Many live service games are just an MMO subscription "hidden inside of a neat 'optional' package", argue Guild Wars 3 devs in a post about the new game's monetisation
10h 7m ago by lemmy.zip/u/GamingBot in gaming@lemmy.zip from www.rockpapershotgun.com
There won't be any battle passes in Guild Wars 3. There will be paid expansions, paid cosmetics, paid account services, and paid "time-saving convenience items". A less generous interpretation of Johanson's post would be that some of these things are manifestations of the "hidden" subscription mentality he's knocking.
So we dont like live service crap because they just shifted the monthly sub to other things. Anyway, buy the cosmetics/services/'time saving items' from us! Def not the same live service bullshit those other guys are doing lmao.
time-saving convenience items
"We made this problem so we can sell you the solution"
I would rather a monthly subscription over micro transaction crap tbh.
I mean one is literally required to play the game, the other does not.
So depending on what micro transactions are available, it seems worse to require a monthly sub then have truly optional/cosmetic mtx
RuneScape can be played without a subscription. Tbh the model they used to use in the past was great. Think it's full of micro transactions now though.
if a game requires money after it's bought, it's not worth it... subscription or in-game stores. both are equally as bad.
I pay once.. that's it. expansions/dlc are fine because I'm not REQUIRED to get it. if the game just... stops because I didn't get the dlc, you bet your ass I'm never buying from them again.
Exactly my feelings as well, even "time saving" MTX is insidious because it provides an incentive for the developers to slow progress to entice users to buy the mtx.
I'm mostly fine with cosmetic-only MTX but that's because I'm able to control my impulses on buying those kinds of things the majority of the time, unfortunately I have known people who are not good at impulse control and end up spending literally thousands of dollars on bullshit cosmetics. They don't even play the game they spent all that money on anymore.
unfortunately I have known people who are not good at impulse control
I was still playing WoW when Blizzard sold a 90$ mount on the shop, NINETY $, on top of the sub and paid xpacs.
The same day it was available, half of the playerbase got it, people are just stupid.
Status symbols
Not only that, but in GW2 they ended up doing shady stuff like locking additional equipment slots behind latest xpacs and making latest xpacs builds the best so, unless you're super-uber casual and never play group content, you're de-facto forced to buy everything they release.
Now, an MMO is very expensive to maintain so it's fine to pay for it, but the article is the most hypocritical statement I've ever seen.
Except half these games aren't even massive smh