Every single day around here
3d 1h ago by lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/alsaaas in leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/48165009
People on this platform want to be victims so bad. There's more posts about people complaining about other people complaining about them then there actually is.
Liberals thinking they're part of the left because reactionaries hate them. Surprise, I don't like them either just for different reasons?
Liberals thinking they’re part of the left because their fellow reactionaries hate them.
Fixed that for you.
I'd wager most leftists were liberals before becoming leftists.
So this may convert some new brethren!
Welcome aboard! Fill this glass bottle with gasoline and pass it on.
I’d wager most leftists were liberals before becoming leftists.
Well, every person born in the west (and most other parts of the world these days) gets drenched in either liberal and/or fascist ideology (or, more usually, a combination of both) from birth... so that's not exactly a risky wager on your part.
Mix it with oil or styrophor if you want it to burn longer
They aren't independent of each other.
Context?
Any of the anarchist meme communities on lemmy
Agreed, if you consider anarchist leftist and not closet-libertarians
Is this even in question? Anarchism quite clearly fits within the sphere of libertarian ideas.
The weird part is thinking that's a bad thing or somehow incompatible with leftism.
Yeah, but they also complain about liberals funnily enough.
Who doesn't, honestly? If there's one thing people of all political stripes can agree on it's that liberals are annoying.
They are liberals, that's why it's funny.
liberal from an economic sense or a philosophical sense? there's a difference
I suppose both. They don't believe in a government to control the economy/prevent exploitation.
i got lost in this thread and thought you were saying anarchists were liberals. nevermind
I was.
Liberals are people against government control. Anarchists are against governments making them the most liberal of people.
That's literally what it means, go read a book.
Alright then 🙄
- French anarcho-communists invent the synonym "libertarian"
- US fascists locally co-opt the word to obfuscate the inseparable nature of capital and state
- Person on explicitly leftist forums vibe checks that by "anachist" you didn't mean "libertarian"
I'm tired, boss 😂
...what kind of definition of libertarian do you have, that anarchists aren't included in it?
Edit: There are non-leftist anarchists, like the whole post-left thing, but I have a feeling that's not what you mean
Anarchists are libertarian revolutionary socialists, WTF?
Anarchist is considered libertarian left, while what we typically call Libertarian is libertarian right. Yes, Anarchist is libertarian, but with an emphasis on the welfare of people, while libertarian right is usually about the freedom of businesses to exploit the people.
It's always the most rancid take from a .world account.
Absolute losers over in .world, amirite?
Seriously
Agreed
It just has the toxic "intellectual" redditors since that's the instance that was recommended most, but it's not the majority of the users, just the highest concentration of them.
Good.
If they weren't it would essentially mean we've lost all relevance.
You seem to be thinking how a nationalist (or transnationalist if you simp for the EU) chauvinist liberal...
I'm not even from the USA lol, literally from Europe.
The EU is a union of financial capital and a bastion of it's own reactionary neo-colonialism and imperialism...
Also you don't sound like a socialist TBH
Hearing the word "reactionary" from a self-proclaimed leftist is a red flag, because it's used the same way right-wingers use "woke". Basically most can't define it without looking it up, or explain how it applies to what they're critiquing.
Hearing the word “reactionary” from a self-proclaimed leftist is a red flag,
Oh my good lord... where the fuck do you liberals get this kind of garbage from? PragerU?
Actually based on simple observation, like the fact that I'm seemingly the only one here who has defined "reactionary".
I’m seemingly the only one here who has defined “reactionary”.
And since when do you get to "define" terms that you obviously don't understand?
I've yet to see any evidence that you know what a reactionary is.
Read carefully, shitlib... try to keep up.
Since when do you get to “define” terms that you obviously do not understand?
You're using "reactionary" the same way right wingers use "woke", but you can't admit that. But you also can't provide a definition, because then the label becomes testable.
You’re using “reactionary” the same way right wingers use “woke”,
Again... where the fuck do you shitlibs get this kind of inane garbage from? Ben Shapiro? Jordan Peterson, perhaps?
Given that I'm the only one here who can define "reactionary", I'm the only real leftist here.
Educate yourself, please: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
Given that I’m the only one
So you actually read all that and you still don't have the foggiest clue what it is you are talking about?
What's the matter, shitlib? Don't you like it that we have terms for people like you?
I clearly have more of a clue than you.
Does being called a reactionary by actual leftists make you want to cry, shitlib?
You're not a leftist.
So that's a yes?
Have you ever tried not being such a REACTIONARY, shitlib?
Have you ever tried reading a book, lumpenprol?
Are you crying, shitlib?
Are you crying because I called you, an obvious shitlib right-wing REACTIONARY, exactly that which you are - a shitlib right-wing REACTIONARY?
Loser.
Oh, look... the obvious right-wing shitlib REACTIONARY who came on here to pretend they weren't a right-wing shitlib REACTIONARY is sore because somebody on here called them a right-wing shitlib REACTIONARY.
Crawl back to whatever liberal brain-trust sent you here and tell them how mean us radicals were to you because we didn't fall for your crappy, pretend-left REACTIONARY schtick, okay?
Loser.
Better a loser than a REACTIONARY loser, eh shitlib?
Loser
Stop being such a sore loser, shitlib.
Instead, why don't you tell me what it actually is you thought you were going to accomplish here?
Long story. I'll tell you tomorrow. Goodnight.
Okay, so basically, I'm worried about death. Like, what happens after you die? Is there an afterlife, and so on. Have you listened to "Seele Mein" by Eisregen?
Okay, so basically, I’m worried about death.
Have you ever tried not worrying about death?
It's surprising how inane your comments are. Sort of amusing, though.
Why don't you stop fucking around, and tell me what it actually is you thought you were going to accomplish here?
You're like a poor version of Elon Musk.
Still a sore loser?
Suit yourself, I guess.
Loser.
Projection isn't going to help you.
It's common knowledge for every socialist TBH
A reactionary is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. Which us not something the EU is trying to do.
In the socialist/Marxist context it's used differently just FYI
Then what does it mean?
Someone who opposes either an established socialist revolution or is actively defending the capitalist system (e.g. through institutionalized violence, legislation or direct violence through military actions etc. etc.)
Does defending a capitalist system through legislation refer to all legislation aimed to defend the system, e.g. ban on firearms, or just legislation that singles out socialist movements?
I'm assuming institutionalized violence refers to extralegal violence and/or bias in how the law is applied, by disproportionately targeting socialist groups, while turning a blind eye to other groups?
structural violence is more of the idea that all of the wealth that has been accumulated throughout the millenia has been done first with the sword, then with the lance, then with the gun, and of lately, with the bomb. if we ceased all military action of all kinds tomorrow, the intrinsic status quo would be one reflective of a racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic class based hierarchy. in order to challenge that status quo we can't tolerate anyone who prevents us from challenging these underlying inequitable hegemonies by disrupting the solidarity of the working people.
Dae tankie bad?
Okay, please educate me...
Aren't liberals left wing? As in, to the left of the political center? In Canada our Liberal government is considered to be center left. Just how much is debatable, but left.
(neo)liberalism is the political center (for all of the west, atleast for now but it stands on shaky legs), center left is for example social democracy and center right would be christian democracy.
Well damn. I'll look into this further later today when I'm not at work, but I honestly believed that liberals were center left with Tory conservatives being center right.
If you have any links to informative articles I'd appreciate them. Never too old to learn things.
No.
Depends on who you ask really. According to the classical definition leftism begins at anti-capitalism. According to the mainstream, the left begins at government social programs. (srry if i made any typos)
This is what the liberal brain thinks the left really believe
Not the average leftist, yes, but there is a sizeable number of people with strange beliefs...
Liberal memes: “Actually the leftists are worse because they don’t want us to be able to get rich even though I said I’m ok with gay people”
wat ._.