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YouTube Premium just got more expensive again: now $16 a month, or $27 for families

10d 15h ago by lemmy.today/u/sanitation in technology from www.techspot.com

Good. Enshittify some more so more people will be driven towards adblocking frontends such as NewPipe and FreeTube. Eat big tech's bandwidth, but starve them of any revenue.

Personally I prefer SmartTube

That's what I use, but I thought it only worked on android TVs

On phone, I use revanced

Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that

There's a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/

You could be right. I indeed use SmartTube on my TV. It's my primary device for watching YouTube videos.

Grayjay too.

I'm loving noutube

Youtube already makes more money than Disney, right? So of course they ramp up prices. It‘s a successful product after all and the line must go up. The more money it makes the more expensive it‘ll get.

That‘s why you should never give them anything in the first place and use an Adblocker instead.

I would also recommend Sponsorblock because most Youtube sponsorships are overpriced garbage or complete scams. It honestly seems too good to be true but it‘s open source and apparently can cover operational costs on just donations. What I really like about Sponsorblock is how you can curate your experience to a T. It lets you skip all sort of content that you may not like such as self-promotions, credits, previews/flashbacks, intros, and more. It comes really close to the internet highways concept I have long only dreamed about where you‘re served exactly what you want and you don‘t need a silly AI agent to do any of it.

DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.

Youtube „Premium“ could never give you this experience for all the money in the world.

DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.

I generally use YouTube without logging in on the PC and clean history every now and then. No matter which videos I watch first, the feed gets populated with such amount of garbage, that it kinda surprises me. Softcore porn, cop and gun shit, shitty political stuff, it's flabbergasting.

That's unfortunately what the algorithm gives when it doesn't know very much about you: bottom of the barrel slop. I'm the opposite and stay logged in, but I'm also diligent about removing items from my watchlist if I didn't like them, or if I see they're skewing the algorithm.

Same. I've got a decade of watch history at this point, the algorithm is pretty good at showing me videos that are actually relevant to my interests. Every once in a while I'll click on something outside my norm and the algorithm will shake things up, but if it's not something I'm interested in then I just hide the first couple videos and it'll readjust again.

No

Gonna catch a lot of "get with the times" but an ad blocker and watching YouTube in browser on my phone - I've never seen the value of needing Premium to do adblocking or a whole ass app like Vanced. Maybe sponsorblock for more but like overall, my impression has always been YouTube Premium is a joke of a service that can never offer anything more than adblocking/sponsor block already just does from a browser on my phone.

This is why they're trying to lock down everything. Nerfing ad blockers in chrome, semi-banning all unapproved apps in Android.

And don't get me started on smart TVs. They were broken right out of the gate.

In addition to removing ads in YouTube, it also gives ad-free YouTube Music (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio). But honestly, the biggest problem is the app itself shoving shorts down your throat and lacking a bunch of features that third-party clients have. And even if you pay to remove ads from YouTube, you can't pay to remove ads from the videos themselves. You can only do that with sponsorblock, which YouTube could totally just adopt if they wanted but as is, you have to use third part apps anyway.

I've only had that problem with YouTube Music if I'm trying to listen from inside YouTube itself (via clicking Music in YouTube's sidebar). Both the actual Music app and webpage both seem to play the audio-only versions, not the music video versions. I've got plenty of songs that if I try listening through YouTube will have the video version (often with end title cards and whatnot).

(which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio).

I disabled them in settings a couple of years ago and have not had issues since.

That switch does not work. It turns off the videos but still plays the video versions, which is even worse. I'm not sure it even knows the difference.

I ended my Premium subscription about six months ago and instead got a VPN set to Albania. Ads? Gone. I live fucking with the google's data harvesting operations

You can also install ReVanced on Android

Or grayjay.app or Firefox with ublock origin or lots of ways that don't involve giving Google money

Copying my other comment from this thread:

Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that

There's a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/

On my mom's apple TV?

The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.

They exist; people just don’t take the time to figure it out and give an answer.

As much as I disagree with their practices, Brave browser on iOS will block YT ads.

On iOS you can get uBlock Origin Lite for Safari and it works very well. You can also download the Orion browser which lets you get Firefox and Chrome extensions and can get uBO or whatever else that way too.

The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.

We saw Apple's closed ecosystem as the trap that it is, and avoided it. Can't really help you if you're still inside the cage.

You're also missing out on a bunch of other cool shit, honestly.

But I get it, it is convenient. I'm not mad. I just also can't help you fly free until you leave the cage.

“Flee the cage” to another company that’s going to limit what I can and can’t load AND is selling my data at every possible moment?

Who’s the one deluding themselves now?

I didn't recommend Google and I don't sit in their cage either.

We early adopters are so far further away than you imagine.

Here's the starter kit, if you're ready:

Edit: lol. fuck it, you sound angry, and anger might be what you need to go all the way. Added link to GrapheneOs.

So what company do you recommend?

I recommend freedom.

Like Christmas in Whoville, freedom doesn't come wrapped in a company.

Freedom comes from standing in the cold naked air on open source software with no cloud services except what you can wrangle from the earth with your own two hands.

Edit: All this discussion has me worked up. I'm going to go use hand tools to carve a canue.

So no real answer.

There is no corporate answer.

Edit: Hyperbole aside, here's some real answers that much of the early adopter freedom loving community find good enough:

You can actually buy your next laptop from Tuxedo or Framework, to get a laptop that just works with Linux pre-installed.

For phones, it sounds like you're aware that there are no compromise-free answers today.

But you can put LineageOS on almost anything (check the wiki, first) in about 5 minutes, and it will actually be your phone, unshackled from Google, Apple or Microsoft.

Then you can re-shackle it to either Google or Microsoft on your own terms with a library called microg, which gives you just enough right answers to their crapware APIs to make your phone look shackled, without actually being shackled.

Edit 2:

Back to your original point - I don't have any halfway solutions for Apple, for you.

I think some exist, but they're much lower quality, because there's a mich smaller community around them.

Apple has been fighting to keep people locked in for much longer than either Google or Microsoft have.

So your freedom-loving ally community still on Apple is smaller.

Unwatched works on ios, not sure about tv

I don't know about Apple TV. But for Android TV you can install SmartTube

I just installed ReVanced and it's full of ads. How do I stop that?

Try morphe, it's the current modern version of revanced.

There is a chance that its a knock off pretending to be revanced

Where did you download it?

Newpipe is free. You can donate to support if you'd like. No account required, so no tracking. Subs and history are stored locally. And with an internet condom (VPN) no IP exposure.

PipePipe = NewPipe + SponsorBlock.

How are they not getting blocked?

I've thought of mass scraping youtube for music, but it's not worth ths risk of being banned by Google for life.

Newpipe (and all the other ad blockers) are playing cat and mouse with them. They make some changes which screw up blockers, blockers patch and return to service pretty quickly. I couple months ago they went so far as to force javascript proof of work, I was able to setup yt-dlp with the javascript engine in like 5 minutes and keep going.

They target different things, sometimes the try to block high quality streams, sometimes it's not logged in streams, sometimes it's streams from certain ips. They keep moving the cheese, deleting this rss feed or that stream type. At some point, they'll implement actual encryption like widevine and make it actually difficult to get at the streams, at which point, we'll just screen record, commercial skip and the best of the best will end up in torrents.

Their music quality is general marginal. Research soulseek.

Can't use soulseek fairly without opening a port; I'm exclusively on mobile internet with a VPN without port forwarding... I might pay for home wifi for one month out of the year to fill my drive...

afaik you can't screen record DRM content, it's encrypted all the way to the TV or monitor. The OS never sees a decrypted stream. This is why if you try to screenshot Netflix the window just appears as a black frame.

Yeah, but you can but a $10 HDMI splitter from china with a HDCP key on it and hook a video capture to the other end.

I'm sure in the future they'll have a firmware update system for rotating their keys if they've been leaked. And if you try to keep your TV offline to prevent the key rotation, they'll still rotate the encryption key for the stream (maybe wait a year for most people to receive the firmware update), and your offline TV won't be able to decode the stream anymore

They've been leaked for 15 years now.

Yes but I'm saying the tech could get more advanced and locked down, like all DRM tech has been progressing

shrugs If I can see it, I can capture it. The panel drivers turns it back into pixels before it gets to my eyes. There are many levels of difficulty, but nothing they're about to do can stop me with technology.

Difficulty can make a big difference. If uploaders have to start making bootleg recordings using camcorders, cleaning up recording artifacts and lighting/reflections from the recording environment and fixing lens distortion etc, all to end up with a mediocre bootleg recording...then I can guarantee you piracy will become extremely rare.

Popular movies might get the attention and work needed. But good luck for random Youtube videos.

Youtube what? Ohhh, that annoying popup I always decline. Apparently the price only matters if you buy it.

... people pay for youtube?

... you know you can just block the ads, right?

... and you don't need a propietary app to get youtube on a tv?

Problem for me is that YouTube is my main source of video entertainment. I like being a part of the reason creators can get paid.

Sure I hate giving google money, but if everyone does adblock and no one donates to creators, then there will be no quality content.

Many creators i watch probably has a patreon or similar, but I watch so many different ones that yeah, yt premium is the easiest way for me to support while being ad free.

YouTube is also my main source of video entertainment.

I am very poor, but if I wanted to help fund Youtubers, I would just donate to their patreons or ko-fis or directly purchase a channel membership to them specifically.

You being lazy about how you support creatives you like is a choice, a choice that indicates your laziness is more valuable to you than you not giving Google money, so please don't lie to me when you say you hate giving Google money, you obviously don't.

Donating to what is ostensibly dozens of creators patrons would be not only a great deal of money but also kind of untenable to manage. If an adequate amount of YouTube subscription money goes to creators then there’s nothing really wrong with that. I wouldn’t say it’s lazy at all.

No, it wouldn't, just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.

This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.

If an adequate amount of money goes to doing the math to divide what would be donations equally, after Google's cut of course... then you are being lazy, and are fine with giving Google money.

Would you give to a charity that had the same 'admin overhead' to 'actual money put to use' ratio as Google takes in their cut?

just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.

Oh yes just reach out and ask your dozens of subscriptions to modify their subscription tiers just for you, I’m sure you’ll easily be able to reach them as one of their thousands/hundreds of thousands/millions of subscribers.

This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.

lol. lmao even.

Would you give to a charity that had the same 'admin overhead'

YouTubers are not a charity. They’re businesses using the YouTube platform for the convenience it provides them despite the overhead. I’m fully justified in utilizing the same platform to support them financially for the same reason.

Ok so you're fine with paying money to Google.

Got it, you willingly fund an immoral corporation that's on many different boycott lists of many different organizations, for many different reasons.

Sure, ok then.

I on the other hand value my moral nonhypocrisy more than you do.

Guess we just have different preferences.

No I just think you’re just an insufferable dork with a frankly privileged amount of free time on their hands to fuck about with what amounts to little more than internet virtue signaling.

I find no value in your hollow moral grandstanding at all and I don’t think anyone else here does either.

I think it’d be better for your health to value touching grass over this nonsense you’re talking about.

Who in their right mind actually pays for YouTube?

Majority of people that are not nerds

Or watch it from the TV app

Also also, creators get paid more per click from premium users.

This. Also, I pay $5 for a family plan in my country.

You don't have to be a nerd to run an APK file.Even my Baby Boomer mother can do it.

I do. But I do it mainly to support the creators I follow. I'm not going to sign up for a bunch of patreon or channel subscriptions, but at least they can get their share of the subscription money.

  1. I have kids and having them subjected to ads is a burden on them AND on me. I don't get begged for the latest toys, or have to watch the latest ad for whatever cream will solve my latest rash...
  2. I don't mind supporting channels that I watch. I also pay for PBS as I want to support that type of programming.
  3. I spend enough time supporting all the IT needs and maintaining my existing household's IT infrastructure for players for all of the content that I download for my spouse and kids that isn't available on YT or PBS.

Adnauseam/ublock/smarttube are your friends

It was at one point a perfectly good deal. Google Play Music was an awesome app and it came with ad-free YouTube for free. The family plan lets you share with 5 family members and was a great deal. Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.

Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.

Count me out. I'm building a music library of my own with the help of my local library, thrift stores, and the internet. And, shit, I just got a record player, too.

Oh I have my own selfhosted music library as well. But that doesn’t really solve the problem of music discoverability. Back in the day we had radio and MTV. These days streaming services are still a must on some level unless you’re content to just listen to the music you already have forever.

I use listen brainz for music discovery. Every week it generates a jams playlist(similar to things i am known to like) and an exploration playlist(a bit more out there in terms of music taste). I then download those via the API and convert them to a CSV which gets put into SLSK download and all the music shows up in my music player automatically and I delete the songs if I dont like em. I was able to import my spotify listening history into it so I have a few 100k listens and its got a good idea of what I like.

Either my kids ask for something new, or i hit billboard charts once in a while and true up my collection.

I like to use the time filter and can listen in 5 languages; “oldies” in various genres, times, and places, isn't that hard to research--plenty of free internet radio out there.

Sorry to the new bands out there.

Edit: Also I find the mindset of finding the exact best music is kind of unhealthy. Building a tolerance for meh actually helps me discover things that don't immediately and instantly appeal to me, and I think that leads to more musical variety in the long run than the skip-happy attitude streaming encourages.

I do it for the YouTube music app. I live on Brazil and here costs something like 10us for the family tier so it's not a big deal for me.

At that price, i'd do it.

I do via India Apple Account. Only pay 4 bucks for a family account including Youtube Music.

I've been having a few problems with playback on ReVanced recently; it tends to buffer for a minute and the quality seems to be stuck on 480p. Any workarounds mentioned didn't work for long.

Desktop with uBlock has been fine though.

Revanced is dying because OSumAtrix, the lead dev, is so toxic every other developer decided to hard fork revanced and make Morphe.

What's really sad is Osum is copying code religiously from Morphe, including typos. They also forget to change function names or comments to go from Morphe to Revanced. As a result, Morphe DMCA'd him for not complying with the attribution clause of their GPL license.

It's a whole mess but basically it's one guy trying to replace dozens of contributors by copying code. He's never going to sustain it like this, so just use Morphe honestly...

It's updated daily (sometimes multiple times a day) and it seems like they can't stop adding new QoL features to the patcher. Their patches work great, I highly recommend it.

Oh ok, thanks for that info. Already installed Morphe, let's see how it is...

Is there any reason to use ReVanced when you can browse YouTube on Android's Firefox with uBlock Origin installed? It seems to work about the same but you can also run other extensions like DeArrow and Sponsor Block. It can even stream at 4k for some videos.

Revanced does have a version of sponsorblock btw.

Settings > Miscellaneous > Spoof video streams > Default client > VisionOS

Also make sure to clear app cache from time to time

Tried that, worked for a day or so and then it went back to buffering.

I had this issue, it was super annoying. I uninstalled and reinstalled with the latest update and everything worked great again and has been doing so for well over a year. I went down that rabbit hole of trying to update the spoofing settings per fuckyouspez threads and none of those recommendations ever worked for me. Hope this helps!

Try morphe. It works perfect for me

You could try grayjay. Worked better for me than revanced but still had the occasional video not loading

Grayjay is great, I'm using it all the time on desktop. It couldn't replace YouTube on mobile for me though, I need MicroG integration

Does it? I installed through fdroid by adding FUTO repositories. As the other comment said, you then change the defaults

I wasn't talking about opening links.

MicroG enables me to sign into YouTube using my Google account, as far as I know Grayjay doesn't support this.

Oh, I sign into google for the age verification in grayjay. I'm not sure if that requires MicroG though.

Keep in mind the sign in for grayjay is only for age verification. It never pulled my subscribed channels or playlists into the app from the youtubr account. As far as I see, it only shows me recently watched videos and channels subbed through grayjay itself.

I am using a non rooted one plus and I was able to set GJ as the default YouTube. I just had to change which links it could open by default. What are you using? This is where I had to make the change.

If you actually want to support artists, don’t. YouTube Music’s royalty payout is far from stable and transparent, not to mention low to others which is already hard to beat really. Tidal comes closest (from what I found to having functionality and paying artists a more fair rate. Qobuz is there too, Deezer pioneers detecting AI garbage that people think makes them artists now. Spotify got most features ofc but they’re unethical as shit

Laughs in ad block

The more they charge, the fewer will pay.

I only ever get it when they send me an offer for 3 months for like $10 or something. Otherwise, fuck off Google, I'll watch the shitty ads.

I prefer ublock origin

Switch to AdNauseam, a fork of uBO that garbles advertisers' click data by invisibly clicking every ad before blocking (including blocking the resulting load so it doesn't take any further data toll). Don't just avoid; retaliate!

Fuck yeah. I have adnauseam on all my machines. Fuck the advertisers

It's $3/month more than Spotify, and you get both music and videos. That doesn't seem that bad to me? Tidal is probably a better deal though, since it's cheaper and all plans come with lossless (FLAC).

I've been using a Plex server with my own ripped CDs for a while. Jellyfin is good too. If you listen to the same music a lot of the time, why pay a monthly fee when you can just buy the album once, rip it to your server, and listen to it forever?

I'm with you. I save copies of all my music files externally.

For those who still want to stream though, use Metrolist. Works exactly the same as Spotify and is a FOSS/No Ads product. I made a YT video about it recently.

Hmm this is a bit of a silly question but does Metrolist require to have a YouTube Music Subscription?

I'm quite surprised the github page doesn't mention that. It just says you have to be in a region where YT music is available.

Nope. No sub required.

Thanks for the quick response!

Also is it possible to export your playlists in any way?

One of the ways Spotify keeps me "captive" is by making it difficult to export playlists so it makes migrating difficult.

So I would be tempted to move to another streaming platform but I would prefer to stay in control of my playlists.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, metrolist looks really neat.

Also is it possible to export your playlists in any way?

Apologies, but that one I don't know.

I know you can sign in with your youtube account. You might be able to port them to youtube music and then see them in metrolist if that makes sense.

Now that I think about it, if the playlist are indeed stored on Google's servers, I could probably also use google takeout to require my personnal data. It's what pipepipe/newpipe uses to dump subscriptions from YT.

Cheaper than spotify when you consider you get both YT Music and YT at the same time. So when you are watching YT you are not wasting money on music and when you are listening to music you ain't wasting YT money.

Here in Latvia I pay 19.99€ (24$) for family plan, wouldn't be a problem if they raised by couple euros. I'm getting price rises everywhere right now because of dram shortage. My hetzner vps got bumped up by 2€ because of dram

I pretty much only use it for music, and most of the extensions have still gotten me by. At least long enough to rip the song to my hard drive for offline use. Fuck $16 a month. That's ridiculous. For $16 I could get an album or two every month and not have to worry about some buffering bullshit. After a year, not only would I be supporting the artists directly and avoiding paying paying a scummy company, I'd actually have some discographies built up to permanently show for it. They're just inadvertently trying to support people sailing the high seas. So irritating..

For $16 I could get an album or two every month and not have to worry about some buffering bullshit

So why don't you do that... ?

I actually did just buy a lot of albums in the last 48 hours, once I realized that I could bc my tax return lol. Before that I was pretty broke and wishing I could actually buy some. A light bulb finally went off and I was like oh yeah, I got some money now :p I do like to test drive a lot to see if I really vibe with it also. if it's something that actually touches me, I usually wind up wanting to have a higher quality version stored locally.

You can also set up a Jellyfin or Plex server and have your own streaming service :)

I'd like to have some home network type of deal set up, I've been meaning to look into that. Self-hosting comm more. I don't really have Internet right now though, aside from my cell phone, so I'm not sure if that would put a damper on things.

How would someone, hypothetical, do that ripping part?

Kind of janky but maybe something like this? https://soundclouddl.cc/or something like this perhaps https://github.com/archisvaze/arcdlpif you just use a search engine to look up YouTube to MP3 or something to that nature you can find a lot of different results. I think they even make browser extensions as well.

Even easier is https://monochrome.tf/

I'll have to check this one out later, thanks for a recommendation!

I buy the discs from my disc shop then use soulseek to download the discs already ripped.

Other times I simply buy their discs from bandcamp so I get the digital files directly.

Not YouTube, Soulseek. Nicotine frontend. Use a VPN.

For Soulseek you should use a VPN that support port forwarding. AirVPN is the one that's usually recommended.

The library is still free, and probably has access to a lot of streaming. If your local one doesn’t, a lot of large libraries will let you sign up for a card even if you don’t live nearby if you just show up in person to sign up. Although some don’t even require that anymore due to COVID precautions.

I live 2 blocks from my local library and I absolutely love it. I take my 2 year old daughter every week. She’ll play in the activity room, we’ll go to a story time and check out 6-7 books for the week. I’ll peruse the video game section, check out a movie if they have something on my to watch list. I haven’t gotten to use their maker space yet but I’m itching to. They also offer streaming, ebooks and audiobooks through Libby and Hoopla. 11/10 would recommend the library.

Don't forget Kanopy for even more streaming options with your library card!

Kanopy is such a gem, so much good stuff.

I love the libraries in my area because they're well-funded and pretty much always accept requests for new content (books, movies, etc). If there's a new book and they don't have it, I can ask them to order it and it'll usually be available within a week.

For whatever reason my local library only stocks books. I tried donating some movies and they said they don't take them. Weird.

amazon wanted a subscription for more video skips. mute still free

Neotube for music and revanced for videos are atill working the same.

Revanced works for Google Music too.

Morphe

I genuinely think Morphe has been the worst user experience I have ever had.

I'm probably just unlucky or didn't set something properly but I would say it's very very frequent that the playback moves to random parts of the video. Like anytime anyway, the player will suddenly rewind to 10/20/30 mn before in the playback. It has been extremely infuriating. Even up to date and everything, it still does that constantly and has been for months. To the point I select videos in Morphe and then open them in pipepipe or Newpipe to properly watch them.

Again, I'm probably doing something wrong but I truly developed a pretty deep hate for Morphe.

I will again switch back to ReVanved and see if that works better but for me Morphe is extremely unreliable.

I'm still waiting for morphe to support other apps like instagram and tiktok (which I use for social obligations) before i move from revanced

And it'll increase further in the near future... Only for background play and Advert removal, 16/month is absurd considering they don't have any content licensing headache and as such unlike Netflix, Disney + etc. Also, in case of YT Music, royalties paid out to artists are pretty opaque and pretty turbulent. Better to buy albums directly to support them. Brave FTW otherwise for YouTube

Is there an option for iOS?

Unwatched

thank you!!

Firefox focus browser. Single tab browser but blocks ads. Works for YouTube.

The Pirate Bay will always be with us.

I just updated my smart tube app cause they broke the stable version. Beta is working just fine though

Mines got no issues I'm watching it now.

My stable install is many updates behind. So much so that I couldn't update in app. It still wasn't a problem with kutt.to/stn_beta though.

You may have been on the version that was possibly exploited he stopped updates to that one and advised people to manually install the fixed one.

I think he was being paranoid though, he did it because his PC was hacked and there's no evidence anything was actually compromised on Smarttube.

Might could. I'm not up on the happenings. I just turned it on last night to watch cartoon hell and it just kept refreshing the video and never starting.

But once I installed the beta it's been working like a dream. Maybe I should delete the stable version and try again, but it's working now and I'm incredibly lazy.

Also didn't know it was one person's project. You know if they got a "buy me a coffee" thing or anything set up?

Not sure I know the guy is Ukrainian and it's impressive he gets so many updates out considering. But yeah I only know of the scare mainly because of reddit making a huge deal about it and claiming the sky was falling etc.

But yeah I think the github is about the only way to contact him really.

Thanks homie.

How big could the family be?

It's five additional accounts. Doesn't matter their actual relation or location.

Yes it does, if they're not in the same geographical location, they kick the member off.

Not for my account, never had an issue and users are located quite far apart.

Unfortunately my mom all my friends got kicked off for not being in the same household.

I think it depends on the country. I'm in Canada.

Sweden

Makes sense, capitalists be like "you swedes get to much anyways"

Hahaha, probably, but this isn't the socialist utopia it's made out to be, the government sold out government systems to private equity long ago.

My family is bigger than that. Guess I will stick with piracy as it's easier.

I will never pay for youtube.

Anything people on iOS can do? Other than switch to a google phone

Safari with WBlock extension, and SponsorBlock

Orion browser works too, I think it has Ublock Origin support

i had altstore with a modified youtube ios that had adblock and sponserblock. It was annoying to keep alive since altstore required a refresh every 7 days with a PC.

Currently I am using youtube on iOS safari with adblock extensions on safari and that does the trick for me.

Pro tip: if you want PiP on safari ios for youtube. You have to go fullscreen then swipe for Home Screen. That will also enable background play for safari iOS youtube. Otherwise YouTube script will pause the video.

Unwatched

I use Brave browser which blocks yt ads. Demus app also works too and plays vids in background

Still cost me the same amount it always has.

Any tips for iOS for my wife to not get ads? She uses YouTube occasionally to play old kids shows and the ads are really not good for a kid to see.

If she uses Safari, there are some good plugins. Not all are free. StopTheMadness Pro is not cheap but is a solution for many annoyances, not just YT. UnTrap for YouTube allows you to hide many elements like shorts. And SponsorBlock automatically skips sponsored segments. If she uses the YouTube app, delete it and set up a shortcut on the home screen to open the web version instead.

Firefox focus browser

DuckDuckGo’s web browser blocks YouTube ads for me on iOS

With Signulous you can side load uYouEnhanced. This blocks ads, includes SponsorBlock, and a number of other nice add-ons. Signulous costs $20 a year though, and you have to install a sketchy certificate to side load, and there's always a chance Apple breaks Signulous (happened a few times before but there's always been fixes). You can manually side load uYouEnhanced without Signulous, but it requires some research & weekly upkeep.

YouTube Premium is like 2 usd a month via India, or 4 bucks for a family account.

Just create an Indian Apple Account (find an Indian address via Google Maps, phone number can be from any country so can just use your actual phone number) buy Rupees for the AppStore via https://www.amazon.in/apay/detail/apple-store-codes

Log out of “Media and Purchases” in the iOS settings under your account. Login “Media and Purchases” with the Indian account, redeem your Apple Rupees in the App Store, go to YouTube app and subscribe. In the subscriptions section of the iOS settings you can upgrade or downgrade the subscription if necessary.

LibreWolf browser (Firefox fork) also blocks YT ads pretty well. I use it at work to listen to music when focusing on programming.

The only time I ever subscribed was when I could pay in Argentina. Came out to like $3.50 per month. Once they patched that loophole, they stopped getting my money.

Yeah, they're worth maybe $5 a month or family. It's just a bunch of B-F rate videos and they pay anyone that's not in the B tier so little than you need to support them on patreon anyway.

This is (currently) only for US people

We get it for $6.5 lol cuz we from poor region

This is still in the phase where its a really good deal. The reason i'll never buy it is because I know it will not always be that way.

Certain Verizon plans come with a discount on YouTube premium individual plans

Still the best 16$ you can spend on video. My only issue is that this also correlates with increased ads which are clear net negative on our society.

Brave's native adblock has always worked really well for me. No add-ons required.

And they seem to spend a huge amount on advertising too. More than anyone else I've seen

You guys still on yt ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Why the laughing emojis? There's nothing else out there that even comes close to the video catalogue of Youtube

I'm eyeing peertube, but the problem there is lack of monetization option. Which is a problem with all alternatives in a way or another.

There is chinese billibilly but yeah those platforms don't really come to us

I suppose you also use reddit all the time?

Time to change, https://fmhy.net/

I suppose you also use reddit all the time?

Yep because again, there's not enough content here

Time to change, https://fmhy.net/

If I want to watch movies I have ABC iview, SBS On Demand, and french channels like https://www.tv5mondeplus.com/en... on top of torrents of course

Youtube isn't just mainstream movies though, the brisbane channel isn't a movie or tv show, so it's not torrentable

Youtube and Google Maps are pretty much the only major big tech website left that I still use

I don't get it, this is again just mainstream tv channels

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Goddamn children.