Rule, ha ha ha, rule!
9d 2h ago by lemmy.world/u/ZILtoid1991 in onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Reminder that Charlie Kirk was an extremist, who wanted to "remove" (read: genocide) people he didn't like.
I find it deeply hilarious that the mask has less of uncanny valley vibe, and in general less revolting than the real face
Truly the most kind interpretation of his likeness.
The face is more proportional to the head than with the real thing.
Let's hear what Charlie Kirk has to say about this:
"MY KILLER HAD THE RIGHT IDEA, CAN'T BLAME THEM GOOD BYE"
"3", apparently.
"My wife conspired with Israel to have me killed goodbye"
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This is unfair. It's been almost an entire year since Charlie Kirk has said anything racist.
Please. She clearly hated him as much as anyone. Probably more, since she had to spend more time with him.
As if she would be offended by someone re-enacting the day she was catapulted to national fame and never had to look at charlie kirk ever again.
It was okay to do with George Floyd though right? I don't remember hearing much condemnation on the right about that ...
Floyd was even more innocent because he was just minding his own business.
"even more innocent" doesn't even begin to cover the difference between a bigoted, sexist fascist turd and an average guy.
Its really wild to me when Kirk died just HOW MANY people seemed to come pouring out trying to lionize that fuckwit asshole.
You think your average guy is a convicted felon with meth and fent addiction?
wow, he had an addiction? that's crazy. surely having an addiction makes you evil, surely.
I doubt the average American has been convicted of a violent crime and has multiple drug addictions but somehow you think that’s a moral judgement and not simple fact.
If he was just a little more rapey, he coulda been president!
Or a pedophile!
You brought it up during a discussion of morality and are surprised people are interpreting that as you making a moral judgement? Are you being purposely obtuse or accidentally stupid? It's hard to tell online.
If facts are clashing with your morals that’s your problem not mine.
I simply disagree with labelling your average man as a violent drug addict.
Oh, you somehow picked both options. Got it.
when selecting any single person there are multiple things about them that are not average (plays violin/is gay/has 3 cats/…) yet we would still denote them as average people. So it very much does feel like the difference is a moral judgement
In this society, yes.
We estimate… people with felony convictions account for 8 % of all adults
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-017-0611-1
Best source I’ve found so far. Doesn’t sound like your average person is a felon.
What percentage of felons are drug addicts is another factor so even less of the population fit this twisted view of an average man.
The average man in America isn't black but there is nothing abnormal about a man being black.
True, though it seems to me that holding someone at gunpoint during a home invasion is abnormal behaviour and not the behaviour of an average man.
Having someone murder you by kneeling on your neck for nine minutes is something that is abnormal as well.
Literally yes
I would trust my Floyd with kids before I trusted Kirk.
Okay? I don’t see what that’s got to do with someone thinking an average American is both a violent criminal and drug addict.
Well the last violent crime he committed was in 2007 (aggrevated robbery) for which he got out at 2013 and seems like he managed to turn his life around by working two jobs but then probably succumbed to poverty after he lost them both in 2020 COVID pandemic. All these pretty understandable given that Lloyd had a pretty poor childhood, if you want to find the average in him. So a description of the type "violent criminal" looks more like a MAGA rhetoric at this point rather than a refined understanding of the situation.
Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, was coming from an extremely privileged background and had every reason to be a decent person but yet somehow managed to turn himself into a turd of collosal magnitude. So yeah "even more innocent" doesn't begin to explain the difference.
Average guy?
Have you not heard of the president and his friends?
Eh, the point still stands, that is the level of absolue shittyness we are talking about. If we account for the backgrounds these people come from it makes the gap even wider.
I've not made any comparison with Kirk.
Simply pointing out that your average man does not have a history as a violent criminal and drug addict.
yes and I have pointed out the conclusion still holds true
What don’t you get about my statement that the average man isn’t a drug addict with a conviction for violent crime?
There’s no ulterior motive to that statement of fact. It’s just a fact. Admitting it won’t hurt you.
Have you seen me opposing the statement that he has committed violent crimes in his past or that it isn't the average man behaviour? I have even given more context on the nature of the crime. "Yes but ..." exactly means even under this context the statement still holds true. If I thought that was not the case I would oppose your statement with facts rather than update mine. So I think it might be you who is not understanding the statement.
I don't think you have an ulterior motive but focusing on one superficial aspect of the statement and using reductive descriptions you are missing the depth of what you have gotten into. It feels like I am saying "Like Pluto, Neptune is quite far from Mars" and you are saying "Yes but Pluto isn't a planet and is also farther".
Violence against others is fine so long as you do it with words that encourage hate among others in the setting of being a college campus speaker though right? I am just asking questions here.
I’ve never condoned Kirk’s actions, and as an Aussie it was amusing that after he railed against Australian gun control that he was shot mid dog whistle on a question about gun violence.
But Kirk is irrelevant to the fact that your average man is law abiding and not an addict.
Your average man in which context? From a poor background and family with troubles? Then yea in that context mostly likely your average man. But reductive statements like this would not help a discussion of this type really.
I mean, in the broad sense,your average man breaks the law constantly while driving, at the very least.
Speeding is a bit different from holding someone at gunpoint during a home invasion.
Which is why speeding won’t get you a felony conviction…
Yet around the same amount of people get killed by both each year.
Well that depends on what country we're looking at but if you ever find yourself being held at gunpoint I doubt you'll find that equivalence very reassuring.
I dunno, at least with a gun pointed at you you cpukd maybe talk them down. A car is just going to be bam, dead.
I mean, have you heard the numbers "saved" by Trump from fentenol from his xenophobic bull shit? The "average guy" would haveto be a fent addict twice to make some of those even make sense.
No I avoid listening to demented dons ramblings as much as possible.
Oh what? So I guess comedy is just illegal now is that it? These dumbass republican snowflakes. Can’t take a fucking joke. Trying to cancel culture every damn thing.
These are the same people who did the Trayvon Martini and I can't breathe trends.
It always was them.
What a clown
Confringo!
A sicko did this!
Bis face is too big and His gums are too small
Yoinking that one!
Thanks for the nightmare
Violets are blue, roses are red
Charlie Kirk's face too small for he head
Plot twist. It's all cia theater!
...including the actual killing...
Pish posh. The CIA would N E V E R run assassinations and clandestine operations against US citizens on home soil!
And There was never a war in Ba Sing Se.
And guess what... If you dig a little, you find out human traffic in Romenia.
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This guy is a punk rocker 🥰
We love our sickos 💖
The size of the head looks about right, just need to shrink the face down to about half that size to make it more believable.
Don't forget the gums. Needs more gums.
If you can't handle this with a stiff upper lip then it's simply a skill issue. But seriously I would love to see Erika follow in her husband's footsteps, it'd be funny.
Please...
She wouldn't be caught dead near a school. Education is like a horror movie to her.
Now now let's be fair here, I never said that her willingness would be a factor.
What a rockstar, I love them already.
Lol, lmao even
play stupid games win stupid prizes. fuck kirk and his psycho ass grifter wife....and their brain rotted followers..
Facts don't care about her feelings
Would she actually care though?
Did it squirt blood out the neck?
kermit.sip
I'm willing to bet her performance was less convincing than his.
I have a Halloween costume idea where I wear the freedom shirt, have a big target on my head saying "how could you miss", and a red rolling party horn on the neck
and a red rolling party horn
A hwhat now?
Huh, I guess I never knew they had a name
Needs some fake blood splatter
two white to be charlie; charlie's more blue and red.
Sicko?
Ha ha ha…yes!
Why would a sicko denegrate himself like that?
I’ll be honest, I don’t like this.
If the tables are turned I wouldn’t like a right wing nut job doing this, I think it’s crass. At best it’s crass.
What do you mean "if"? This shit is nonstop on the right. Foh
Yeah I guess everyone already forgot about Paul Pelosi
nah, ding dong nazis can get fucked
they'd want to exterminate you, for fucks sake
They were celebrating your suicides a decade ago
I don’t care, I don’t give a fuck about these horrible people.
I’ll never out awful them, and they’ll never grow enough feelings to introspect.
I don’t want them doing this to others, even though I know they would and do.
That kind of is the actual Ubermensch mentality, I guess. I respect that morality but I also know what they'd do to you for the crime of just being a gentle person.
Doing this kind of baseless shit doesn’t bring me joy or anything. I don’t see the point. These people have no sense of decency or irony, and they’ll never see or acknowledge they’re wrong until they face real consequences.
Actual consequences for nazis racists and bigots I’m all in favour of.
The point would probably be everyone's probably cut out for actually living in a gentle and egalitarian world. We'd just bring our baggage into it and ruin it for everyone else. There probably was a time where I was but I got it beat out of me and now I just find dudes fortnite dancing at the dead Nazi's wife irreconcilably funny. But it's more because actual in this current zeitgeist they're so far beyond the reach of any actual consequences.
I can't reconcile that situation with my desire to live in a world where we don't fuck with people. And I don't really think holding back and showing them kindness prompts the various Kirks of the world to look at anyone differently. It never protected me anyway.
You should give a fuck. He mocks kids who are in demographics where they may kill themselves because of people like him. But he does it on stage. With sponsors.
The golden rule just doesn't work with fascists. The sooner people learn this, the sooner we'll be able to kill this ideology of hate.
I can want actual consequences and not want to stoop to their levels.
I have no desire to be a shithead like this.
Right, and they know this and take advantage of it. Forever.
How is doing this stopping them?
They’re just going to share this on their social media about how degenerate “liberals” are. They’ll never consider it to their own actions.
Who said anything about this stopping them
To be honest, I don't like Nazis.
I don't like it when people go to college campuses to tell women that they have no worth. To tell trans people they aren't real. To tell black people that they have no culture outside of violence. To worship guns in a place where gun violence pervades but has no purpose. Honestly, I don't like fucking Nazis or the people who support them because they are overflowing with empathy for bad people.
If the tables were turned... Huh, they wouldn't be. Because most people don't create entire careers around violent retoric, nor die by the object of their affection while excusing violence.
Truth: If I spent a career fucking around it would also find out.
I agree with everything you said, I just don’t think this or stooping to their level achieves anything.
We shouldn’t be giving these people a platform, we shouldn’t be letting them preach their moronic and false shit.
agreed.
it is more ironic with Kirk standing for gun stuff but... yea, its... its quite awful to... do this stuff infront of his widow...
being all binary "haha right bad" can be fun, but we mustnt be that american about it.
I think his widow celebrates his death more then anyone.
oh really? if so, i didnt know. thanksies for sharing.
If you aren't even remotely familiar with the circumstances it may be better to just sit back and listen for a bit.
Crass? So what!
The difference is that they make fun of minorities getting killed. We make fun of fascists getting killed. It is not the same in any way.
I just don’t like stooping to their level. I’d rather actual fucking consequences.
Like if you do this you’re inviting yourself to get punched in the face. And if I was on a jury, someone doing this kinda shit and getting punched would be fine.
It’s not a high class endeavor to be sure, but when they go low someone needs to kick them in the teeth.
Then we can go back to the regularly scheduled highbrow programming.
Let's not win the tasteless race.
Don't get me wrong, if Erika Kirk wanted to make the world a better place she could start by hastening her trip to join Charlie in hell. I'll also happily agree that Charlie was less an innocent victim and more an enemy combatant in the ongoing conflict between fascism and humanity. Even so, I feel like the performative cruelty here isn't exactly a good look. I'm not criticizing anyone's feeling of catharsis or schadenfreude about Kirk's fate, but this was a public display. It took effort and planning. They made props. And as a piece of political theater, this is not what we ought to be about. The message shouldn't focus on Kirk's death, but on making sure his life is remembered accurately: as a fascist debate bro who took massive amounts of money from the Epstein class to make internet memes for letting them do whatever they want. A man who immediately abandoned any libertarian small-government principles he used to claim once it became clear that openly hating gays, immigrants, and nonwhite people was politically viable.
Doesn't matter if is right or left ring. None sides gonna talk about Romenian Angels.
The difference is that right wing ideology is hate and violence. So it's not even close to the same thing.
Frank Sidebottom lives!
Where is the widow?
*Activist’s bullet-ridden body in the tent, Ride, Charlie ride Kirk’s splattered neck hits live stream, Ride, Charlie ride
Charlie’s wife is floundering, Charlie’s wife is scared Run, Erika run
Utah is an outrage when your husband is dead, Utah is an outrage when they plug up his neck, Utah is the reason that ol’ Charlie is dead! You gotta suck, suck, Erika suck*
Jesus was an extremist who got the bad Romans to reveal themselves after they were given the chance to show how much their hate ruled them. Not saying Kirk's Jesus, I just guarantee he's as alive as Epstein, that other cop in our decentralized autonomous organization of a POLICE STATE. I'm not saying his character isn't full of shit as much as his "assassination" was full of shit, but whenever the idoltarers are allowed to express their hate, there will be cops investigating those idoltarers. But this is just one of my accounts, I say a day after making my first comment and I say all this compassionately for y'alls sake...it's educational, if you read between the lines...remember Trump's assassination attempts were also faked. He's another cop too. Definitely a garbage character, but what about these people here? But we wouldn't go that far, crucifying another human being for the greater good of...investigating...the contents of the characters of the masses...