I'm probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don't see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.
Yeah Sync for Reddit is shutting down at the end of the month, so I'll go back and save some of my favorites and then officially get off Reddit for good come July.
I may still end up on Reddit if I'm looking for information, since it's still a good repository of information from the past decade. But once third-party apps go down and I can no longer access reddit easily on my mobile, I no longer plan to contribute. I'll delete my accounts and be a lurker.
Same here. It’s been good whilst it lasted. Won’t be using Reddit once Apollo stops working.
I'm kind if shocked subs didn't have a lemmy community already in mind when they went dark. Just a sign that they ate doing their token protest and the lb back to business as usual in the next few days.
No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.
For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is "one big universal conversation" and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.
I'm not here because lemmy is better right now, but because I want to move towards open platforms and a better future. It's an investment. Deciding to move right back to reddit 2 days after they just stabbed you in the back is shortsighted in the extreme. Reddit will not stop until it devours itself and you along with it. Disabling the API is only the latest in a long line of anti-user changes in favor of money, and you can be sure there's more on the horizon.
I'd encourage anyone who isn't 100% satisfied with lemmy and its user experience right now to give it some leeway, because you're comparing the experience to reddit apps that have had years and years of polish. With a community and donations to servers and developers, we can quickly fix the most egregious papercuts. These are growing pains, and they won't last forever.
I can guarantee I won't be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.
Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I'll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.
I’m hoping Apollo does the same.
And have them blackmail the Fediverse? I think not!
“$10 mil and I’ll make the app.”
I'm a Reddit mod and Sync is one of my favorite apps, so that's exciting news! The ONLY reason I have the official Reddit app on my phone is to stay up to date on my chats when they come in.
What’s the main thing keeping you on old (vs “new”) Reddit?
Impossible to say now, but definitely quite a lot of them are not going to be regular users. I still hope/believe the majority will stay though.
The community here is much better IMHO
Much less toxic (I'm not talking about lemmygrad)
What’s wrong with lemmygrad? I haven’t been there yet so I don’t know.
It’s like r/The_Donald but on the opposite end of the political spectrum
I describe it better as stethoscope theory.
and that's a feature haha
I have no intention of installing the official Reddit app. I’ve used Apollo for years and I’ll leave once it’s no longer an option. The way Reddit treated the Apollo developer is inexcusable.
I managed to quit Twitter, I’m certain I can quit Reddit too.
I'm sure there will be a huge downtick, but there's also people like me who heard about Lemmy because of Reddit but this is totally something I'd support. Now that I know it's here, I have a source for my cat videos and obscure video game recommendations, I don't really need the activity and tumult of Reddit. I'm sure there are dozens like me. Dozens.
What community is for game recommendations?
I've only been here for about an hour, but I've found two different patientgamers instances... jury's still out on which one I like better.
What do you follow for cat videos?
I'm still sorting that out, thus far I have just assumed that there will be cat videos. It's basically one of the safest assumptions of the internet.
Probably a good chunk, I don't mean to be pessimistic either but that's how it usually works on "big" movements.
Some people follow the flow because they're caught into the enthusiasm of the moment while not being actually convinced about what they're doing, those people are highly likely to go back when things are back to normal (tho in my opinion reddit will never be "normal" again).
How many they are is impossible to tell.
The blackout is only the first wave, there will be another one IMO when 3rd party apps actually shutdown (June 30th), after that, things will settle and population on lemmy will lower, that's not a bad thing IMO, it doesn't do any good to have people here that don't actually want to be here.
As for me, since I joined I'm doing my best to be involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore and not care anymore when they'll break old.reddit (they will like their doing with the API).
I already feel at home here, I'm not going drastic as to nuke my reddit account or anything, tho I'll most probably make a GDPR request and leave for good.
I’ll still always rely on Reddit for obscure answers to questions when googling, but I plan on staying with Lemmy once Apollo is taken down. I’ve been trying it out and adjusting to it during the blackout and as long as the community stays somewhat consistent, I like it here more. Reminds me of when I first joined Reddit over a decade ago.
I usually wont quit an app over changes like this but Reddit to me is different. I like Reddit for being a place to find new communities to join and interact with what’s popular, and since the spez ama and the removal of 3rd party apps I just don’t trust it to stay that way anymore. The last thing I want to see Reddit become is another infinite scrolling content feed that an algorithm thinks you’ll like so you never want to stop scrolling. And I’m assuming since they just want to seek profit that’s what it will eventually become.
We need to educate users and Reddit people to really understand how Lemmy works, and why it's good. People keep giving the email analogy but that may not be enough. I still see a lot of users asking if they need to have an account on every Lemmy instance. We need to explain simply that :
- You can sub a community that is not local ;
- There can be two community that are called the same but on different instance (ie: asklemmy@lemmy.ml and asklemmy@lemmy.world) ;
- Same is for your username. We should also give tips on how to find an instance that is relevant for you and how to find communities.
I like that image that visually represents how subreddits live inside one giant Reddit circle, but communities on Lemmy live inside several circles. You can access all subreddits, and you can access all communities, as far as the users need to be concerned with there's no difference except for more variety.
But for that to truly be easy to use the apps and web interface need major leaps forward.
I feel like that last sentence is the most important for me. I was a Reddit /r/all lurker. I just kind of wanted something to look at, latest news, etc. It'd be nice if I could just sign up under an instance which is focused on providing that basic content. Trying to find communities and subscribe to them is a little cumbersome.
Also, though, I'm concerned about scalability. If every Lemmy user wants to subscribe to something like "latest news", aren't they all going to want to sub to the same community on the same instance? Isn't that instance going to become prohibitively expensive to run?
I was a Reddit /r/all lurker. I just kind of wanted something to look at, latest news, etc. It’d be nice if I could just sign up under an instance which is focused on providing that basic content. Trying to find communities and subscribe to them is a little cumbersome.
I haven't really been looking at it to see how well it's working, but this page was built to mimic r/all. It aggregates from these communities as described here.
So no, you **don't need **multiple accounts, one for each instance.
If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.
I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.
In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.
If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.
At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.
Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.
I agree, I do hope Lemmy strives tbh. When there is more content, there is more traction. Let’s just keep these discussions going and spread the word around. I talk to my coworkers during lunch break about the Reddit blackout and told them about Lemmy (but I usually start the conversation with “do you use Reddit”)
I actually want certain subreddits to go live again precisely because I can link users to Lemmy. Right now there are many communities whose members are feeling lost without Reddit - not because of a love for reddit, but because it was the only group for that community. Show them Lemmy and some could migrate, even if slowly.
Some subs are pointing to Lemmy. The Star Trek instance is awesome , less about complaining about the shows, more about fun trek stuff. Fell in love
People hate changing their routine.
They'll have no choice if they use a third-party app.
No RiF, no old.reddit, no coming back.
I already know RIF is gone. I'm operating on the assumption that old.reddit will be gone soon.
Even with old.reddit, you still get karma bots and rampant native advertising and corporate bullshittery that I won't miss.
I'm ready to cast off reddit and forge ahead to the next platform, even if I know the journey will be a bit rocky at first.
Wow I didn't know they were canning old.reddit.
They aren't - yet. But it's only a matter of time.
I don't think they've said they will, it's just a popular theory.
Spez claimed in his AMA that it's "not going anywhere."
In my estimation, that means it's as good as dead already.
Mostly everyone who will try kbin/lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Unreal how bad the UI/UX is considering the time they've had to copy Reddit.
Lemmy
- Posts are randomly added realtime when scrolling the main page making it unbearable
- Subscribed/trending community list is a weird unaligned logo+text instead of a normal scrollable list
Kbin
- How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed "magazines"? The magazines tab just shows you list of everything and going under your subscriptions shows posts from every magazine I am subscribed to instead of letting me click on the specific magazine
"Fediverse"
- Content propagation from other instances is slow(?) I want to subscribe to cs@kbin.social but beehaw still can't find it - maybe I don't understand it well enough and it's just a temporary issue
your fediverse problem is because kbin.social had to temporarily defederate because its hardware couldn't keep up with demand
Do note that a lot of this is created and maintained by people who don't have it as a full-time job and who likely have not experienced the surge of users that are currently moving from reddit. There are growing pains, there are going to be more, that's an unfortunate fact of the matter.
I think what will end up as a "make or break" factor for most is whether you believe in the underlying concept or not. Basically, do you believe in having a form of social media that is independent and federated, or do you prefer one that is centralized.
All this probably doesn't ease your frustrations but I think we all need to try to be patient at this point in time. Do come with constructive criticism, that is almost always beneficial, but be aware that it's gonna take time to get everything sorted.
How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed “magazines”?
Yeah its currently awful. You have to go into Settings -> Subscriptions. I've filed two bugs for this:
I'm sorry but this is the wrong attitude. His concerns are legitimate, even if somewhat poorly expressed, and they are just some among many. If Lemmy and the fediverse at large wants to grow and see wider adoption, there needs to be a way to tackle these issues, or be more transparent as to why they won't be tackled in the near future, or never.
For what it's worth, I am going to stick around despite the issues, because I see there's a drive to improve and so I expect Lemmy and other fediverse platforms to get better with time, while I expect reddit to keep getting more and more worse with time, and I'm done taking that abuse.
Cause the subreddits I'm interested in are private at the moment? What is this question lol
Bad take.
Someone can point out the issues that lead to their dissatisfaction without it being a case of "then you should leave".
I don't think that's the sort of attitude we should be adopting in this community, and certainly not at this stage in the game.
I will likely go where Reddit Sync goes. I don't really mind if the content here isn't as vast as on Reddit, if I have Sync I have all that I need
Same. It would be great if the Sync dev goes through with switching to Lemmy. That would be perfect for me.
Oh right, until then I'm actually using this platform straight from the browser. It's actually working good enough for me that way.
Same. I have a filter list in sync that's been building for a decade now and I question the sanity of anyone who browses reddit without filtering out like half of it.
Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it
I've been using Jerboa on Android, it works quite well! I especially appreciate the "all" feed where you can see posts from all instances.
A bit difficult to know if the app or the instance is bugging out when something goes wrong, but I've realized it's mostly the instance (lemmy.ml). I assume it's because all of us Reddit users have come over!
Been using Jerboa for a week and so far so good. So I'm staying here for the long run.
I prefer the mobile website over that app. It works, yes, but I really don't like the UI and UX. I hope we start getting more alternatives and Jebroa also keeps improving!
Same, the community here is also much nicer
If there's one demographic of users likely to stick with the fediverse it's going to be redditors.
What makes you say that?
I'd say it's the fact that even as time has gone on and reddit has gotten more casual users there is still a much higher percentage of "hardcore" users on Reddit versus other social media. Or at the very least the hardcore users have a lot more influence then on other social medias, since they're the ones more likely to be posting content lots of people see and moderating content. As well as those users being a lot more likely to be willing to learn a new more complicated platform and more likely to be directly affected by 3rd part apps shutting down. This all combined means that the hardcore users the platform relies on are more likely to leave to places like here and without them will make the website worse and cause more casual users to leave.
I don't think the kind of people who are willing to try out some geeky experiment of a social network are totally dependent on Reddit culture.
Exodus from one network to another (or to nowhere) is a thing that's happened in the past, and if anything, people aren't willing to go back once they finally take the effort.
Tho I'm guessing lots of people have multiple accounts such as alts for r34, and may keep using those until Reddit finally shuts off all nsfw.
This is still a new frontier of site conglomeration we have no data for. If anything we have contradicting data to previous instances of this occurring because megasites have yet to fail since the rise of Facebook.
There have been MySpace -> FB, Digg -> Reddit, Viber -> WhatsApp, Hotmail -> Gmail, BlackBerry -> iPhone. Neither was 100% conversion, some kept their relevancy in certain markets, but those were quite some waves.
Also, Tumblr completely kicked the bucket with its users dispersing, and while OF managed to save itself by backtracking, people were already migrating to other services.
It may be true that the likes of FB, Twitter and Reddit are too big to fail right now, but people also keep finding alternatives.
So, we'll see.
There's still no mainstream competitor for Reddit. I love Lemmy, but the idea that someone with little to no computer expirence is going to find it easy to join and use is laughable.
Tumblr still seems like just as popular as it ever was tbh. They rolled back the nsfw ban enough that you can post lewds but not full scale porn and people seem happy with it.
Yes we’ve had migrations but again nothing significant post 2010. Even digg was nothing like modern web megasites.
i still remember my migration from myspace. it felt like i was losing something... with reddit, i'm much more ok with it. a place is just a place and i'll find another sub with users similar to the ones i interacted with on reddit.
I think it's really better in here. People are more friendly, there's a general feeling of being part of something. Problem is, there is a MASSIVE disparity in terms of content. Reddit has been around for a long time, and has a shit ton of users constantly posting. I really want to stay here, but I think it's gonna be a rough experience for a few months at least.
People are more friendly
That might just be because the masses haven't come into Lemmy yet, despite how much the Lemmy community has grown over the past couple of days. With any community, toxicity comes with mass popularity.
How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?
Most.
90% of the engagement I've seen regarding Lemmy is "Why isn't this Reddit and work exactly the same as Reddit? When WILL it work exactly the same as Reddit?"
I'm already seeing hostility a la "Well I guess we'll see if the devs LiStEn To ThIeR uSeRs" in regards to communities getting tied to a central authority, aka the thing this was explicitly designed to not do. I've been offloading my data and such to self hosted options for a few years now where I can anyway, so I'm down to stay, but I DO look forward to the end of the protest and the Reddit stans going home like nothing happened like they were always going to. > How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?
I like to think that Lemmy is transitioning from early adopters to First Followers (to take from this Ted talk
If only 10% of new users stay, they start to build out new servers and communities. As Reddit continues to degrade, some (maybe even most) of those 90% will start to trickle back, creating lasting growth and widespread adoption (vs the casual tourism).
Just before all this blackout stuff started lining up I got a week ban for abusing reports on a report they agreed with and actioned. I've been pretty over Reddit anyway so here we are lets goooooo lol
@EndOfLine you might want to look at this thread by @atomicpoet
https://atomicpoet.org/objects/8e64c446-1331-433f-9ee3-e70ada95a091
Talks a lot about what you mean.
I really agree with your sentiment, speaking as someone who joined back in November in the earlier waves from Twitter.
90% of the engagement I’ve seen regarding Lemmy is “Why isn’t this Reddit and work exactly the same as Reddit? When WILL it work exactly the same as Reddit?”
I definitely think the activity here will slowly drop over the next 1-2months, but it's been pretty good these few days. We're even talking about things unrelated to that site.
Here's hoping. I'm going to nuke my Reddit account when I have time to look into those mass deletion tools, but been scrolling Reddit out of habit in the meantime about 50/50. quite frankly, all the mods backing down because while they vehemently disagree with everything to the point of protest but not enough to actually risk their digital power and leave if they get replaced makes me extra glad I'm leaving.
I'm staying here, the community is way better. I'll use both but only post and comment on Lemmy
Yeah higher population is not always better anyway.
It's not always better but you need a minimum number of user base to discuss things. I follow subreddits like r/soccer where a lot of discussions take place among fans of different clubs. If there's only 10-15 people discussing it, I might have to stick with reddit :/
In such a large sub such as /r/soccer, there must be multiple fascinating discussions and commentary. But ask yourself: are you actually participating in the discussion, or merely observing it?
Yes you can write a comment somewhere high up and hope to get a reply, but your voice is a drop in a sea of endless fans.
In a smaller community, the discussion might not be so top level, but you are forced to think and actively engage more
I didn't even know there was a fediverse reddit alternative until the blackout, so that's why I'm here. But if I had known lemmy was a thing before now I would have moved earlier. If the communities here that interest me don't fizzle out I'll stay, I would guess a lot of others are in the same boat.
The amount of communities and engagement are great at the moment. Just need a decent app on the iOS side (I’m aware of mlem). The website is a bit more feature packed so far. Super missing Apollo and I’d pay a large sum in subscription fees, which I hate, if they got it working on Lemmy. Either way I won’t go back to Reddit. Spez is a lying POS.
I'm staying; I primarily use Reddit on mobile - once RIF is gone, I'm gone. I am not using the official app even if they pay me.
This is where I'm at as well. RIF user that will continue to check in as long as the app functions, but I'm definitely transitioning to here.
Will it take some getting used to? Sure, but I am appreciating the smaller sense of community at this time. I also appreciate the warm welcomes, and hope that those that stick around remember to wipe their shoes on the way in. Don't want to be rude guests :).
Whatever happens, once RIF is offline I won't have the muscle memory and habit of opening it. And RIF was the only way I access Reddit, it's a pain in the ass using Reddit on a mobile browser and their app sucks. So I'm just gonna stop using Reddit daily. I'll still wander in from Google when looking stuff up, but I won't be on it daily anymore.
Yeah. If things go as planned this is just a teaser for July 1.
Same here. Currently using Jerboa and it's close enough to RIF to be easy enough in transition. It's been difficult to not absentmindedly open RIF but the second I do I'm greeted by blackout posts and remember to close it. I've only ever used the desktop site at work when looking stuff up and see Reddit in the results, but I've been testing the water with chat gpt lately for how-to type stuff and it's been interesting.
That's how I'm also planning on using Reddit after the shutdown. I'm fully planning on shredding my Reddit data after getting a personal copy as well.
This was me. I was addicted to RIF and would scroll it for hours. I've barely used Reddit through desktop or mobile site. To me, shutting down RIF is the same as shutting down Reddit
That's me too. I use Sync and I tried the official app for a few days to feel it out. It's absolute garbage. Once Sync is down I won't be on reddit anymore. At the moment I'm trying to stay off reddit out of principle, but the muscle memory to open and scroll is still strong.
I like Lemmy much more than reddit and found it harder to use before due to the lack of people. Now that there are more people it's even more fun and I'm hoping others feel similarly :) I don't see a reason to go back to reddit
Same. I liked the concept but didn't like that there weren't a lot of people. But now that more people have moved over here I'm going to stick around because I really like it a lot.
As much as I want fediverse to become the norm, the thing is that it doesn't really matter if users switch over - content creators have to switch over. It's the same reason why Mastodon isn't very relevant, very few large names actually moved from Twitter.
I'd think, there is a slight difference of content creators in reddit, vs twitter. In twitter we tend to follow people and the more famous or important they are, the more followers they have. Reddit or Lemmy is focused on linking, noone is necessarily creating content here, but linking to outside sources. In beginning of reddit, I remember most of posts were links, and later on self posts became a thing. Still lots of the posts are pointed to somewhere outside. (hence actually reddit being greedy, to claim they own the content they have in their website, they don't)
Anyway, my bottom line, so a person that is making the content, doesn't need to be here to be seen. Anyone posting a link and any community gathering enough subscribers to start a discussion over a topic is going to be enough to keep us going.
Now some good thing for us here is, even a small community with 5 people talking over a topic, but all of them participating, is enough to keep a community going. I'd say, it is even better than a multi million people community, that our posts/comments, most likely goes unseen.
The only downside is some communities, we need a big presence to have a discussion, and those will be the most difficult to migirate. For example a gaming or tech or a news community of 10 people will still discuss (mostly) the same thing a community of 1000s people would discuss. And the help they provide might be the same. (like how can I beat this game that we all have played)
The problem would be ask advice, or a local community of a city or a country of 10 people will be much limited in topics or the help they can provide, than one of 1000s or more. Hence those might stay in reddit. like AskDoctors, RelationshipAdvice, AskMen, ...
For me also hobby communities, here would be better, since it will make it easier to be seen/ discuss a topic than a larger community of reddit. On the other hand if mods of those hobby communities of reddit decide to migirate here, would cause all their members to move as well. (hobbies like simracing, VR gaming, 3d printing, ....). For these also discord is not a bad place. For example in a discord server of a 3d printing youtube channel, I get much better interaction and help, than the reddit r/3dprinting.
To be fair, there's been a decent amount of content, and the rate of it is getting noticeably higher in the past week I've been on here as time goes on.
June 30th is a hard stop date for mobile usage on reddit, tho. I will not down load their app, nor will I start paying a monthly subscription for relay. I'll use old.redditon browser for some local subs every once in awhile, but it's not like I really have much of a choice if I don't want to use the official app. I imagine I'm not alone in that, and I'd guess a lot of the old guard die hards feel the same.
I mean look, I've used reddit the same way for about a decade now - shoehorning me into an environment that is multitudes worse just isn't going to happen. Not to mention - moderating and overall quality is going to nosedive. People are going to go back, but it's pretty clear at this point that reddit is bleeding to death. Things are going to be rough on the new tech for a year, but it'll get there. It's not the first time this has happened
As much as I want to say fuck reddit completely but there are still a lot of niche subreddits I'm subscribed to so it's gonna be very hard to cut off reddit completely. Hoping Lemmy starts to take off and more people migrate over here so I can finally fully terminate my reddit account.
If you have the will you can do it. Even if not all communities are here yet, that could be a plus because at least for me reddit was a huge time sink without much benefit, there are better uses for my time
I'm going to try my darnedest to not go back on Reddit. I'm sure I'm just a drop in the bucket for them, but it's the principle of the thing. Same thing with Netflix and their recent household bs. Even though I got a discounted plan / free plan for fewer screens with my phone plan, I canceled because I don't want to give them a single cent. I found myself habitually opening Reddit yesterday on my phone and then immediately closing it, so I forced myself to delete Sync :(
Still trying to get used to Lemmy but gotta rip off that Reddit band-aid and start using this more. The biggest thing I'll miss is just how widespread Reddit was. If I had a specific question, typically Googling my question and appending "reddit" at the end would do the trick lol. Hopefully engagement here can slowly build up to that one day.
Putting 'reddit' in a Google search is genuinely the only way to find a good discussion on most things nowadays.
Let's hope lemmy gets to this point in the future.
For me I plan on replacing it entirely and staying. Do I think this place is going to ultimately usurp reddit no. Do I think that lemmy will be able to provide for me everything I used to get on reddit maybe but certainly not immediately. But it's nice to be in a smaller setting it's nice to have less drama and I honestly just prefer fed style now that I understand it. Getting rid of suits in charge and ads in our faces is more than enough to keep me here even if there's not as much content.
The Twitter > Mastodon tech migration felt similar, if not smaller, and I’m much happier on Mastodon now. Less toxic, more positive. I don’t miss Twitter at all. Hopefully this migration is similar.
Same for me. I do still have the RIF app installed but as soon as I can't use it... Well it's gone for me. I like Lemmy more this far. For me the small space communities was what I was there for though. Some of the more niche stuff might not come over but I have discords for most of those anyway.
To be honest I came here because of the blackout. I intend to stay. I have already been more active here than in years lurking on Reddit!
I have to image that most people with no intention of staying would not make accounts. Registered users are probably at least contemplating staying here for more than a couple of days. So the question for me is: will the communities here build a critical mass to sustain themselves after the blackout?
For me personally it's very simple. I will keep using Lemmy if there is enough activity to be worth it. I don't need it to be perfect or as active as Reddit or whatever. Just meaningful enough to warrant my time. I will keep my Reddit account for the time being, though.
It depends on how many communities migrate from reddit to lemmy. I will definitely not return to reddit on mobile once third party apps are shut down, but if reddit changes their stance and third party apps come back, I may go back if most of my communities haven’t migrated to lemmy.
I'd wager most will go back. But Lemmy might retain a pretty substantial amount of its new users. I for one want to stay here, but we'll see how many content-creating users return to Reddit after the blackout.
Personally, I like it here and will probably stick around. I hope the servers can scale, and that new communities grow.
I'll still wind up looking at Reddit for meme content until it turns up here. There's a lack of goofy pointless shit here currently.
Every day, I open jerboa and see like 5x more communities with a lot of activity. If we can keep up this level of growth for another week or so, then i don't think I'll miss Reddit much. Especially if i really have to download the official app. On the other hand, if Reddit backs down at the last minute and agrees to allow third party apps, then i could see lemmy users going back to Reddit out of habit.
What is reddit again?
Sounds like a book club to me.
Even if I get bored here, I won’t go back.
I don't want to go back to reddit but as it stands now I don't see Lemmy/mastadon being it's replacement. You didn't have to read a manual to browse reddit. It was much more intuitive.
@Korlock @nodsocket I get what you’re saying, the internet’s always been like that. But it’s ultimately the internet themselves who pay the end price like now.
RSS was widely accepted, until google made something convenient. Now we’re back to established sites getting first dibs on what you see like old media. Then theres XMPP, man.. google.. Googles tender embrace turned into deadly smothering.
You can see websites attempting the same thing as Tumblr adds ActivityPub.
I think I'll have a look in a couple of days. But if they go through and kill 3rd party apps that's goodbye from me.
Agreed.
Old.reddit is OK on desktop. But on a mobile browser, it is constantly harassing you to the official app, which is absolutely terrible.
When Relay stops working, I don't see myself going back to reddit much at all.
I feel like Lemmy (like mastodon) has already achieved enough activity to continue regardless of what happens. Users may go back, but this place will remain somewhat active going forward.
Doesn't really matter honestly. I'm staying not because of the migration but because the shut down was the motivation I needed to learn this. And really I think the people who belong here will stay which is exactly how it should be. If people are looking for another reddit this isn't reddit and that's totally fine.
I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually
I'm never going back (Besides to delete my account).
Lemmy reminds me of when I first joined Reddit. There isn't a constantly changing frontpage (yet). The communities are smaller, but thats a good thing. I actually want to participate.
I've drunk the koolaid. I'm considering starting an instance for my personal professional community that I lost since the pandemic.
Mastodon didnt click for me, but neither did twitter even in its hey-day. Just not my cup of tea. But Lemmy does.
I intend to return after the blackout. At least for the rest of June. It is said multiple times, that this is just the first step for many subreddits.
I will continue using Lemmy and use Reddit only for specific communities. If there is no change in sight on Reddits behalf, the communities can work on travelling to alternatives properly and this needs time and planing.
As of now, this exodus is more like a panicked escape. At least one community I am from means business and I would like to support them as much as possible.
My apologies. I tend to exaggerate when trying to be funny.
I will enjoy the last days that Infinity will be operational, after it gets shuttered I will participate more here. I might go back on reddit every now and then to see what r/okbuddychicanery is up to but that is it.
I have no use for the hot garbage official app otherwise.
As a near strictly mobile only user of Reddit for nearly 10 years, they have made the decision for me by forcing everyone to use their completely horrible app. On the rare occasions at work that a search result populates with a Reddit result, I'll probably still go there, but using an adblocking browser.
To me it is extremely difficult to justify Reddit actually achieving a worthwhile IPO when their product is reliant 100% on user generated content and volunteer moderation. As an investor, I would be concerned about the longevity of a forum that doesn't have adequate moderation tools, shows hostility against their own userbase, and a complete disregard for their own "AMA rules".
Reddit is dead. They have struck their own final blow.
What are you using to browse lemmy?
I'm not a fan of the official reddit app myself, but Jerboa is even worse
It's almost like reddit took a page from the Elon Handbook of Management or something. I think most people will immediately go back to reddit, or try to use both for a bit. People who used something that wasn't the official app may end up here (but maybe not for the same amount of time per day/week/etc).
Whatever it is that reddit wants to monetize about its users via its app specifically is not something I want any part of.
The amount of new content I'm seeing every day should prevent some of that.
I'm seriously shocked at how much Lemmy has blown up over the past couple days.
i expect a much crappier reddit 6 months from now. i won't be able to use reddit without old.reddit and res.
re lemmy, i'm so confused and overwhelmed by it. i wish there was a lingo and activity converter between reddit and lemmy.
I think the real killer will be all the mods leaving when the changes take effect. The official apps literally don't have all of the tools they need to moderate, and since Reddit has been promising to add those things for years (without actually doing it), I don't think they will.
that's good for lemmy. maybe some of the reddit mods will become lemmy mods.
Huh, i'm personally a bit underwhelmed, mostly because of the lack of new content, but I expect it to improve. The way I use Lemmy is that i have the jerboa app, i'm logged in to lemmy.world and I have it set to All so I get content from other instances as well i guess
thanks for the tip. i'm thinking of lemmy as a bunch of small subreddits.
Depends upon how many people come over here and how much content gets posted. If most communities are ghost towns a lot less people will stay, if it stays interesting more people will stay. Long term depends how quickly devs can catch up in terms of features and user experience.
It depends on a lot of factors, depends on twitter response and what the mods chose to do about it.
Personally, with the twitter shenanigans, I stopped paying for their blue thing and don’t use it unless someone links to it. So my Twitter usage has down to the floor.
I may take the same approach to Reddit. There is still time to change course, but I’ll go where the crowd goes, and keep tabs on alternatives. I will stop paying for premium and don’t open it as much, and hope Lemmy keeps me occupied enough.
I think quite a few may, simply because it's what they are used to. But with the clients so many people use for Reddit losing access and old Reddit possibly disappearing as well, for many of us there's not really going to be the same Reddit to go back to.
I'm staying since Apollo is shutting down. You can't pay me to use that reddit app. Been using Mlem, not bad. I like the whole simplicity of it, reminded me of the old reddit from years ago.
@Lurra @nodsocket same wasn’t that interested in Reddit/Twitter until Twitterific/Apollo came out. I tried using the regular twitter app but was too slow, and didn’t leave my feed where I left off last. Apollo was so snappy and I loved save categories.
But the Fediverse has accountability and boundaries. So generally speaking most communities that are connected closely are generally positive. Anything that falls out of line gets blacklisted, so I’ve never felt so at peace.
The users will go where the content is.
If reddit has 90% of the content it will get 90% of the users. If it has 90% of the users they will generate the content.
It's a chicken and the egg problem that will only changes when someone drops the egg.
Well reddit is currently dropping the egg...
I'm probably going to be on both.
It was pretty surprising how easy it was to create an account and a not-to-bad feed. All of the communities I like don't yet exist on lemmy, but there's nothing preventing them from starting up, and the structure is very good.
Reddit has already created a permanent scar in it's user base. This event has seeded a minority of users on lemmy/kbin/whatever. And there will be more again on July 1 when the various 3rd party apps stop working.
Even if reddit just stops there and doesn't do anymore detrimental things to it's user base that scar is permanent. There's enough users on here now to be self-sustaining for a few small communities at least. And anytime in the future that reddit pulls some shit - which given their corporate structure, it looks like they will - more users are going to look for alternatives and many will end up here.
For someone like me - that'll just mean more time here and less time on reddit, until eventually it'll be only on here - just like Digg, just like Fark, just like all the other ones.
I like it here actually.
If my communities end up dying, then I'll be forced to move back but like I said, I like it here
Not planning on going back. I very much prefer open software. Funny that if none of this API nonsense happened I might have never heard of lemmy. Glad to be here.
My only hope is that some more of the communities I enjoyed on Reddit move here, in some fashion.
I used RiF exclusively for reddit, I tried to see how the app was but no, just absolute garbage for me.
It's ok though, I've been in between places before I want to give this places a try although I'm still confused as to how they are connected.
No idea but I assume that people like me who took the further stand of deleting their content and accounts on Reddit are here to stay.
I think all we need is a killer app like RIF or Sync or Apollo
I'm on Jerboa app on Android. It's pretty good. I'm a RIF user.
Will try it
It depends on whether someone's a member of the community or just because they want to scroll some epic memes. I expect many people are of the latter category and probably don't even understand what the fuss is about.
It's not like I'll never look at Reddit again if there's useful info on it but I won't be part of the Reddit community again after the scorn and disrespect they showed it - I hope to help build something new over here.
I can't do anything about Reddit's decisions but I can vote with my attention and help to build a compelling alternative.
Sure a lot of people will go back to reddit. But a sizebale amount will stay and that's enough for lemmy to get a foothold. I won't be returning to reddit
I'm making a commitment to lemmy, I am enjoying it although it does feel a little anemic by comparison to the endless content of Reddit..
It really just depends on how well utilised it is going forward I'm happy to stay here for sure but if it ends up a ghost town then I might drop out of the habit of using it (hopefully not though)
We have to commit to an alternative for sure. Going back to Reddit is like going back to a girlfriend full of red flags.
I'm here for the long haul.... Reddit accounts have been deleted and time for change :)
Ditto. Except for the deleted accounts. I should go do that, but am somewhat of a digital hoarder.
For me, Lemmy just feels right. I'm willing to wait for the communities to grow and am willing to contribute.
I enjoyed the communities of Reddit, but always felt weird about who's watching me, following me around the internet through my cookie trail. I feel like that wouldn't happen on Lemmy since it's decentralized, but also that it's not a corporate entity.
I had a FOSS Reddit app because I don't trust most companies enough to have their app on my phone, but that was ignoring the bigger problem of all the posts, upvotes and even viewed comments that may be used against me some day.
Doesn't matter, this is how these things gain traction. It's all about trends, especially on social media, baby.
I'm staying put ! Lemmy is king !!
What will make me return to reading Reddit is all those old posts and comments on very specific topics. It doesn't mean I'll stop using Lemmy (especially if some communities I follow migrate here entirely), but there's no proper replacement for Reddit yet.
Also, I've found no app for Lemmy working on Android 7. For Reddit, I'm using Stealth: it's incredibly useful that you can create multiple pseudo-accounts with different subscription lists and saved posts without ever logging in or having an account. API changes are a sad development, but Stealth has an option to work by scraping old.reddit.com - unless they happen to delete it, of course.
Is Jerboa not Android 7 compatible?
Both F-Droid and github builds require 8+.
Serious question: how come you're on Android 7?
I don't remember the details, but my manufacturer removed some manufacturer-specific OS feature I was using in the Android 8 OTA. After figuring it out, I've decided I'm not upgrading. And here we are. The OTA is no longer available; and I still wouldn't agree to it anyway.
What OS feature is that?
Plus the OS is quite out of date. I'm guessing you aren't getting security updates? And your phone is slow?
I don't remember - it might have been something with app autostart, or battery optimisation, or something else.
I know. And no, not slow at all. The hardware is still pretty good today, and will be for a few more years.
For me personally, I'm just here for the ride and I'm curious how things go. On reddit I am only apart of smallish communities and sort by new, so this kinda works even if it's not a bunch of niche subs with stuff I'm into. On reddit I kinda comment and move on, and maybe here I can break the habit of completely ignoring my inbox 😅
From June 14 to June 30, the RIF Android app will mostly work as normal providing access to most of the same subreddits I've been visiting for the past decade+. A few will shut down permanently, but other than that, it'll mostly be the same as before, so I'll probably use Reddit during that period.
However, effective July 1, that option disappears completely. If I want to continue using Reddit, I'll have to download an entirely different app and get used to an entirely different user interface providing an experience much worse than RIF. If I have to learn something brand new anyway, I may as well try an entirely different platform like Lemmy. No idea if I'll stick here long term or not, but the power of Reddit was the community. If the community migrates over here, I'm all for staying here. I suspect one of the Redsit alternatives will attract a critical mass of people at some point.
As every internet platform has shown, the enshittification is inevitable. Eventually, Lemmy too will become an unusable mess of ads and feature creep if/when enough money starts flowing in. However, I'm perfectly fine using the site for the next few years until that happens.
But doesn't the federated instance-based nature of Lemmy mean that enshittification is more difficult to creep in? Like if an instance (or several instances) start being like that, we can just leave to a different one that isn't doing that, yeah?
It would really help the adoption of Lemmy if we get a 'multisub'-idea, that Reddit uses, where a user could bind multiple instances' communities together, and make it appear as one community.
(So I can bind all similar instances into one).
Regardless, I won't be going back to Reddit. If I stick around Lemmy, that's kind of up to how I enjoy this platform & usability, but I can be quite stubborn with my 'morals'. Once a platform is done for me, it is done lmao.
Isn't what you're talking about just subscribing to the different instances communities?
I'm not a lemmy pro, but I think subscribing to multiple communities only works if that's all you ever subscribe to. If I decide I want to look at all the posts of /r/tech+technology+techsupport on reddit I can do that by writing the URL in that fashion. If I want a focused view of specific lemmy communities at one time I don't know if that's possible yet?
Probably most. It will be interesting to see how many people jump to lemmy once the API changes happen though.
I think prob half of the people who give lemmy a chance, I think we're just a vocal minority, most people who post on Reddit and the enthusiasts that give a damn about design and shit, so that's why a ton of subs a going dark, but most of the people probably don't care, some of them are still going to join lemmy(hence the 50%) but there just isn't enough content
changing to lemmy has completely changed how it use this type of app, 70% of the posts were pics/vids, but here there's a bigger focus of text and the amount of pics are closer to 20%
Yeah, I’ve noticed the decrease in pictures and certainly video in favor of a lot of text. Needs a bit more balance it will get there as people figure the tools out and create the content.
Maybe they come, check it out, decide it's not for them right now, but come back to it the next time reddit fucks up. It'll all be fine. There's plenty of content to be had here even if it will take a while for the super niche communities to really blossom. I don't plan to go back to reddit for casual browsing ever except to check in on some subreddits that haven't made the jump yet.
Hmm, well, as for me, I've already deleted my Reddit account, and now I've permanently switched to Lemmy. The community here is genuinely pleasant, unlike the experience I had on Reddit where my questions and comments were often deleted. The people here are not only nice but also genuinely helpful! It's such a delightful place to be, and I feel a strong desire to remain here indefinitely.
I tend to be more of a lurker than an active participant, primarily because I fear that my opinions and views might be suppressed due to internet censorship. However, in this community, I can freely express myself without any apprehension (as long as I adhere to the rules).
This is a tough one for me. If it was just the API changes I probably would have been hesitant but would have returned. As long as old.reddit still worked I probably would have used that.
BUT...... the AMA spez did hurt those chances. He could have avoided dragging the Apollo guy through the mud. So as long as he is there, tough to imagine I will be going back.
I think at least 1% will stay, but due to how massive Reddit is, that will be enough to survive.
nahhh. at least not entirely. i'm focusing on feeling more at home here, it'd feel wrong to go back. over the last months the cracks have started to show in reddit to such a degree, i was trying to escape but couldn't quite get committed enough, so this is perfect
i'm sure people will dabble in specific subs but still mainly use lemmy as best as they can
I prefer to be bored on lemmy than annoyed with agressive pop ups, repetitive and irellevant ads and silenced whenever i express opinion that goes against the prevailing group think. If you prefer being herded into corrals on that other site, feel free to leave.
Done with the R. Will miss it some but already am doing other things like reading and learning chess.
This sums up me. If I can't use Apollo; I'm done.
2 things.
Firstly, most will go back. With the enshittification of twitter in November mastodon experienced an influx of new users. It feels like for several weeks activity doubled, then it died down to about 30% of the increase and stayed there. So while most go back it was still great for Mastodon. Fosstodon users increased from 10k to 60k in a month.
Secondly, it's not a mutually exclusive binary thing. Reddit will always have some great niche communities. There's nothing wrong with following those, but you can also continue to follow some lemmy communities too.
Lemmy doesn't need to become a reddit killer over night. I think for the fediverse in general there will be a few events like this each year, and if the fediverse get's some exposure and increases in size, it just makes it more viable for the next round.
Personally, I am not one to 'choose' so much. I don't feel the need to delete my Reddit or Facebook accounts....
However, I haven't used Facebook for quite a long time - except to contact via messenger a couple of people who only use Facebook AFAIK.
The same can happen to Reddit, if I get more interesting feeds...
Unfortunately with the enshittification of almost the entire internet due to a few monoliths controlling almost all traffic and the concept of the hedonic treadmill, the new shitty normal will become acceptable to most people who are not really thinking about it. Not much anyone can do about that.
In my case and for many others, there's a breaking point. It's further along than we probably would like to think it is, but for me it's being jerked over to an inferior, broken, and cluttered interface designed to maximize the amount of paid BS that I have to see while still having to tolerate the consequences of the centrist "all bigots we can sell to are welcome" mentality of Reddit ownership. It's become too much for me to want to continue to participate regularly while alternatives like this exist which haven't yet been ruined yet.
The vast majority, but more important than the number of people who go back are what kinds of users go back, and most will be lowest common denominator ones who are just there to troll and shitpost. The quality of content and moderating will definitely go down and stay that way.
To be honest I found Kbin too confusing, lemmy is a bit less confusing and I'm glad lemmy.ml increased it servers capacity throughout the day, but it was a bit of a mess.
Hopefully the growing pains of lemmy will end soon and we can continue growing the Federation!
I feel the same way about Kbin. Why are communities called magazines? It just doesn't map to mental concepts all that well. It's also extremely hard to navigate to your subscribed subreddits. You have to go through Settings just to do that. I do like aspects of its interface though, like how it uses up more horizontal width of your monitor and there's clearer separation between different comments and different posts.
I'd like to think that the fedi/lemmy space will be a nice place to still participate in, even a person decides to go back.
This has been the push I’ve needed to leave. I hope to stay away. I spent too much time there doomscrolling and hope Lemmy’s format prevents me from that waste of my time.
I'm kind of hoping to stay here. I also joined mastodon. Just hoping the right number of people have the same idea.
Same, there just needs to be enough. If nearly no one is left, then it will die out. But if there is enough, then I think it will only get better from here.
I think making things more user friendly overall and communities focusing on quality is gonna play a big role for people staying around or not.
They're starting by going private for 2 days, but almost unanimously they will continue for longer if reddit doesn't concede. Specifically some of the biggest subreddits like funny and videos, those won't be coming back unless reddit backs off or replaces the moderators.
Probably most refugees will go back but hopefully not a so small minority will continue to use Lemmy or only Lemmy.
Probably a second wave will migrate at the beginning of July because I don't think that 2 days of "abstinence" will change to much.
I'm not sure if I prefer Lemmy but I just don't want to return to Reddit. If they reverted all the changes AND completed changed leadership? Maybe, but it's a big maybe.
I'm curious to see how many go away now, and return to lemmy on July 1 when a whole bunch of apps get killed.
I have RedReader, which has been exempted for the time being. However, if this is as bad for moderation as it seems like it will be, I doubt I'll be using it long.
I think a lot of them will. Realistically, a lot of people are going to forget about the whole blackout thing and just use the official app.
In a hilarious irony, reddit is down at the moment.
It's so tempting once the blackout is over, especially as certain communities just are too niche to be found on Lemmy yet and I value those discussions. But for sure my usage of reddit while not going to 0 will be cut drastically.
Reddit is like the abusive lover we can't leave.
I've been hurt again and again and again over the years. This was the last straw. Even if they cave, it'll only be temporary.
I'll continue to use reddit data in searches, but I'll no longer participate in the discussions or offer my opinions/experience there.
I forked PDS and re-wrote all my comments, then delete all my accounts. There's no turning back.
As for sticking with Lemmy... who knows. But I'm going to give it a solid go.
Yeah I'll definitely return. I find myself opening Boost by habit way too much lol. Lemmy and Jerboa are also a bit janky and I find the default pages and algorithm weird. That said it seems like as a result, or maybe just because of the low amount of content, posts stay active for longer, whereas most 1 day old posts on Reddit are basically dead.
I used to use the official app for a long time before switching to Boost, which is more usable and customisable, and also ad-free after paying a one-time fee. Just after I switched the official app made some unpopular changes so I didn't look back, but I recently checked it and it seems that there are a few new features introduced that I find useful, including being able to download videos easily which will be an essential feature if bots will stop working in the future. Playing videos are still janky though. If I'm forced to go back I'll definitely use revanced to strip the ads.
As I understand it the changes will be even more painful for the mods though, even if Reddit promised to not touch bots that help mods.
That said I've created a Lemmy account and downloaded Jerboa so I'll probably still use Lemmy occasionally just to see what's here.
Things will go back to a new normal with a lot more users. Some will remain others will not. Eventually the ecosystem will mature, new apps will be created and more people will move over.
Lemmy is not ready yet.
And it will remain that way if early adopters don’t stay and post content
Honestly it's no more ready than reddit was in the beginning. Time will tell.
even not ready sites need users
If it's anything like the incoming waves of new Fedi users, 50-65% will go back to their services of choice and never return to the Fediverse.
most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days Not true, most subreddits are going down for as long as it takes for the reddit admins to change their mind (AKA forever)
I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.
I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.
The real test will be when the apps go dark at the end of June.
I feel like that will have more impact than a portion of the subreddits going dark for a few days. People will wait out the protest, and can go back to browsing Reddit again. They have to change something in their flow if they wanna keep using Reddit on their phone, and it's gonna change their experience.
I'm using whatever app/platform can provide in terms of usability and content. Once Boost (or any other third party client) stops working, I'll probably stop using Reddit too.
Exactly! A considerable number of individuals are unwilling to utilize the Official Reddit App, and even Huffman himself has confirmed that he doesn't care about the fate of these apps, which ultimately leads to the demise of Reddit without the presence of these Third Party Apps. It's just a matter of time now...
If I get bored, I'm still not going back, I'll just do something else with my time vegging in front of the tv.
around 80%
I am still lurking on reddit, while using Lemmy. Frankly, Lemmy is pre-Eternal September, so everyone is nice and the community is cool. But reddit is still a massive repository of info. I think once we hit July and my 3PA goes offline, i will be mostly on Lemmy. Suspect this will be the case for most lemmings.
I'll be using both
I feel like most will, it's kind of confusing getting here in the first place so I'm not entirely convinced this would be capable of migration without becoming far more user friendly. On top of that the big communities still have more discussion over on reddit which is the main draw imo.
For my part, I am here to stay on Lemmy, and will be deleting my Reddit accounts. The quality of the content on Reddit has gotten pretty bad this past year or so. Too many ads, too many suggestions for SubReddits that I am not interested in -- but their algorithm "thinks" I would be interested on account of the fact that this SubReddit they keep recommending to me has a million subscribers and would likely keep me engaged with their platform.
I joined Mastodon last year and I love it so much, I swear I will never participate in a corporate-owned social network ever again. Mastodon has mostly satisfied my need for surrogate human interaction, but now that everyone is abandoning Reddit for Lemmy, I think I will join Lemmy too.
I am here to stay.
I have no desire to go back to Reddit full time. It's still a great resource when looking up solutions, but I will not be browsing it.
I used maybe 5 at most different subs. Half related to hockey. There's no real loss.
I hope we can create a community that they want to be a part of. It takes a lot more than just lurking like I did at reddit.
Approximately 90%. And the figure is only so low because most people won't bother to sign up
I think I'll be checking back to look at all my subscribed subs, write them down, and bookmark certain webpages and when RIF goes down, I have a great start for things to look for on here. Gotta keep going forward.
This is what I'm planning to do as well. As well as save a few sports gifs and videos from the r/NBA lol. Then by the end of the month I'll be on Lemmy permanently and have Reddit off my phone.
Personally, I won't be coming back to Reddit after this, not for everyday stuff anyway. But since there's a lot of information on Reddit that's nowhere else, I'll probably have to look at it every once in a while.
The API changes may have been what finally pushed me to leave Reddit, but I've been dissatisfied with how it's being run for a couple of years now. Even if lemmy won't turn out to be for me, I'll just look for another alternative.
I think for myself at least. It depends how well I take to the app and if I figure out how to get the same kind of content I was getting. I can see myself staying but also using the lack of BaconReader as a way to eliminate this screen time from my day.
I honestly think a lot of PPL will move to reddit, but I'm staying, lemmy's better for discussion
I won't be back to reddit. I had enough of their BS.
I'm going to massively minimize my Reddit usage. There's still a few subs that I can't fully abandon because I'm involved in communities, but I'm unsubscribing from the doomscroll content farm subs.
I'm here as long as it's active. Really hoping it stays as active as it has been lately, because if reddit doesn't change their plan I'm gone as soon as my app stops working.
I just don't have any desire to go back. For me Apollo was my Reddit. I'm sure I will find myself there from time to time, because without a doubt, there is useful content and passed down knowledge there, but it's not going to be a part of my daily routine anymore. I'm digging the vibe on Lemmy and want to see where it goes.
I'm willing to keep plugging away here.
Like l thought they ended the blackouts already. Did they not? Hmm
I usually scrolled my subreddits, but the things I absolutely sought out on reddit were the wrestling sub and subs devoted to the toy lines I collect. There are discords for those things, but I hope to stumble across something here sooner than later.
There's nothing stopping you from creating such community yourself and if you don't want to mod it, you can always ask somebody to mod it for you or transfer the ownership to later ;) We also have newcommunities community where you could post it for better visibility (but please read the sticky there about how to cross-link between the instances).
Have fun! ;)
I’ve tried but I keep getting a “match the requested format” on the name part. I’ve googled but so far no help. Any tips?
N/m, I got it and started a gijoe community. Thanks for the push!
SquaredCircle refugee as well here. I don't have cable or Fite so SC was my way to keep up between PLEs and AEW PPVs I had to find online.
I’ve joined the discord but it’s not quite the same. :(
Can't say for most people, but I can share my experience.
I signed up for Lemmy and Mastodon around the time the Reddit API news broke out. Before that, I use Reddit for news and discussions in communities I'm interested in, and Twitter for following internet people. For now, Lemmy has been satisfactory enough for me to not want to go back to Reddit all the time, but most internet creators I follow are still on Twitter, so I can't switch fully to Mastodon just yet.
I expect a lot of people to go back, and I can't deny that if too many people decide to go back I'll probably drift away too; hoping that the blackouts are indefinite so people stay on here and get acclimated enough to decide that this is better than Reddit (or at least has more potential)
I think you're right. I am guessing the ones who will return are the ones crying F Reddit the loudest. It's like the boy who breaks up with Girl A, but them starts dating Girl B, all the time looking around to ensure that Girl A sees him and talking to Girl B about how terrible his last girlfriend was. Maybe I just watched too many of those after school specials.
definitely the case for some, lmao
understandable feeling, but Reddit does not care about that; you gotta hit their profit margin, which is what an indefinite blackout will do if it gets big enough
I hope it gets big enough
I'm the same way. Its really all about user content. If the Lemmy userbase doesn't have a lot to offer after the blackout then I'll probably go back
I just hope enough of us will remain in fediverse, since making account and understanding federation is the hardest part.
People who were happy with reddit will go back, but I think there are now enough of us that didn't feel part of it in the last few years, finding other communities makes me hopeful for better space (for me) on the web.
since making account and understanding federation is the hardest part
I can say for me personally, that was DEFINITELY the hardest part. I joined the Fediverse with Matrix and just understanding how federation worked and picking the right instance felt like a major undertaking compared to your average signup process. I ran my poor mom through the same process and she would have been absolutely baffled if I hadn't walked her through the process.
However, since then, I've been hooked on the idea. I use Matrix a ton now to talk with open source communities and have even convinced a few friends to sign up for it for regular chat. I signed up for a Mastodon account a while ago and have just recently started being more active on it and so far the content on it has been great.
I doubt the blackout will stick. I didn't see very much action around migrating to new sites from all those big subs going dark.
Most, but they'll always have Lemmy in their back pocket, which is the important part.
I think if the top Reddit third party apps developed a Lemmy app, that would genuinely help keep people here.
The "official" Lemmy apps right now are rough. They aren't terrible, but they are leagues behind any of the main Reddit apps.
Just using it in the browser isn't too bad. When jerboa conked out for me yesterday i just switched to browser
Yeah Reddit in a mobile browser is like pulling teeth. Lemmy is fine.
It's okay if people get bored and migrate back to Reddit. Lemmy is currently not capable of handling the load. Throughout June I'll probably browse Reddit when Lemmy is down.
Come July, I (and many other I suspect)'ll just be forced to stop browsing Reddit as the third party apps die.
The reality is that Lemmy just isn't ready to handle the full influx of users.
While lemmy as in lemmy.ml isn't ready, there are plenty of other instances for users to go. I hope that few folks will find their way here one way or another. Probably not to the reddits level, of course, but I'm still hoping to see something around 20-30k MAU.
To me, Lemmy's concept looks better than reddit. Glad I found it.
I feel like the concept of instances and federation are still foreign to a lot of mainstream users. And it doesn't help that a lot of these instances have genuinely terrible domain names that don't give them an air of legitmacy or even a vague association that it could be a Lemmy instance. Like seriously, beehaw.org? sh.itjust.works? I guess this minor gripe will eventually go away once reputable groups, associations, or even companies start spinning up Lemmy instances, but still, it is quite daunting and scrappy looking to the average user.
Reddit already made a exception for the app I am using, and it will be allowed to use the api freely. If needed they will make exceptions.
Reddit on mobile for me is done. I may still browse it on desktop but lemmy will be my go to when i'm out and about
Anime intros, but Madoka as well as the second intro of season 1 of Gundam 00. One of my favorite intros ever.
(Has anyone made a "Lost Lemmings" community yet? 🙃)
There's currently a bug where, especially if you're browsing Lemmy in multiple tabs, comments can get sent to the wrong post. So not all who comment off-topic are lost.
There's a subreddit called r/lostredditors. For people who somehow ended up posting in the wrong subreddit. I was just referencing that. ☺️
I'm going back.
The community search functions are next to useless, the fragmentation of communities makes it harder to manage, and the Jerboa app is infinitely worse than the Reddit main app
Even is Lemmy isn't right, why not have a look around and see if you can replace Reddit with something else, even if it's a mix of stuff.
This is the beginning of the enshittification of Reddit - it's no longer about providing a good user experience, it's about providing a good corporate experience. This means that the content will get worse and worse , and less and less relevant. Stage 3 is where Reddit fucks over the advertisers and starts making bank, and shortly after that with no users and no corporate support it starts to implode..
And then you will need to move off the platform.
Or - you could move off now. Lemmy is ok, the best for chatting. I've been using Imgur for memes but miss NSFW content, and Lemmy is also very NSFW unfriendly. So for me right now it's a bit of a mix.
I'm working on my own content aggregator with the features of Reddit, but in the end it's just for me if nobody gives a damn and that's ok
I'm like a 99% mobile user, and the support for that isn't really there.
This jerboa app is not fully functional, community searching is too difficult, and the ones I do try to subscribe to get stuck on pending.
I'll definitely give Lemmy another try after it gets better features and a stable android app.