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Firefox privacy project Arkenfox is EoL, potentially impacting Librewolf & Phoenix

3d 21h ago by lemdro.id/u/computler in privacy@lemmy.ml from github.com

Addon enjoyers, is this our last stand?

LibreWolf won't be impacted, they're already considering to move to Phoenix instead.

Phoenix: https://codeberg.org/celenity/Phoenix

LibreWolf issue: https://codeberg.org/librewolf/issues/issues/2823

Phoenix is also used by IronFox.

Phoenix is also an alternative which can be used with Vanilla Firefox.

Since the author edited the title, Phoenix, according to the credits does not rely on Arkenfox at all.

This is the good news, thank you

Oh good was hoping people were jumping the gun

I am not seeing any explanation as to why. Is the developer just quitting for personal reasons or something?

Im assuming its becoming increasingly work intensive to remove all the bloat from firefox. Maybe they are just not vibing with that.

I really hope someone else decides to pick up the torch.

That is mainly why I ask. The dev's comments there are worded in such a way that they seem to imply that the project has just reached its logical conclusion and that it is just obvious that development needs to end. But I am not seeing anything that actually indicates that the project has to end other than this dev just wanting to quit or something. In which case, yes, I think some other dev would be able to pick it up.

I believe they are claiming that with the new discoveries it's pointless to keep trying. Whether that's shared with other devs or not probably won't affect their decision:

These three bugs basically ruin the whole point of arkenfox: // sec bugs: offscreencanvas / preconnect / cookie_exceptions

I'm not that familiar with them, but sounds like there's no way to keep a sane balance between usability and privacy, and clearly upstream doesn't help a bit, it's like following the Borg advice "resistance is futile". Battling the privacy fight is not an easy fight I guess. The only hope for those who are non experts as the arkenfox guys is that phoenix keeps up the good work. Overall I pretty much prefer arkenfox over phoenix, but fortunately Librewolf is neither arkenfox nor phoenix, even though they are discussing if they are better based of phoenix the are different projects making different decisions...

I wish frozen fennec didn't die on the attempt, :( The current option is ironfox on LOS/AOSP based/..., and I don't agree with several of their decisions. The amount of filter lists is so stubbornly huge, that there's no time to deselect and/or remove them on low end phones for example, and the whole thing just slow things down. And I know it's picky but I really like decisions like taking bad things off from build time if possible, even if they are opt-in... Any ways, to me it's sad to see them closing the project, but I'm also hopeful some others as expert as they were on several of the topics they dealt with will fill up some of the the hole when they stop...