Ohio will continue to allow child marriage after push to end practice fails in legislature
2d 34m ago by lemmy.zip/u/BrikoX in usa@midwest.social from www.independent.co.uk
Advocates were baffled that the bill didn’t pass, given that it had no public opposition
I want to say "what the fuck, Ohio", but living next to Ohio and hearing every batshit bit of news that comes out of the state I can safely say this is entirely on brand.
Still. What the fuck, Ohio
This is the US, it was founded by the people too god awful to live in the UK during the height of its degeneracy. Of course child marriage is legal in most states.
it was founded by the people too god awful to live in the UK
Refugees of the 30 years war, religious movements that chaffed under the corruption of the Catholic Church, excess males from wealthier families who saw an officer's commission as the only path up the social hierarchy, slaves - omg, so many slaves!
And not just from the UK. Lots of these folks came from France and Spain and Scandinavia and the Mediterranean, as the practice of Enclosure choked off local access to productive farmland and potable water.
Many of the people who ended up in the US were most often people just wealthy enough to afford to flee serfdom, conscription, or imprisonment/torture/execution. Many more were victims of the holocaust that we call the Protestant Reformation, the Spanish Inquisition, the European Pogroms, and the Transatlantic Slave Trade.
And like the European Jews who fled to Israel during the mid-20th century, they turned from victim to perpetrator by the economic incentives settler colonialism fostered.
Just to be clear, this wasn't voted down, it wasn't voted on prior to the state assembly going on summer recess. Still dumb that they couldn't vote on this and just get easy PR leading up to the election in November. That being said, it was Republicans that stalled the bill being moved to the floor despite no one having the balls to come out against it the numerous times it has been discussed.
These bills are always a catch 22. They are easy pr cause who the fuck would speak up against something like child marriage? Then if you actually look into the bill you find it actually has countless knock on effects that put minors in more damage, removes protections for teenage couples such as a 17&18 year old dating, removes emancipation options, among other things.
Child marriage laws in a lot of states actually have some absurdly important parts in them and just striking them from the books with out replacement laws and considerations.
Those protections are the majority cases of these bills use cases. Yeah it also has some cases of EXTREMELY fucked up shit that happens as well.
But it's very much a case of your saving more then your hurting. And going from a 70/30 split of help to harm to 30/70 help to harm. Is not a good solution.
Its a big reason these bills rarely go anywhere. No one wants to touch them cause good pr now becomes very bad pr later. Cause none of the fucking pedophiles have enough soil left to remove the bills they like but leave in the protections.
It's always all or nothing. So the few sane politicians can't vote to remove it with out being bad guys. And the pedophiles know it. The entire situation is fucked.
I think you mean "speak up *for," not "against!" But yeah, it's ridiculous...
Somewhat sensationalized headline… 17 and (up to) 21 being legal doesn't fetch the same clicks as "cHiLd BrIdEs". I lost my virginity to someone whose birthdate fell relative to mine by just the right amount that we had 3 different legal statuses over the course of a one-year relationship. Nothing about it was rapey, but that seems to be the implication here.
I think we can all agree that the line has to be drawn somewhere, so why not just 18 as a blanket statement?
Because the poster you're responding to got laid which is the same a marriage
I mean… we were talking about it? Does that mean 18-year-olds getting married (even to people well over 21) isn't also stupid? I agree there needs to be a bright line somewhere, and that figuring out exactly where is nuanced. I was just pointing out that this looked like engagement bait.
The entire reason a lot of these bills never go anywhere is because removing the child marriage laws tends to also have a lot of knock-on effects. It also removes protections for cases such as yours, which is the vast majority of cases that these bills get involved in. Yes, there are some more extreme instances in some states, but it's rare.
So when these bills try and strike the laws entirely with no consideration or replacement for protection, it just creates an even worse situation than having them in the first place.
So you either have a case like we have now where it's imperfect. It allows for some amount of really really f***** up. S*** but generally is a 100% necessary amount of protection for couples between 16 and 21.
Emancipation by marriage is a very common protection for abuse of households for high school and young college couples. A 17-year-old marrying an 18-year-old, for example, can be an easy way to get a easy out of an abusive household in a legal way that provides a number of protections.
My own mother used that to get out of her own abusive household.
Without these so-called child marriage laws, such a thing would have been impossible.
Who in there saying mine would condemn the majority of cases to a worse situation to save a small number of extremely rare circumstances. A sane person would rather leave the protections in for the majority of cases while patching the hole that allows for those extremely rare circumstances.
But most of these suggestions always are to just strike it all. Get rid of it all. Wholesale no thought. No replacement no consideration. So they go nowhere. No one wants to touch them. They've eventually just die off.
Everyone gets pissed cuz everyone just reads the sensationalized headlines of child brides. Thinking why the f*** aren't they doing anything? Yada yada yada.
It's complicated problem and it's a icky problem to most people so they don't want to think about it or research it in any meaningful way.
Hence giving yet more credence to the devastating zoomer insult “skibidi Ohio rizz”