Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal
2d 5h ago by lemmy.world/u/Some_Emo_Chick in technology from variety.com
This is the same Fox that owns Fox News. So now Roku's advertising push can include a side of misinformation.
Side?
Okay, okay.. the entire goddamn buffet AND the drinks from the bar.
Don't forget the sundae bar.
I was just at my father in laws house and he has roku, it already does that. He went from voting for Harris to last week saying "Trump is the smartest president we've ever had".
Sounds like dementia.
Fox news is specifically designed to target the elderly as their critical thinking skills are fading, targeting their most triggerable fears. Fox Brain is a known phenomena, one which can usually be reversed if easy access to Fox News is removed, as seen in this documentary.
I myself was able to stop my mother from going down that path with the help of a browser add-on that let me block right-wing rage bait news from showing up in her YouTube feed, which had an almost immediate and lasting effect.
Link to the addon instead of a preview of a comment with the link https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube
Ah, I didn't realize the Voyager app worked that way when using it to share links, which is really weird and awkward. I edited my comment to a direct lemmy link now that I'm on a PC. Thanks for the heads up.
And for others reading, I linked to my older comment since I briefly explained how I used blocktube to be effective, but I'll add it here as well:
At some point she had an appointment to go somewhere and I happened to have an opportunity to access her computer for an extended amount of time.
What I did was subscribe her youtube account to a bunch of left-wing news sources, and more critically, I installed the browser addon BlockTube, which allows you to create a blacklist that seamlessly prevents videos or channels matching any keywords you choose from displaying on youtube. I added words like Trump, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Fox News, Sean Hannity, etc.
The comment does contain tips on how to set it up though
Yeah, that doesn't sound like Roku's fault.
Dementia doesn't automagically make one rabid for Trump.
There seems to be a pretty strong correlation though
Same with the level of propaganda.
No, but it does often lead to sudden, late-life personality changes
$22 billion to get the maga propaganda machine front-and-center on more screens than cable tv ever did, and timing is just right to get it all going in time for 2028.
One of the things on my FOSS wishlist is an open source alternative to Roku/GoogleOS/Apple TVos, etc. there are lots of FOSS apps on these various platforms, but those apps almost always have varying levels of quality and availability across them.
Right now the closest you can really get is media center PC, but what I really need is something relatively plug and play I can send to family members, preconfigured.
yes I totally don't know why this isn't more of a thing. here's hoping that "plasma bigscreen" will change that. https://plasma-bigscreen.org/
Plasma Bigscreen is coming
Looks very promising
Yeah, a jailbroken Roku OS would actually be fantastic. The actual TVs aren’t bad. Roku has actually figured out how to do streaming decently. It just sucks that the entire company seems to be going down the shitter, and they’re determined to drag all of their screens down with them.
I blocked by Roku TV’s telemetry BS with my pi-hole, at least. But that won’t stop them from trying. Having a way to flash a new FOSS/jailbroken OS onto it would be ideal.
Same. I'm currently doing the mini PC media center. It's nice but I don't see my family doing something like that. It's a bit too expensive and less plug and play than a $40 Roku/Chromecast unfortunately.
Those things are so cheap because they serve you ads and sell your data. They're sold at a loss. Most brain dead idiots are fine with that trade it would seem. If you could get Linux running on one of those that would be great.
I feel like Kodi mediacenter app is one of the main things to consider putting on it. Like, booting some Linux and instantly launchung it, so it's UI is the main UI for user to interact with. It covers most TV usecases of mid 2010s and shines if you have a medialibrary on the network.
But it doesn't cover occasional web browsing, DRMed videostreaming platforms with their own apps, etc. Worse than that, if we don't limit it to just Kodi, we'd need some UI to pick apps, swtich apps, etc, and if that's critical, it's probably worth it to rip an image of some WebOS, like on LG TVs, or an Android fork like on SmartTV boxes/sticks, whatever is less combatative, and methodically carve out bloat and adware, forming an image of inherently insecure/outdated OS that has the UI thing working right.
Outside of SteamOS idk if Linux (not Android) had slick console/SmartTV-like DEs/system-wide GUIs. But since the problem is on the surface, I believe there are some who tried, or configured/themed their environment to act like it.
Outside of SteamOS idk if Linux (not Android) had slick console/SmartTV-like DEs/system-wide GUIs. But since the problem is on the surface, I believe there are some who tried, or configured/themed their environment to act like it. kde-bigscreen is available, and has that sort of ui, but does require some setup. Also don't know how available it is. I believe it is already in some repos.
I have the feeling so many people are super enthusiastic about it, it will be a matter of months after it's included in regular KDE that someone will make a "Linux TV" distro centered around plasma bigscreen while minimizing setup complexity, aimed at using it for TV only... And there's some (quiet) rumours that steam might be interested in using KDE bigscreen on the steam machine...
Google TV is the least worst option in terms of open source optionality, Apple TV is best for privacy as is
Why tf does everyone trust apple for anything? They're a pretty awful company.
Because as of now their main financial structure isnt based on selling personal information for ads. They make most there money selling products and services. And I think trust isn’t the right word. Apple is normally the least shitty out of all the shitty big tech companies with modern day convenience.
Because as of now their main financial structure isnt based on selling personal information for ads.
Again, how do you know that? Cook gave a gold bar to trump, they're not a good company.
No one said Apple was a good company, just better for privacy.
Cook was giving a toddler a shiny for favoritism. That's pathetic on Trump, not Tim.
Tim is a business man. He was brown nosing so his company doesn’t get fucked by the government.
They're the only mainstream hardware company that takes user privacy seriously. Bad on right to repair and openness though
Why tf does everyone trust apple for anything? They're a pretty awful company.
They’re the only mainstream hardware company that takes user privacy seriously
Why do you think that? Is that what you've heard or do you know that?
They're the only truly mainstream company with E2EE backups among other things. iOS is also much more secure than stock android, only Graphene OS is better.
Is Apple TV hardware any good because the app is appallingly bad. Even on a gigabit network connection it will drop connectivity and lag out. If you pause for more than about 1 minute it crashes and kicks you back into the main menu. It never seems to keep track of current shows and just shows a bunch of irrelevant stuff at the top which you have to always scroll past in order to get to what you actually want.
It makes Amazon TV look like a well polished product.
The hardware is actually one of the better streaming boxes on the market. Good direct play support for most of the big codecs, so your Jellyfin/Plex server isn’t having to transcode things. And it was (not sure if it still is) one of the few that wasn’t completely riddled with ads.
A FOSS alternative would likely be missing or have meh performance from many of the streamers. All the big ones use proprietary codecs that are expensive annual licenses. And even then the streamer controls what various access methods are allowed to see and at what quality. I think netflix still limits web browsers to 720p, for example. And straight web access isn't great, you want an interface that can ideally be controlled with about 6 - 8 buttons (4 directions, OK, and Back are the minimum) which might require API access to these services, which introduces more access control. Netflix (and maybe others) even have hardware installed at the ISP level that give them a lot of control over individual access as well.
Basically for a full featured FOSS service you'd need to start with getting grants to buy to codec licenses, and then you'd need to hire people just to maintain your relationship with the streaming services to stay in their good graces while they know you're working against their bottom line.
We need to develop an open, modular or all-in-one NAS with easily enabled services like Jellyfin, Navidrome, Paperless, Home assistant and so on.
With IPv6 we could avoid having to deal with CGNAT, but that could be solved as well.
People have been trying to do that for a long, long time, with various levels of success. There are a dozen options out there to try, but the scope of that kind of project huge compared to a simple streaming appliance OS.
I'd like for something like that to be sponsored by the EU
I’d like it to be sponsored by no one but the people that make it personally.
Yeah but as you said, that didn't work so far
Best solution would probably be a mini PC running a web app dashboard like they do with kiosks. I would tell you to get a rasp pi but they went up in price by quite a bit. You would still have to order it for them and spend a few hours tinkering and installing everything.
Yeah and the experience just wouldn’t be very good. I have a lot of experience with mini PCs auto loading into web dashboards and it never works quite as well as you want it to
As a family we rarely watch "on demand" or live TV. We have a mini hooked up to our TV and sail the seas for shows we want and watch them that way. We have a Roku stick in our bedroom TV and it works great, but if I get the feeling it starts to go all Project 2025 its getting ditched, but I'm in the UK so it'll be interesting to see how it changes here.
KDE is able to release plasma bigscreen. That, or frankly gnome would be fine with an air mouse.
What would be amazing is if there was some way to have a fully declarative system that was integrated with a system update UI.
You would upload the config somewhere, your family's streaming box would see a new update is available and either prompt them to install it or install it for them overnight.
I’ve never used it before but it sounds like you’re sorta describing NixOS? That might be an option to sorta Jerry-rig this idea together.
Jellyfin is quite great for me right now. Check it out https://jellyfin.org/
Jellyfin is just a media streaming application
It is a server application too that can be installed in old hardware serving media to many clients, not only the jellyfin app.
It’s a server application that just streams your media. You’d still need some kind of device to install the client on.
Relax. I was just correcting your wrong statement about it being just "a media streaming application" by adding the sever part bit.
Relax, it is in fact just a media streaming application. It is an application that streams media. It does nothing else.
Yarr.
Coreelec on ugoos am6b+ is the best option if you want the broadest support for formats possible (though notably missing av1)
Htpc with streaming content or stuff like Dolby vision is a licensing nightmare. Some stuff works, some doesn’t, Linux support is trash, etc
For me it's kind of JellyFin + TailScale, but that probably isn't going to work with less tech savvy family members or on all devices. Plex works well enough, but then again it's the same thing that someone has to be responsible for the 'media' portion, and a lot of people enjoy live sports, which seems difficult through the open source things.
Yeah JF + Tailscale in one of them $20 Walmart Google TV boxes works well enough but like, I’d love to drop the Google part entirely.
Yeah, I just use the web interface, so I end up having a cheap PC with a keyboard/remote which works pretty well, then it doesn't matter the TV and get's away from Google altogether.
Yeah. The closest I've gotten without a media center PC is using remote adb to remove all the bullshit from my Nvidia shield.
Until I read the last sentence, I had no idea what you were talking about. You sound like you could whip up a media center PC easy enough. The machine I'm typing this on doubles as our media center. I have to take the mouse to the coffee table for a movie remote, but that's the only hassle, and it isn't a hassle for me.
I feel like the tech is already in place. What do you want that isn't out there?
Must get very small, very quiet, require zero ongoing maintenance besides an automated update mechanism, and have a single unified UI across all apps that the user can’t easily escape out of.
Can you configure and ship it?
That's disappointing.
Eh, fuck you Roku I never trusted you.
Tons of older folks (like my Mom, grandma, my aunts) have Rokus set up to replace cable. They don’t know how to operate individual apps, but they love Roku TV (which pops up by default), and kinda just watch whatever comes in.
So… Yeah.
That’s not worrying at all.
A lot of the stuff that comes over the online TV channels is also broadcast over the air, have you considered getting them an antenna?
They all have one! In the attic, with an amp. I installed them myself.
It’s not the same as the Roku TV app though. Those channels are like older person catnip, and the duplicated ones don’t cut out unpredictably.
It’s also understandably difficult for some folks to remember how to change TV input, rescan channels and such.
The deal is expected to close in the first half of next year. It still needs approval from Fox and Roku shareholders and also regulatory approval.
Hahaha, regulatory approval is f@ing guaranteed these days, as long as the proper fees are paid in advance. F@ck you, felon in chief. 😡😡😡
fuck is the word.
you know: you can swear here
Oh shit, for real? Fuck yeah!
OP might not be the best example but I have a growing appreciation of holding your temper in check. Self censorship is some acknowledgement that you're watching a little bit of what you're saying.
At the same time though, fuck Trump.
Censorship is stupid. It's better to choose different words, hold back or go full in.
Also fuck Trump.
Been shouting at clouds forever. Capitalism ain't the problem, it's the unfettered mergers and near monopolies. When I was a kid, the FCC/FTC would have laughed. "No, you can't control that much media."
Now? Exactly as you said.
Why do you think there’s unfettered mergers and monopolies? That’s right, it’s capitalism.
So capitalism is the problem. What do you think allows the mergers and deregulation, a government that is not capitalistic? SMH
Welp, time to discard all things Roku in my house. I've already been trying to make everything "dumb" again.
No, microwave.. there's no fucking reason you should be "phoning home"... get the fuck outta here with that shit.
Welp, time to discard all things Roku in my house. I’ve already been trying to make everything “dumb” again.
As if Roku is some great company beyond Fox lol
Yeah, all corporations are bad.. sure. My point was the tipping point for me personally breaking away from the convience of Roku's all-in-one streaming would be the addition of Fox's no doubt right wing propaganda injection, even more malicious privacy invasion, and data tracking.
I didn't say Roku was a "great company" just because I may have a few of their devices already... we all have crap in our house from one bad company or another, no one can fully escape corporate consumerism, and if they can they wouldn't be on here to read this, more than likely.
No, more like as if this is the straw that broke the camel's back
If you had to choose, would you rather:
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a turd with flies all over it?
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a turd that a drunk also puked on, with flies all over it?
@ComradeMiao @technology I have a RokuTV, but I blocked it from my network. All I wanted was a dumb screen for my set top box, and I am now even happier I did that
I purposely didn't buy a Roku
It would certainly be a shame if some rogue Roku employee deployed an update that stripped ads and broke automatic updates for all devices right after Fox finalizes the deal but before they get anything out of it.
that's a nice idea, but when they catch-on it probably wouldn't survive six months before breaking changes are implemented on the backend somewhere.
aaand then they just broke millions of TVs. there goes the brand recognition
I'd settle for a crack so I can make it a plain ole linux htpc.
Bonus points if I can configure the remote.
On the day of the handover lock it up with ransomware.
Capturing all media distribution.
Well shit.
Nope. Don't like that 🤢
Well that sucks, the disinformation network just got a much broader reach.
Guess I'm glad I never bothered with Roku
Breaking up all of these media mergers and tech companies needs to be the top priority if we ever have a Dem president again. And Hungary proves it's possible even when the trash controls 90% of the media.
Fuck every one of these fascists.
Time to toss the stick I use on the spare TV in the garbage
Time to throw out the roku I never use.
Time to throw out the Roku I never had
I can't wait for free movie site levels of ads.
My only tv is an almost 10 year old Roku tv... Guess it's time to finally dig into the settings and figure out if I can bypass the home screen and get it to just boot to a raspberry pi or something
I have an old Roku 3 that is, basically, a Raspberry Pi. Like, if you could swap out the OS it could do Raspberry Pi like things.
Oh no! Not the pop-up AD Smart TV company! The only reason to have Roku today IMO is for those cheap Roku subsidized TVs but only when you keep them completely offline. I truly feel bad for all the people who have them connected to the internet but this is pretty on par for Roku.
Both our TVs are Rokus, internet connected and I've been too lazy to configure the firewall. Only ads I see are on the home menu screen, and those are slightly annoying but unobtrusive.
Wife's TV in the bedroom is only used for YT. (I think, that's her thing.) Mine's a second monitor for my PC to watched pirated content.
Where and how are people seeing ads?
They're on the home screen in a banner on the right when you select an app, as sections on the left, in a banner on the bottom left, a banner over the movie in their Roku Channel app and so on.
You may be in a country where they are not serving many ads. They also use ACR on TV models which have it that sends fingerprints of what you watch to a server for personalised ads.
Also Roku live tv has commercial breaks.
On a related note, the Samsung live tv app now runs javascript during its commercial breaks. It locks\disables about ten buttons on your remote so you are forced to wait or "interact" with the commercial.
I expect as Roku grows they'll soon pick up that feature.
Oh, ffs.
This on top of tubi? It seems that Trump's henchies really do have all of FAST in their goddamn pockets.
Corporations shouldn't be allowed to buy each other
Corporations shouldn't be allowed
to buy each other
Abolish the corporate veil. People are accountable for their own actions, corporations are not real. They can buy liability insurance. And if that insurance is too expensive, then the market has spoken and you shouldn't do it.
Treat it just like anyone paying someone else to do something.
Already switched to an Android box since Roku was getting crappy fast. Projectivity launcher. Still need a fork to go mainstream to reign in Googles app developer shenanigans. If memory prices weren't so screwed up, would have been a perfect time for Steam Machines to push regular Linux as an HTPC closer to mainstream
Any android box you can recommend? I am looking for something without all the bloat, ads and privacy nightmare. I have a shield. It is pretty nice but still bloated and too bulky to put behind a TV.
Projectivity helps. Android TV should be open source.
A Fire TV went nuts today spamming my network with 60k mdns Pkt/s. It took down all my WiFi access points because the CPUs couldn't handle it.
Onn boxes from Walmart are hands down the best deal out there. $45-50 for the pro is solid.
It has boat, but you can get custom launchers or place it in app only mode to cut down on that.
Yeah I am considering in the near future to upgrade from my Shield before it gets too old.
I mean a BC-250 is still not a terrible option for a steam machine
Well that's some shit I'm gonna toss in the garbage. All of the streaming in the house is done on PCs or Playstations currently, so it won't be a big loss. I have a few devices sitting around to take for travel or whatever, but I can find other solutions.
Dear corporate America:
I reject your enshittification. I don't need your service. Fuck yourself with an axe-head.
– Shel
Cable is dying hence Murdoch needs a new way to broadcast his propaganda to old people.
KODI KODI KODI KODI KODI KODI KODI KODI KODI
Don't be lazy. Put some work into customizing your setup. Enjoy a better life.
Fuck Fox and Fuck Roku. It will only get worse. My Roku is already the top blocked device in my Pihole, making thousands of telemetry requests for no good reason. Time to remove...
It’s not about laziness. Roku is used by a ton of people who don’t know what a linux is.
The best solution would be for an open source roku alternative that is plug and play
Thank you! For a 54yo non-tech person I'm keeping my head above water, but please don't ask me to learn a whole new something in an area that I have no skill or interest in.
Re Fox buying Roku, it makes me want to throw up.
Also, can you run common streaming services on Kodi without having to fight endlessly with their countermeasures?
I would love to dump all of this crap and just run a pc with a browser on the tv, but there is no clean interface that I could use with a remote.
Google TV is the closest
heck we need to go out evangelizing kodi
Kodi keeps clunky and old honestly.
Can someone recommend a good, simple, open source TV box with a remote that can play YouTube and Plex?
Mini PC with KDE Big Screen? Just got a massive update and can even handle HDMI CEC, so You can use your TV remote with it
Thanks for this info! Ive got a house full of Roku and have been gifting them over the years. Now I'll have a new gift "box" to all those same people.
Kodi.
That’s not what they asked for
Guess it’s finally going to be time to flip over to AppleTVs.
Sail the high seas.
Still need something to get the plunder to the TV.
I’ve heard Apple TV is great, but I can’t bring myself to use a limited device for media at home… I recently replaced our raspberry pi media players with a levovo tinys that I got for a steal (under 100USD each, i5/16/256!) because my partner uses YouTube while working and I can’t bear to have ads playing in the house. Got a PiHole but that doesn’t work on sites where the ads are served from their own servers. If I was going to get any box thingy to play media at this point though, it’d for sure be an appletv—they seem the most polished and least invasive of any premade box like that.
Get a onn. Box from Walmart and put something like Projectivy launcher on it
can those be "set up properly" without having to use a wm or google account?
No, I bought one thinking I just wouldnt log into google and it would not let me do one single thing without logging into Google. Nothing. Took it back immediately.
Raspberry Pi, Plex media server software and you're good to go. (it's free when you stream across your own home network) Bonus points for using industrial velcro and slap the raspberry Pi on the back of the TV.
Plex Media Server No.
Jellyfin. Easier to configure. No corporate BS.
The rest is fine.
Use Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr for movies, TV, and music respectively. (they really missed the ball with the Sonarr name).
I recommend getting an account with a service like UseNet News (UNS). Set up NZBGeek. Connect the above to that. UNS costs a fraction of what streamers cost and you can download most anything you want any time.
I would suggest torrenting, but I feel that's inherently more risky.
Plex Media ServerNo.
Really? Hm. I've got it installed on my main computer and it streams my videos to the TV w/o issue.
Granted, the OS on the computer is ancient and it's an older version of Plex (at least 6 years? Maybe more..) and I refuse to let it online to update and it's not failed me at all.
I've been sailing the high seas since the days of Mactella, so..
I didn't say it doesn't do that.
However, it is worse at transcoding, it is more of a memory hog, there's a potential risk of Plex using your information (privacy concerns). Plex can potentially catalog what's in your library and use that information for marketing or worst-case-Ontario, report you if you're a pirate.
It's a corporate entity with corporate-sized issues. You can dig deeper if you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7AmIN5wHU
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/plex-how-bad-is-it-for-privacy/26180
https://www.askdavetaylor.com/how-to-maximize-your-privacy-with-plex-media-server/
Jellyfin is better. ESPECIALLY if you aren't sharing your library with others. Even if you are, use Tailscale or some other VPN to your network to do it.
Just because it's how you've always done it doesn't mean it will always be right.
Ooof. I can see its been wise of me to keep the thing locked down on the spare laptop that's not online.
I have many different computers, most all are dumpster dives.
As far as the torrents - I do it from my work studio and not at home simply as I am on the starter speed for internet there.
I trot my files home on a flash stick and dump them on the network drive.
Nothing is transcoded, if I need to do that, I use Handbrake.
I share my files with a flash stick. Homegirl's old school but I will look into Jellyfin and use it if it runs on my OS - it might not. My newest system is a gaming PC from 2016 (which I do NOT use for anything but gaming) and the streaming Mac is a 2010 MBP running an unsupported install of Mojave. For my graphics work, I'm using Mavericks simply as it runs all my peripherals - and of course my programs, perfectly.
pi or old pc/laptop, maybe? with remote control or mini wireless kb/mouse (what i use, one with trackpad integrated) or one of these remote control sized ones?
I dread the day my Nvidia shield dies. The next less shitty option is probably using an apple tv, but I really wished Nvidia made a new version with a bit more power
I've spent a solid 4 years at Discovery/WBD, working on their video playback engine for all things Android. This includes all of Android TV.
I am still an Android engineer, but all my TV systems are Apple TV. This should tell you everything.
but if it didn't... Google really made the TV experience of Android go to waste. Underpowered hardware, badly written software, all resulting in stuff like sluggishness, UI freezes, apps crashing, not to mention the frequently messed up hardware/software layer (took us 2 years to make Sony admit they messed up like 3 years worth of Bravia TVs...).
am still an Android engineer, but all my TV systems are Apple TV. This should tell you everything.
i run into other cases like that... 'i work on x but use y instead'.
hell, i work in and on windows shit and "smart" devices, but i run linux and have a flip phone.
I've seen maybe a little of that with my shield, but nothing too crippling. I have an apple TV on one system and a shield pro on the other. I still prefer the shield especially because it supports audio bit streaming l, has a superior remote, and for the past couple of weeks I've developed an ethernet issue with the Apple TV that I still haven't fixed. I've had very few issues overall with the shield.
- Install a PiHole.
- Create a guest wifi (most current routers allow you to do this)
- Configure PiHole as DNS server on guest WiFi DHCP
- Add all IoT devices including Roku and SmartTVs to guest WiFi
Roku, in my experience, likes to break apps every 3 months to force you to reconnect and reinstall them, so pihole works, I’ve had one for years, but it didn’t work very well for Roku, unless adblocking is your one and only concern and tracking doesn’t matter to you. I assume it’s the window where they can still get fine-detail logs.
This might be out of date info; I have had mine off the internet for years at this point, but it’s because of that crap.
You can add libraries to pihole that focus on blocking tracking urls, so you can easily expand the functionality beyond ad serving URLs.
very similar to my dietpi running on a low-power sff, except i use the hotspot app in dietpi and leave the guest ssid on the main router for stuff i dont want going through the pihole|adguard home (but don't want on the main network)
Curious if you can still use Roku's streaming channels with PiHole blocking its domains? I've gotta set this up
Maybe a dumb question... But what's the point of the guest network? Separation of concerns? Isolating data? Why not just run Pihole on everything in one network?
I have my Roku on my main wifi network and it's the top blocked device. I haven't considered moving it to a guest network. I try to keep it unplugged but maybe I'll just get rid of it now.
PiHole can break some funtionality for your main computers. This is especially sensitive if you work from home. You can opt for PiHole on your PC via manual IP setting but many IoT devices only use DHCP.
We had a few Roku left, but now we are going to finish our.transition to Nvidia Shields.
Propaganda machine is on the move.
Gotta find a way to connect with the old people now that cable is going the way of the dinosaur.
The regulators allowing this should be shot.
The same Fox owned by Disney?
Different Fox, article addresses that. 21st Century Fox was sold to Disney. This is Fox networks, think Fox "News".
Fun fact: Google Gemini is b******* and the AI summary told me that Foxcorp was one of the Disney holdings.
Your answer, obviously, is more correct
Well, I did have the advantage of having read the article. 😉
thats worst. its the "prime fox" owned by murdoch. murdoch specifically seperated his company so no one else can own it. disney owns the right to produce fox media movies and shows, just not the news portion.
It would be a gold mine for them. People always forget the optional agreements and don't want to find where to turn off the faucet of personal data or even know what that means.
I have brought this up while installing TVs for my job and I either get a "wtf, help me fix" or [blank stare] "why should I care?" reactions. Mostly the latter and they are all over the age of 60.
Look I'm 48 and I get it. I get the Russian level paranoia about people accessing my data. What you'll find is there are a lot of people that are aware and genuinely don't give a shit.
We are old enough to know that if you want privacy don't use technology.
Jesus Christ just yesterday I had to tell my oldest to watch what he says because he mentioned Luigi wasn't wrong. I told him I agree but I explained they're all listening and pointed to the alexa, the TV, his phone, his laptop.
Privacy is a farce. You can make it harder which I'm all for but if someone wants the data they can get it. You have secrets keep them to yourself. That is privacy.
Anyways, rant from someone with 25 years in Corporate IT. It's all theatre.
Of all the devices in my house, besides the computer I use all day for work, the Roku gets the most ads blocked by my pi hole.
Even my partner who is chronically infinite scrolling some major platform has less ads blocked
Same. It's not even close. I try to keep the Roku unplugged, but I should just discard.
If the big old government needs to approve this deal then FOX is in big trouble! /s
Can you imagine what it must be like to have a stake in roku when you get the news that the company is going to be sold for 22 billion? Do you just immediately nut and throw up at the same time?
I don't have any Roku devices luckily, but is there anyway to remove the google, roku, or amazon OS from a smartTV yet? I hope someone can crack these smart tv's and we can install linux on them in the future to eliminate the ads and backdoors.
People be like “don’t connect it to the internet.” I tried that and the TV actively functions worse. Like it forces me to go to the Fire TV Home Screen rather than just returning to whatever input I had it on when it was turned off and it says “some features don’t work when not connected”
Like Amazon enshittified the TV input to force me to connect the TV to the internet. I wouldn’t have bought it if I had known but now I’m stuck with it.
I should be able to use whatever software I want in my own devices. I want a Linux TV so badly.
Get a proper top class panel TV that's dumb and do rasp pi as a firestick, or just run it as 24/7 mini pc connected to the TV that has ad free YouTube, free movies, free everything really if you know what's up.
It cost like 7 euros a year to run it 365 days 24/7
I can’t afford a super nice TV. I have a Hisense U6 which I probably spent $500-700 at the time. It’s a few years old. But the fact that they know we don’t want their garbage so the make the TV worse if I don’t connect it to their services pisses me off. That’s the FireTV version.
I have a smaller Google TV version of the same panel on my bedroom and it doesn’t do that. Plus it has more features. I am degoogled tho so I don’t have it connected to an account tho.
I do have the living room TV connected to an Apple TV set top box. As for streaming devices that work out of the box, I actually really like the Apple TV. The only thing better than this would be doing what you said.
I’ve been trying to self host with Jellyfin, but getting my NAS set up has been a hassle. I’ve probably spent 200 hours trying to get it to work but no luck yet. (Fuck you QNAP/QTS and your proprietary software)
No. TVs are pretty dang cheap these days because they subsidize the up front cost with turning them into ad machines. If you want it without the features, you have to pay a higher up front cost.
If you auto update your tv, you most likely are SOL for jailbreaking a smart tv. I have tried two different TVs from LG and Samsung ending in the device being bricked. This is slowly becoming a pet project that I am realizing I am way out of my depth with.
If you can replace the mainboard and just use the panel, that would be awesome.
looks at stack of ebooks
Let Babylon burn.
Kodi is a great platform if you have something like an odroid or raspberry pi to run it on
Already replaced my Roku with an Apple TV.
Fuck i and just bought one as a quick fix for my old chromecast dieing.
can't believe they didn't reply to my offer of $3.50 and a paperclip
Clearly you needed a bigger offer. Should have gone with a binder clip.
Now I need to find another easy-to-use streaming stick for my parents.
https://www.kodi-guide.com/best-kodi-devices/
I didn't even know about these options until now. I've been using old laptops.
Thanks for the idea!
oh shit you're already all over it!
that one new artic something skin is fuckin awesome!
Arctic Zephyr: Reloaded. And yes it is awesome.
Have a roku tv and only use it to 🏴☠️screen mirror☠️🏴
🌊⚓Yarr mateys⚓🌊!
Or if you want to put minimal effort and have it look better than whatever your phone is capable of strem.io
Damnit...
I can put 22 billion Gokus in my ass and Fox still won't offer me my own show, but yet they're buying Dragon Ball? Like, tf they gunna do with that shit?
Does anyone know how to download content off those weird Roku channels? I'd like to download a bunch of stuff off of one before they (I assume) shut it down.
Guess it's time to get a new TV....
do not get a vizio. that's walmart trash now.
Having almost exclusively bought Vizio's across my entire adult life, element in their fall from grace.
I've used it with a set-top box pretty much the entire time though, and can't advocate for anyone using their Smart TV's smarts.