Google is testing a new CAPTCHA that asks you to make hand gestures on camera
8h 31m ago by lemmy.today/u/StopTech in technology from cybernews.com
that’s gonna be a “nope” from me, dawg.
Easy!
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"Drink verification can."
Fuck. That. No website is worth that.
Ppl say this with such conviction but what about your bank website? What if it becomes industry standard and you have no other options? Just going to keep all your money in cash?
I changed banks when they asked for 2FA.
Why?
I refuse to have a phone line. I only get one for a month when I'm looking for a job. Got tired of paying a subscription fee just to get spam calls. All my communication is done through messaging apps and the only time I don't have access to wifi is when I'm driving.
And because SMS 2FA is actually opening a common attack vector. I have yet to find a credit union I qualify for that uses TOTP or Yibikey.
That still requires getting personal information about the user, which is often enough without 2FA. 2FA still makes it more secure than not having it. It's still a vulnerable step though, so users should be aware of that.
Start talking to someone at the credit Union. They are run by people, you might be able to convince them the risk and implement a safer method
Just a heads up, you can get a free phone number from Google, and probably other providers. If you've got a computer of some kind and an internet connection, you can make calls and texts from there. If that's all you're getting a phone for, don't bother with the actual device.
https://support.google.com/voice/answer/115061?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop
In Sweden the banks offer a choice between an app and a hardware token. You can just go with the token then.
I have a hard time believing all banks, including local credit unions, will simultaneously adopt this tech. And if they all do, maybe will I have to consider cash after all. But in the meantime, I'll switch to a banking solution that doesn't.
Fair enough. But I wasn't picturing them simultaneously doing it.
Enshittification is a contagious disease that spreads slowly.
Right, so I'll bank with the ones that aren't doing this bullshit. If they want my money they won't do it, simple as.
I'll drive to the fucking bank if I need them.
French banks don't have that kind of external captcha. They are paranoid about it for good reasons. Also fuck Google, they are not worth it.
Ppl say this with such conviction but what about your bank website?
Prepaid debit cards exist. Load money at any convenience store. You can even get a routing number/account number for it so you can direct deposit to it. You call a number to check your balance or lock your card.
What if it becomes industry standard and you have no other options?
There's no such thing on the internet. Most lemmy instances with a captcha use hcaptcha or similar since its cheaper (free, in fact), as an example.
What about investments?
Loading prepaid debit cards at gas stations sounds like a rough life. I'd like to think that I'd have more conviction for privacy if it came to that, but everyone has their line I guess.
What about investments?
Doesn't affect 90+% of people, and the remaining population frankly doesn't deserve privacy since they don't have anything to complain about.
Loading prepaid debit cards at gas stations sounds like a rough life. I’d like to think that I’d have more conviction for privacy if it came to that, but everyone has their line I guess.
Genuinely not bad unless you're a complete shut-in. It's also how the bottom 20% of Americans deal with online bill pay and interact financially with the digital world.
If you're living under capitalism and not investing in any way, that's not really some noble act, it's you voluntarily staying broke and dependent on others in the future.
Should at least have some form of retirement fund going so you don't have to leech off the taxes paid by the young when you're old.
If you’re living under capitalism and not investing in any way, that’s not really some noble act, it’s you voluntarily staying broke and dependent on others in the future.
I'll let you know when I magically have spare money in the worst global economy since the great depression.
Should at least have some form of retirement fund going so you don’t have to leech off the taxes paid by the young when you’re old.
No one checks their 401k often. Most people don't consider that investment given its a scam they likely won't ever cash in.
USA people don’t have a state pension?
Depends on the job. Some state employees get pensions, yes. Private employers usually do not provide pensions. The majority of people are going to get Social Security after they reach a certain age, but only if they've worked for a certain number of years. And Social Security can be as little as $1200/month. (It was never intended to be someone's sole income in retirement, just a supplement.)
You get social security if that's what you mean, but chances are the boomers will drain it all before my generation gets a whiff at it. And it's ass anyway.
Man you sound so brainwashed to me. Very American.
You have to be pragmatic in life and play the hand you are dealt. I'm a commi at heart but not playing the capitalist circus just makes you homeless, not smart.
There's some pretty obvious middle ground before making a deposit to the First National Bank of My Mattress. You could find a different bank that doesn't use those captchas, or even do all your banking in person.
The tech giant says the system only analyzes hand-movement points from a short video, does not record audio, and deletes the footage after verification.
It's just a short video guys, there's even no audio! And they pinky promise to delete it.
What a fucking shitshow that is. Like, honestly, I'm fine with regular captchas, even if they are the shitty ones. The newer (?) captchas that force you to do solve 5 bullshit "place this there" captchas are already reason enough for me to just leave the site. But if you force me to record a video of me throwing gang signs at the camera, probably several times again, because the movement was not correctly identified, I'm sure as fuck to never visit anything related to you ever again.
I also love the irony that Google fights people bots, while they are scraping the whole internet and investing into AI automation massively.
If they do delete the video, they might still take a screen capture or something.
You just know that video is going to be turned into training data of some kind or another. I think visual and audio versions will be around forever, and I hear that you can enter inaccurate words in the audio prompt and still get through. Might as well train it funny if you must train it at all.
Asks you to make gang signs and automatically adds you to the ICE database.
This is the automation we have all been waiting for
Im so sick of this stuff.
Time to go live in a van by the river.
Turn off your computer. Reject technology and return to analog life.
Did you somehow post this from a typewriter
OP has a friemd who gets the typenwritten posts by carrier pidgeon, don't you?
Here you go. 🖕
I have a hand gesture for it.
... I have no camera.
This new CAPTCHA's prejudicial and exclusionary.
Not to mention grotesquely invasive.
Some people have no hands. Are those people supposed to wave their stump around? What about people who don't even have stumps?
Do they need to capture my face as well?
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I don't care what site it is but if i get that popup i won't be visiting that site anymore.
I now mess around with all captchas. Each time a site asks me to find x or click on y. I purposely click the wrong ones to help feed the algorithm!
I think you're about 20 years too late to have any impact
No cam on my pc...
(and I'm not even going to tell this little fact to them)
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Drink verification can.
When this can be faked in the near future, they'll be asking for ass thermometers and anus gestures.
Gemini in a sultry voice: "Insert the probe and have a sissygasm to prove you are human"
Please remain still while we calibrate... the nozzle.
Definitely trying to make hands less fake looking
no, they just want pictures of you doing gang signs, just in case they arrest you
I can think of only one gesture
No.
I’m just gonna moon the camera.
Don't give Google ideas for sphincter detection...
Are they unique, like fingerprints? What a great idea!
/s obviously
Connaisseurs know: they are. Engineers are still working on a major roadblock though: the model fails to tell the CEO's face from his ass, and it's not a technological problem...
They are, actually, same way the iris in your eye is unique.
Nice input for their AI generative models...
This is the biggest "hell no" thing I'll probably see this week.
= they are looking to improve AI hands
Lmfao anything to try to get a snap of your face.
Easy in theory to nope out of such insanity with their websites and optional apps. Except for Android users... where every "fuck Google!" cry meets the reality of a captive audience.
(Apple is no better and third-party OS's tend to break banking, government, etc, apps. 😬)
Shit man, I'll run GrapheneOS and use a fucking checkbook to manually keep track of my finances before doing some shit like in the OP
I'll give em a hand gesture alright.
Please rub the verification can to continue.
Yes dance for me human
I guess I’ll have to get good at the google gang sign.
Sounds like googles got a model that can mimic human hand gestures really well and want to prevent other companies from being able to scrape the Internet for AI training
Well, be prepared to be flipped off a lot. It's what I did whenever Instagram or Facebook asked for a video verification of sorts.
Imagine if this leads to all people in AI images flipping you off.
welp, guess I won't be looking at those things, then. DuckDuckGo it is.
DuckDuckGo won't save you - all those "pick the crosswalk" captchas? Google owns that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA
well, right now, google is demanding who knows how many captchas before it will do my search; DDG is not. So that's what I'm using. -quak-
What, so we can help fix the hands?
Google self driving cameras about to recognize the number one sign very well.
Well, I will have to start looking for alternative services, I guess
Wonder if you will get shadow banned if you flip it off..
No thank you.