Nvidia CEO: Everybody should use AI. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When cars came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
18h 45m ago by lemmy.zip/u/Valuy in mildlyinfuriating from apnews.com
Everyone has to start buying my product. We have no choice. I don't make the rules.
Happy cake day!
And to you as well!
Woohoo!!
People are always asking me if I know you
Shhhh... We don't talk about that.
Oh sorry. I haven’t been getting much sleep lately. Everything feels like a copy of a copy of…
I am Jack's total lack of surprise
Of course in the event of an AI, it’s Lemmy policy never to imply ownership. Always an AI was found to be used in your post, never your AI
Everyone should use guillotines. Society has no choice but to change. I used to be a parasite. When the revolution came along, you obviously can't be a parasite now
In reality, everyone should use securities backed loans. You have no choice but to change. I used to be starving. You can't be a poor anymore.
When cars came along? How old is he?
He also thinks there are one billion people on earth total. So between that and the invention of cars being in his memory, I think we can place him solidly in the mid 1800’s?
Fucking vampires
Wait.....maybe AI isn't wrong all the time. Maybe it was just programmed by CEOs that are wrong all the time!
That’s why CEOs think it’s right all the time and so dangerous. Be cause they’re deluded morons who don’t know it’s wrong.
I just took that statement to be a mask off moment where he reveals just how little he thinks of most humans. He can't really be stupid enough to think there are only one billion humans on the planet?
A billion who matter maybe. Then the other 7 are just ... there, sort of
Yea. I am inclined to read it as him just seeing people who can afford Nvidia products count towards being human.
Was this in the article or is this something he said elsewhere?
It was tucked into a recent speech. I watched a timestamped link. He really said it and it really sounded like he meant the sum of all people.
Defenders say that he was implicitly referring to people who are “computer users” or would be engaging with his company’s products or whatever. If true, I don’t know if that’s better lol
Huang was born and spent early childhood in the city of Taipei. In 1968, by the time he was five years old, there were 17,000 cars and 75,000 motorcycles† in the city with population of 13,801,200‡, with one car per 812 people.
Sources:
† Taipei MRT celebrates its 30th birthday | EuroView, 2026
‡ Population records increases in Taiwan | CountryEconomy
How old was he before cars were invented and playing in the street though
Saburo Arasaka was born in 1919 in Japan... wait, sorry, wrong biography. This corporate villain was born in Taiwan in 1963.
"Please use my product so I don't have to sell one of my yachts".
"Please use my product so I can buy a couple more yachts"
FTFY
his jackets.
The AI bubble depends on this kind of brainwashing to stay inflated. But they can't escape the truth, that AI is an answer looking for a question that isn't necessarily being asked. Sure there are useful applications, but I don't actually need it for anything I do.
It seems to be a big deal to people who don't know how to do a lot of stuff. I already know how to do a lot of things, and I know how to find info by reading when I need to learn something, so the most popular use cases for AI don't apply to me and I just don't use it.
Sure there are useful applications, but I don't actually need it for anything I do.
I've seen applications that are very useful. YouTuber Berm Peak used ai to bypass the controller of the world's worst ebike so it wouldn't become e-waste and fix it's worst flaws. Yes new firmware could have been written from scratch. But he fixes bikes. He's not a software developer.
It's like you don't need a ball point pen to write, you could use a quill and save the plastic waste. But quills are so slow you don't even consider it.
So in other words... it's a big deal to people who don't know how to do a lot of stuff.
I actually know how to write software, and I refuse to work on any code an LLM has touched. Critical thinking is one of the most important parts of programming, and LLMs can't do it. That results in broken spaghetti code that's a nightmare to fix, because the AI never stopped to think about maintainability, low coupling, or the actual purpose of the software. It can't stop and think.
If Berm Peak would rather use AI than hire a software developer or write his own code, then I hope all of Berm Peak's customers use AI to fix their bikes instead of going to him.
. it's a big deal to people who don't know how to do a lot of stuff.
It's also a big deal to the extremely competent developers. The other person I saw use AI which makes me want to try it is Limor Fried. I watched one of her videos where she input a 50 page microcontroller pdf and got useable io mapping header files for her c code. Matching pins to ports in a doc that's spreads the info out across many pages is a huge grind.
It's not like I'm illiterate, but I'm open to using a plastic ball point pen instead of catching and killing a goose to make my own quill.
A dude DYI'ing his bike isn't something to even take into account...
Like saying screwdrivers are useful because I used one once to hammer in a nail because I didn't have a hammer and I had no idea what I was doing... Doesn't mean the screwdriver was useful in that instance, it just means I was too incompetent to use the right tool and knowledge for the job.
A dude DYI'ing his bike isn't something to even take into account...
I'm old enough to remember Hypercard. It was a revolution for regular people to create the one off app they needed to fix their own problems.
Hypercard was a nightmare for professional development. But it didn't matter. It was a tool for regular people.
Turns out, if you don't sacrifice cities on the car altar and plan for quality of life instead, children can in fact play on the streets. The Netherlands show it.
dont you mean sacrifice City resources to giant DATACENTERS altar.
c/fuck_ai and c/fuckcars collab
Man, I didn't know they didn't have cars back in the 60s.
To be fair, he was born in Taiwan, just 20 or so years after the ROC retreated from mainland China.
He then lived in the city of Tainan and later in Thailand.
Then, also consider what he may have ment by "when car came along", I would read it less litteral and more like "when mass car ownership came along".
One or two cars in the area per day won't prevent anyone from playing in the streets, but when that increases to hundreds per day, that changes things.
Cars and car-first infrastructure have been massively bad ecologically, socially, and environmentally.
Everbody should use cars. Society has no option but to change.
Planes too. Everyone should have a helicopter pad or they are a fucking luddite
It's inevitable
I wish he would play in the streets now
Better yet, play on the freeway
CEO says thing in attempt to force thing to be true because it’s beneficial to CEO.
You know, he's right - we should start investing in mass transit so we don't need the cars, and kids can play in the street again.
I’d rather burn down your headquarters than use your shitty, unreliable, insane environment killer.
But honestly, this guy is an asshole. He doesn’t seem to care about selling this to people. In fact, he’s practically openly hostile to people. He’s always talking to and selling to companies and government (America, mostly?)
It’s the most “bubble” fucking thing I’ve ever seen.
Uhhh, we def played in the streets despite cars. You just call off the game for a sec
"CAR!"
shuffles net to the curb
"GAME ON!" quickly tries to score before they are ready
Fuck cars
Rich-asshole/CEO-says-a-thing journalism. They say something completely absurd, and it actually makes its way around the news and memes. I swear, if we stop reporting these imbeciles and sharing this nonsense, half of the internet would have no idea what to do. The internet thrives and dies on these stupid souless pointless reactionary news articles, Tiktok dancing and tide-pod eating/trendy bullshit, and LLM stupidity.
You mean social media, not the internet. You can go to websites about cooking and find nothing about these guys there. :)
He should definitely go play in the street.
In the middle of a highway, if it's possible. And don't wear any hi-vis, your leather jacket is so cool, you should keep it on.
Everybody should use wheelchairs. Society has no use for legs anymore. We have no choice but to amputate our legs. I used to have legs but now I have a wheelchair, so I don't need them anymore.
Wheels are more efficient.
Yeah this dude is clearly detached from the conversation, because people have been realizing that car superiority was a massive mistake and we should be correcting it. Like unfettered AI expansion
Is he being pro-AI or anti-car?
Hes pro car. He sells a lot of hardware for car manufacturing self driving tech.
Anti walk in traffic I guess.. :)
“Why won’t you use my gimmick?” (｡╯︵╰｡)
Dude is older than cars?!
Cars were invented yesterday. Don't worry. Facts don't matter in 2026. It's all lies from the government, and AI for the masses.
Do what i want, slaves.
This guy sounds like someone who has been told how smart he is a few too many times in elementary school.
And now that he's surrounded by paid Yes Men, it just reinforces his skewed viewpoint
The Yes Men are nothing compared to the big Yes Machine he keeps pushing
Everybody should use _____. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When _____ came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
Everybody should use guns. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When guns came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
Everybody should use drugs. Society has no choice but to change. I used to play in the streets. When drugs came along, you obviously can’t play in the streets now
I'm seeing a pattern here...only bad things work in his example.
Is every sentence out of this idiot's mouth stupid? Or is it 50:50?
So what were the streets for then?
I assume he's thinking of just "streets" made for horses/wagons.
He thinks he remembers a time before cars.
I think he should still play in the street
'Away and play with the traffic' my dad used to say when I was being a pest when I was a kid.
The problem with his dumbass analogy is that people actually wanted cars.
If their product was really that incredible they wouldn't need to sell it so god damn hard.
People have reclaimed some of the public space that we lost to cars. Losing rights and privileges to new technology is not as inevitable as Jensen Huang wants to present it.
Car-free streets, streets with restricted access, streets where cars have the lowest priority, temporarily closed streets, ... I don't know a single commune that doesn't have some of these, it's not the 1970s anymore.
x-post to c/FuckCars 🙃
Suck my Huang, Jensen, and then kindly fuck all the way off.
Eh, I'm fine with him playing in the streets. He's old enough to make his own choices.
I'm in the US. Kids still play in the street.
God, he is such an insufferable dick and no jack ass, kids still play in the streets even with the cars but I wouldn't expect a out of touch billionaire to even understand a bit of actual life and no, I don't want your AI slop anywhere near my life.
Violence is no solution but goddamn would I celebrate if that man got shot.
Funny thing is that if we all play on the streets for a month all their money will be worth nothing.
I love my Nvidia Shield and my 1080ti. They are some of the best tech purchases I have ever made. That said...fuck this weirdo.
Oh, well then, I guess the asshole has spoken, so we all just fall in line.
The only thing nice I have to say about this shitstain is he's temporarily sequestered a bit of carbon.
Sounds like he's saying he values cars more than children. I mean, yeah, both can be noisy and annoying, but only one will grow up to pay tax.
Sounds like he's saying he values cars more than children.
Nah, I think think he secretly wants all those children to work for his company instead.
/s
肏你祖宗十八代!
There's a huge difference between the Gutenberg press and this crapola reasoning; that printer advanced knowledge. Fuckin AI might as well reverse all that was learned by causing most people to forego learning and become LAZY.
Wow, poking the anti-AI and the anti-car people — not realizing that Venn diagram is concentric circles. (Intentionally using — just like my AI overlords)
Fuck cars too.
Do not use their services. You are being used as training data.
AI companies are hemorrhaging money all by themselves, don't give them a penny and don't give them your speech.
Plumbers needed.
Everybody should use AI AI should be optional
FIFY
maybe next time i should buy AMD, i love my GTX 1650 though. (I dont mind not being able to run modern AAA at high fps,Slower tokens per second,etc.)
i like Local AI cause its solve most of the ethics problems for me(i dont like AI datacenters)
i tend to not share any AI prompts due to possible training on anything copyrightable problem.
AMD is just as bad. It only looks better, because it doesn't have the resources to pull of all the crazy shit that Nvidia does.
And so is Intel. There's no good choice when it comes to dekstop CPUs and GPUs, unfortunately.
ofc they aren't very good(both are public companies at the end of the day so they wont be very good,the most they can be is "good".),but i mean they are much better then Nvidia. (ig?)
and it would be cool if we got RISC-V consumer processors.
That's the dream, but both Intel and AMD will spend all of their money on ensuring it doesn't happen.
In this regard Nvidia is actually the least bad of the three. It's already manufacturing ARM SOCs, and isn't opposed to RISC-V either, since it'd be theoretically more profitable than ARM. No ARM royalties => more money for Jensen.
Especially with the recent RTX Spark announcement. Nvidia is perfectly willing to invest a lot of resources into ARM, while Intel and AMD are both investing resources into sabotaging it.
ARM isn't RISC-V of course, but close enough. Many companies investing into ARM invest into RISC-V as well, including ARM giants like Qualcomm, because it only makes sense.
If it wasn't for the AI bubble, I could consider Nvidia to be better than Intel or AMD overall. I'd still probably buy AMD's desktop GPUs over Nvidia's though.
Buy a 50 series card. Mfg has lower latency than raw uncapped, and if you have a 500hz oled is the only card on the market that can get those frames because of it.
It's crazy how good the 50 series is.
Cars don't have the ability to know more about me than I know myself, or empty my savings account, or decide that I'm a threat to the prevailing order by reading through the sum of my online content, or manipulate or replace me.
He was alive before cars were around? This is mildly concerning. I guess that zoro ranch baby jerky really increases their lifespans
I remember seeing videos in the early 80s when US federal seatbelt requirements went into effect and everyone in an uproar about it. Screaming government overreach, the nanny state, etc. Now anyone not wearing a seatbelt is an idiot.
AI will end up being a useful utility and those opposing it the loudest now will no longer be loud about it. Right now it's expensive, it's inefficient, it uses too many resources much like cars from the 80s compared to cars now. As Moore's Law kicks in it will use fewer resources, become more efficient, and more accurate
Cars now use too many resources.
Compared to 30 years ago?
If you compare similar models, yeah. A modern Corolla is like 500 pounds heavier. Let’s not get started on trucks, or the fact that most cars are now SUVs.
Plus there’s a hell of a lot more of them.
And more roads. And more parking lots.
I'd much prefer reliable, clean public transit, and it's entirely doable. But better cars too because people.
So AI of the future will be more useful in more cases and use less energy and other resources. Based on... nothing within the AI technology, but on a very loose analogy.
Tell me you don't know how the technology works without telling me. The "good" models are huge. They make servers larger than your local town centre run on full load for every query. There's no throttle to hold them back, as that doesn't help. It'll always be full speed ahead. And the results are based on probability, with a factor of bullshit baked in as part of the design. Yes, computers become more efficient over time, but that doesn't help when you keep pushing them to go full speed all the time. The thirstiest CPU in the original Pentium family used to consume 17.3 Watts at full speed. Today, the Intel Xeon w9-3595X slurps 462 Watts given the chance. The Nvidia B200 datacenter GPU has a TDP of 1000 Watts. And data centers have thousands of these running, full speed, for LLMs to serve us hallucinated "facts".
There are very probably architectural limitations which will prevent large language models from ever getting much better than they are right now. They are most likely a dead end.
Seatbelts in cars actually do what they say on the tin. LLMs have some uses but for most things they don't do what they say on the tin. AI boosters and bad comparisons. Can't name a better duo
Unpopular opinion: He’s right. As much as I love to hate ai, it’s becoming a necessity.
I fucking hate “AI”. I hate that companies are betting their companies and employee’s livelihood on something they know isn’t correct ALL of the time. And not just companies, but governments and militaries. Not to mention the damage infrastructure is doing to support it.
However, it’s a tool and has it’s time and place. People just can’t put their head in the sand and pretend it’s not there. If you’re fighting it you’re going to be left behind.
What is it necessary for?
All I know is that it's changing every month but also I have to start using it every month for the past 3 years or I'll be obsolete and someone that uses it will take my job. Lolz
Lol, my boss has tired using ai to speed things up and all we got in return was unhappy clients.
Coding.
As a life long software developer, the speed at which I can build things is increasing significantly with AI. I’m not talking about vibe coding specifically, but even for maintaining existing projects, it’s a pretty powerful tool.
Most of us don't code, though
Aside from that, it’s very elaborate code and not exactly free of issues. But worry not, it’s tested with more genai.
Funny. You'd think we'd have more software if all you people that claim it's rocket fuel weren't full of shit, but all I see more is more shitty shovelware no one gives a fuck about, vibe coders overwhelming real open source devs, and historically good stuff like rsync getting fucked up
The people at work who use AI the most know the least. They add very little value. AI is rather anti-labor in that way.
I'd also rather have some people who are slow and competent than fast and hallucinating
If that were true, there would've been a software explosion, since LLMs have "killed manual programming" for some years now according to the guys that earn money when people believe that.
There hasn't been any perceivable increase of software products over these years. Nor a decrease in their price.
The only notable differences are:
- LLMs shoved into every software product.
- Microsoft software getting even worse since they claimed they were using so much LLM.
Yeah, you’re so right. Nothing has changed.
https://thehackernews.com/2024/11/googles-ai-tool-big-sleep-finds-zero.html
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/ai-security-zero-day-vulnerabilities/
These people are all probably hacks and the worst coders at their jobs. Right?
Did you read my comment through an LLM summary? Your response has no connection to my comment.
You said it hasn’t materially changed software development, I’m showing how it has from a cyber security angle. I’m also half replying to others which is why it’s not directly connected. I got massively shit on and wanted to reply but I’m not really interested in replying to each specific comment calling me a fucking idiot.
And no. I didn’t. I read and write all my own comments.
Lol you really opened multiple user profiles and mashed downvotes on random comments because you were so upset people called out your vibe coding story. Pretty sad
For the tools it is actually useful for; everyone has their thing.
I didn’t say it doesn’t have it’s evils. But it’s like saying the internet was going to be a fad. It’s not going anywhere and people are taking advantage of it. If you’re not keeping up with it, you’re doing yourself a disservice.
E: and yeah, I know it’s Lemmy and everyone is anti ai and even the slightest amount of non-hate is downvotes. I’m high and honestly don’t care. :)
The internet is a communications tool though. When you look at the history of communications development, from postal service to telegraph to telephone to internet, the internet fits right in there very neatly as the next step. AI is a totally new thing and doesn't have any particularly comparable analogs in the past. Anyway my point is I don't think it's comparable to the internet
GenAI is extremely destructive technology, so it deserves all the hate thrown at it, and the usefulness is still so-so at best.
How can you bitch about down votes when you have no answer to my question?
If you’re fighting it you’re going to be left behind.
Nah. But feel free to consider me left behind if it gets you to shut up.
They keep saying we're going to get left behind, but then they never actually leave.
Such strong words. Also, it’s pretty unlikely I’ll shut up.
Do you have anything you’d like to actually contribute to the discussion? I’m here for intelligent conversation, you could at least explain why you feel that way?
I'd like to contribute this:
You do a massive disservice to humankind by perpetuating the lie that "you'll get left behind".
How so? I’m just saying it’s here.
Like it or not.
For things that are actually useful people don't talk about them like they're fucking covid lol
Also, it’s pretty unlikely I’ll shut up.
it’s becoming a necessity.
Fucking try me
I fucking hate “AI”
No you don't lmao. Especially not after using the same "nuanced" glazer points.
plonk
something they know isn’t correct ALL of the time
Neither are humans...
I expect Joe at the cash register might occasionally count his drawer wrong. However, he’s not going to randomly give me made up shit.
I agree that AI is inhumanly good at presenting wrong information confidently and convincingly.
Humans can be held accountable though. Which means they would rather say "I believe this is because ..." than "you are absolutely right! If you remove the voltage regulator from the power supply, it will provide more power!". And if they don't, they can be fired or put in prison, where they can stop doing harm.
If your LLM repeatedly lies to you, there's nothing you can do about it. Maybe try another LLM, but there's not many of them and they all lie.
I think the perspective of moral responsibility ("lie", "held accountable") is not a useful one here. Punishment is one way of discouraging humans from making mistakes but it can't prevent mistakes entirely. My field is software development and in software development there is the expectation that everyone, even the best human developer, makes mistakes relatively often, and there are frameworks for managing those mistakes. (Frameworks not focused primarily on blame or punishment.) AI can fit into those frameworks.