Oh. In the US.
American defaultism strikes again.
Just hang on a bit longer, the world will be describing their weight in stones and spelling things with "OU" instead of "O" in no time.
Absolutely no developments in American policing have trickled down anywhere else ever. You're safe.
The meme is about the origin of the police
The earliest documented organized police force was established in 7 BC under Roman Emperor Augustus, known as the Cohortes Urbanae, to keep peace on the streets of Rome.
I agree with the sentient, modern police is highly problematic… but for accuracy sake history is more complex and not all police originated the same way.
American slave patrols where a precursor to southern policing. Northern policing was modeled after London police (with its own oppressive closet skeletons)
But the concept of policing is much older.
Paris had a Lieutenant général de police during louis 14
The ancient romance had the vigiles who kept watch at night and where also firefighters. And tresviri to handle prisons and executions.
Ancients greek and egypt supposedly had public order squads made of slave-archers.
All state oppression is bad but i keep seeing this s
Lemmy understanding global nuance instead of latching on to a hyperbolic, simplistic, and USA-centric view of something they heard from a comment and didn't bother to do any research on before accepting it as true? Impossible.
American slave patrols where a precursor to southern policing. Northern policing was modeled after London police (with its own oppressive closet skeletons)
Fugitive slave patrols, strike-breaking Pinkertons... same difference!
It's State oppression until some savage burglarizes your place.
2% of society are just these types of people who are only kept in check by some sort of authority.
When my house got burgled, a cop came to write a report for insurance and fuck-all else. The perp was never caught and I never got any stuff back (aside from insurance payout). The police involvement was entirely pointless and could've been abolished with zero negative effect.
Not saying they aren't useful for anything, but you picked a spectacularly bad example.
When a savage burglarizes your place, cops show up, take a couple of pics, make you sign a report and little else.
I love your username. Told it to some friends today while tripping (referring to the old photo from back in early 2000's), and they loved it. Such a random coincidence to have literally mentioned your username today, when I haven't uttered the words in years.
Yeah, and in Britain we first used the police as a force to occupy Ireland, it's all rotten.
Not even close to being true. Policing in Britain pre-dates 1066, while the first statutory police organisation dates from 1611 in Edinburgh. The first full-time police force were the Bow Street Runners in 1749.
I was referring specifically the Peace Preservation act and the founding of the Irish Constabulary both the result of Robert Peel and which he would use as the templaye for the met in 1829, the Irish constabulary is literally the oldest police constabulary in the UK.
I might not be entirely correct, but a little rude to suggest that I was "Not even close to being true."
It was not by any means the oldest constabulary. As I mentioned, the constabulary in Edinburgh pre-dates the RIC by more than 200 years. The Thames River Police and City of Glasgow Police were both formed in 1800.
It would be odd for the RIC to form the prototype for the Met seeing as it was formed 8 years after it. Before the RIC, over 180 police forces had been formed in England and Wales, chiefly under the # Municipal Corporations Act 1835
Likely the Romans were the first recorded people policing Briton.
In ancient Greece, publicly owned slaves were used by magistrates as police.
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In Babylonia, law enforcement tasks were initially entrusted to individuals with military backgrounds or imperial magnates during the Old Babylonian period, but eventually, law enforcement was delegated to officers known as paqūdus, who were present in both cities and rural settlements. A paqūdu was responsible for investigating petty crimes and carrying out arrests.
In ancient Egypt evidence of law enforcement exists as far back as the Old Kingdom period. There are records of an office known as "Judge Commandant of the Police" dating to the fourth dynasty. During the fifth dynasty at the end of the Old Kingdom period, warriors armed with wooden sticks were tasked with guarding public places such as markets, temples, and parks, and apprehending criminals. …
all from easily accessible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police
slow clap got em. Damn you're clever.
All the police forces?
Not the einsatzgrupen. Theyre clean. I don't know exactly what they did, but their lineage is slavery-free, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, they used to call them "slave catchers" back then
The difference between slave catchers and modern cops is that slave catchers were obligated to return the “property” to the slave owners in reasonable working condition. Now that everyone is “free”, cops can execute them in the streets, get a paid vacation, and on the off chance the family wins a wrongful death it’s on the taxpayers to cover that cost.
Got sources?
I'm assuming he's talking about early law enforcement as a precursor to modern policing. Slave patrols were often publically funded. Some localities were organized a bit more like the Pinkertons who also took bounties by tracking escaped slaves across state borders.
Ah, so up until 1619 there were no police. Got it.
Not what I said. I just gave a source for what OP was most likely saying, which is "the modern police got its origins in capturing escaped enslaved people"
America is the only country on Earth.
You sound so dumb right now.
Why do this? You're not being clever. We all know you're pretending to be ignorant to make bad faith arguments. There's just the one joke over and over again. I don't get it.
Because if op likes to spread lies, why take it seriously?
Instead if asking why you don't understand someone poking fun at a source, perhaps wonder what they are poking.
Pretty sure you're just a bad faith copagandist, I'm just wondering why bother?
"Hitler ate babies"
"Wtf, no he didn't"
"A-ha, you're defending Hitler, you're a nazi!"
Mentioning something existed before op claims they did is copaganda? You will have to break that one down mate.
Would you actually read them?
Yes, neptar did provide some.
What did you think about them? The various institutions that split and merged to become modern policing?
Op never mentioned modern policing, just police as a general term.
So so as usual I poked that the police existed before the the first known record of slave catching in 1612ish.
Credible sources?
Depends what's credible, officer.
It's a very Americancentric view. As someone pointed out, policing is a very old concept from Louis 14th. But if I'm not mistaken, the British Metropolitan Police is the first modern police force that we would identify as one today when it was first established in 1829.
Also patrollers which became paterollers or pattyrollers. There is an old time banjo tune called paterollers that carries the sense of being chased. It's typically played in sawmill tuning which always casts a sad quality. The faster you play it the better it sounds.
Edited because it keeps autocorrecting 😡
Normy catchers
Op is slowly realizing why 
will never revolt.🥲
It's so beautiful to see in action why refuse to turn a new page in it's slavery industry.
Now see how they react when you tell’m they got to demolish slave catcher departments at every city!🤭