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18h 57m ago by mander.xyz/u/fossilesque in science_memes@mander.xyz from mander.xyz

You have that 100% wrong. Wealthy Viennese families were complaining that their adolescent daughters were making up stories about being molested by their fathers and uncles. Freud built an entire field around this idea of the id and subconscious desires rather than believe in child abuse. This book is written by a former Director of the Freud archives and explains the issue pretty well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Assault_on_Truth

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I have no idea if Freud did it on purpose but I should go to some underserved branch of science and make up the most offensive shit imaginable so that researchers get fucking riled up and spend some budget putting in the work to prove it all wrong. Call them Freudian Consequences.

"The best way to get your question answered is to post wrong information."

— Sun Tzu on a web forum ca. 1999, probably

I like this idea.

Let's be fair though. There wasn't a body of data to work from, the science side of it was essentially in its infancy, and you do have to start somewhere.

For all the flaws in his conclusions, he did do a marvelous thing in the awareness of mental health being addressable in a more gentle way

Freud was great, because he was so infuriatingly wrong that the collective drive to disprove him kickstarted psychology /j

I mean, that's at least partly true lol.

Freud and anything that came out of it was and is still a talk-therapy for rich people.

If you were working class you had the option of self medication with drugs or being put into an insane asylum, if you broke down.

So yes, Freud is still relevant, if you can afford it basically.

I don't know that I can agree that the entire field of talk therapy is the sole domain of the rich. I've engaged in one-on-one talk therapy, and that was while entirely jobless and without income of any kind. Got it totally free. It took some jumping through hoops, yeah. And it was as an adjunct to other treatment modalities rather than the primary; but that's actually a good thing, not a bad one since one-on-one is way less effective than other modalities for most people in most situations.

What is absolutely true is that acces without either very high income, or unusually great insurance (here in the US at least) is much harder, and often with long waiting times, as well as being very difficult to schedule. In my area, you can expect to be limited to monthly sessions outside of crisis, and if you have to cancel, it will not be a quick new date. But, again, one-on-one talk therapy isn't a first line of treatment.

There was most definitely a hard class barrier originally, and it's entirely possible it could get that bad again.

Freud had one legitimate case study and it was himself.

Aren't we all a little bit horny and creepy, though?

Excuse me, some of us are very horny and creepy.

It's kinda true though lol. Most people are naturally horny and creepy but socialization teaches us to respect people's boundaries.

And still he's mainly known for wanting to fuck his mom.

Also the cocaine.

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