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8d 16h ago by mander.xyz/u/fossilesque in science_memes@mander.xyz from mander.xyz

A bee has never aggressively investigated my lunch and refused to fuck off when I'm eating outside.

the ones inspecting human food are one of the few agressive species. take care and maybe set up some traps at the table

3d print a fake hornet nest and put it near or on the table. Scares away wasps

But does it attract hornets?

Only if it has curb appeal

Also trap the nest with glue

Like I'd happily spare some if they'd just get the fuck out of my face

Decoy plate: put a lil food for ‘em a distance away from ya. Blew my mind when I first saw someone do that

I don't know, they're not all created the same. When I'm in the pool, I let bees land on me, or will fish them out of the water with my hands. Paper wasps look super frightening, but they're even more docile than honey bees. Yellow jackets on the other hand are complete assholes. We had a nest of them in the yard once and they would go way out of their way to sting people, just for the hell of it. Like not anyone close to the nest or anything, just someone on the patio chilling. I would leave a beehive, but I eradicated the yellow jacket nest.

I don't know if this is true but I've heard yellow jackets get intoxicated on fermenting fruit and become mean drunks.

Yellow jackets on the other hand are complete assholes. We had a nest of them in the yard once and they would go way out of their way to sting people, just for the hell of it.

This was my experience too. I had thought that bees had moved into a bush in my yard. I was happy to have bees there. A week later I was mowing the grass and felt several stabs of pain on my back and wrist. I turn around and see the air is filled with them. I had swatted one in my escape and had a corpse to inspect later and found it was a Yellow jacket wasp. From a distance I could see they were entering and exiting a hole near the bottom of the bush. A quick internet search later I knew that they were nearly dormant at night, and that they need a special oil they produce on the outside of their body to breath. Dawn dish soap apparently strips that away and they die, and its not toxic to the ground or environment.

I put half a bottle of Dawn squirted into their hole at the bottom of the bush at night. I never saw another Yellowjack wasp.

Ugh, sounds awful, but glad you found a solution. I don't remember what I put down the hole they had at the base of a tree. Wasn't dawn, I don't think.

I wasn't prepared for those stings on my skin to still be hurting some a week later.

Oh, they're SO painful. Really unnecessarily nasty.

Live by the stinger, die by the stinger

Yep, paper wasps are chill as fuck. I had a hive of them living on my deck under the hand rail. I'd go out and chill with them daily with my coffee during that summer. They would stare at me for a bit. Then get back to eating bits of my deck.

I'm so confused, the paper wasps around here are territorial assholes. Had a nest built on my porch and had to stop using that door. We let them be because we built the house in their woods, but they were definitely not chill at all haha

Edit: Did some learning, the regional species of paper wasps we encounter are known not only for their aggression but also their vastly more painful sting. Wonderful!

Which region if I may ask? Id love to know where never to camp ;)

Ozark Mountains! But you should definitely still camp here, I live in the woods and wouldn't trade this area for anything!

It looks wonderful on pictures, but I live in Norrbotten, Sweden so its a bit far away for a camping trip

Norbotten is gorgeous! I'll come camp with you, you come camp with me?!

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Its very much summer now

I'm in love! Is that your homestead? I grew up on a farm that my parents still live on, it's astonishingly similar to your neck of the woods, the pasture photo is my parent's place.

It's very dense around my house so hard to photograph, but here are my expecting neighbors! Should have some baby deer jumping and playing around the house soon!

Just so you know, you're the coolest person I've ever seen on the fediverse :)

Nice with that pond as well!

I got a small homestead with goats and meat bunnies, and my partner got horses. I love the life but it prohibits me from the long camping trips I used to do! If have a few lakes around where I pitch my tent when the mood takes me :)

I have a few lakes near me I love to camp on!

It's awesome to know there is someone like me on the other side of the world :)

https://www.swedishtouristassociation.com/guides/public-access-rights/

Some things to know about camping in Sweden :)

They're fun to watch because they often grab caterpillars from plants and take them away or eat them nearby. Great for gardens.

I used to own a house with two pear trees. I learned to pick up any fruit that dropped, because the pear juice would ferment under the skin in the warm sun, the wasps would pierce the skin and drink the pear liqueur, and then relentlessly chase me around the yard. It turns out that wasps are belligerent drunks, which shouldn't be surprising.

Bees on the other hand, are very fun drunks.

I was friends with a hive for years. One year they invited me to a spring bee-kegger. Many were just dancing, but some were so drunk they couldn't lift-off from the grass because they couldn't avoid the grass blades long enough to get into the sky.

I started providing a lift-off service so the drunk ones could keep dancing. Some of them were so drunk they just started snuggling my hand and would crawl into the nooks between my fingers and pass out for a while before waking refreshed and hitting the dance swarm again.

When I got home my daughter ran to me and gave me a hug. She jumped back so suddenly I was worried she almost killed a stray bee hiding somewhere and got stung.

"Where have you been?!" She said to me.
"Oh, I've been at a bee party all afternoon. They invited me. They were very drunk. It was amazing"
"Oh, that makes sense then. You smell like the essence of flowers, but not in a good way."

This is likely the best thing I will read today.

did you know that sober bees kick drunk bees out of the hive and dont let them in until they habe been sober for a while, and if they get violent/do it often they might be maimed by guard bees?

I did not. Thank you for the tidbit.

Everything seemed to be fine the next day. There were no forlorn bees outside any of the entrances (it was a Huge hive), and there were none hanging out at my house, where the sad boys usually spend a day or two after getting kicked out.

It was hundreds and hundreds of drunken bees. So I think they got a pass.

maybe the whole hive got drunk, including the guards, bees dont really tolerte drunks(and returning sick i think) because they can contaminate the hive and all the stored up honey, rosking a hive collapse, i bet the whole colony had a hangover xD

This is wasp propaganda.

this fuck stung the back of my head last week for the sin of taking out the trash.

Was out for a week for work. Got back to my front door and got attacked by a nest that had been made while I was out. I relished nuking them.

I've been stung by wasps dozens of times. Never been stung by a bee. I say hello to bumble bees. Wasps get none such niceties from me. Except for tarantula hawks. Those guys are way too fucking big not to doff my hat when in presence.

We should make wasp eating robots.

Agreed! I got stung once for the sin of stopping to look at a cute rabbit on a trail. Little fucker just stung my hand for no reason as I stood there. Fuck those guys. And I love insects!

Bees have never chased me down to sting me. Wasps however...

I've been chased by bees.

I once cut down a dead tree, not knowing that it contained a bees nest. They chased me until I jumped into a nearby creek. That was not fun.

Well that sounds like fair game. I support humans who kill belligerent wasps, and I support bees who sting belligerent humans

This is clearly wasp propaganda because wasps are not cool. They will actually attack you for no reason and then fly away thus indicating they could have always flown away.

Meanwhile bees completely ignore you.

A few months back I was visiting my retired parents, and I wanted to break the routine a bit and decided to sit at a lakeside table we never used because it was redundant.

As I walked up to the table and sat my stuff down, I heard a “FWOMP” followed by a sound I can only describe as “chitinous rubbing”. I slowly checked my surroundings until I noticed an almost basketball sized mass of wasps waking up that had fallen with part of a hive underneath the table. In a moment of extreme calculation I decided the only one of six things on the table worth risking stings for was the tablet, and I sprinted for the first time in years to get away.

So, I guess thanks to the wasps for the fun new core memory.

bro you need to sprint more

Yeah, consider doing it like me: I sprint for the train every day!

Last time I was stung by a wasp I was just standing on the street. I wasn't even moving. I was standing for about 30 minutes waiting when suddenly a wasp came, stung me on the neck and went away flying.

It was a "fuck you in particular" with qll the letters.

That happened to me too. I was standing in line at the bakery and got stung in the neck by a fucking wasp I didn't even see coming. Fuck those guys.

Literally my exact story with some Minor details.

Standing at bus stop, arms crossed, staring into distance, 15 minute wait

Watched the fucker fly from across the street, land on my arm, sting me, fly away

I think we can all agree this fucker deserves some hate, though:

Is that the Japanese hornet that eats whole colonies of bees?

Asian giant hornet, yeah.

Aka the MuRdEr hornet

I cut down a tree yesterday for a few reasons. One was that these bastards were way too interested in it and it's right next to my house's door (the other was roots damaging the house as it grew bigger and blocking light in my window). I had one in the house the first year we moved here and that was not a fun experience.

Please tell me you're not in the PNW. I thought we had eradicated the fuckers on this side of the big pond.

(sorry about the tree though. that sucks.)

I'm in rural Japan.

I've been stung by a bee exactly twice in my life. Both unfortunate accidents where the bee and I collided.

I have long since lost count of how many times I have been stung by wasps just for being near them.

Bees don't make nests above my door, or under my patio awning. Or generally everywhere outside I need to be. Fuck them wasps.

Ha, same for bee stings. Once on I put my hand into one the ground, once swung my hand and hit one mid air that was just flying and didn't expect me to move the way I did. Bees are alright.

One of them is chill and just zooms around to pollinate. The other tries to get into every place I don't want it to be violently and then starts stinging when it inevitably gets stuck. Wasps always try to get into my food, fly somewhere in my clothes where it'll inevitably get stuck, fly into my face, etc.

I've been stung multiple times by both. Bees was always my full idiocy (I was obsessed with insects as a kid). Wasps was never my fault though, those cunts just put themselves in harms way only to "defend themselves" when the inevitable happens

Thing is it's not actually wasps but just a few very specific kinds of wasps that are assholes ruining the reputation for all.

Something similiar happens for bees. When people talk about them being endangered nowadays they don't mean the domesticated honey bees many think about (those are cared enough for that populations are rather growing) but the many kinds of wild (and often solitary) bees.

Classic not all wasps apologist.

I feel like wasps seem more interested in both sweaty humans and our food compared to bees, so they get in your face in another way than bees do.
Our southern red brick wall houses a lot of red mason bees every year and even though they live just next to the porch they leave us be. I've had a tired bee take a break on my sun-warm shoulder once or twice, but that's pretty much it.

Yeah not all wasps.

But pretty much all the wasps I ever interact with. Idc about some other wild wasps that I never see because they're chill and stay in the forest or something on their own.

Yeah fair. Only a specific kind indeed, the other wasps I do respect. I recently spent quite a while getting one of the nice wasps out of my house because I didn't want to kill it. Yellowjackets do not usually have that luxury though, unless letting them go is easier than killing them

Put themselves in harms way only to get angry about their choices and “forced to defend themselves”… why does that sound so familiar

I've never understood their habit of nervously circling around my food for ages like some sort of pendulum of ruined picknicks. Why risk a fight when you could just get your food and fuck off? You'd think aeons of evolution would have corrected that. Sure, who doesn't like to take a sniff or two before digging in but wasps need to grow the fuck up.

The nest of meat-eating vulture bees:

I think a sort of crucial point; they eat dead, rotting meat.

They don't eat anything that lives or fights back.

They look like their stings give you Scarlet Rot.

Mmmm, blood honey, pairs well for breakfast with my blood diamonds.

Many wasp species are quite gentle. We get a lot of great golden digger wasps on our spotted bee balm and despite looking quite scary, they are quite gentle and avoid human contact.

We have a bird bath and when the water has evaporates, the blue mud dauber wasps will sit on the side and very patiently watch me refill it.

They eat parasites and protect the garden. Truly, the more the merrier.

Not many, majority. Only a few dozens species are asshole, and a handful of it is basically hell spawn. I have wasp often making nest near my garden, 0 sting, mostly because i live in tropical zone and in an area where asshole wasp isn't everywhere. The only wasp attack i've experienced so far is when i'm 10, where a wasp landed on my belly and i panicked swap it away, got stung that way.

Majority of wasp hater come from area where asshole wasp is around.

Yeah but maybe if an invasive species didn't try to nest IN MY FUCKING LIGHT FIXTURES then we wouldn't be having this convo

I had more than that - a bunch of nests that didn't die over the winters in my house's attic when I bought it, behind the kneewalls. I must have killed thousands of wasps that summer. But then! They left their dirty wasp pheromones everywhere so wasps come back year after year trying to put new nests up. I have never had such a difficult relationship with an animal before. But that was before Argentine ants started attacking... fuck those bastards

I'm usually surrounded by paper wasps who don't really seem to care unless you actively injure them. Have been bumped many times and they contonued on their way.

I've heard yellow jackets are usually the type to screw you over because they can.

(Un)fortunately, afaik yellow jackets are actually a pretty effective means of pest control for several crops because they more aggressively collect protein for their larvae.

because they more aggressively collect protein for their larvae.

Sorry, that's me offering them a small speck of meat so they leave the rest of my plate alone.

Wasp extortion from the wasp mafia, La Vespa Nostra

🪙 have some Lemmy gold

Wow! There's an emoji for everything.

My dog got attacked by a colony of yellowjackets for having the audacity to go near their nest that was just on the other side of our fence line. He ended up in the ER for anaphylaxis. The neighbor's dogs got stung too, though they weren't allergic. Those little cunts can all die in a fire.

Paper wasps I hate less, I just wish they'd stop trying to make nests on the eaves of my house. They're chill, but I just want them to find somewhere else to call home.

There are 3D models available for paper wasp nests, that can stop them from latching to your house. Wasps are HIGHLY territorial, and will not start a new colony nearby to another nest.

I left an old one up by my garage, and despite it being empty, no wasps come remotely close to my the front of my house anymore.

For the record, soap kills insects. Get a good spray bottle, put a lot of soap in it, more than recommended online for me.

I genocided a ground wasp nest I stepped on some time back with the soap water, they don't make the connection between me and getting sprayed. I spent like three hours spraying countless wasps.

They jive around when sprayed, then maybe 12 seconds they go on their back convulsing, still within a minute.

Not only do they kill honeybees, they even attack each other. Wasp bed.

"Wasp bed" sounds like an inventive form of torture

Don't threaten me with a good time.

r/honeyfuckers?

Extremely NSFW fyi

Good. Fuck honeybees, they're invasive here.

I'm a gardener and every time someone approaches my door to solicit pest management, I ask if it will kill the wasps and spiders. Every single time they share an excited yes, I get to tell them that I don't kill my gardening coworkers.

Wasps and spiders eat the bugs that eat my crops. Pesticides also greatly increase your risk of health issues. No thank you.

Once I listened to a pest control guy and he said "I bet you've noticed a lot of wolf spiders in your yard", to which I agreed.

He told me that their pest control dumps a shit load of pest control spray that should keep them away for a while. I asked, "but isn't that where they live? Outside?"

He didn't seem to understand how someone could belive that the spiders should be allowed to live outside.

Love that reply. Father of a friend paves every green spot in his property with stone floorings step by step for years now and sprays ant poison everywhere. He's really really pissed about them ants minding their own business (like... just normal ants, not even fire ants or smth).

My response is always a "the fucking audacity of those ants. Building their colony just right there in the ground outside! Don't they know this is your property?!"

... My comments on this topic are generally not very well received.

I got stung by a wasp when I was a kid literally just for sitting in the backseat. I had done nothing at all, and I got stung like three times.

Got stung as a stupid kid who found a few piles of dead branches you could bounce on like a trampoline. Yeah, turns out one of them had a nest underneath, and the tenants weren't quite happy with the upstairs neighbour partying so hard the ceiling came down.

Absolutely my fault, no question about it, and my only feeble defense is "I didn't know".

My issue is now, that I struggle with seizing up in panic if I know (or think) there is one mear me. Not the "shrieking trying to run away" kind of panic, just freezing in place, struggling to breathe or move. I can't chase them away or anything, even if they were docile and harmless enough.

It's really because bees are fuzzy and able to be seen in a cute light whereas wasps are more metal and scary looking.

It's also because wasps seem to be a lot more agressive, and will follow you, whereas your average bee just wants to get back to their flower.

whereas your average bee just wants to get back to their flower

that's really all some of want, too.

Nothing personal against wasps. But I prefer them far away from me. Which often comes into conflict with their interests, as they have this nasty tendency to invade the space I occupy, as in my house, my patio, the places I have to go in order to work, etc. If they ignore me, I'll show the same respect. If stingers come out blazing, insecticide starts being sprayed.

The parasitic wasps can fuck right off. I worked in the southern I25 corridor of Colorado for a while and saw Tarantula Hawks. My first thought was that I had seen a humming bird the first time I saw one - they are that big. The poor little male tarantulas are just venturing for a end of life hookup and then they have to worry about being eaten alive by the spawn of these fuckers. Poor bastards.

Parasitic wasps keep hornworms from destroying my garden and haven't stung me once. I vote they stay.

Also, I like figs.

I was driving down the motorway in shorts and I noticed a wasp on my leg. I felt like I was being held at gun point

I still have a scar on my thigh from when I was running 9 years ago and a wasp stung me as I ran by at 7mph

Paper wasps are okay, they just want to eat rotting wood to make their nests. Fuuuuuuck eastern yellowjackets though. I'm pretty sure those assholes sting you on sight because they enjoy it. They make me glad that we also have bald-faced hornets to keep them in check.

The only time I've been stung by a bee is when I was little and walking outside bare foot and stepped on one. I've been stung by wasps for things like being outside or being inside when a wasp got in the house.

I've gotten stung by a dying wasp who crawled to my mousepad and I unknowingly placed my hand on it. Fuck those assholes

Ha, the 1st time I was "stung" by a bee as a kid, I was sitting poolside and smashed my hand onto one.

I get stung all the time. I mean not every year but maybe every other, but I work outside. If wasps nests are so sacrosanct and important, why do some species leave them laying on the ground?

Fuck Ground wasps. All stinging wasps are like mean drunks when it gets hot outside. Obviously there are thousands of other species, few of which sting.

If it has a stinger, doesn't make me honey, and is at all aggressive toward humans, it's kill on sight. Idc if it's a pollinator or w/e - either the other pollinators can fill in the gap after its death/extinction, or the ecosystem collapses... which we're speedrunning the latter anyway, so fuck it, we're not going to make a significant impact on the global collapse of life by being a little extra aggressive to fuckers like wasps, mosquitos, etc.

I’ll just let wasps buzz around my face until they get bored. Unless you’re too near the nest they’re only going to sting you if you freak out and start flailing around.

Lol!! I can only imagine you work for Big Wasp ;P

You don't even need to get to the flailing around, even just a simple 2-swipe shoo with your palm and they'll quickly leave. Bees, hornets, yellow jackets, etc.

Dude I had a wasp flying around me while I was getting stuff out of my truck putting it in my storage unit two days ago. I hit that mother fucker twice knocked it away and it kept coming back for more. Fuck those assholes.

Absolute wasp propaganda. Are the wasps paying you to say that?

Paper Wasps ✔️ Yellowjackets ❌

A paper wasp keeps trying to make a nest in my doorway and we look at each other every time I open the door. Since they're not aggressive they don't do anything unless you actively are messing with them (and sometimes even then they don't attack!)

Anyways, it flies away and I remove the beginnings of the nest every time. Then it comes back overnight and makes another one in the exact same spot. It's a little game I play with the wasp at this point

Paper wasps are such bros! A month or two ago I stuck my hand into one of their nests inadvertantly, was greeted with what felt like electrical shocks, and my hand didn't swell or even hurt after a minute or two.

I will always come to paper wasps', or wasps in general, defense. I'm sure yellow jackets play an important ecological niche too, but I haven't run into 'em enough to have an opinion on their temperament.

Yellow jackets aren't aggressive, they're just annoying because they like the same foods we do and are super persistent about it. They're like panhandlers who won't give up: Got any spare change? No. Are you sure? Yes. But do you have any? No. But do you?

When the Interspecies Olympics finally get organized you'll both be ready!

Naw, ichneumon wasps are cool as fuck

I randomly got stung by a wasp whilst walking to work one day 🤷‍♂️ (back before I discovered that I was too disabled to hold down a job safely).

Wasps are the insect tigers, dangerous but worthy of love ❤️

I appreciate what wasps do for the environment, but I'm fairly sure that I'm genuinely somewhat phobic of them, presumably stemming from getting stung by one when I was like 3 or 4. It's become more manageable to an extent as I've gotten older, but to this day, seeing or especially hearing a wasp nearby still stirs a bit of fight-or-flight reflex in me.

I don't go out of my way to kill them unless they're actively nesting on my house or something, but I do wish them a very "go do your thing, just far away from me personally."

Bee sting because they're protecting themselve or the colony, wasp sting because they're assholes

Idk if it's a species difference, but European yellow jacket wasps are pretty fucking chill. I've only been or seen someone get stung if they accidentally squish/step on them.

On the other hand they're soooo persistent about stealing my food and bait. Like no, you can't steal meat from my fork, fuck off. gets slapped, and comes back with 5 more sisters to bully me out of my lunch. It's especially bad in late summer and so we have to eat indoors because of them.

Hornets can go fuck themselves though and I try to kill them on sight if they're around the house.

You can avoid wasp stings in the exact same way as bee stings; not being a fucking idiot

That goes both ways. Wasps like to fuck around and find out.

Yeah, one came into my house the other day. Big mistake. Buddy got split in half by my bug a salt.

I was stung like 4 months ago by one while riding a motorbike. In the neck. It left a damn scar. For nearly a month I looked like I had a hickey.

Something landed on me, and I swatted it on instinct. Only then did I notice I had killed a wasp.

dolphin good, shark bad

Be careful! Sharks bite! Here's some wild footage of the apex predator biting someone. (Content warning: cuteness overload. Discretion is advised.)

That actually would have been bad if it was an adult shark. They were acting aggressive, and he just kind of sat there.

It would but since it's a baby it's like the marine equivalent of a baby jaguar or lion doing their best to look "I is fiewce! I bites!".

I'm pretty sure humans have liked bees and disliked wasps for a lot longer than most of us even knew there were sharks or dolphins.

The people who write this stuff live in cities. Synurbizated wasps.

One time in my freshman year of highschool I was biking to school at the start of the school year. I drove past a dense line of trees and AT LEAST 3 wasps all latched onto my leg closest to the trees and tried repeatedly stinging me. Luckily I was wearing thick enough pants that they couldn't get through. Texas wasps are fucked.