Empty rooms and Fifa cancellations - US hotels fear World Cup washout
28d 10h ago by lemmy.nz/u/throws_lemy in world from www.bbc.com
Boycott the shit outta this fash cup
I’m gonna give you the lemmy peace prize for this, but skip me a few cool billion first
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The Aryan came third.
Second, and by all account Luz Long was a standup guy.
Long was the first to congratulate Owens, embracing the African-American in front of Adolf Hitler. Owens was later the best man at the wedding of Long's son.
Don't let out of context photos dictate the narrative and warp your views.
But the system was racist, whether he was or not.
Shouldn’t 2nd and 3rd be at different heights?
Most are only higher in the middle.
https://images.indianexpress.com/2020/08/Hamilton-Reuters.jpg
Both losers.
Settle down, Ricky Bobby
ist he 2nd? It would make sense for the stands to see the front side of the podium, no?
They don't care if you or any other poors boycott, your pennies mean nothing to them. There needs to be more protestors outside the cup than audience inside it. Clog the stroads. Chant until the words of outside reality break the fantasy within.
If you live there absolutely. If you don't do not travel to the States. They aggressively do not like foreigners.
Do not book a hotel room and fund the fascism machine in order to protest the fascism machine.
Never done anything but that. Sadly that doesn't matter, it will take SO MUCH before any boycott will have any actual effect on them, both from the average person and the ones putting in the real money, trading teams and players, building the stadiums etc. I have never had any interest in sports but my experience is that most people really like it but also have never given a single second of thought to the dealings of it all. It's pure "Hurrdurr, team from my city/country make ball go into net or whatever make me happy". It's so fucking dumb.
It is the rich who are actually attending the games.
We could do by not watching it, but a lot of people only talk and when action requires minor inconvenience they will give up.
Thanks to everyone refusing to spend money in or toward my country right now, you're literally keeping money away from an organization trying to terrorize and imprison us or worse.
Screwing over FIFA is a nice cherry on top too.
I'm leaving the US and one of the first things I did was convert all my USD to local currency. I'm doing my best to actively extract from the US and bring it elsewhere, to hell with my home country
I'm confused as to why you think converting your money was a notable act? What was the alternative?
More people dumping usd means lower demand for it, potentially lowers it's value. I know it's more complicated than that and my contribution is basically pennies but I'm hoping it helps a bit
That's... not how currency markets works. At all. Tell me, what do you think happened to the dollars?
You essentially exported them. More US dollars are now in international use than before.
As you said, not a significant amount in any way, but just bizarre to celebrate contributing almost nothing to the wrong outcome.
Do you want them to hold onto it forever, never use it or burn them? (Which will lower inflation for usd based economies anyway)
No? But... Just not think that they're doing anything particularly notable? Keeping their money in dollars wasn't an option anyway.
And so it's not contributing to the wrong outcome, right?
They're saying (bizarrely, as if moving abroad but keeping their currency in dollars was a realistic option anyway) that it somehow contributes to reducing the influence of the dollar worldwide.
It doesn't. It means someone bought US dollars using a different currency (more of an exchange, but the initiating party is essentially buying) and now someone has US dollars that they need to spend. Either by buying products direct from the USA, or by they themselves selling US dollars to someone else, circulating it, until eventually it is repatriated (or destroyed, physically or in value, I guess).
The way you reduce a currency's influence is by making it unstable or devaluing it, basically anything that stops people wanting to buy it or accept it as stored value.
Do you to to explain how supply and demand has anything to do with decreasing the use of US dollars as an international trading standard?
They decoupled, they don't have to follow US news and for each bad news hurt both psychologically and financially.
... yes? That's what emigration is
Why would they keep their USD if they don't spend it anymore and they clearly do not believe the country is going down a good path?
That's exactly what I'm saying?
Ah my bad, thought you were questioning their decision to do so whereas you're actually saying it's perfectly normal, right?
I guess they meant to highlight that they are "all in" and not looking back.
Power to you
also fifa and thier president is corrupt as hell anyways.
So, a lot of tickets have been sold, but no hotels have been booked so far? Maybe ticket scalpers don't need hotels?
And why the heck should anybody travel to the US under the current administration, where ICE puts random people in concentration camps?
Yep bunch of scalpers gonna be out cash....and honestly hope no one from a foreign country comes here until ICE is gone. I think people are realizing how dangerous it is to come here as a foreigner right now.
I highly recommend people avoid the USA. It's really bad. Yes, you will be arrested and the more time you spend in prison, the more money they get. So they won't let you go for months/years. Don't come here.
Never crossed my mind.
Even before diaper Donnie took power, I still didn’t wanna go to the USA. It’s been a shit hole for decades. Longer than I’ve been alive
i heard the scalpers were trying to sell it on the different subs related to the world cup, most of them get balked and thier posts getting deleted.
Fuck FIFA and their boot licking, corrupt bullshit. Somehow I think they've managed to be more corrupt than any of the US based sporting organizations.
FIFA is up there as one of the most corrupt organizations out there. There's not a US sporting org that even comes close.
Cheerleading might come close.
Bunch of pedos
Its also very dangerous and they've avoided being labeled a "sport" to avoid certain regulations. According to this article it accounts for over 50% of catastrophic injuries in female athletes - https://www.sportsmed.org/membership/sports-medicine-update/winter-2025/flips-falls-and-fractures-the-reality-of-cheerleading-injuries
It may have gotten better in recent years, it's been a while since I read up on the subject.
And the Olympics.
Good point. Cheerleading and gymnastics, although idk if that's mainly a US problem.
LOL. Liberty Media, Indy 500...
No one outside of USA has heard of either. FIFA is a global organisation.
No one outside the USA has heard of Formula 1? Ok.
Indy 500 has nothing to do with Formula 1. Different cars, different rules, different drivers, etc.
Liberty Media owns Formula One Management (FOM), the company responsible for the production of F1 as a piece of media, while the International Automobile Federation (FIA) is responsible for the rule formula itself, the stewards, marshalls, race director, etc.
So when the person said, “no one outside of the US has heard of either” they were wrong. Liberty Media certainly isn’t as well-known a name as Formula 1, but it owns Formula 1.
And Formula one is massively corrupt. F1 races are also hotbeds of human trafficking.
There may be some races, but ladies, that's not why your husband is there.
IndyCar is run by a few billionaires who all support MAGA, and your government spends hundreds of millions of your taxpayer dollars supporting teams.
Roger Penske getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom for no reason.
F1 races are also hotbeds of human trafficking.
According to some Russian propaganda conspiracy forum?
There may be some races, but ladies, that's not why your husband is there.
Sure, nobody who goes to a race goes to see cars drive quickly...
There may be some races, but ladies, that’s not why your husband is there.
Maybe if your husband is a millionaire. The formula fans I personally know, regardless of gender, like fast cars not trafficked humans.
He's a sleb, Trump loves 'em.
Who said F1 had anything to do with indycar? Fucking read?
Indycar is broadcast in 200 countries. It's just another big corrupt sport.
I'm not familiar with the corruption of Indy 500 and I hadn't heard of Liberty Media until reading this comment chain. Is Liberty Media a US based org or does F1 just have some events in the US?
Forget about the corruption. Who wants to watch a bunch of guys in Nomex drive in circles for extended periods?
They have always been a corrupt to the bone org.
are they licking their own boots?
or just cleaning them as usual
The AHLA said this does not align with Fifa's statement that more than five million tickets have been sold,, external and it creates a risk that "the anticipated economic lift may fall short".
Lol...
It's obvious what's happening, but it's not as good as people are thinking.
The reason to kets are so expensive, is American reselling processes.
Scalpers ought up all the tickets immediately, and instantly relisted them for higher. New scalpers are buying those, and listing them again.
Everytime they're resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster. And Fifa is likely getting a piece of that in addition to their original piece.
FIFA is going to make a shit ton of money. Scalpers may lose some, but what little "economic incentive" from the games won't materialize, because we're almost guaranteed to have a bunch of "unsold" tickets that were sold 4-5 times already.
People already there may be able to capitalize on tickets being cheap right before games start as scalpers panic, but no one will travel short notice. And once the first games air with a bunch of empty seats, people will try to wait till last minute and buy tickets. Likely getting ripped off at the event and trying to enter with fake tickets
The entire thing is going to turn into a giant cluserfuck, and that's without ICE running around like they're almost guaranteed to.
You couldn't pay me enough to show up in the general vicinity of one of these games
Everytime they're resold, another cut gets taken out by Ticketmaster.
Yep, this is why the scalper issue will never get resolved, because they also benefit from it. They will literally do every convoluted way to “prevent” scalping except the actual solution: resales can only be done at original ticket price or lower, and no reselling fees go to ticketmaster.
That was pretty much how things worked for Ticketmaster in Norway when I had someone bail on going to a festival we were planning on attending together, as I recall. So it can be addressed, just probably need to be in a country with a functional government and regulations.
I’d even be fine with resale prices limited to original sale price plus a nominal FLAT fee for ticket master.
Why should Ticketmaster get anything from a resale?!
TM itself can fuck off, but a ticket supplier is providing a service, and transferring tickets is part of that service. Unless the seller is literally just handing physical tickets off to a buyer, the mediating service is using resources to facilitate the transfer, which costs them money.
How much does UPDATE tickets SET holder = @newuserid WHERE holder = @olduserid AND ticket_id = @ticketid cost?
That depends, how comfortable are you with SQL injection directly from the webpage with no other security measures?
No idea, but I doubt it costs nothing to facilitate a secure transfer. And if scalpers are ever going to be deterred, systems like this will be necessary and have costs to do so. Obviously that's not why TM takes their cut, but it will be an expense even in an ideal system.
Look, I hate Ticketmaster too. But there’s an infrastructure cost. I started with a percentage fee, but that leads to incentive for higher resale values. A nominal transaction flat fee not to exceed $1.00 would make sense
Would be funny if the only people attending the games were the last scalpers left holding the bag like 'eh may as well'
Seems like a good way to launder money
Wouldn't it be fun if the scalpers would end up with loads of unsold tickets?
If they get resold 5 times, that's four scalpers making money and one losing...
That's not gonna solve the problem, especially since Ticketmaster offers up tickets early to large volume buyers and even reserves huge blocks for them.
Ticketmaster doesn't give a fuck what the person who sits there actually paid or if the seat is empty
Because everytime it resells, they get the same percentage of an ever growing number.
The product is ticket sales, so they sell the same ticket as many times as they can.
Empty seats won't solve anything. And if it keeps happening it'll end up like airplanes where they just sell someone else a new ticket at a discount and profit off the seat again.
We need to actually fix it, and not just for the Cup
Yep, ai got tickets direct from FIFA. Two decent seats (tier 2). They cost me $450 each. They are reselling for $1200+. I am not selling but hope the scalpers lose.
Ha. Those will be $30 when they need to pack the stands for TV.
How does that work if the tickets are owned by scalpers?
good luck… tons of "at cost" tickets are not selling
OK. First, FIFA booking out a heap of hotel rooms then dropping them when they realised they won't be able to scalp them is shitty behaviour, but probably not out of the norm. Raising prices to astronomical heights is also shitty behaviour, but it's the capitalist nation of the world so what do you expect?
The elephant in the room that got glossed over with one sentence in the article is: nobody in their right mind wants to visit the USA. The place is a fucking disaster and the chances of a foreigner getting shot, locked up or deported for pretty much no reason is so high you've got to be a total fuckwit to want to go there. If I was given a free ticket to the US with spending money included, I'd still be asking for a refund.
I still hope the Canada and Mexico games are completely sold out though. Watching the juxtaposition of empty "free world" stadia vs full "shit hole country" stadia is going to be glorious.
They won’t let that happen, they’ll give away tickets to homeless people to get bums on seats if that’s what it takes.
We're all just expendable little pawns in their money games. That's the real sport to them.
Literally bums on seats in that case.
Yeah, dumbshits may not even deport you back to your home country. You from Egypt? Maybe just put you on this plane to El Salvador. Close enough, right?
nobody in their right mind wants to visit the USA
You don't need that many people to fill a stadium. And anyone rich enough to travel around the world for a football match isn't going to be the type that TSA bothers.
If the World Cup has a lot of half empty stadia, I'd be happy.
It might be interesting if the Mexican and Canadian stadia were full though.
I hope Canadians grow a pair and boycott the entire thing. Fuck FIFA.
I don't think a lot of Canadians or Mexicans are going to be able to afford to go to the games in their own countries. They may be hosting, but the ticket prices are absurd.
That will never happen. Based on some of the events and attendance of those events the World Cup will be fine. Everybody just won’t be able to charge 1000% markups.
You said everything will be fine but the entire point is that's not true... Things might be fine for ticket sales for the venues. But that doesn't mean they're fine for local businesses and local taxpayers who thought that they would be generating revenue for their local communities.
And that's the whole point, right? This is commercialized to perfection and everyone has their payouts cleanly carved out so that local communities lose. A few very large corporations win, and of course the international soccer organization is notoriously corrupt and has been, so you know that they're getting their payouts.
In other words, this is what happens when you have monopolies and capitalism is left unchecked. The customer gets f*****, local communities get f*****, some rich people make more money, and f*** them for being such greedy assholes.
Sounds like what happens with the Olympics and Commonwealth Games.
Like at London 2012 where there was a ban on chips (fries for our US friends) from anywhere that wasn't McDs until backlash got strong enough. Imagine granting a single company the sole right to chopping potatoes into long sticks and putting them in hot oil for a few minutes. Even in the glorious 2010s and the days of the "millennial lifestyle subsidy" our ugly late stage capitalism was showing.
Good.
No problem.
FIFA's inaugural Peace Prize winner will fix everything.
To be clear... you mean he's going to determine the winning team, right?
If by “winning team” you mean “claims the trophy for himself”; yes. But don’t worry, there’s a feast of room temperature McDonald’s waiting for the victors.
only after bettin errr I mean investing heavily in a totally random team, and not the definitive winner... wink wink
Turns out people don't want to come to your country when you harass them at the gate. Write that down, maybe we'll remember it for later...probably not.
No qualms about all the slaves who died building the one in Qatar but if the wealthy might be inconvenienced, then it becomes an actual problem
No qualms about all the slaves who died building the one in Qatar
Also relatively unattended. In part because of the atrocious reputation of the county. But far more because it was 50⁰ C on a cool day out there.
The American Games don't even have that excuse.
So far the immigration enforcement agency has managed to kill two people neither of them immigrants. Not that it would be better if they just killed immigrants, but at least they'd be sticking within their job description.
Your pedo boss made it crystal clear that it doesn't want "aliens" in the US. Why are you all acting surprised when no "aliens" are coming? Or is the surprised because we are the "right kind of alien"?
Apparently white South Africans are the right kind.
Only if they are white and Nazi enough.
Only white ones when he had a say in it
trump abandoned the bhors after they landed in florida. musk and trump had no use for them anymore after that.
Many of us aren't surprised at all. This outcome was obvious to us from a mile away.
or space aliens.
Maybe they can use AI to fix this. /s
It'll be fun zooming in on the "enhanced" crowd to see all the people with three arms and Francis Bacon faces.
I know I wouldn't want to travel here. White ladies from Canada, UK, and Australia have ended up in detention centers. They're supposed to be the demographic MAGA pretends to want to protect.
Wasn’t the Australia one for a legitimate reason though? They messed up and admitted they were traveling to tattoo someone on a tourist visa.
If memory serves that was a German Tattoo artist. The Australian was deported for being pro-Palestinian.
You know, rounding tourists up into detention centers because they brought their work phone on their vacation is not normal behavior. Even if you want to deport them, fine - it's your country, but detaining is not just a bit over the top.
Let them figure out where to stay and how to get home as soon as possible, then deny entry in the futre. Like a normal country that doesn't get off on "tough" rhetoric.
They didn’t just bring their work phone, they admitted to an immigration officer they planned on performing a job in the United States. Also, other countries will detain you pending deportation as well. The US is unique because of the number of deportations and the speed they are building new facilities to deport people.
You do realize that it's not just a single tourist who's been detained in the US right? Did you forget this one? You can go find more as well.
And no, it is not normal to detain pending deportation unless there are specific risks with the person in question, for example if you've committed an actual crime or if you're likely to not leave voluntarily.
There's been more than one Australian lady.
Wtf does that matter? We're locking people up! What's legitimate about that unless they've committed terrible crimes or are a threat to the public?
Holy shit, that lady was gonna tattoo someone!
Send them home, don't put them in jail.
Soccer fans are nationalist assholes, they will show up, to watch players like Ariaga! Ariaga II! Bariaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!
OPEN WIDE FOR SOME SOCCER!!!
There are a LOT of uneducated unprincipled liminally conscious dumbasses all over the world, the US didn't invent them. They mechanized and mass produced them, but the industry is thriving globally.
He passed the ball, passes again sigh and holds it… holds it..
HE PASSES THE BALL, PASSES AGAIN, HOLDS IT, HOLDS IT….
I've been slapping these bad boys on gas pumps all over town
That's what happens when 70 million voters drink too much nasty Orange Kool-Aid. FIFA should move all the knock out stage matches, including the final, to Mexico and Canada.
2024 sitouts: are we a joke to you?
Nobody wants to be in the deportation world cup
Hey just a general PSA; can anyone help me find my tiny violin I think I lost it somewhere
I think they found it first.
lol. it wasn't even mine. i stole it off the interwebz.
I was looking for a different tardigrade playing a violin, and thought the first was just perfect.
Good
Excellent.
Next Iran wins Against murica in fifa 2026
It should be the first game. Imagine Trump trying to shut the whole thing down after a loss lol.
Iran's not going to play in the US. It would be suicidal with how Trump is behaving.
Iran is going to the states, was on the news here in europe
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/soccer/iran-world-cup-2026-schedule-locations-dates-times
That's what the schedule says... What are the Iranian players and coaches saying? Oh look, there not going.
Ty, for info
What's an unfortunate set of circumstances that were completely unavoidable and impossible to predict unless you had an IQ greater than that of a sea pickle.
It's a good thing Donald Trump is an idiot otherwise he'd be utterly humiliated. Fortunately for him he's incapable of such complex emotions.
And after FIFA gave the prestigious FIFA peace prize to that great peacemaker we call our President. (/s, if that wasn't obvious).
This article is still trying to sale the world cup to Americans. Blue dot fever is everywhere this summer. The only reason you should be traveling for the world cup is to hold up a sign on the outside calling for the arrest BB and Trump.
I must be out of the loop. What does "blue dot fever" mean?
It’s a reference to Carl Sagan’s “pale blue dot” speech. The blue dot is planet Earth. Blue Dot Fever is about the whole world coming together to reject fascism in Israel and the United States.
Blue Dot Fever is a reference to the symbol and color used by ticket services (ie Ticker Master) to indicate an open seat at a event.
Edit: Many events have been canceled by artist and shows so to the population (manly in America) not having money because of oligarchy is running rampant.
Anyway, I won't be watching the World Cup.
I wasn't before, but now i'm not doing it harder
Are you boycotting ???
Fuck that, I'm MANCOTTING
Now I'm hungry for pasta.
I prefer pizzas
Nobody likes you anymore
good!
They have it at meadowlands, and NJT wants $98.. Most of the European guests assume they can just walk the mile, but that area is such a car dependent hellscape that you literally can't 🤣🤣🤣 Really paints a picture of the US.. If the top city can't have basic transit or walkable areas then I wouldn't want to return.
This is PR, the group matches may be half full but i guarantee you every game after will be packed. I wish i was wrong but this is just wishful thinking.
i guarantee you every game after will be packed
Time will tell. I suspect there's a certain bias, as the high rollers who can afford to fly halfway around the world to sit for a few games aren't the ones TSA will be manhandling.
But I can also see a lot of foreign news media scaring people off from the games based purely on the growing reputation of fascist Western travel conditions.
I guess time will tell. There's certainly not a shortage of locals who can fill a stadium. So it might be a moot point.
I do think we'll see a bunch of empty seats in high profile matches though. Corporate accounts love to gobble up more prime seating than they know what to do with.
considering LA was the first site of the "ice invasion" it got people scared as it was heavily televised throughout the world. THE MSM realized it so they stopped reporting on ice raids as much as they did.
I refer to MSM as Billionaire-owned Media.
Or the "BO Media" if you will... Something stinks about it!
US = play stupid games win stupid prizes.
Oh noes FIFAs a bust.
Oh well.
Next.
I don't feel like being shot because I will inevitably call an ICE agent a Nazi and tell him to go fuck himself.
Hmm…does this mean the Mexican and Canadian host cities are going to get swamped instead?
I have zero interest in attending a game, but I do have to make trips to Toronto and the traffic, even at the best of times…
Aww man, you're telling me they hiked the prices for nothing?
That doesn’t bode well for the future of the FIFA Peace Prize as an institution
I was really looking forward to some longevity there.
It is always going to be a "win" for the pedoking
Ah, yes, FIFA, mhm, yes, they're on the list of institutions that should properly fuck themselves to death.
I was told hosting the World Cup would bring in eleventy zillion dollars.
Only Trump could fuck it up so badly
Good.
Many seemingly invincible businesses empires have collapsed on some beautiful ordinary day when people just said "you know, we can't pay for this, this is not the price we can pay - we would want to keep doing this, but the price clearly outweighs any benefits to us".
Fuck Jerry Seinfeld though
He was never funny anyway. The rest of the cast are hilarious, but his character was just irritating, like him IRL
if anyone is as corrupt as trump, it would be the president of fifa.
'Peace and quiet' prize for no one attending the world cup :D
Good news then!
It will really say something if people are no show for us world cup. It takes a lot ot keep fans at home.
Hope nobody goes
Maybe they shouldn't have set the ticket prices at $7,000 for the nosebleeds
cuz ICE ain’t so very NICE?
Excellent. This is the first time we have seen a good outcome for anything during Trumps term so far.
That's the trophy? Ugly as Hell.
No, thank you
Let the world cup crash and burn
I was looking to visit but then saw the ticket + hotel prices and noped out
Look for ICE detention center its free ,get even free return ticket . /s
After a few months, and you probably won’t end up where you started on departure from amerikkka
Whaw ,free worldtour 🤣
Okay
If people are dumb enough to gather around and watch people kick a ball around AND pay anything for that privilige, they are dumb enough to travel anywhere and pay more money.
US is a stupid shit hole because of stupid people, and watching people play kick ball just drives home how stupid people are.
There is no hope.
Edit: I should be more clear: its the weird "rally around MY team, emotionally attached". You don't have a team it's just billionaires investing in a circus. It's not the athleticism or even watching that part I am criticising. It's the same with politics, religion, and sports.
I love watching sports but I don't love paying $100 per ticket (on the low end) in a publicly funded stadium where somehow the billionaire owner gets $98 of that. Sports fans are crazy.