Google CEO Sundar Pichai says graduates booing AI will shape its future — and live with its consequences
24d 6h ago by lemmy.world/u/inclementimmigrant in technology from www.businessinsider.com
"Now it's your time to realize your dreams," he told graduates. "The timing could not be more perfect."
My dream is a world without ultracapitalist CEOs.
My dream is that when I search something on the web I get results 100% arranged on relevance with no commercially motivated rearranging of results. I also dream about ad free OSs, but that one came true for me back in 2005 (thanks Linux!).
Well, Linux isn't totally ad free. Once you use it, you become the ad.
That is a lot closer to the truth than I’m comfortable with 🙃
Ngl this is such an underrated comment haha. 😂
I thought linux came out around 1992?
that came true FOR ME
Not everyone adopted Linux the moment it was released
Lost_My_Mind is calling Linux gay
It's one of the steps of Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism, so that checks out.
Man, I can't wait for gay space communism, gotta be more fun than this shit we got going on.
Yeah, but I was still pissing in a hole next to the sandbox back then. :-D I got started in late high school/ early college years, went back to Windows for a year or so, then fully committed to Linux going forward.
My dream is a multiplayer marrio brothers on end to end en, something.
Don't let your dreams stay memes
Now it's your time to realize that dream, the timing could not be more perfect.
My dream is chilling by the pool/lake/river doing fuck all with some friends and something nice to drink (alcohol or not).
I can already realize my dream whenever the fuck I want, and AI helps 0% achieving any part of it.
Sounds like a threat.
"These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact," he added, referring to AI.
Out of context it sounds like a threat, but in connect it just sounds like vacuous CEO-speak, designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
Vacuous CEO speech is almost always a threat.
People are out here still rooting for the circus ring master when we have known for decades now that they're beating and enslaving the elephants, tigers, and crew alike, while splitting what the pick pockets get from the crowd while everyone enjoys the show.
Great name for a band though.
I think he meant the people booing are the ones making the threat to Pichai.
In that case, carry on.
designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
Ok, I see why they are so enamored of LLM chat...
Now it's your time to realize your dreams
Okay, get in!

They can't even fucking troubleshoot basic electronics. The less popular the product, the more likely they are to give you instructions that might kill you. Literally kill you, by the way.
I love the hubris.
Humans aren't evolved to process that much change, says a man who grew up in the 20th century. At the start war was just a scrap in a field, the most advanced piece of technology was an x-ray machine, and a major airport was a relatively flat piece of grass made for gliders made out of wood and canvas, by the end we'd had two world wars and one cold war, computers were everywhere, we had MRI machines and satellites and even a space station in orbit, and there are millions of flights a day on jet liners.
Yeah, no other human has ever lived through so much change.
These guys pretend they reinvented the Internet after they ruined it.
"...and live with its consequences."
That's why they're booing, you moron.
What a creepy thing to say. The guy pulling the strings on Ai talking about consequences lol
Someone should Luigi this guy
Luigi is an automatic upvote. Innocent though he may be. Which he is, innocent. I'm serious, the cops are full of shit, on everything, a manifesto? Gtofo of here, we all wrote that shit after, because health insurance is the devil.
Do you side with Jesus or the Devil?
I side with plumbers
Sounds like the devil to me.
I side who has the best artillery
Although satisfying it wouldn't really solve anything. They would just elect another CEO. They're all exactly the same anyway.
You want to really make a change you burn down the data centres, that would really hit them where it hurts.
I mean, they'd run out of people willing to do the things that inspire French revolutionary style ideas eventually. But no, it's probably not a feasible solution.
Too reactive to really work. Efforts to prevent fuck shits like this from getting into positions of disproportionate privilege and power in the first place are needed. Good luck with that in a capitalist system though.
It’s probably time for all of these billionaires to start being scared of consequences.
What do you think they're scared of? People booing them?
Unironically, a bit. These people are pure ego, and being booed is actually a thing they take great offense at
I'd settle for all their chefs, security, nannies, janitors etc., to tell them "thought you said AI was going to replace humans?"
They only care about money.

Rebellion
Lol. Yeah I'm sure they're all adopting this technology because a shit load of people AREN'T using it. That makes sense.
They're not afraid of "rebellion", they're afraid of higher taxes. That's why they try to convince people to either vote for Republicans or pretend both parties are the same.
Both parties are the same when it comes to committing genocide in Palestine, so with that said, I don't really care what their domestic policies are. "Do you want to vote for the slightly kinder Hitler or the meaner Hitler? Look at you, now it's your fault that meaner-Hitler got elected!"
After Luigi, its not the same anymore
If they can't even impeach trump I'm not getting my hopes up.
They impeached him twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump#House_vote
The consequences : ....
Nothing..
He was Charged with felony first-degree falsifying business records (34 counts)
Verdict: Guilty on all counts
The consequences : ....
Nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_in_New_York
This begs the questions, "why wasn't he ever sentenced?" and once he is no longer president can he be sentenced to do hard time for any of those 34 counts?
He wasn't president when he was sentenced
Well, not technically. He had his sentence "discharged" the week of Jan 6 2025, which was technically while he was not president, but well after he had stolen his second term and it was certain he would be the president in about 2 weeks. So, he can't be sentenced for those 34 felonies anymore, but I wonder if he would have been sentenced to time if he hadn't stolen a second term.
Probably not, since the judge who unconditionally discharged any sentence was at the very least a Trump apologist who bent over backwards to give Trump the white glove treatment. At the very least Judge Merchan could have assessed fines equal to the value Trump stole with his crimes, or even put Trump on probation. Nope, just let him off free and clear.
I just hope some enterprising state AGs find more things to charge him with and he spends the last couple of years of his life rotting in prison.
Democrat politicians are not the proletariat lol (except at the local / county-level, potentially)
Thats not really the topic
AI will replace them
I’m so tired of hearing reports of what CEOs and billionaires say, as if it was news. These people aren’t smart, they just managed to stay on stop for longest. Quit giving them a platform.
They own the platforms.
Most CEOs are smart. They're smart in the corporate politics that keep one in such a position. They're apparently doing something right in the eyes of the board members, or they'd be fired.
They are not smart in any sense that benefits humanity. The only thing they benefit is themselves.
"The board" is mostly just CEOs of other companies. All they have to do is vote for each others' absurd compensation packages, no smartness required. It's a true circlejerk.
Some CEOs I’ve met aren’t smart.
The vast majority that I’ve worked with are deeply analytical, highly intelligent and understand people really well. By any measure they are “very smart”.
But what all CEOs are, like most people who get to that level, is incredibly disciplined and willing to sacrifice almost anything to achieve at work. They work insane hours, at least all the ones I’ve seen.
It’s a nice story that it’s just a lottery and once you’re there you’re somehow in some secret club. The reality, at least as far as I’ve seen it, is very different.
By any measure they are “very smart”.
Psychopaths. The word you're looking for is psychopaths.
Maybe true in general. I’d love to hear about your experiences. I’ve worked closely to four CEOs. Only one of them felt like they treated people as objects. The rest were actually deeply concerned about how other people felt.
how large were those companies?
25000, 55000, 200, 2100 employees.
These folks just don't get it.
Let's put aside the discussion of whether their enthusiasm for the tech is merited or not, that is beside the point.
A commencement speaker is not there to talk about themselves or their favorite things. They are not there to teach the graduates anything or try to debate with the graduates.
A commencement speaker is there to honor and respect the graduates. To commend them on how far they have come and express optimism for what they will bring to society in the future. To make them feel appreciated for all they have done and are about to do. To feel inspired by what they have accomplished and the possibilities they bring to society. There has been and will be plenty of opportunity to educate, debate, and convince them, but this is not the venue for any of that.
Speaking about how "awesome" AI is and how they should be grateful for it is disrespecting them by failing to let them be the focus of their own graduation.
the "Some of you may die" speech by Lord Farquaad from Shrek would be too on-the-nose, tho.
Also to rouse and inspire them.
"I'm working on a machine that will make you guys redundant, and then I'll make those booing me see. l'll make you all see." is hardly going to do that.
He would be much better off talking about how it was the stuff of science fiction not long ago, and how the graduates would be helping to push humanity forward, and make real, things that were also previously considered impossible.
Some of the talks are also just really bad. I've seen a few, and they're little more than ads, or bragging about a thing the institution is doing that's unrelated to the graduates themselves. Saw one where the speaker was talking about how the college was using AI for various things. Why even have that in the graduates' speech?
it'll be hilarious when all this shitware collapses in on itself under the weight of the actual costs.
And the actual costs are starting to hit https://thenextweb.com/news/microsoft-claude-code-retreat-ai-cost
Yeah, an experienced devops can turn a max claude code subscription into a credible position or two. You give it a directory full of indexed md's and access to your playbooks and it's really good at understanding your logs and using saveguarded tools you write for it.
But those data-centers full of the most advanced purposed built machines are expensive AF, and the tech is moving so fast, those boxes from 2 years ago are already too inadequate.
When the seed capital is gone and the ventures all want their payday, the banks aren't going to foot the bill.
AI is here to stay, but the cutting edge will continue become more exponentially more expensive while still only being incrementally better than humans. Sans some amazing breakthrough, it'll price itself out the the market.
well put.
my only question is how many years of this shit will we need to survive until they realize: there's no such thing as a free lunch? yeah, you can get agentic systems working with accuracy and precision, but will it ever be a panacea to dev costs that justify the trillions - TRILLIONS - of dollars invested for the paltry billions of profit?
how many years of this shit will we need to survive
That's largely dependent on the "trillionaires" negotiation with the banks. Some of the data centers are already having trouble getting funded.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers. They're only building them because of the huge return on investment, tax them in real time on what that return looks like. I think a state and federal tax rate above 40% would greatly slow down this bullshit and get some stuff paid for that we actually need. No hiding behind 'losses'. That Equipment gets taxed locally at market value and the warehouse+water+electric hookups are taxed at such rates that the utilities can expand what is necessary without fucking over the residents.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers.
fuckin'a
while still only being incrementally better than humans
That's only true in some extremely rare use cases.
It's not better by default, at least for now. It's better at writing than most of the US's 5th grade adult reading comprehension levels. It's better at logo design than your average coder. It's not better than a trained craft person, but it's often faster. You do have to be really careful to either give it tools that can't fuck things up, or super carefull in reading what it's asking you if it can do.
If you give Claude code a manual, it's shockingly adept at following instructions at speed. Take this license file from my email and update my perforce server. Use my Ansible in /projects/Ansible to connect to it.
Can I read that file?
Can I read that Ansible inventory?
Can I run this Ansible command to find the install folder?
Can I run this Ansible command to copy the file?
Can I run this Ansible command to backup the existing file?
Can I run this Ansible command to install the license?
Can I run this Ansible command to verify the install worked?
Done.
It's not hard, but it's only once a year, and hell if I remember the ins and outs of 1:10000 tasks
From the banchode who had uBlock Origin killed from running on regular Chrome 150 because he thinks it's killing his profit from ads.
https://github.com/w3c/webextensions/issues/1000
r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1tlkaaw/goodbye_chrome_version_150_removes_the/
And of course throwing in AI shite into Chrome with that awfully huge 4gb unwanted addition.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
You know who's also good at it? CEOs. Replace CEOS.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
Spoken like someone who has never used one. I guess this is the place where you can make laughably indefensible comments as long as it fits the vibe.
Spoken like a technozealot.
Well, they're undeniably good at it. Not saying that it's the only thing they do or they're good at.
I can see how LLMs can read better than you, for instance.
That’s why they’re booing.
THATS WHY THEYRE BOOING!
Why do these colleges keep inviting these chucklefucks to speak to the various student bodies that clearly hate them? Humiliation tour or something? Or are they all completely up their own asses?
the leadership at a lot of companies have a very poor read on public sentiment, kind of strange given how much data they collect and how much they like to talk about how good they are at using that data.
And a lot of high level leadership at collages run in the same circles are executives at big companies. These speech events are sort of a benefit for both sides, the leadership at the collage gets to advertise what a good job they’re doing that they were able to get someone so influential to speak, and the speaker gets a sudo-academic platform to state their ideas and an ego boost from the huge in person captive audience.
A lot of them just kind of write off the discontent they see as “a vocal minority”, so when mass confronted with actual public sentiment, i do think it kind of blind sides them.
a sudo-academic platform
There is no escaping Linux here.
… shut!
Why do these colleges keep inviting these chucklefucks to speak to the various student bodies that clearly hate them?
Because the universities are, themselves, riddled with patronage and graft. The privatization of the University systems has turned a lot of these schools into mere extensions of this or that corporate campus. And so the CEOs treat the student body like interns.
It's the next step of their indoctrination into corporate wage slaves. They were just convinced to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a half-assed degree, and now you have to set them up for the frustration of either having a terrible entry level grunt job, or no job at all.
So you send in a Captain of Industry to encourage them to enthusiastically apply their noses to the grindstone in order to reach their dreams of success.
Except people are starting to catch on to the scam, and are letting them know.
To influence their careers.
Probably to try to get some money in sponsorship. Or because they think these are the really smart guys.
American university to just weird. The university of my hometown tends to get speakers who would you would be excited to meet in the street. They had Patrick Stewart once, everyone was totally fine with him.
should replace CEOs with AI. They already talk like it anyway 🤷♂️
If you ask AI models to hallucinate what it would do as CEO, they usually say things that are environment and worker friendly, so it would be an improvement. Of course, they would train the CEO AI with nothing but Henry Ford speeches and books about the grindset.
I can definitely see LLM board members existing. They should already be gutting the PowerPoint filter management layer
I love how butthurt these people get when faced with criticism. Like fucking toddlers
It’s a natural consequence of our society which divides people into teams without any room for discourse in between. The team you’re on is always right 100% of the time, and the opposing team is full of utter and complete evil morons.
CEOs are objectively utter and complete evil morons, though.
I look forward to AI slop making the next group of senior software engineers make complete crap because they have no idea what good software actually is.
There's going to be another market for consultants cleaning up these moron's mess once again.
Well, think of the bigger picture. After 3-4 generations, there won't even BE consultants to clean up the mess. No one will know how to code at all. It's ALL going to be AI.
There will be consultants. Most will be charlatans with an LLM, but there will always be a small number of people who learn the craft because they’re interested… and they will command high salaries by those who understand quality engineering.
It’s not like this is the first time our society has done this. We did it to textiles, then we did it to farming in general.
The difference here is that automation of thought is what’s being promised, but that’s not what’s being delivered. But then, for many of its applications, real thought was never needed in the first place.
Anyway, back to my actual point: manual software development will become a niche hobby like using a hand loom. The skills will survive, but more as a curiosity than a common career path.
I hope I’m wrong, but it all depends on how long it takes the bubble to burst. If the LLM companies get a critical mass of dependence before it does, this will be the result.
I'll believe that when I see software written by an LLM in production for 5 years. The code they write can't really be iterated upon, so any time you want to alter behavior or refactoring, you essentially have to write that section again with the new design.
Maybe that will pan out in time, but so far all I've seen is marketing out extremely far ahead of reality, and that's with today's VC subsidized pricing. It threatens to increase in price from here, and further advancement is expected by many experts to yield diminishing returns now that the training pool is exhausted.
Summon the plumber
Fucking delusional. I’m betting their “AI” will never live up to the promises, good or bad.
It’s all hype to keep investors pouring in money in the hopes that the endless stream of money can fund the development of what they promise and tell us to fear.
It’s a classic scam. “Big return, we promise. We’ll strike oil soon, we just need more money.”
They hate it. Keep doing it.
No.
These graduates, and the incoming generation, won't shape LLM's and GenAI. Limpdick, loser fucking nerd billionaires will.
The kids will be left with scraps, by design, and that's the problem.
I'd like this guy to run for city counsil.
He’s right we may regret leaving the necks of billionaires unsevered
This sounds like a threat.
Enron CEO telling graduating class that they're the future of energy and you better get in line
Pichai has acheived next to nothing in 11 years at google that wasnt set up by previous leadershi-- all while keeping one of the largest and finest development teams in the world. No big product launches since 2015 when he too over. His "bard" AI effort crashed and burned. He can feel free to shut up and sit down. This pencil-dicked loser needs to do more listening than talking.
I have not large doubts that he and even some people in his position elsewhere can be replaced by AI. We could save a hell lot of money and be even more productive!
Google long ago became another IBM: bureaucratic, rent-seeking and no longer innovative.
IBM has (at least had) quite a lot of clever techies too, but as an organization it's brain-dead.
They know they're going to live with the consequences of AI, that's why they're booing it.
I see no reason to listen to what that guy has to say on this topic. He's only out for money and you can't believe a word he says and he's not an expert on it.
I look at everyone this way who is pushing AI shit. Suspicious as fuck.
Maybe he could use some of his millions to fix those nasty ass fucking teeth
What mental gymnastics would you need to not see the obvious contradiction here? He's obviously lying, but how could he think people would actually buy this argument? It's insulting. Super insulting. And yet he will be the winner in the end. AI has singlehandedly ruined mine and many people's lives and he's just LAUGHING AT OUR DEMISE. Is this what Luigi felt before assassinating that health care CEO?
Don't let an innocent man go to jail for what that unnamed gunman did.
idk what you're talkin' about. Luigi didn't do it. He was with me the whole time.
Oh, my mistake. Must've confused him for someone else, lol
Is this what Luigi felt before assassinating delivering justice to that health care CEO?
FTFY
Nah, Luigi was several states over fixing my friend's car that day, couldn't've been him :)
Can confirm. I was the friend.
how could he think people would actually buy this argument?
When you surround yourself with YesMen and hype beast sales guys, how can you not.
These statements are not meant for the graduates, they are meant for the investors
That strangely makes me feel a little better. I suppose because it explains the method to their madness? Still extremely insulted and pissed, but I feel a lot less bloodlust towards Google now
This seems like a wonderful time to share this wonderful song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mzYS-ET8o
oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?
or are you really
generating genocide?
Thank you for sharing the song, that was lovely.
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oh fuck you
and your ai
fuck you elon, fuck you sam,
fuck you sundar pichai
you said the chance
that we all die is
around 1 in 5 – was that hype?
TIL !!!
Ooh thank you... hope I remember that trick lol

We're living with the consequences of his generation and the generation before him currently. Unaffordable housing, low wages, high taxes, falling apart economies and a constant threat that we'll be replaced as soon as possible to please the CEO lords in the name of short term profits!
He's going to have to face consequences, too.
I think he knows
They all do.
I'll have a Sundar Pichai on a brioche bun with mustard and onions, please.
All the supposed top education developed Pichai and it failed. He still believes in the completely fucked up Caste System which leads to his view on AI. He wants to keep the lower class and make sure it remains that way.
I like to infer from this headline that he will NOT live to see the consequences.
Interesting commentary on this by historian Aparna Nair on Bluesky. Essentially, saying that caste and discrimination is inherent in a certain cohort of the society which adhere to racism and eugenics.
https://bsky.app/profile/disabilitystor1.bsky.social/post/3mmlwmp5sf22r
Not visible unless having a Bsky account
But yeah, some of these emigres still cling onto attitudes and prejudices which they then apply to even a foreign environment. In this case, screwing the millions of people having become heavily reliant on Alphabet products. And Americans now have an FBI director of Indian origin with a fuck-you-got-mine mindset.
On top of that, India in a way is a dystopia where the wealth gap is very staggering. Millions in abject poverty and literally eating from scraps, Muslims are increasingly marginalized, women of all ages almost face sexual violence. While simultaneously having nuclear weapons, a space program, and the most active homegrown industries asides from China.
wealthy indians in america comes from a rich caste from india, or from a family. thats why they are seen as "white enough"
There's always two kinds of emigre groups: those being "fuck you got mine" with FU money and the other ne'er-to-do they seek to stamp out and narc to ICE.
discrimination against rich indians is quite less common than other POCs i noticed, since they are one of the richest "ethnicities" in america, thats why they are pretty much acceptable in the GOP, as a group they have "billionaire money+influence" to deflect attention, but not as individuals.
I hope when he gives his lecture, the students egg him on.
And when I say egg him on... I mean throw. At. And a large quantity of.
Let's save some time and just drop a full pallet of egg cartons directly on top of him.
I hope when he gives his lecture, the students egg him on.
It would be a lot more impressive if everyone just stand up and walk away.
what about egg him on, and then stand up and walk away. if you are already there, don't waste the once in a lifetime opportunity
Sundar, my enemy, you are very wrong.
Has there ever been a case where a CEO makes a claim that x will change the future of human history and then the CEO has turned out to be correct?
Remember 3D TVs the technology that was so obviously never going to catch on except amongst CEOs. Now where are they? Can you even buy a 3D TV anymore?
Probably. If their primary trait is being a visionary, having creative ideas about how the future could turn out is gonna produce the occasional hit.
The problem is usually that they're so far removed from the lives of normal people that they genuinely can't imagine our perspective anymore: They don't know what day-to-day challenges we face, how our financial worries influence our priorities, how much purchasing power we have, how that influences our price-to-payoff estimates... They also tend to be quite unconcerned with technical limitations and assume there's gotta be a way to implement whatever they cooked up.
3D TV is a great example: In theory is a fancy luxury for people for whom "regular" 2D TV isn't quite enough. In practice, the technology wasn't (yet?) ready to deliver on that, particularly in the face of the various difficulties (having to wear glasses, struggling with eye strain, health issues and so on).
The idea that consumers wouldn't jump at the chance to replace their TVs with a new, expensive and quite clearly immature technology probably didn't intuitively register with people for whom $1k is a negligible sum.
Probably CEOs in the 70’s and 80’s that predicted that computers would become ubiquitous and part of everyday life when computers were still only used by scientists, business people and hobbyists. Like Steve Jobs.
burn it all down then
It sounds like a vague threat.
Barely veiled I would say.
Go suck a railroad spike, ya jabroni.
Average call center scammer
Am I not getting the joke or is it just racism?

Thank you very much for saying something so funny.
"I've always been extraordinarily optimistic about the next generation," he told the hosts. AI, he said, doesn't change that. "My goal would be to share my experiences, and that's what I'm looking to do."
Oh he is going to get booed
live with the consequences of purging the rich people.
I wonder how he would feel if we then redefined the concept of corporate ownership. "You know those billions in shares you used to own?"
If we ignore what they are calling "AI" then the consequences will be beneficial to all. So, yes, we'll live with those consequences.
Why the double quotes?
Because LLMs and similar generative “AI” tools aren't intelligent.
Nor, arguably, are they artificial, since the models are grown rather than built.
Thanks.
What is intelligence? Also, I think artificial refers to the fact that they don't have life.
Because signal matching and manipulation is not intelligence unless you're willing to admit that is all you are capable of.
AI tools don't actively manipulate people. They're just confident about their answers as they should be.
I meant signal manipulation, but sure, that includes manipulating humans since we are just another signal input. That isn't a statement on values, just an objective description of how it works.
I still don't understand how it cannot be as intelligent as us.
That "intelligence" will tell you how it is not as intelligent if you ask directly. This is not because it's intelligent and KNOWS it's limitations but because it picked up on my signal for what I wanted and gave something resembling that to me. You could ask it the opposite thing and arrive at a very different conclusion. https://claude.ai/share/97859aae-beb2-4245-a8b1-460122ee4aa1
I would even say the analogies it gave aren't entirely accurate. A person reading a book experiences it very differently than an LLM. And this is a key insight to an element of the Turing test where you ask it to explain some poetry (not simply write a poem).
While I agree that it doesn't have a physical experience, I don't think a physical experience is necessary to speak to someone.
I meant LLMs and people experience reading a book differently in the internal sense. Or at least for some people.
Of course! We hallucinate being in the character's place. The LLM can't experience that because it has no emotions.
In any case, unless you're talking about emotional intelligence, I don't think that's necessary to be intelligent.
You can lower the bar for what you consider intelligent, but that doesn't make the LLM any more capable.
And no, I am not talking about emotions in regards to reading a book. Do you simply experience a book as a set of words and emotions attached to those words? I think you are selling yourself short in order to put LLMs on a pedestal.
I also hallucinate the scenes apart from that but AI is capable of that too!
I guess it's like describing color to a blind man. I am telling you that others experience books in a much deeper and profound way but you are unable to relate and unable see the point that is being made. So you as a person blind to this will either have to trust other people have vision you lack or insist we are all blind.
Sure, I guess?
I think they meant signal matching and signal manipulation
If we crowd source a rocket i am told they don't ask questions when we offer them a seat. Oh wait, that was just another lie. I guess a guillotine would be more cost effective than a rocket...
I guess a guillotine would be more cost effective than a rocket...

Make the Guillotine Great Again!
This sounds like a threat...
It definitely is a threat. Considering they are already planning on replacing entry level positions with AI they are directly attacking this new generation's livelihood.
So the fact that they get a little pushback for trying to end the cycle of employment is kind of a joke. This new generation should literally be at their throats if they knew what was good for them.
These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact," he added, referring to AI.
Yes. And a direct one at that.
Blow his brains out
"If you don't enjoy being high you'll regret it the rest of you life" (some drug dealer)
He's on two somethings.
"I've always been extraordinarily optimistic about the next generation," he told the hosts. AI, he said, doesn't change that. "My goal would be to share my experiences, and that's what I'm looking to do."
I had some money left over this month, so when I noticed my old phone seems to be bulging slightly, I decided I could splurge a little and spend just under 300€ for a decent second-hand one.
But I'm sure his experiences will apply to my situation.
this is the guy who is so bad at his job he tanked google and failed up
When he came in, Google was already out of new ideas.
anyone else get this vibe?
"[Artificial] life, uh, finds a way"
Dude, yes, that's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the picture!
This, btw, is one of the best uses of generative AI I've seen to date. 😆 Well played.
I honestly wasn't trying, I told it to stitch up two pictures. I expected a side by side, not a merger. But it looked really fucking cool
Totally awesome result lol
The world when it's my time to be an adult
Fuck him.
consequences such as parasites such as him maybe making less money. oh the horror
Stanford, you know what to do this MFer. Prepare your boo army.
Right back at ya
the only consequence of a world without ai is a smooth running industrial powerhouse that increases the value of its people and marketshares. continued use of ai reduces marketshare as well as production output while also shrinking the customer base
Yeah, it'll be like the impact on the ocean of someone taking their toe out of the water.
The next big thing won't come from Google. It's just doing portfolio management, sustaining and milking me-too products like their web apps and Google Cloud while enshittifying them, and hoping they'll get lucky with one of their many incubator projects. Odds are, they won't. They lack the agility and aren't hungry anymore.
I think both sides are correct. AI will be still around a decade and centuries from now, and AI poses great risks. The real question is, "Who controls it?"
Hopefully the students do not try to destroy the loom, but instead try to make sure that they are so common and easy to use, that corporations do not have genuine control over the usage of AI. Every minority should have a digital lawyer that has 95% of the ability of Disney's, to protect people from Kavenaugh Stops. Every poor person should be able to manage their finances just as well as the most blueblooded billionaire. Every household should own a home server and a robot, leasing their usage to corporations. Those corporations shouldn't own the AI nor robots.
What I am saying, is that we should structure society to ensure that the worst people are not our masters forevermore. Their goal is to control the means of production, and to remove our lives from the process. Both figuratively AND literally.
No, we do not need to "structure society" around proliferating LLM chatbot girlfriends and robot butlers in order to have socialism. Fuck off with this "people's techbro" horseshit.
Your position is bad, because it ensures the worst outcome. AI is just one form of power, that evil people will gladly make use of. Either we make it so that society in general understand and is able to control it, or simply allow a group of evil people to obtain sole mastery over the technology.
Say for example if conservatives were the only people with guns, while minorities of all kinds refused to have weapons. Who do you think will end up being bullied, enslaved, and slaughtered? AI is that question, but for economics.
The reason why I push for every household to have a home server and robot, is to prevent an accumulation of power. If governments and corporations had to receive industrial power from citizens, that makes them much more beholdened to democracy and following the will of the people.
I agree with your first statement. The conundrum of who controls it is more important than anything else at this point.
I find your comment about students destroying the loom misplaced and misinformed. I am guessing you are referring to the myth of the luddites. Of course the reality is they were never against the machines, but they were against being displaced by machines without compensation. Below are their demands.
"The establishment of a minimum wage to ensure workers could sustain their families despite changing production method.
The provision of work or compensation for skilled artisans and craftsmen who had been displaced by automated machinery.
The regulation and limitation of child and women’s labor in early industrial factories.
The legal right to form trade unions, which were outlawed at the time, to collectively bargain and advocate for improved working conditions.
Opposition to deceitfully manufactured, inferior goods that were being mass-produced on automated"
I like your optimism about LLM doctors and lawyers. Unfortunately with an error rate that can sometimes approach 60% along with hallucinations LLM AI is far from ready and would cause far more problems than it would solve.
You are absolutely correct that corporations shouldn't own AI. If AI is to ever be useful and not purely a propaganda/advertising machine then corporations should not be in control of the models.
I appreciate your lofty goal of eliminating the worst people from being our masters. Unfortunately, the worst people already are in control of AI and it will likely end up just the opposite of your wishes. A tool to keep the worst people as masters.
I am aware that the wealthy already have control of AI, but that grasp isn't firm yet. That is why it is important for people to start thinking about policy and implementation now, rather than letting the elite to shape the narrative.
As to optimism, AI is an technology, and it is improving quickly. Eventually, local AI will be able to fit into our phones, and be superior in quality and speed to what I have on my PC*. We should try to initiate an endeavor to make AI available to everyone. For example, Switzerland is working on Apertus, a sovereign AI model for themselves. The development of libre AI is extremely important for sustaining democracy, because it will become a fundamental tool for any modern society.
*A 5950x CPU, 128gb DDR4, 4090, and 3060. I can run 120b models on this aged but fairly powerful machine. Two years ago, on the same PC specs, 70b AI at best, with much inferior quality and speed. It used to take an hour to get output that I receive in minutes now.
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All these comment Andy's posting words and expressing thoughts when it can all be summed up with a 'boo!'
It'd be nice if some of them shaped Pichai's future.
Indian Jeff Goldblum
Ai ... Ai always finds a way..
And live with its benefits, because most of those booing use it in some way.