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Anthropic's bizarre call for everyone to slow down on AI is a pipe dream

3d 5h ago by reddthat.com/u/throws_lemy in fuck_ai from www.techradar.com

It can also be a "pulling up the ladder behind them."

They're at the top, so now they want to have regulatory bodies that of course should be made of "industry leaders" to implement "regulations". Regs that just happen to make it impossible to hold them to account and all but impossible to compete with them.

See the US softwood lumber lobby. They have had a 40+ year goal of getting unfettered access to Canadian(specifically BC) trees. So despite getting billions in US gov aid every year, the BC gov wanting to maintain old logging roads as trails is "illegally aiding the industry"

I think you are right, but regardless of the anti free market bullshit they are trying, deepseek is going to eat their lunch.

Even if the deepseek frontier model is 12 months behind anthropic, it will be "good enough" soon and cost pennies.

I get the fear of "china bad" for maybe the us government applications, but the us government and corporations are already stealing our data so I don't really fear the Chinese government at a personal level, in Louisiana

Yeah, the CCP is still going to catch up to them and when they move to cut R&D for profit, will pass them.

The car industry is proof of that.

The "CCP" didn't catch up with and surpass the US market in electric vehicles, Chinese engineers and industrialists did. BYD, Xiaomi, Zeekr, Great Wall, etc. etc. etc. are not branches of government. I mean sure, government industrial policy was there, but it was there in the USA as well (and is a huge proportion of Kaptain Ketamine's "personal" wealth). It's just that American companies are addicted now to government protectionism and forgot how to compete by price, by innovation, etc. while BYD was inventing world-class battery technology and vertical integration (that is for some reason anathema to American business practice).

The People's Liberation Army directs huge amounts of industrial development, just like the Pentagon does in the US, and probably equally corruptly.

Sure. Just like how Huawei has no connection to the CCP?

Same as Texaco and Reagan, Raytheon and Bush, SpaceX and Trump.

Do you think the world doesn't see the corruption in all the above?

For the record I would rather Merica and China fight to the death so the rest of the world can get a break.

And leave your hands away from Cuba and Taiwan.

Thats a stupid argument, if you're making it as a point "USA companies are not influenced by USA government and don't suck its dick".

Oracle, Microsoft, Amazon, Google are large companies known to be regulated by the USA government and to spy on its behalf (e. g. Cloud act, PRISM). Add communications like Verizon and AT&T for domestic (bulk data handovers, see Snowden).

You understand that the very use of "CCP" pretty much marks you as someone completely and utterly ignorant of anything other than Faux News and US government propaganda, right?

How 'bout you come back with this fancy thing called "evidence" of Huawei's "connection" to the Chinese government that—and this is the important bit here, Sparky!—can't be equivalently applied to almost every major US firm vis a vis the US government? (Hint: this is not possible. American companies are as balls-deep in American government trade policy and even military/espionage hooks as Chinese firms are in Chinese government trade and military/espionage policy.)

"Oh no, our software is so awesome because it's too powerful, we must be stopped, don't click on the subscribe button!"

It reminds me of the PlayStation that was so good it could create nuclear weapons. Yeah, right...

Well, if you're old enough to remember that, you're also old enough to remember they did create the PS3 super cluster not long thereafter.

https://www.military.com/off-duty/games/2023/02/17/air-force-built-one-of-worlds-fastest-computers-out-of-playstations.html

(Would have likely kept at it too if Sony hadn't nerfed Linux on PS3 with firmware patch)

There's usually a grain of truth to these things, IMHO. I doubt Fable was going to become the next paperclip maximizer, but obviously there's increasing risk with increasing capability.

https://cybersecuritynews.com/hacker-uses-claude-and-chatgpt-to-breach/

Could this whole thing be some admixture of truth, bullshit, PR and politics? 99.999%. Still, let's not pretend it's not an emerging issue.

300% market manipulation

Oh come on, they know that. They don’t want to slow it down. They want to keep on profiting and raking in the free money.

But whenever something bad happens, whatever it is, they can point to them saying this and go ‘see we told ya’. It’s bullshit, they’re just creating a ‘get out of jail free’ card for themselves. Or so they’re hoping.

What free money? They are very much under a lot of debt, and that is before their financials are fully open.

The free money that investors keep inexplicably throwing at them. To personally profit their companies don't have to profit.

I think they're running out of money and want to make a virtue out of slowing down.

The curve they promised was exponential is actually logarithmic, that's the core problem.

yup, same as the pull back of Fable