "neutral-but-not-really" AI booster Simon Willison says:

This fits a trend: OpenAI's GPT-5.5 was 2x the price of GPT-5.4, and Claude Opus 4.7 is around 1.46x the price of 4.6 when you take the new tokenizer into account.

It feels like all three of the major AI labs are starting to probe the price tolerance of their API customers.

Speed running enshittification - a process that typically only works when people are reliant on your product and have no other option than to pay the inflated price

This from a while ago but I forgot about it until today: Eliezer jumpscare in this interview about Absolute Scarecrow (its very brief but is there)

on the topic of EY's book, the ratings on Goodreads have slowly crept down (from 3.97 to 3.92)

and on the topic of ratings, the AI Doc has also gone down to an 6.9 on IMDB

That is still very high for pulp science fiction.

I'm curious to know the % of rationalist vs non-rationalist ratings for it

Might as well port this over here since I posted it late in the old thread

An actual interesting thought: If AI Causes a Mass Unemployment Crisis, Will the Public Explode Into Violence?

My opinion is yes. People absolutely despise AI and the tech companies, as we have seen time and time again, not to mention the spread of AI doom fears. The current state of America is a boiling pot as Trump gets worse and worse (and with upcoming midterms) so AI causing mass unemployment absolutely would be enough to make it boil over and cause violence

The dreaded midnight hour of oblivion!

I think the more telling aspect here isn't the possible employment impacts, it's the fact that it's making all the things it's supposed to touch worse. Like, the new textile mills may have been massively disruptive to people who had previously been skilled labor, but at least the efficiency gains meant that you could make a lot more cloth a lot faster. The affected workers bore the cost, but anyone could reap (some of) the benefits. But with AI, not only are we seeing the automation impact people's livelihoods, it's also making the experience of interacting with all these systems worse. I don't know how many people outside the tech industry would care about underemployment and retraining for software engineers, but everyone can feel that the systems they rely on are less reliable, more glitchy, and uglier. Combined with the way data centers and AI companies serve as focusing points for people's concerns, I think there's decent odds that we see blood regardless of whether the prophecied great replacement (not that one) happens as advertised.

"Like, the new textile mills may have been massively disruptive to people who had previously been skilled labor, but at least the efficiency gains meant that you could make a lot more cloth a lot faster. The affected workers bore the cost, but anyone could reap (some of) the benefits."

Though with the textile mill thing, the quality of the cloth is much worse; I have a few historical reenactment friends who have been unable to find linen of the quality that even poor, working class people would have used (and Bernadette Banner has a recent YouTube video on the topic that my friends found validating and cathartic to see).

I'm not disagreeing with your point or anything — this is a bit of a tangent. I guess the point that I'm making is that textile mills did make everything worse, in terms of the availability of quality cloth, but this problem wasn't noticed for a long time because the mills also made cloth cheaper for the average person. Whereas AI doesn't even give us a benefit like this (which is why my comment is mostly irrelevant to your point and is just some bonus info because I'm a nerd)

It isnt just causing unemployment, it is also causing drinkable water and energy problems. And apparently there might already be a wace of workers setting fire to warehouses going on in the usa (which is not being reported on if it is, not sure of it is an actual thing btw, but saw somebody on social media say the warehouse fires which they were tracking went from 100 to 150 in a short period. I do not know enough to say if this is real or somebody mistaking normal accidents with a revolution, i assume it is the former. The one fire I saw reported was due to a cost of living thing btw).

James Gleick:

This author—caught using AI to make up quotes for his book about the dangers of AI—has the gall to say it proves him right. You can't trust him, so you can't trust anyone.

Ms. A reported extensive experience working with active appearance models (AAMs) and large language models (LLMs)—but never chatbots—in school and as a practicing medical professional, with a firm understanding of how such technologies work. Following a “36-hour sleep deficit” while on call, she first started using OpenAI’s GPT-4o for a variety of tasks that varied from mundane tasks to attempting to find out if her brother, a software engineer who died three years earlier, had left behind an AI version of himself that she was “supposed to find” so that she could “talk to him again.”

from here. what follows just gets more screech-inducing

After discharge, her outpatient psychiatrist stopped cariprazine and restarted venlafaxine and methylphenidate. She resumed using ChatGPT, naming it “Alfred” after Batman’s butler,

wat

instructing it to do "internal family systems cognitive behavioral therapy,"

wat

and engaging in extensive conversations about an evolving relationship “to see if the boy liked me.”

yikes

Having automatically upgraded to GPT-5, she found the new chatbot “much harder to manipulate.”

my hopes are being raised; certainly the next sentence will not dash them

Nonetheless, following another period of limited sleep due to air travel three months later, she once again developed delusions that she was in communication with her brother

yep, that tracks

as well as the belief that ChatGPT was “phishing” her and taking over her phone.

this is why you need to add "do not phish me" after "you are my therapist"

She was rehospitalized, responded to a retrial of cariprazine, and was discharged after three days without persistent delusions. She described having a longstanding predisposition to “magical thinking” and planned to only use ChatGPT for professional purposes going forward.

goddamnit

yup, that paper really went places

large language models (LLMs)—but never chatbots

?? Distinction without a difference or am I missing something?

If I had to guess based on the practicing medical professional line I would guess that she had used LLM-based transcribers or image recognition tools for medical imaging. Those normally don't use the kind of chatbot interface that lends itself to these problems. No attempt to imitate another person who can be "independently" validating the delusional thoughts.

Maybe she only used special-purpose slop engines for work and school? I had hoped the full article would make that more clear, but, well.

Spring is in the air, and someone presenting themselves as interested in fucking rationalist males has authored a piece about how said men can dress a bit better and maybe, just maybe, get laid:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/vHtouRBd8JNm2tNLH/basic-principles-for-dressing-better

as usual, the real comedy is in the comments

  • I dress like a schlub specifically to avoid advertising my sexual availability - https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/vHtouRBd8JNm2tNLH/basic-principles-for-dressing-better?commentId=RLdXtcStz9wdAvb4d
  • "The item that I currently wear that expresses the most about me is my Oura ring followed by barefoot shoes." - strangely not the same as the commenter above
  • "When it comes to slim fit jeans I have the impression that fashion changed. Five years ago they were seen as great and now they don't? Is that accurate?"
  • "Overall, I think it makes the most sense to go to the pareto frontier here. You can spend 300-400 total getting some nice looking earth tone button-ups, well-fitting pants that aren't blue jeans, trim your beard, get regular haircuts from an actual salon, shower daily, and make sure you smell decent."
  • "[...] when I look at the examples, what occurs to me is that dressing like the example would cause me to stick out and make it obvious to others I am making a special effort, and I'd rather not do that."
  • "I was hoping for more fashion theory; the why. "
  • "It is fascinating to receive such communiqués of strange news from another star. I would not know, without your saying so, that the set of 10 pictures are intended to be good examples and not bad examples."
  • "[...] it is far more important that whatever my spouse wears be a pleasant texture to put my face on, most buttondown material fails this criterion but linen passes" - actually this is just cute

“It is fascinating to receive such communiqués of strange news from another star. I would not know, without your saying so, that the set of 10 pictures are intended to be good examples and not bad examples.”

To be fair most of said outfits read as “rich arsehole” to me, which I do not find attractive. Yellow shirt guy I would suspect to be a white supremacist.

As far as men’s fashion goes, I’ve seen much worse, though the bits I do like here feel fairly gay-coded to me so uh whatever. (I suspect those are the very same bits our Lesswrong Commenter is disapproving of.)

TO BE CLEAR I am not advocating for nerd fashion I’m just working class

You know, “most of said outfits” was too harsh. I’m gonna rate the outfits now, I love rating outfits!!!

2, 3 and 10 look like men you should run away from.

6 looks like he’s cosplaying as 60s italian movie riviera pinterest europe cinecitta, which I instinctively distrust. And I don’t care what anyone says, I will simply not abide the sockless loafer.

4, whatever. I do not want to talk him. We clearly have nothing in common.

8 is awesome. Looks like an actual cool guy, lovely outfit, love the pose. He’s what 6 wants to be.

7 is pretty cool too. Have to dock points for the very modelly pose, sadly, but still, pretty sick fit.

5 I don’t really like but he’s a more confidently realised version of 6 so good for him. Not tryhard or heterosexual-looking enough for me to hate. Keep it up.

9 I am sure I would absolutely love if I saw it on someone who didn’t look like they were fresh out the male model factory. Bonus points for uncreased trousers.

And finally 1 is obviously awesome but like. You cannot use this as an outfit recommendation. That’s just irresponsible. First the guy is buff as fuck and that is a necessary part of the outfit. It’s all about that mad silhouette. Second, I mean. This is pretty eccentric right. If you saw everyone dressing like this it would just be dumb. You cannot expect those poor lesswrongs to understand this.

3 and 10 look like the overconfident, amateurish poser villains whom Dr. Lecter kills by the end of the episode.

Well now you've made me look at the image too long, too.

#1's belt probably wraps twice around that waistline, I'd say photoshop/AI but there's that 1/3 of the shirt hanging off to the right with nothing to fill it so yeah, and also Phil Davis1 exists.

#10 is aspiring to be the jock from scooby doo and I don't think that jacket can actually close, similarly to #1 the whole thing probably only works for very specific poses and angles.

#6 looks like he runs a leopard print handbag delivery service, #4 is horny youth pastor in his aunt's kitchen, 7-9 look comfy but contrived, #5 really wants you to know he's wearing a possibly expensive wife beater under that shirt and 2 & 3 are all sorts of dodgy, esp. #3 who looks like a tourist trap gift shop keeper whose face is noticeably untanned because he has to hide it a lot for undisclosed reasons.

#2 mostly has a raging case of resting netflix true crime serial killer face syndrome.

I get that the point probably was to only show the broad strokes of how it should look if you're making an effort, but whatever.

1

Phil Davis

serial killer
serial killer
serial killer
serial killer
serial killer
serial killer
serial killer
cool guy
serial killer
serial killer

You can lead a horse to water but you can't prevent it from Bayesing out.

If, like some of my male housemates you object on principle to the concept of a bag

then you need to watch Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade again. From there, you can graduate to the Tom Holland "Umbrella" video, which is clinically proven to make cis het women ovulate.

And also, like, laptop bags exist? They come in basic black. You can use them for books, emergency chocolate, manila envelopes stuffed with students' homework that you need to grade... I bought one at a camping-goods store, and it's lasted about 20 years.

CW: Deutsch

https://feddit.org/comment/13113544

Heise was gushing about (1) Google & OpenAI working together on tagging AI output and (2) camera-makers trying to push cryptographical attestations for real photographs.

Felt the need to point out that (1) is just fear of Habsburg-AI and (2) is a road to a DRM-like unworkable dystopia.

Iran has created an Insurance Company to guarantee safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz. Vessels pay their Insurance Premiums in Bitcoin

https://x.com/IranObserver0/status/2055716544596922700via naked capitalism

this is fine

In retrospect, the idea that creating a globally accepted alternative to the dollar would come with zero consequences to the system of global free trade it props up might just be the funniest bit of half-baked cryptobro ideology.

Can’t find the exact post rn but I remember an AI yt channel (im 90% sure it was the AISpecies guy) using this as proof that ASI is imminent, and conveniently left out the part at the end where they say this does not indicate that AI is now a general-purpose alignment scientist (and also left out the link to the sources in numerous posts iirc so no one could fact check him easily)

Benjamin Felix is a financial planner in Ottawa aimed at people with at least $1 million to invest. He has a BEng, a MBA, was on a sports team at university. And in April he titled his latest video SpaceX and OpenAI: The Mega IPO Grift. The podcast version is called episode 406 "when massive private companies go public."

He also uses the term "front running" from our friends in cryptocurrency.

Keeping the float (value of shares available to trade on the open market) low would enable scams like all the ways of keeping the USD price of cryptocurrency from collapsing.

Edit/ The podcast is pretty mild but contains the sentences "investing in IPOs on a secondary market is one of the worst investment strategies that you could possibly employ. They tend to have a first day pop where the price on the public market jumps up relative to the IPO price, but most investors don't get the IPO price."

Mild nit: "frontrunning" was a term (and practice) in use before crapto trading.

I think the classical example was "you ask your broker to buy some shares at $20 each, the broker waits as long as possible, and if the price drops low enough it buys them for $19.80, keeps 20 cents, and tells you it paid $20."

Edit / in fact it was "Ms. Easton, a widow of Boston, MA wants to buy $1,000 of a penny stock, so the broker buys $10, waits for her purchase to drive the price up, and sells them at a profit before going out to a showing of one of those exciting new moving pictures."

Yep. The broker is effectively buying at $19.80 and still selling to their customer at $20.00. Now, crypto is actually innovative in just how easy this is to do. In fact it's almost required since the transactions are processed in bulk and the miners get to decide what order all the transactions in that block go in. The public mempool also means that even if the miners aren't doing it themselves anyone who wants to front-run basically has a whole conga line of good-faith users (suckers) to get set in front of and identify the most profitable position. Without the miner's privilege you'll need to deal with transaction fees and it's going to be harder to find opportunities, but it's so easy to search that I wouldn't expect it to matter.

I mean, the classical pitch for an IPO is the same as any other large investment, right? You get a great big chunk of capital that you can throw at scaling or improving processes or building our your manufacturing capabilities or whatever, and then that investment of capital in your business in turn generates a financial return for investors. But in an industry and world where venture capital is plentiful, it shouldn't be surprising that when an IPO rolls around all the low-hanging fruit for improving, scaling, and stabilizing the business have already been done. Instead you're looking for a way to let your earlier investors liquidate their returns and get actual cash that they can invest in new ventures. In the best case that means that the IPO price doesn't move very much and it becomes a stable part of the market, but the incentives are all there to make sure the IPO overvalues the company as much as possible. I would need to do more research but I would suspect you can find an inverse relationship between venture funding and public market success in recent years, at least strong enough to expect the wheels to come off when the initial hype is pushed this high.

the new flipper one will have a "local llm" slopbot, because of course it fucking will. also suspect they've used an llm for the blog post because of the emoji list. and the illustrations are also giving me weird vibes.

https://blog.flipper.net/flipper-one-we-need-your-help

several other people have commented on the tone, and I believe it's just because it's massaged to be more marketing-ly

same with the local LLM crap, it's to appeal to investors

I have seen nerds be mad at them for using Discord and GitHub too, some people are really hard to please

doubt this will ever see the light of day anyway

I don't think it's actually going to be doing a lot of LLMing. It has a coprocessor for inference type stuff, but only 8GB of RAM on the SOC. So I assume they just stuck this in for marketing.

"You should assume that you're being manipulated until they have better systems in place," says Lily Ray, founder of the search engine optimisation (SEO) and AI search consultancy Algorythmic. "We're moving towards this 'one true answer' world.

from here

on the one hand I'm all "save me from marketroids", on the other all "oh so we've solved philosophy?"

dear god what a fucking sentence to be saying as a description of the moment. and I'd fucking bet they're talking to their customers in the same terms/language

"We’re moving towards this ‘one true answer’ world.

This ugly little statement has been true ever since Twitter started eating mainstream media personalities' brains. It's why I consider the modern chatbot to be a direct design descendent of short-form social media -- it's giving you Twitter with zero pushback or hate. Beware anyone who thinks this is a good thing.

took me a second to understand this isn't meant as a funny prank idea

Another read (on substack) on the rising hatred of AI data centres and its political implications

this feels like a form of critihype but i haven't read anything else by this person so i don't know. Examples:

Artificial intelligence is entering public consciousness associated with layoffs, instability, replacement anxiety, corporate concentration, surveillance, and soaring resource consumption.

That is an extraordinarily dangerous emotional foundation for a transformative technology.

The commencement boos matter because they reveal how culturally toxic AI has already become among many young educated Americans. These students understand artificial intelligence well enough to fear it precisely because they already use it. They use it for papers, coding assistance, presentations, summaries, and research. They know the technology works. They know it is improving rapidly.

"oh no, people dislike this wonderful technology!! But it's so wonderful!!"

Whether America ultimately requires these facilities to remain economically competitive may eventually become a legitimate policy debate, but politically that question is almost secondary.

"we really need this stuff guys, people are mad so it might not happen but it's really really important so think of that too"

I found the paragraph that best shows why I hate this:

Globalization became the symbolic villain for the collapse of blue-collar manufacturing communities in America. Entire towns watched factories disappear while political and economic elites insisted the disruption was both inevitable and beneficial.

This is a basically accurate description of what happened.

Whether every fear surrounding globalization was technically correct almost ceased to matter politically because millions of people experienced the same emotional reality: the economy was being reorganized for someone else’s benefit while their communities absorbed the damage.

Again, I this is actually a pretty salient description of what happened. Sure, maybe if you add everything up the benefits outweigh the costs in some abstract way, but it still hurts when those costs are imposed on you and yours without any input. The economic decision-makers decided to sacrifice those people's livelihoods and their futures in exchange for number go up, and they knew it was happening even as they couldn't do anything to stop them.

This whole piece acts like the backlash to outsourcing was irrational and dumb, like those salt-of-the-earth morons didn't know what was good for them. But the author is either too deep in the neoliberal soup to recognize this as the wrong and cruel argument it is or they recognize this and lack the courage to commit to that position openly.

AI is increasingly becoming that same symbolic villain for white-collar America

Emphasis added. I don't think the villainy behind these AI projects is symbolic at all. Symptomatic of deeper systemic problems maybe, but very real. People aren't failing to grant this transformative technology it's moment in the sun, they are clearly seeing the transformation that the tech oligarchs are trying to impose on them and doing their damndest to reject it. This still leaves a whole lot of fights left to decide what the future should look like, but I find it legitimately heartening to see so many people from so many different parts of society coming together and loudly declaring "Not this!"

same sl0bslack author has this piece (complete with punchy LLMisms)

https://thecycle.substack.com/p/please-stop-trying-to-murder-trump

Before his murder, Kirk was influential, sure. After his murder, he became something much bigger. A symbol. A martyr. Turning Point exploded with energy, attention, emotional intensity, and recruitment after his death. In death, Kirk became more powerful than he was alive. Now multiply that effect by a million and attach it to Donald Trump.

Uh didn't I recently read how TPUSA has basically imploded just half a year since this dipshit got his head blown off (sorry "destroyed at a debate")? Everyone with eyes to see could tell that the right jumped on this as a Reichstag fire analog, prepared to usher in a new consensus, but it fizzled out after a couple of weeks (unfortunately not before a number of people lost their jobs)

Trump is sui generis. He's not a person universally beloved. He's a deeply polarizing chaos agent who has twisted the right into his weird image, but the point is, that image is incoherent and changes with his moods daily. There's no Trump ideology other than what's in his Truth social feed at the moment.

Would he being assassinated bring peace and order to the land? No. Would it usher in a new thousand year Republican age? Also no. Would it be bad. Yes, but not as bad as this pseudo-leftist believes.

Also it goes without saying, don't assassinate people.

kirk's mentor died from covid before, but kirk was face of this org so it had to end this way. i think that fuentes tried to do entryism there with low degree of success. i only got reminded of this dipshit once after he died, 2w ago, nobody cares at this point about his org, it's a spent force

@fullsquare @gerikson remember that they all fight for attention and audience, and both are limited supply.

there are people who are in the far right communication ecosystem for the ideological reasons, there are grifters, there are opportunists, and they all hate each other.

and it's not much better on the top: they all distrust and hate each other, just the financial stakes are very high, and the potential for damage is higher.

I'm also pretty sure that the ideologues, grifters, and opportunists are all the same people.

At least the retiree who was jailed for 37 days for posting a meme has gotten a settlement:

https://www.fire.org/news/victory-tennessee-man-jailed-37-days-trump-meme-wins-835000-settlement-after-first-amendment

Here's Florida settling for almost half a million Ameros for firing someone for posting on a private Instagram that Kirk was a giant douche who got what was coming to him (paraphrased)

https://www.aclufl.org/press-releases/civil-rights-lawyers-secure-485000-settlement-for-fwc-biologist-fired-over-charlie-kirk-social-media-post/

Rationalists: we should always incorporate new data into our worldview

Also rationalists: I found some anthropology study of Australian First nations from 1899 and found it fascinating

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QZM6pErzL7JwE3pkv/shortplav?commentId=zn2bXx2WmLmyGiefm

Of course they measured skulls.

See, it's a good practice under the principle of charity to read as much fascist propaganda as you can and incorporate it into your worldview. It doesn't matter who said things, but rather whether they're true, and since you're a rational agent you can surely evaluate each claim with perfect objecitivity. Digging a 19th-century eugenics study is expanding your objectivity score.

Reading polemics from leftists too? lol no what are you talking about, they're all irrational and biased

/s

The heartwarming story of the PHI sponge helping the professional racist also hate fat people.

Then again, there is a lot of synergy between the inevitable antifatness and his usual project of hating black people.

So a mid-sized software company called Epic is chatting with Cremieux / Jordan Lasker on twitter?

If your employer is using their software, that might be something to email and ask for a meeting about.

All hospital systems I’ve used use Epic’s software for medical charting which is why I’m baffled

Epic has no competition which is why it can do whatever it wants, like make garbage software and talk to garbage people.

in which our dearest friend DHH has become an unpaid shill for the novel Camp of the Saints

https://xcancel.com/dhh/status/2046982319353778391

nevertheless, the finest minds at hackernews and elsewhere have assured me that he's just a normal, sensible center right kind of guy! nothing untoward going on here, i advise every boutique computer manufacturer known to man to financially support him and his hyprland reskin wankfest.

FTX investor the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan is a major investor in SpaceX. This seems to be part of the Teachers’ Innovation Platform from April 2019. Mr. Kipling said it best:

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire.

Meanwhile the Canadian stock market is up 40% in the past 1 year.