ACAB
18h 42m ago by lemmy.world/u/K1nsey6 in latestagecapitalism from loops.video
In Los Angeles, a woman was celebrating the Knicks' victory in the NBA when a neighbour called the police about the noise... 20 cops showed up and shot her dog, a "dangerous" Golden Doodle, when she opened the door to her home.
20 cops for a fucking noise complaint...
The insanity of America. In my country, i once call for a noise complaint as a group of people on the street being rowdy in the middle of the night, and the station send one cop riding a moped and arrived 5min later, sending everyone home without drama. I do not understand how cop in america can just whip out a gun and start shooting for anything minor.
Did they fix the noise problem tho?
Gunshots are pretty loud.
Well no there are a whole bunch of people shouting on the courtyard now.
A dozen cops standing around like a bunch of slack jawed morons. Great use of tax payer money.
Abolish the police.
Another reminder that cops are never your friends.
I think it is important to recognise that cops do way too many things which are very different. A reasonable job has rationally related responsibilities. For example, a technical support worker may also do some account admin work because the cause of a problem may be related to billing, a hairdresser may take payments, a bartender may assess the inebriation of a customer and cut them off. Cops?
The do parking enforcement. They arrest people who are drunk and disorderly. They execute search warrants. They do traffic enforcement. They attend domestic disputes. They record and process allegations of sexual assault. They do paperwork for insurance claims. They separate protestors and counter protestors. They take in lost property. They shoot dogs.
If your hair dresser had this many responsibilities you would think they would have multiple degrees and a big support team, or you would assume they would be incompetent in all of them.
A person who does mental crisis support uses very different tools to someone doing traffic enforcement. They are in many ways incompatible skills and those roles should not be mixed at all. The idea that the solution to cops being shit at their jobs is to increase training is insane.
Cops should be reduced to a single, well defined role. Most of their job should be broken into other roles and handled by people specialised in those specific things. A mental health crisis should have a mental health professional involved. A drunk altercation should have an officer of the peace who attends, deescalates, separates, and documents everything. A parking inspector would do just that, no more, no less. An investigator for SA would be a specialist in the topic, have strong mental health and trauma awareness, and not be a total creep. And I think we can just not have a person who's job involves shooting dogs.
If you took all those jobs and separated them out being a cop would be a much more simple thing. It would also be much easier to have a fairly good understanding of the law because you wouldn't have spent time learning about how to wrestle people to the ground, treat everyone as a threat, and shoot dogs, so yoh would have plenty of time to learn about law. Maybe you could even afford to have a uni degree in law and community services.
There is merit to some of what you say, but they still took the job. If you can't make reasonable decisions with firearms then you shouldn't be a cop. The rest is just noise.
I mean, yes, they are clearly individually bad, people making bad choices because they do not value the life of a dog above any risk to themselves or even fairly minor inconvenience.
At the same time, this is a bad job. Not a bad job to have, a bad job for society to make. There should not be cops. Cops are way to mixed as a profession.
Investigators of crimes? That is a reasonable job.
Dispute resolution specialists? Sure.
Someone to step between people having a domestic altercation? Yes, of course.
But just like you wouldn't want an emergency room doctor to also be a mortician you shouldn't want the traffic enforcement person to be the one to deal with a mental health crisis. The role has grown too large and cannot reasonably be performed well. It needs to be divided.
I think it's more of an issue of the minimum qualification requirements and the quality of police training. I thought that the whole point of training is to make sure you will make reasonable decisions with a firearm?
The training they get makes them worse.
This disgusting Dave Grossman that teaches 'Killology'
And then they send them to learn from the fascist genocider state
I largely agree with your points. My city government saw this and tried to break off just a single responsibility away from cops (transporting homeless people to a shelter) and give it to specially trained social workers. But the police union immediately began crying because they thought it could potentially lead to reduced police budgets in the future and they got the Republican state legislature to pass laws protecting the full scope of police responsibility.
Also in my personal experience with cops I know IRL, they love using their guns and look for every opportunity to use one. Shooting innocent dogs is a perk to them.
But the police union immediately began crying because they thought it could potentially lead to reduced police budgets in the future and they got the Republican state legislature to pass laws protecting the full scope of police responsibility.
This was the entire premise of Defund the Police, and we all saw how that played out. You can't take responsibilities away from cops just because they're bad at it, they'll fight you tooth and nail and conservative media will gladly take their side and lie about it.
America is so backasswards.... Failed state on so many levels.
- thank you for using loops
- firebomb that station
fucking dumb ass pigs
wow such heroes, I am sure kids look up to them.
Jesus can we please get a content warning for Dead Dog? I did NOT need to see that 😢