I still can't get over Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it?
5d 6h ago by lemmy.world/u/PikasGameStudio in games
I still can't get over The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it? I want to try something newer, with better technology, but I hope they can be as rich and interesting as Skyrim.
Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon is on sale on Steam right now. I've only played through the prologue, but it seems pretty good so far.
I was about to recommend this too. Probably the closest thing to Elder Scrolls that isn't actually Elder Scrolls or a mod. Excellent game, and quite an impressive achievement considering it's an indie developer with nowhere near the budget of a Bethesda game.
I am curious about this one - what’s combat like? I’m pretty picky when it comes to mechanics.
Somewhat similar to Skyrim combat with the addition of parrying, dodging, and quick-swap hotkey consumables like potions, throwable potions (called splashes), throwing knives, food, and weapon oils (flame, frost, poison). I think magic combat is much better than Skyrim. Spells have light and heavy attack options, and you can wield any combination of spells and weapons (other than if you have a 2 handed weapon). You can have up to 4 sets of magic and/or weapons in your inventory slots to quickly swap between. Stealth combat is more difficult than Skyrim. Sneaking close to enemies requires more situational awareness, and the stealth skills aren't as overpowered as Skyrim.
Shoots arrows.
Crouches.
Shoots arrows.
Crouches.
Shoots arrows.
Crouches.
A bit absurd, in my limited experience. I did a bow with a one-handed rapier-like sword and a parrying dagger in my one playthrough so far. The bow was irritating to aim and arrow flight seems weirdly inconsistent on distance, but when it lands it’s about as overpowered as sneak archery in Skyrim.
The parrying is similarly strong — enemies could kill me if I wasn’t paying attention, but you can parry the majority of attacks, including things that seem impossible, like parrying a bear biting you, and the parrying dagger’s window is overly forgiving and overly spammable to the point that I had to stop myself from using it sometimes. I think parrying with other weapons is less silly, but I didn’t mess with them enough.
I also didn’t try the magic, so someone else can pick that part up, but it looked pretty extensive.
It's very Souls-inspired, but (as someone who has played a good number of souls games) it's done fairly poorly. It's still far more interactive than TES games, but it's clunky. It's not bad, just bad compared to the Souls games, which are particularly good, but the rest of the game is quite different from a souls game. It's basically if you take the bonfires and combat system from a souls game and stick it in a narrative focused RPG.
Hm as someone who holds Fromsoft mechanics as the standard for gaming it sounds like this might be a game I'll either love or I'll hate. Definitely love the idea of having the rest of the game different from Soulslikes. But if combat isn't tight it's likely I'll bounce off of it or slog through just to see the end. I could hardly get myself to finish Witcher 3 even though I loved everything about it except the combat.
It's worth a shot. You can get it pretty cheap sometimes. Honestly though, yeah, I think it's probably better for people who haven't played many souls-likes. For me, it feels clunky and super easy to cheese because I'm used to what it's trying to do, and I know to use the mechanics to my advantage. I spent a good few hours with it, but eventually stopped playing. I didn't dislike it, but I put it down one day and then never had the interest of coming back.
On hard difficulty, it feels like soulslike / tes mixup. The combat is dynamic and most enemies of your level would hit hard, but blocks, dodges and dashes are there.
But on the other hand, more things can be improved with gear and level to absurd proportions, like improve iframes on dodge or extend parry window to like more than half a sec.
In addition to what everyone else said, the summons are pretty cool, as well. You can summon multiples of a creature as well as direct them all to attack a specific enemy if there's one fucker in a group that needs a jumping, and you can consume your summoned creatures to regain mana (or health, it's been a while since I played last and I can't remember exactly.)
There's also a spell that causes targets to explode into cheese. And it works on your summons. So, infinite cheese is neat, I suppose
Ha cheese explosion sounds like the kind of lunacy I appreciate in a game. That could be all I need to know to give it a shot.
I also came to recommend this, I have played a lot of the game. Same exploration and basic leveling mechanics, similar balance of silly humor and serious story, really fun underrated game
Finished it recently and will certainly play it another round to catch things I missed. Nice game...
Grab the DLC, too, or no?
Edit: TY for recco, bought :)
Yes. Is good stuff.
Looks interesting, anyone knows if it can run on Linux?
Yes, I beat it and only played in Linux.
Protondb.com is your friend, but also essentially everything can that isn't multiplayer, and most of that can as long as it isn't from EA or China.
Ok you want something as rich and interesting as skyrim, so I'm assuming open world games are your jam.
There are three games you should play.
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Red Dead Redemption 2 - it's a Western, the world is very believable, and it makes you feel like you're really part of it. You can follow the main story line, or you could spend your days hunting and fishing. You could travel from town to town playing every poker game you can find. You can conduct train robberies, breed horses, really, there's just a whole lot to do.
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Cyberpunk 2077 - this is RDR2 but in a scifi dystopian future where the corpos own everything, sex is for sale on every billboard and every ad break, and the only justice is what you can achieve on your own. You've got a ticking time bomb in your brain and no time to fuck around. In this world where you can't trust anyone, somehow what really matters are the friends you make along the way. (seriously)
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The Witcher 3 - from the same studio that made cyberpunk, the Witcher 3 is truly a masterpiece of storytelling. The one caveat I have for this game is that it starts hard, almost "souls-like". But get past that first rough hour and there is an extremely rich world with a seemingly unending collection of stories to become a part of. This may be the most skyrim-like of the games listed here, but you're in for a treat, because this is a much better game than Skyrim.
All three of these games are gonna make you feel real feelings, they're all actually better at telling stories than Skyrim is. The Witcher 3 in particular loves to live in the grey zone, it'll make you make ethical choices that matter, and you probably won't like any of the possible outcomes. But this is a good thing!
I'd throw Kingdom Come in there, too
Looking at the basic gameplay loop and quest design, Kingdom Come is probably the closest to Skyrim. Just with the realism dialed up to 11.
The first thing I thought when I played it was mechanically, this is exactly what I wanted Oblivion to be.
In retrospect I probably should have mentioned the horizons games as well, but I just finished with cyberpunk, so that's been on my mind.
Have you tried Skyrim: Anniversary Edition, Skyrim: Special Edition or Skyrim: Legendary edition? /j
skyrim with kinect was genuinely the best version
Love the idea that you can actually scream the shouts :D
Oh man, have you heard of Dragonborn Speaks Naturally? You can scream the shouts, for sure, but you actually say the lines of dialogue your character speaks to NPCs to select them! Paired with VR (and a hundred other mods) it’s one of the craziest game experiences I’ve ever played!
ive been dreaming of that being in a game
Oh wow
There was s Skyrim for Alexa add
Witcher 3. That castle ruin over there? Might have some loot. Or a Cockatrice. Or a psychological horror story of 10 parts. Or nothing at all, who knows. And you might stumble over Excalibur by that lake.
Also get the "Blood and Wine" DLC, absolutely worth it, even if you're not into the story. And the HD Reworked mod if you like it more realistic and dark, one of the best reworks ever.
Edit: there's now Next Gen too, huh.
The Witcher 3 includes all the DLC now, and it’s like $10 on Xbox. Or at least that’s what I paid last week. Just started for the first time.
On PC it's also DRM-free, even the Steam version, not just the GOG version. So if one of your friends has it you can just copy it from them
Why would you do that considering what this game costs now?
Telling people what in particular you like about Skyrim is going to get you much better feedback as there are many, many games that are similar in some ways but not others.
I'm just looking for a game where I can hoard consumables in perpetuity. Any suggestions?
You never know when you might need them.
Have you considered going meta and hoarding games you might play about hoarding consumables in perpetuity?
check out factorio... you can hoard as much as you want :D
Minecraft is actually really good for this, you can pretty much hoard everything the world has in it. I always end up just doing nothing but building hoards full of food and means to produce it everywhere like some small mammal preparing for a long winter lmao. I guess you should rather try the other games that mimic it though since microslop, but I haven't tried those
The crab monacle mod 🦀🦀
Sorry, nothing can match the glory of Posh Mudcrabs, especially when paired with samuel L jackson mudcrabs in SKYRIM.
Don't tell my kid, who won't stop playing Crab Rave over and over in Beat Saber (and wouldn't stop watching the music video when we didn't have a good VR setup), about this.
I like the scripting language? It's stupid easy to edit the bytecode and change something if you want to without needing a full dev environment.
Edit: honorable mention for worst scripting language in a game: X4. Have you seen a for loop in a xml-like "markup" language? Would you like to?
This might just be too obvious, but nobody's mentioned it... Have you played the other Elder Scrolls, like the Oblivion remaster?
The Oblivion remaster is great. If you can get past the terrible performance, it's very immersive and feels like Skyrim with a smaller world and more fun quests. The DLC included was also great.
It really was! It was available for free on Gamepass, so even though I'd already done SO many playthroughs, I thought I'd check it out. I didn't put it down until I had done almost literally everything.
I thought I was the only person who enjoyed the remaster. I got it for PS5 instead of PC because I wasn’t sure my PC could handle it, and it ran very smooth for me. I know some people had issues but I put around 80 hours in and never had any problems. I still play the original Oblivion if I wanna play keyboard and mouse but I think I prefer the remaster if I’m just gonna turn off my brain and play for a while.
I can give you older and with worse tech - Morrowind is better than Skyrim
morrowind storyline and world building is peak.
Add in OpenMW and Tamriel Rebuilt.
Tbh, I really need to get into Morrowind myself. I'm excited for Skywind and kinda waiting for that to come out instead, since I have a lot of projects keeping me from gaming this year
This is how you honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned.
So is Oblivion, though in terms of "better" it belongs in the middle spot it happens to occupy numerically as well.
Eh, I tried Oblivion, the Cyrodiil seemed to be quite small, while both Morrowind and Skyrim are quite gigantic for their time.
The expansion helped for sure, Shiv Isles.
True though it was for sure smaller (unless you ever tried to "no fast travel" rule yourself then you'll find out how big it is real quick lmao), but (and I concede Morrowind is just better, it just is there's no way around it), but while Skyrim was large, effectively "who cares" because it was empty and dull and drab and gray. Cyrodiil is smaller but it's absolutely gorgeous and vibrant throughout (even in the snow covered regions so that's no excuse.)
Furthermore, my fundamental issue with Skyrim is the quests are just...dull. The main line is ok (Oblivion's was better and Morrowind's better still), but the side quests are abject dogshit, and the side quests historically were my favorite part. I stole a goddamn Elder Scroll, I snuck past every Ancestor Moth, I became the mother fucking Gray Fox, and in skyrim "hey you remember that same dumb silver vase you stole from one dickhead's house? Steal it again from another dickhead's house. Gray Fox? Whodat?" I loosened the bolts on a man's stuffed moose after sneaking through his crawlspace to avoid his paid security, and got a bonus for it, and eventually became The Speaker. In skyrim "go kill that guy. Cool do it again." The most memorable part of The Brotherhood in skyrim was from oblivion, by Lucian Luchance's ghost.
I'm gonna be real, I kinda didn't like skyrim and don't think I'll get 6. I'll replay the oldies. My only real complaint with Morrowind is beast races can't wear helmets and boots (I understand "human ones wouldn't fit" but think given their existence in-lore it would make sense for them to have seen humans wearing them and gone "hey let's do that for our shape." I do however accept that the Cats and Lizards might still not though, Argonians being newly freed and technologically behind, and the Kitties need their claws but should have helmets, even if only leather.) My only real complaint with Oblivion is I wish they'd have left a bunch of shit from Morrowind like crossbows etc.
Amen brother! After playing Morrowind and Oblivion and then getting Skyrim I was so disappointed. Feels like a mass appeal version of Elder Scrolls that was hollow compared to the other two
As someone who started with Skyrim, I still wait for Skywind to release. I honestly tried Morrowind, but for a modern generation of gamers, it's simply unbearable as far as game mechanics, controls, animations etc. go. I stopped straight at Balmora, because I can't get used to it. And OpenMW can't fix all that.
100% fair! Personally I think Oblivion is better for those reasons too. Morrowind is really magical though, some of those more open systems provide opportunities that modern hand holding systems just can't recreate. It is definitely worth the time to get accustomed too, kind of like acquiring the taste for craft beer or fine wine. Stuff that you originally found offensive might become some of your favorite parts. No map markers so you have to read and follow directions is a good example of that. On the surface, it's a pain compared to modern games. But acquire the taste and suddenly you realize you're paying more attention to the world around you, mentally mapping landmarks. It's really immersive and cool in a way that walk towards this symbol isn't.
All that to say, your opinion is totally valid haha
I actually enjoyed not having quest markers! That gives a sense of discovery that felt fresh and new despite the old roots, and I hope Skywind won't force quest markers on the user (although I also hope they will be added as an optional feature).
I just want to see things looking and moving more naturally, along with sensible keybinds and more.
By far. Such a disappointment.
And Fallout 4 was the same, fight me (probably not you "fight me," I bet you agree based on your TES opinions.)
Hard agree on Fallout 4! It was the same feeling I got from Skyrim. Something like "Ah, this series I love isn't being made for me anymore"
I got your back when the fight breaks out
My dude, I did a no fast travel run of Skyrim, so Cyrodiil won't scare me :D
As per quests - yes, they don't really adapt to your current progress, and that might be a problem for some. It makes sense to complete all sorts of side quests alongside the main one. But still, I kinda like the feeling I can go somewhere and be pretty much no one even though I'm about to slay Alduin. Feels like a breath of fresh air.
I didn’t mind the non-levelling quests so much but, for example, it takes zero time to become the Archmage of Winterhold, but then every magical person outside the college still treats you like a novice who can barely be trusted with a fetch quest. It’s a little immersion-breaking in both directions
I see the point!
Not even just "they don't adapt," Skyrim's side quests might as well not exist they're so damn boring. "Oohhh a race war" who cares I want to steal cool and varied stuff!
The "race war" was actually one of the most entertaining parts to me - that's an entire new dimension of struggle besides the main dragon story! Honestly, I think they could handle it better, adding more details, as it's one of the major things we're introduced to early on in the story.
Honestly I'm inclined to agree with that, and that's my problem with it. It shouldn't be the most interesting part but since everything else was so boring it ended up that way.
The major disappointment was that after III and IV had such rich lore and worlds, but by V they must have fired the guy that could write. Having seen what they could do vs what they released was just sad.
For me it was Witcher 3 and the dlc. Love that game so much..
And a new DLC is coming soon!
This is the right answer
Have you played the Fallout games by the same dev? 3, New Vegas, and 4 play very similarly to Skyrim just in a different genre.
With New Vegas being vastly superior to the others in story and characters.
And it might be no coincidence it is the one not developed by Bethesda.
I preferred 3, tbh. With the smallest exception of the glaring dumb plot hole at the end, though they did patch that.
The writing and atmosphere is better in New Vegas, but the gunplay is better in 4.
I am playing Fallout 4 these days, and it's giving me an itch to go back and play Skyrim 😀
Tainted grail: fall of Avalon.
Its janky, but pretty cool in its own way.
its janky
Ahhh! The true Skyrim experience.
In that case, Two Worlds and Gothic 3 should be perfect matches 😁
Hell yea Two Worlds mentioned!
Also, everyone should listen to Ymir by Danheim at least once
It's a banger! Comes on at the perfect time too. I sat there and listened for quite a while lol.
I know they stole took inspiration from some elder scrolls elements, but it's honestly nothing like TES. If anything it really shows how hard it is to make an elder scrolls game.
Kingdom Come Deliverance 1 was great.
But it's a Medieval RPG, not fantasy. So you won't find elves or orcs or magic.
Edit: Actually nevermind, don't play it, it's too strict of an RPG, not for everyone, (i.e. fighting more than 2 people can kill you easily unless you master the combat, using a bow won't give you the center reticle, saving the game needs a specific item or you need to sleep in a bed, wearing a helmet will limit your vision to the shape of the visor, etc)
I suggested this because my Skyrim was modded to be a strict RPG as well.
Greatest game ever. I love the fighting system the limited vision etc
And the sequel is of equal quality, the combat was simplified a bit but I like both approaches.
The sheer amount of high quality narrative across both games is pretty unique. There's very little that feels like filler busy work, which was what most of skyrim felt like for me. Especially after oblivion.
I hear great things about it, I didn't mention KCD 2 because I didn't play it.
All those things you added can be added to Skyrim as well via mods
Yeah that's what I said, I suggested KCD because I was playing a modded Skyrim.
If OP wants the feel of vanilla Skyrim, then KCD is not the right choice.
got any recommendations on favorite mods from your Skyrim version?
It's been a few years since I played it, so I don't really remember most of them and even if I did, there's a good chance they are outdated or are replaced by newer mods.
Baldurs gate 3 is not quite the same thing, but has similar themes. You are an adventurer saving the world (most of the time) who collects an inordinate amount of items. It's one of the only other games I have over 800 hours in.
I've heard of this game as well; it's great.
You should definitely play baldur's gate! Very little resemblance to Skyrim besides being a fantasy game, but the story, build variety, characters, setting, literally everything, is fantastic. I'm almost through my first playthrough of bg3 and it's been tons of fun
Skyrim is actually the last skyrim-type game to be manufactured until Bethesda announces Skyrim 2 hopefully sometime this year.
The witcher does a pretty good job IMO.
If you're fine with a preset player character. That's a big difference, I never could get into any of the Witcher games because of it.
By contrast in games like Skyrim or BG3 I can come up with my own character with their own backstory, personality, motivations and, essentially, their own story (within the confines of what's in the game).
They're only 3rd person, IIRC. I'm not a huge fan of that, personally.
Then dont play them.
I played 1 for a little while, 2 right up until sneak mission, but 3 lost me. Is it really worth a second try?
3 is one if the best games ever made, and that's a widely had opinion.
Sold, I'm a half hour or so from beating twilight princess, and witcher 3 is next.
Say hello to the Baron for me.
Honestly I think 3 is, I bought it back when it first came out and I just didn't get into it, I got bored before the main quest line finished and quit. I tried it again earlier this year and suddenly I can't put it down, I don't know whats different this time around but I'm glad for whatever it is.
Sold.
Red Dead Redemption 2
Witcher 3
Kingdom Come Deliverance
There are a lot of good recommendations in here, but if you like Skyrim that much have you considered playing a total conversion of it? Enderal: The Shards of Order Is so different that is basically a completely new game, but within the concept of Skyrim, it’s engine, and a lot of its assets. Think the change from ocarina of time to majora’s mask, but even more extreme
Have you looked at the gothic remake? It's probably not as big but it should scratch a similar itch. But it's not as free form, you're playing as a set (male) nameless hero.
Otherwise... no not really. I could recommend wildly different games and genres that also feature exploration, but skyrim is just very good.
Yes, truly unique
Omg playing this now and good lord this game was and is incredible.
It’s been so long since I played it that I forgot everything and it’s so fun to play the remake!
It's crazy that the original Gothic 1 predates all other games mentioned here by years. It is even cited as a main inspiration for the Witcher series. And the remake is really good.
How is Gothic remake mechanically? Like, are the controls modernized too? What about difficulty, did it drop?
The controls are modern, the difficulty can be set fine-grained. You can adjust three different aspects of the game (combat, progression and resources) individually in three steps.
I only watched some streams, they did some updates for the controls and the UI, inventory stood out to me. So I hope they updated the controls to be "modern and palatable" too.
They did. It's basically a modern game in terms of UI and controls.
Depends on what you actually want. If it's the first-person RPG experience, there's a handful such as Tainted Grail and Cyberpunk 2077. If it's using a slightly different system or closer to traditional RPG, either the Witcher or BG3 or Expedition 33.
But modding... I cannot find any other RPG that gets better if it is modded, as Skyrim -- and Morrowind and Oblivion -- pretty much designed to be modded.
There is Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2.
Its different, few mods are about extending the original Content, and few about graphics, but so many mods with their own stories, even integrating card games long before Witcher came and with widely different stories. Its awesome.
Also NWN: Mask of the Betrayer is among the best RPG stories I have played, only surpassed by Baldurs Gate 2.
Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Not the same kind of "magic" but if you want immersion and a super rewarding story I highly recommend it
Heavily depends on what makes Skyrim special for you.
The most obvious similar games are other Bethesda titles, especially Oblivion and Morrowind. Install some QoL and graphical mods, and you should now have 3 Skyrims.
Have you played Enderal?
Some call it a mod, but it's a whole ass game, made in Skyrim Engine.
Arguably with a better main story and side quests and great voice acting (in the original German version at least). It also incorporates some of thr best Skyrim mods and has a seperate installer so only Skyrim is necessary to play it.
Personally I didn't care for the more drab and depressing tone of Enderal over TES. But that's my personal opinion on it and if you like that sort of vibe then you'll likely have a good experience
Loved this game. The Skyrim Grandma infamously rage quit this game. But it’s really no harder than Skyrim if you’re reasonably good at that. It just has a few tricks The Elder Scrolls never attempted, like areas that don’t level with you and are really hard until you’re ready for them… and radiation from Fallout except it’s magic residue.
Enderal is also much darker than Skyrim. I caught myself saying, “Holy shit they really did that” a couple times.
Totally biased, since I lived in half of my life in Skalitz. Have you considered KDC?
As a huge Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim fan, I've found the same. KDC in many ways hit many of the same vibes but with superior characters, story, and dialogue. The missing magic is a vibe I still return to mostly Oblivion for these days.
And it’s a technical marvel. It’s like CryEngine was built for KCDII.
Also, it is so medieval it hurts.
Kingdom Dome Celiverence?
Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon
An indie game which has a lot of Skyrim vibes.
I've been getting into it slowly. The doom and gloom vibes are a little much, but I think I can still hang
Honestly, I haven't started. But several people recommended it, describing it as Skyrim like.
Oblivion Remastered - basically Skyrim, start here IMO.
Kingdom Come Deliverance, 1 and 2 - exacly the same as Skyrim except super realistic and historically accurate.
Dragon's Dogma, 1 and 2 - faster paced dynamic combat with a big, vibrant world to explore, but without the finer details.
Dragon Age, Origins, 2 and 3 - More strategic combat and dialogue, less world detail.
Mount and Blade, Warband and Bannerlord - ok not that much like Skyrim but similar appeal. You go into battles with dozens of soldiers, command and fight alongside them, plenty of RPG elements and questing but is mainly a sandbox for you to figure out your own goals on your own.
Was able to get Dragons Dogma 2 from my library last week and boy is it fun. Probably 20 hours in so far and really enjoying the systems and world.
Pretty darn solid game. I’d second this recommendation for Skyrim fans.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is fantastic and the secret ending is mind-blowing.
Oh no! Secret ending?! Now I’m really hooked.
Is this something that can be missed during a regular play through? I’d hate to spoil it searching. If you don’t mind, can you let me know if I’m safe to search “dragons dogma 2 secret ending” or is it something that happens if I complete all quests or something similar if that’s not a safe search?
Thanks friend! I put a few more hours in last night and had my first hired pawn show up again 20 levels stronger. Added them to the party again and it has been really cool how the character evolved and comments on being back with the crew. Little touches like that keep me hooked.
Nope, can't accidentally lock yourself out of getting it. No worries there.
But you do have to put some thought into it because it is up to you to do what is needed to trigger it as opposed to getting the regular ending. All I will say is pay close attention to details during the late game
And man that's the best feeling is seeing a pawn you hired before come through the rift again. The game is chock full of those little touches, like having people fight over you at your house after getting a few NPCs affinity maxed out.
I also heard the game is getting or has gotten a substantial update recently, so about time I give it another go around.
Thanks for the info! I’m sure I got a ways to go until late game so I can hopefully still get see it.
Sounds like I need to read up on affinity as well. I just got the house in Vernworth (after a rather messy arrest that took half my gold) awesome to hear that there’s other dynamics and systems around that.
They really have built something that feels as well engineered as a souls game without the punishing difficulty. I’m trying to ascertain weak spots on the various big monsters now. As a Monster Hunter fan, it’s cool seeing that type of mechanic in another Capcom game!
And yeah, they released a trailer at Summer Game Fest for a Dark Arisen expansion coming in October of this year. Looks pretty neat. I might be able to purchase a copy of this by then and jump in to that.
Bro affinity is major. Drastically lowers the vendor prices, they can have rare items added to the shop, and people leave you gifts at your house. Even a few quests can have different outcomes depending on the involved NPC affinities. Some quests are even locked behind having certain NPC at high affinity for the later game.
And oh hell yea! You have no idea how hyped I am to hear it's the Dark Arisen expansion.
Holy smokes. Thanks for the heads up! I’ll do some researching tomorrow and see how bad I’ve biffed so far not knowing about that.
Thanks again!
And I’ll be excited for dark arisen with ya despite not having any context.
Nothing story breaking, so not too much worry. The quests are just some filler stuff involved in romancing certain notable storyline characters. Extra dialogue is just fluff stuff but is nice that's it's a thing.
Those discounts and extra items though, that's some good shit.
As someone playing a copy borrowed form a library, I’m in for a good deal. Haha.
Also, I like hidden mechanics. Especially when they’re surfaced through conversation instead of gamefaqs. This one has made me miss the old bloodborne subreddit a little less. Thank you friend!
Thank you for the opportunity to gush about one of my favorite game series.
I'd recommend waiting for Skyblivion to release over Oblivion Remastered tbh. It's beta might be released this year
I liked Dragon Age Origins but I couldn’t figure out the ending. Difficulty ramps way up, it feels like you’re meant to lose the fight, but when you do it just starts the mission over. If the game has an ending I never found it, so I just quit and read Wikipedia.
Couldn’t get into the second one.
You can’t really talk about BioWare games without talking about Mass Effect though. The first one is kinda trash, but it sets up the story. The first one is also badly broken and it never got fixed. The Legendary Edition is the first three combined and it fixes most of the bullshit the first one was on. The fourth one was good too, but don’t pay for any online stuff. They still sell it despite the server shutdown years ago. Just buy the base game. First half is great, second half is nothing but fetch quests. I think it was also going to have romances and maybe a sex scene, but all I got was friend zoned by everyone. So I guess they ran out of budget there, too. Honestly the first half is great and it’s worth finishing, but it’s exactly like that meme with the horse drawing that goes from good to terrible. The ending was such a let down and they teased DLC that never came.
When I played Witcher 3 I remember immediately thinking Skyrim felt extremely dated. I would play any quest in W3 again before any quest in Skyrim.
But yeah, Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon is recent and supposed to be for Skyrim fans. Haven't played it yet.
Depends on what you like. I love Skyrim and hate the Witcher games. The thing that I hate the most about the Witcher games is that using a main character from books locks you into certain parts of the canon that kills my vibe from an RPG perspective. In particular, I don't care about Yennefer even a little bit but any time she shows up in the story, the main character throws away all prior decisions and chases after her. I prefer RPGs that let me imagine who my character is as much as possible.
Yeah, it's definitely not a drop-in replacement. But the Witcher 3 side quests are excellent, made the world feel alive in a way Elder Scrolls never did (to me). I think Skyrim is just so ambitious that the NPCs feel robotic in their inability to act appropriately, and it kills my immersion.
But I agree, idc about Yennifer or most of the main storyline. Basically the same for Skyrim too.
I agree with you on both points there. Skyrim NPCs are definitely a weak point and there was some good content in the side quests of the Witcher series.
But yeah, Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon is recent and supposed to be for Skyrim fans. Haven’t played it yet.
I don't know if I'd call it that. It's much more story-oriented than Skyrim's "here's a sandbox, figure things out, do stuff, oh, btw, there's technically some quests you can do too".
Skyblivion Coming out this year. I personally think morrowind was the high point in elder scrolls series scenario-wise but is aged very poorly. Patching and modding the hell out of it might be worthwhile. Nehrim is cool. Fallout new Vegas works well. Cyberpunk has already been mentioned several times.
There's also Skywind which is the same as Skyblivion, but Morrowind.
You.... You just made my day ❤️
It's not done yet, but it's very close.
RIP to my free time when that finally drops
Glad to help a fellow N'wah lover.
found cyberpunk to be too “thick” so much to look at or interact with is great and pretty but i got a lot of analysis paralysis
Have you played Enderal: Forgotten Stories?
No, I haven't tried it yet. I watched some videos, and it's amazing.
I came here to give you the Enderal Suggestion. Don't think, just play it. Its one of the best RPGs I've ever played. The first section can be a tad rough due to it being hars but once you get into the main city its only up from there. Highly suggest some kind of mage as they made the magic system very peak at high levels.
Oblivion.
I'll be the third person to mention Cyberpunk 2077. They genuinely perfected the Bethesda formula. I've put in hundreds of hours over half a dozen full playthroughs; it's absolutely exceptional.
I've 100 percented it pre dlc multiple times. I love preaching it's glories. I bought it day one, and played it on a rebuilt $30 ps4 slim. Had absolutely no glitches. No T poses,, no nothing.
I love and will fanboy cyberpunk 2077 till the day I die.
I've bounced off this game twice, the early PS4 disaster and another attempt admittedly before all the fixes.
I have a PS5 now, so maybe it's finally time to give it another try
It is. Easily one of the best games of all time.
Yeah it was a buggy mess for a good while, but it is such a great game now.
It definitely was.
Besides just the bugs back in the day, the nature of them was so drastically different between systems. I played at launch on PC, and even then I put ~100 hours into it. The bugs on the PC version were more gameplay/story based and less about performance. I think it was easily the most playable version at launch. Some of them were just funny and I remember giggling when a car would fly into the air or an NPC would t-pose. But I was able to progress and the game didn't run like dogshit.
Console versions depended heavily on which console. The PS4 (non-Pro) version probably just should never have existed. Downright unplayable mess.
But the turnaround really even rivals No Man's Sky's turnaround. It helps that the story in Cyberpunk was always pretty solid. I still wish there were more variation between character paths in the early game. That's really my only remaining gripe.
I went through the No Mans Sky turn around, and ended up loving the game. I always thought Cyberpunk would rock, given the team behind it.
You've convinced me that it's my next big play through.
Funny enough I just started playing No Man's Sky after bouncing off of it hard when it was fairly new. There is a LOT going on in the game now compared to near launch.
Avowed. The combat feels like an upgraded Skyrim, and the world exploring feels very similar. My only complaint was that the game was too short.
Rdr2 my friend, rdr2
Man I haven't played Skyrim since the Xbox 360 days on my CRT. Other Bethesda games I played recently were Fallout 4 and Starfield.
FO4 was disappointing and Starfield was fine but I never finished it
The VR version with a ton of mods lol
RDR2 and Cyberpunk. Although they are more linear roleplaying games than Skyrim's experimentation.
You need a lower dopamine threshold to make the most of those games, but they're a treat when you learn how to do that.
Tell me how to lower my dopamine threshold! As someone with ADHD I am absolutely addicted to dopamine and don't know how to quit. I try to dedicate one day a week to allow myself to be bored but it is beyond difficult to maintain any sort of habit when you have ADHD. I just want a steampunk game that's somewhat grounded in reality, set in an alternate past where the tech really works.
Have you tried amphetamines?
Yes and they raise the threshold. Can't take them because I get one day of functional bliss and then a week of misery after. Adderall is the worst drug I've ever tried for ADHD. The non-stimulants are no better because they do nothing at all.
Unfortunately Fallout: New Vegas is the only game I can think of that can top Skyrim. I know you wanted a newer game, but that's the best I can do.
Have you considered Cities Skylines II? It also scratches the same itch for me, and by that I mean that it has robust mod support and can be played forever without me ever getting bored of it.
Dude, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. with graphics mods! Or, of course, Cyberpunk 2077...
Not a fan Cyberpunk. There's literally nothing to do in that game outside of a mission. I want a game with heavy mod support where I can just wander around and bump into things to do. Cyberpunk is the exact opposite of that. It's basically a linear game disguised as an open world title.
I've tried a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game (don't remember which) but I was bored within 15 minutes. I will have to give the series a second chance.
Hmm, well, I'll find out as I play more C2077. I wonder if mods may help.
The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games should be played in order because there is an enemy whose explanation is chronological. There are quality-of-life mods in the sidebar of /r/stalker, which are essential for at least the first game. I would understand if you disliked it without such cleanups applied.
I don't know if it's quite in the same category but I'm playing baldur's gate 3 at the moment and really enjoying it. I'd definitely recommend that.
Echoing what others said about the Witcher 3. I have over 1500 hours into both games. Skyrim is great if you like open world games with minimal storyline and just want to explore. Witcher 3 is very story heavy, but you can also just spend hours and hours ignoring the story and exploring the world. There's quests and random little treasures and easter eggs hidden everywhere. In the Witcher you can climb up a mountain in the middle of nowhere and come across a treasure chest or a skeleton with a book of poetry, or wander through the wilderness far away from any map markers and stumble into a side quest or an interesting place to explore. It's also just heartbreakingly beautiful.
The story does follow the events of the books and the first two games and is more enjoyable if you have experienced them, but the first time I played I hadn't yet read the books or played the other games and it still stole my heart and became my favorite game. You might not fully understand the politics or the characters or the choices you're asked to make for certain supporting side quests, but there's a good journal where you can read everyone's backstories and all the information you need for choices regarding the main quest is in the game.
You could try the remake of gothic 1 thst released last week. Thats not such a vast open world, but still a very nice RPG.
Kcd2.
Crimson Desert
isn't that the AI game
Edit: yep. AI artwork used in development then left in the final release lmao
Keep an eye out for updates on Skywind, soon you'll be able to play Morrowind in Skyrim. They're excitingly close to finishing, after a long road.
Enderal. Which is... a skyrim mod. Although calling it a mod does it a disservice, it's a whole new game.
If you want the same world building and hadn't given it a try, Elder Scrolls Online is still great, can be acquired for cheap (even the base game has a lot of content), and be played almost fully solo!
If you didn't mind the "floatiness" of Skyrim Combat, ESO is great, has a lot of world building and exploration, can be quite immersive at times, and basically has the look of a modded Oblivion.
I spent a good 400h on it, mostly on lore discovery, main and side quests, and farming not for equipment but to get furniture for my house! (and if I recall I still didn't reach the max level, not a pro-player).
I never played it as an MMORPG, but more as a coop RPG while still playing solo most of the time. So I can't judge on the quality of the MMO aspects (though the cyrodil constant battle system is quite fun and intense).
I loved Skyrim, considering going back to that well soon. I'm on my 3rd playthrough of cyberpunk 2077, I've embarrassingly got 470 hours on that game. I feel like those 2 games are somewhat similar, 1st person open world, player choices have some effect on the game but not much, character customization is a lot of fun, side quests galore, lots of lore, tons of mods, etc.. cyberpunk had serious troubles when it first came out but at this point it's a solid game. I recommend giving it a try
Deoends if you want to stay in the fantasy setting. Cyberpunk will give you that same type of feeling but just in the sci-fi genre.
Might sound weird but maybe STALKER. They're both older, very charming but very janky open world RPGs, and both have immense modding scenes that have created an experience greater than the sum of its parts.
I can't think of anything that fully scratches the same itch. There are a lot of games that do certain things better than Skyrim, and everyone here has already recommended them. But Skyrim really nailed that immersive sim vibe. It didn't just feel like a game I wanted to play, it is one I want to inhabit and keep coming back to.
Oddly, the closest thing I could think of that scratches a similar, but not same, itch would be farming sims like Stardew Valley or something.
Even the graphics evoked real life better than photorealism. It was truly a gem
Skyrim has so many talented modders. It can really transform your game and give you entirely new stories.
I still miss my first playthrough of oblivion. We should be able to combine the games if they can build a data center the size of Manhattan
I was literally talking with a coworker about this last night. Like, skyrim has all of Tamriel in it outside the playable area. Why did they not just add each province one after another as playable area. Could have sold us dozens of game sized dlc to sandbox. What wasted potential.
Why do that when they can re-release the same game for 15 years instead?
I just tried to imagine what happens with their engine if you try to add the rest of Tamriel, running thousands of buggy scripts and systems at the same time. My mental simulation concluded with the result that it would be very funny, but probably not playable.
Though there are a lot of games with the same themes and openness, I have never found anything that really fills the feeling quite the same as a Bethesda game. Save one: Deus Ex. The original one.
Thank you all for the recommendations. May the Dragonborn's luck be with you.
To throw in a couple more too consider, alongside the other great recommendations.
If you don't mind it being different, you should check out Divinity Original Sin and it's sequel, and also Baldurs Gate 3. Turn based and squad combat with an isometric view, might be a bit too much of a departure from Skyrim. But it does offer a lot of depth and systems, with a fantastic world to explore and experience.
I've tried Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but that game has no magic and no grand adventure. I don't really like it.
KC:D is a very good game, but it's very different, if you go in wanting something like Skyrim you'll be sorely disappointed. But when you are willing to play a slow, but deep RPG, it's a very fun game.
I really couldn't get into that game. The fact that you had to literally go through quite a bit to get your character to learn to read really put me off. I know it gets better, great even, but I just couldn't get into it.
Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon
For some reason I can’t get into Bethesda games. I’ve tried numerous times but they aren’t for me. I guess I find open world rpgs to be really boring for some reason. Even though I like looter shooters/Diablo clones. Which is a similar genre but more focused on getting da loot.
The new Gothic remake.
Time to take off those training wheels and experience a real RPG.
If you need the bells and whistles of modern RPGs though then try Tainted Grail: Fall of Avalon.
Time to take off those training wheels and experience a real RPG.
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Just played it and it was alot of fun. Loved walking to the swamp. And i remember the times walking to new camp and then back to old camp. And who can forgot going to the mine. And then back out of the mine. And then to the new mine, and then back out to finish the quest for the guy in new mine, and then going back in all the way into the deepest part again to finish that quest.
Yes, there is a lot of walking. No fast travel or any other modern handicaps. That's what I love about it.
Yeah it wasnt the worst, but it did take up alot of the play through even after getting the mount
Guessing you never made much use of the transformation spell scrolls? You can get those pretty early and even start crafting them if you are thoroughly doing things.
Even if you're not investing in magic a scavenger scroll is only 5 mana. Why have a mount when you can just become the mount?
They are great for traveling and scouting. Other creatures even ignore you for the most part.
nah i went full melee except the initial 5 mana, and didn't even use my scrolls until late game, with the meatbug. I had so many extra levels after the first sleeper temple that i started going mage but then the game ended.
Money and skills were a premium most of the game so spends either on scrolls would've been wasteful just to shave off a little travel time.
I've never had an issue with ore. From stealing, flipping goods strategically, and pushing rolls in New Camp and selling harvests to Cipher, I'm always pretty flush.
Hell, as a warrior you could have just flipped the daily rations from Swamp Camp for scavenger scrolls since you didn't need em.
for breathtaking landscapes I would say elden ring. although style of play is waaayyyyy different.
I miss games like skyrim...
I had a ton of fun with Dragon's Dogma 2. The quests are kind of basic, but the combat is incredible and the traversal is actually compelling.
They do very interesting mechanics with the open world, too.
There's the older elder scrolls games, or Dread Delusion which is a spiritual successor to Morrowind. There's mods that change Skyrim up like ordinator. There's not much thats really like Skyrim.
Dread Delusion which is a spiritual successor to Morrowind.
Is it really? That's very debatable.
Crimson Desert's pretty damn good.
Denuvo tho. that's what's kept me away. hopefully one day they'll dump that garbage
The entire time playing Crimson Desert I have the feeling: "this is Skyrim, but better".
Including the ability to steal everything not nailed down.
And with multiple playable characters!
Gotta be more specific. What about Skyrim are you seeking elsewhere?
I still haven't played through Skyrim.
I really liked Assassin's Creed Odyssey
Not the same, but a very fun game
I also like Ghost of Tsushima, but if anything it's even less like Skyrim
Idk but you better tell me you find one!
I’m tried a lot of the games mentioned in the comment. Many are good, but none of them scratches that Skyrim itch.
Depending on what aspects you like about Skyrin, Dread Delusion scratches the same "getting lost in a very interesting setting" itch. It's Open World as well.
Avowed can probably fit the bill but not quite as big I think.
Yeah, it's definitely less sand-boxy than Skyrim but I think it's in the same vein.
There's definitely a few playthroughs to be had with the different classes and NG+.
The witcher 3 is pretty good as well. A bit more story driven and less open world but there are several playstyles and a pretty alive world to explore.
Does it have to be sword&sorcery? Cyberpunk 2077 tickles the same things for me. It's not necessarily as big or open, but theres still plenty to do, see and quest.
I am in a same boat as you, and there isn't really anything on consoles that comes close. I am a patient gamer though, and haven't played some of the suggestions mentioned here yet.
Witcher 3 is a very good game, I loved playing it and the expansions, had lots of fun, but it isn't Skyrim. It is still a game you should play though, and depending on what you liked about Skyrim, you may end up liking Witcher 3 much more.
Fallout games come close, character building is different, the world is different, the setting (sci-fi, not fantasy) is different, but it is probably the games that come closest to Skyrim.
People here have mentioned Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, I haven't played either, but I have played Red Dead Redemption 1, and this is a completely different game. It's GTA in Wild West, a very good game, but nothing like Skyrim. Cyberpunk 2077 can be a good option, it's by same devs as Witcher 3, and they know how to make a good RPG and I know people who swear by it. So definitely worth a try.
There are currently a few games in development, that seem to capture the Skyrim feel from the trailers, but we will have to wait for the release and review.
There might be some games on PC, maybe smaller in scope but still capturing the same feeling, but I haven't explored those yet.
A lot of posts here with things that are thematically similar and open world.
I personally bounce between Skyrim and Fallout 4 a lot. I'd give 'A Storywealth' collection on nexus a play.
Completely different environment, but the Yakuza games are very rich and interesting
I feel like Skyrim is gonna become the next OG Doom.
Depends on exactly what about Skyrim drew you in? Do you want to be immersed in a fantasy world? The ability to roleplay a certain kind of character? Have distinct builds?
Because if you like an engaging, living open world there are so many games that do it so much better than Skyrim. The Witcher 3 comes to mind, but you’re stuck playing a specific guy with a specific personality and allegiance.
As far as roleplaying experiences go, Baldurs Gate 3 is unsurpassed if you want to roleplay a certain type of character and have people/the world react to the flavor of your character. But that’s a turn based combat game not an action one.
Skyrim in comparison never hooked me because unlike other RPGs and even its own predecessors, the game is so afraid of locking you out of content and giving you a reason to replay it, that you can sorta do everything, join every faction, and do whatever you want with little to no consequences to your actions or the world changing to those choices at all.
Skyoblivion should release sometime this year, fan made project they have bewn working on for many years. Worth checking out!
Elden Ring but its a little more difficult.
As a huge fan of Skyrim, I absolutely hated Elden ring. It's Skyrim with better combat and everything else removed basically. I understand it's a good game but it's nothing like it.
They might play differently but you have to admit they are similar genre. Even mods to try and port content from one to the other https://youtu.be/ed6kKLd3Fso?is=DGeaMHn5XSCdeeFv
Breath of the Wild
Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom can be really hit or miss for people because of the durability system (I don't mind it, myself), however their sense of exploration and discovery outshine Skyrim imho.
As a huge Zelda fan and huge Skyrim fan I do wish botw had a bit more RPG-style leveling and survival to it, but I guess that's just kinda reinventing Skyrim though and not really what LoZ is aiming for.
But I agree, in terms of exploration and discovery it's second to none!
Random question unrelated to the post: There's a brand new account, cattywampus, (u instead of a) also posting this morning. Is that an official alt or is someone trying to impersonate you? Just wondering if I should report them or not.
It's not me, and I doubt it's someone trying to impersonate me. Probably just somebody else who also likes the word catawampus.
Fair enough and was assuming it was something more unique lol
Having multiple accounts on separate instances has benefits (get to interact with more instances). Even if they were the same person, that wouldn't be against any TOS like it is on reddit.
Outward is fun. Reminds me of playing a heavily modded Skyrim gameplay wise
The Bloodline has been on my list for a while. I haven't grabbed it yet due to time, but it looks fun.
It's quite fun, but very much a work in progress by a single dev. I am not saying don't give it a try, just know what you're getting into and have patience.
As rich and interesting as Skyrim? Turn over a rock and find any number of open world games that can match or exceed it.
As moddable as Skyrim? Now that's a taller order...
I'd love a "Ghosts of Tamriel" game, set far beyond the time of Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim. It would be set in a steampunk era in the same world, where magic is still a thing, potions are more chemistry than herbalism, and you have the steampunk tech to work with. The different lands of Tamriel could be traveled among freely, each one with a slightly different steampunk theme... One western, one urban, one agrarian/rural/wild.
I want all of that except no magic or potions. The whole magic/wizardry aspect of Skyrim is why I prefer Fallout.
The Oblivion remake gave me the Skyrim vibes. Naturally it is a precursor to Skyrim, but still fun!
Best advice I can give you is to just play Bethesdas other games, with maybe the exceptions of Fallout 4, Starfield, and Arena. Daggerfall has a Unity mod that makes it playable and Morrowind has OpenMW that makes it play nice with newer systems also Oblivion got a remaster a bit ago. The biggest problem with making suggestions past this point is that Bethesda struck gold and folks have been chasing it for over a decade with little success but I'll give you a list of maybes.
The original fallout Duology.
Arcanum.
Outward.
Kenshi.
The S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
Mass Effect Trilogy.
Dragon Age, but only Origins and Inquisition.
Now for my probably not but I like them so here's some suggestions list.
Colony Ship.
Age of Decadence.
Dark souls 1 and 3.
Atomfall was a decent apocalypse style game not from Bethesda.
I've heard mixed reviews from other guys who share close opinions with me on games so I've generally avoided it. The consensus amongst said friend group is more or less good but not what any of us want.
Yeah, it's a decent stealth shooter, but not really comparable to an RPG like fallout
Yeah not my cup of tea, I like stealth games where the focus may be stealth but I can go loud if I want or when I fuck up. I find Thief boring even if it's objectively a good game but I love Dishonored and probably put hundreds of hours into the PS3 version.
Kenshi! Best sandbox game ever.
10/10 would be sold into slavery again.
Skyblivion is coming out soon. Not better tech but it's still exciting
I can't get it to run without skipping frames, but there's the Gate to Sovngarde mod pack that supposedly completely changes the game.
Daggerfall?
I am probably the biggest Daggerfall fan in the world, but I still probably wouldn't recommend it to almost than is a fan of the modern games in the series.
Red Dead Redemption 2 may not be the exact vibe you're looking for since it's western instead of fantasy, but goddamn is it a great game. Rich and interesting open world packed with things to find and do, unbelievable attention to detail, immaculate vibes of being out in the wilderness.
BotW has significantly better open world exploration and puzzles but much weaker towns.
What platform are you gaming on?
I would suggest The legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild.
Even if you hate Shitendo (like I am) there are ways to play it on other platforms
Death Stranding
Breath of the Wild
Gothic Remake
Gothic Remake
Zelda botw and totk
I played it for a few hours and stopped. Extremely boring
maybe Days Gone
Zombie hordes and motorcycles in an open world. Feels kind of like Far Cry 3/4/5.
The Witcher series is probably the closest one
Also, World of Warcraft. Sure, it's an MMO, not a regular RPG, but you can complete it entirely on your own, and you'll get a rich and vibrant world full of enough stories to keep you there for thousands of hours. In fact, I would advise you to start with the Classic version - a remake of 2004 World of Warcraft - so as not to get overwhelmed with content, before heading into newer ones.
Also, if you truly insist on solo/coop play, things like AzerothCore allow you to host a private World of Warcraft server for yourself and/or friends.
No.
The only game I've had Skyrim vibes from is Elden Ring
Lol what
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I wouldn't even say they're the same genre, let alone similar games.
"I want to try something newer, with better technology" this is where you are wrong little guy(i use guy in gender neutral), in most cases for games its usually better to try something older. you want a genuine rich first person RPG? play morrowind, detailed character creation, huge sandbox and you can just make your own story in it, just don't use the iron dagger if your character isn't proficient with it, its an rpg, if your character is bad at something the combat will really show it.
Hogwarts legacy is pretty sick. But yeah, witcher 3 has dlc this year and witcher 4 next. Pretty sick.
Give Deep Rock Galactic a try
ROCK AND STONE! oT
This game is overrated beyond belief, play more games.
Apparently you are in the very secretive "in the know" order of better games than Skyrim. Maybe initiate OP by actually being helpful?
Apparently, being helpful and making a suggestion doesn't work either...
OP asked for pizzeria suggestions and you offered a Chinese restaurant.
Post Title: "I still can't get over Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it?"
Post Description: "I still can’t get over The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. Are there any games that can replace it? I want to try something newer, with better technology, but I hope they can be as rich and interesting as Skyrim."
OP asked for suggestions for new games to try, I gave them one. What's the problem? There are plenty of games that are as "rich and interesting" as skyrim.
So, "Don't be secretive", but also, "Don't make suggestions"?
This is such a dumb comment, especially here, that it's actually funny.
Oh noes! I'm so scared of the Skyrim fanbase, whatever shall I do sir??
Having fun?