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Leak Exposes Members of Peter Thiel’s Secretive ‘Dialog’ Society

16h 52m ago by lemmy.world/u/return2ozma in aboringdystopia from www.wired.com

I think that concentrating too much wealth / power into a person’s hands affects their mental health. The stuff billionaires focus on behind closed doors would be considered psychosis in a homeless person, but they articulate it on fancy stages and suddenly it’s normalized. Power and money control needs to be as decentralized as possible. Even if it means things move slower, it’s better than unilateral power in the hands of a small group of malignant narcissists surrounded by sycophants.

I think that concentrating too much wealth / power into a person’s hands affects their mental health.

I think cause and effect are exactly opposite here: you have to be exceptionally, sociopathically greedy to want to become that rich, and then work towards it. Imagine all the actively harmful and antisocial decisions each billionaire has to make to increase their wealth. I believe most people just aren't cut out for it.

But of course wealth/power then serves as an amplifier.

It's definitely this. The Venn diagram between psychopaths and billionaires is a circle. Hell it's almost a circle just with CEOs in general.

The lack of empathy is a massive advantage to operating in the corporate world.

I'm not sure, I think money does corrupt all but the steeliest of hearts. Right now I wish I made a little more so we could accomplish several goals we want. Once those are done, there are loftier long-term goals! Like many, I doubt I'll ever be satisfied with my income, because I'm ambitious in the rest of my life. If I won a million dollars, I like to think I'd be satisfied because I could get those things done, although I'd still have to work. But... at that point I'd want more, so I could retire early and have more time to spend on the rest of my life. Now if somehow I got that much money - I like to think I'd be satisfied. But we can see time and again how that doesn't happen. There'd be something else just out of reach. Our capability to want is near endless, and it's a hunger that gets worse the more you feed it.

So really I don't fool myself into thinking I'm immune to it, and I'm not a sociopath.

To be clear, Thiel was A Bad Dude from the get-go, but his impact and influence has expanded immensely since he made his nut in the PayPal era (he’s one of the OG PayPal mafia, along with phony stark)

The retreat is scheduled for August 12-16 at a venue near Dublin, Ireland.

The Irish'll know what to do.

Notable people on the Thiel List pulled from maia arson crimew’s Bluesky post:

Chamath Palihapitiya

Neal Mohan, CEO of YouTube

Charlie Songhurst, board director at Meta

Peter Brown, CEO, Renaissance Technologies

Sarah Bond, President of XBOX, Microsoft

Manuel Bronstein, chief product officer of Roblox

Greg Brockman, Co-founder of OpenAI, fmr CTO of Stripe

Mike Cannon-Brooks, Co-founder of Atlassian

Scott Cook, co-founder & chairman at Intuit

NJ Senator Cory Booker

TX Senator Ted Cruz

CO Governor Jared Polis

CT Rep. Jim Himes

MD Gov. Wes Moore

Tom Tugendhat, Member of Parliament, United Kingdom.

Tulsi Gabbard

Julian Castro

Jared Kushner

Elon Musk

LEONARD LEO

Grover Norquist

Bret Stephens (Associate Editor of the New York Times)

Larry Summers

Ezra Klein

Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent

Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic

Jon Levin, President, Stanford University.

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Fmr. Prime Minister, Pakistan. Founder, Airblue.

Stan McChrystal, Founder & CEO, McChrystal Group. Fmr. General, U.S. Army.

Rachel Brand, Chief Legal Officer & Corporate Secretary, Walmart. Fmr. Associate Attorney General, U.S Department of Justice.

Link to the list shared on Bluesky.

There is overlap between that Dialog member list and the Epstein files. I don't have time to go through it right now, but at first glance just skimming the Bluesky list, Larry Summers is in the Epstein files, as is Peter Attia.

I'd bet anything they're not the only ones on both, either. If I get the opportunity I'll look through it later and see if I can spot more.

WTF is Jared Polis doing on this list? Maybe that explains his out of the blue decision to grant clemency to Tina Peters

Shame on you Wes Moore.

Sarah bond? Damn, They just can’t stop being evil.

https://nogamesforgenocide.com/

Fuck Xbox

Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com, and “Build-a-Party,” run by a former White House national security official.

Well... I don't like that.

"elites"

those session titles are lame. these people are losers.

Ireland! Do your thing!

They just have to be lucky once