me_irl
10d 7h ago by feddit.org/u/5ibelius9insterberg in me_irl from feddit.org
One thing that initially attracted me to my wife was that she never wore makeup. Still doesn't.
Yes and no. Many women do reinforce the stupid pressure as well as piggish men. There shouldn't be a need to spend anything above and beyond normal hygiene and self-care, IMO, and there are many products that do not suffer the "pink tax", etc, that improve someone's looks. So, it IS a touch self-imposed if you're constantly paying that "pink tax". (same goes for the absolute dumbasses that buy the DUDE wipes over normal freaking wet wipes)
For an extreme example in a similar vein, see JoJo Siwa reinforcing child star abuse (or how ever her shitass name is spelled). She went through the same shit, but because she came out on top, she denies it's bad. Same goes for a lot of "pretty" women.
Turns out many humans are morons in general and easily manipulated into paying more than they should or dealing with shit they shouldn't.
You said „yes and no“, but I can’t find the „no“ in your reply. What you describe, summarises what I wanted to point out with this meme. I also wanted to call out people who make fun of women who are not in a situation to go against this system. I think it’s ok though to mock people who profited from the system and are now saying „There’s nothing wrong!“
The "no" part is that it is generally possible to have excellent hygiene and makeup without paying for the crazy expensive brands and things. There are of course still quite a few products (like the DUDE wipes) that leverage the perspectives of fools to pocket some extra money. Although there are often plenty of cheaper options with similar quality, if not better.
It shouldn't require extra effort to find the quality that doesn't include such things as the "pink tax", but such is capitalism: If the price can rise, the price will rise. Probably in step with some advertising campaign to try and convince you this product is toootally worth the markup, promise!
To all women "not taking care of themselves": I still love you.
how bout we mock most men for putting in zero effort beyond covering their bodies and showering occasionally
Well… giving all the shit we give women also to men is also gender equality I guess
What further would you have us do?
I already washed my balls last week.
In seriousness though, I wash every day twice a day and wear clothes and shave my head and trim my beard. Deodorant too cause damn I stink
What else is there?
manscape eyebrows, shave/trim pubic hair, little mascara and guyliner, accessorize with some bracelets, necklace, and rings, maybe a watch if thats your thing, trim and file nails, exfoliate skin, wear clothes that fit well, outfits that feel cohesive, some people really like a pleasant but not overpowering cologne, maybe even get a few piercings
theres a ton of room for individuality in masculine presentation. it doesn't have to be crazy or difficult. pretend you're a craftsman and your appearance is your craft. it can be very simple and straightforward, but a few careful finishing touches go a long way to bringing the whole together.
But muh depression...
I thought women's hygiene products were more expensive because men and women's skin are different. Men have thicker skin on average and women have more sensitive skin on average or so I thought
Sadly not. It‘s they idea that woman are not loved, if they don’t buy the best cosmetics. The first time this (obviously made up) concept was successfully used in marketing was a hundred years ago:
[James] Young realized that improving sales wasn’t a simple matter of making potential customers aware that a remedy for perspiration existed. It was about convincing two-thirds of the target population that sweating was a serious embarrassment.
Young decided to present perspiration as a social faux pas that nobody would directly tell you was responsible for your unpopularity, but which they were happy to gossip behind your back about.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-advertisers-convinced-americans-they-smelled-bad-12552404/
The ads in this time were surely something else. And years later a similar method was used to advertise AXE/LYNX bodyspray
They're not the same, though. They tend to have a better smell, slightly different shape, have some extra materials in them, etc.
Women love paying for an experience, a smell, a shape. Men don't: our shirts are literally square.
Anyone complaining about the "pink tax": stop buying "women's product". ISSUE SOLVED. (you guys have agency, right? Use it).
What’s next?
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„Hey Black people, don’t want to be murdered by cops? Just don’t draw their attention!“
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„Hey Girls, don’t want to be raped? Just say stop! It’s literally that easy!“
What is going on with this meme in this comm. Just block each other ffs.
The gendered bullshit goes both ways. For example: men’s clothing is way more expensive than women’s for some reason.
I think it's because adding the pockets costs extra.
Seriously though, men's clothing is typically a lot more durable.
Sewing is one of my wife's hobbies, so I know it can't cost that much. Maybe they know we only buy shit that lasts because we hate shopping.
I‘m not sure about that:
In the UK, women and girls were being charged on average 37% more for toys, cosmetics, and clothes than their male counterparts.[12]
Women are paying more money than men for the same toiletries
TIL that the payment system knows your sex. If you don't want to buy the "pink tax", then stop buying the pink shit. It's not that hard. "ugh, men pay less" - then buy whatever men are buying. You're simply willing to pay more for a product catered to your gender. Then stop doing that.
Capitalists hate this one fix! 😜
There are some areas where this is possible. Razors for example: In my experience woman’s razors are absolutely shitty and more expensive then men’s razors.
But concerning other areas: There might be a chance, that a significant number of woman doesn’t want to smell like „Old Spice“ or „Irish Moss“ and most men’s clothing does not match with most women’s body’s. Also I think you underestimate how it could completely wreck a kids social life, if wears the „wrong“ clothing or plays with the „wrong“ toys.
getting shit for "not taking care of themselves"
Who is giving them that shit, though? WHO IS GIVING THEM THAT SHIT?
Mostly men. They get bombarded by ads made by men. Men decide who we see in the movies and how those actresses look. Men are waving torches and pitchforks when a woman in a game does not look like Barbie or Lara Croft ( see „The Last of us 2“ or „Horizon zero dawn“) The death threats to woman calling out shit like this are also sent by men.
Woman who support this „giving of shit“ show a very shitty attitude which is pretty common amongst the „What’s-wrong-with-today’s-kids-crowd“ across all genders: „Why should you have it better when I had to suffer? I (for whatever reason) couldn’t do anything about it, so you are weak and pathetic for not wanting to endure it too“
Also to support my „ad-bombardment“ point:
[James] Young realized [in the 1920’s ]that improving sales wasn’t a simple matter of making potential customers aware that a remedy for perspiration existed. It was about convincing two-thirds of the target population that sweating was a serious embarrassment.
Young decided to present perspiration as a social faux pas that nobody would directly tell you was responsible for your unpopularity, but which they were happy to gossip behind your back about.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-advertisers-convinced-americans-they-smelled-bad-12552404/
The ads in this time were surely something else. And years later a similar method was used to advertise AXE/LYNX bodyspray, so men are not immune to this stuff.