Trump Celebrates Achieving Absolutely Nothing in Iran
1d 17h ago by lemmy.world/u/return2ozma in leopardsatemyface from theintercept.com
He surrendered and paid Iran.
Don't sugar coat the surrender part.
He made a handful of billionaires/trillionaires a lot of money. He fucked up things for the rest of the world.
He made himself and his family a lot of money. His dumb son is so brazen he was asking if any of the UFC fights at the White House were rigged so he could bet on them. The whole family is rotten beyond redemption.
Yes, but why did he do that? Personal gain for his purse & ego. Not America. It's sad that it took his followers a full decade to even start realizing that. Some of them.
I find the term "Absolutely nothing" a bit loose. Negative achievements are still achievements.
They’re called “losses” and “failures”
(War, huh) Good God, y'all
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin'
Say it again
(War, huh) Woah, woah, lord, lord
(What is it good for?) Absolutely nothin'
Listen to me
Achieving “absolutely nothing” is a criminal understatement…
The US just lost. In a war against Iran.
Seems a pattern tbh, expensive toys lead to expensive mistakes?
You could argue that its cultural. The US has always been a country that values opportunism and individualism. Both parties appeal to people’s feelings of national identity or manifest destiny, only to then skillfully curb the narrative back to personal freedom and personal responsibility.
When you teach people to value self-sufficiency and individualism, you get a populace that is mostly apolitical. Good luck trying to mobilize those people for any sort of grand project that requires a lot of personal sacrifice over many years.
I would argue that the rise of Christo-fascism contradicts you. As well as the prevailing conservative movement.
But I do agree that the US somehow has less than expected populism due to these movements. With what you describe, any promise in alignment with self interests should do well. Yet currently a majority is grumbling that everything's been going against that for 50+ years, and yet the big political shifts haven't been to popular-concession-du-jour, but to expanding/retracting social democratic reforms.
I would argue the US populace is heavily propagandised, to the point of propaganda exhaustion, and apolitical for that reason more than because of any independence from the state.
This in turn is excellent breeding ground for sycophants and cronies in power, which would explain the repeatedly poor results in international dealings where power selection might have more bias towards competency.
Trump administration is repeatedly outmaneuvered by Russia, Canada, Mexico, China and now Iran. Notable examples also cover UAE, Israel, North Korea, EU, India and Japan. And the US has had a massive upper hand going into those situations. The fall of the petro-dollar was unimaginable (before a post-oil world) 5 years ago, and yet it's now a real possibility (pending logistical issues of the new currency), and with the dismantling of US soft influence, increasingly inevitable.
I think the USA still calls them wins, regardless of the outcome.
lol Israel is 100% going to spike this “deal”
Since April, the White House has not replied to requests for further information about Trump’s inability to achieve world peace. Trump has also failed to accomplish even his more modest goal, as the region remains mired in conflict. Israel continued its war on Lebanon on Sunday and said it was not involved in the new pact. “Trump’s agreement does not bind us. … We are not party to this agreement,” Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir wrote on Telegram on Sunday.
To wit, last I checked they’re still bombing the shit out of Lebanon
Trump gave Iran a great deal just so he could announce the peace on his dumb birthday. If the US keeps their end of the deal (it's Trump after all) Iran may also keep theirs and leave Lebanon be for now. They aren't doing that well on the homefront as the IS has been bombing military targets and civilian infrastructure. The hits on civilian infrastructure especially will have worsened the internal unrest that Iran was dealing with before the war start. We also don't know how much control the new Ayatollah has over the country as he has basically been in hiding all this time to avoid being assassinated by the US or Israel. The peace deal would allow them to start rebuilding and focus their efforts fully on dealing with internal unrest. And they could also just use the new funds that will be unfrozen by the new deal to covertly fund Hezbollah and have them fight against Israel in Lebanon.
But yea it's a shit deal and it will most likely get worse for everyone.
An end to Israeli hostility in Lebanon is one of the 14 points of the deal, if Israel continues, the deal will be null.
Oh darn, another round of stock manipulation. I am sure Trump and company will wipe away their tears with all their money.
Hey, HEY. They bombed a school and killed, what, 173(?) schoolchildren.
I bet they are quite happy with that achievement!!!
Hmm, I always thought Trump was the leopard. But I'm not opposed to his face being eaten, so how exactly would that work here?
He's eating his own face.
Have you seen a man eat his own head?
He should throw it against the wall when he's angry. I'm sure maga will pay huge money for "shrouds of trump" where his face hits and leaves face shaped Cheeto stains
The leopard stuck its face into an industrial cheese grater. Then complained it attacked first.
Hey now, he did achieve something - sending $300B in tax dollars to fund a bunch of people that shout "Death to America!"
Wait....isn't that considered terrorism under NSPM-7?
Most Iranians do NOT shout "death to America"... but yeah, he sent money to the ones who do.
I'm darkly amused that the citizens of US, Israel, and Iran all share a lot in common. And chief among those is that our governments are run by power hungry assholes that justify their brutality with religion and DARVO.
Sorry, I meant that not exactly in sarcasm, but from the insane perspective of MAGA idiots
Tuxedo mask meme: "my job here is done"
until the markets close again, which he renege on the deal
What do you mean achieved nothing? The US disarmament is definitely something!
“I hereby fully authorize the toll free opening of the Strait of Hormuz.”
I've been thinking for a few minutes trying to drum up a sarcastic remark, but, I'm simply at a loss.
The point is that is is not "Absolutely Nothing". It is even worse, it is a big net negative.