100% agree, I feel if people chill out and accept imperfection they'd get more people on their side.

Why I don't like being left wing sometimes

reducto absurdum, I'm just trying to make a point / get a message across.

I'd be surprised if anyone here flies a private jet.

Yes there is no true way to live ethically, you will cause the death of hundreds of vibrates just by being alive.

Fair enough,

The point I'm trying to make is there are many ways to live more ethically, If you're a vegan but fly a private jet, you don't give a fuck about the environment, you're just pretending you do.

You could also not be a vegan and care more about the environment than a lot of vegans.

I knew a militant vegan who removed the emissions filter from his diesel car, and tuned it to 'roll coal' (emit tons of smoke) because he thought it was cool.

There's a lot of nuance

That'll do the trick

You'd need ~1.2kg of beans for that

That's 3 cans, where I live that costs a lot more than 400g of chicken. And it would suck to eat that much beans.

And calling out some hypocrisies.

Most people are only willing to make sacrifices for animals/the-environment as long as it suites their lifestyle.

OMG I'll never eat fish that's murder. 😡

12h+ flight flight to go on holiday 🥺👉👈 Whoopsie

I can get 100g of protein from chicken or fish for dirt cheap, and it's delicious.

What would be the cheapest way to get 100g of protein from vegan options?

Same is true for Flying:

"Sure Flying burns huge amounts of fuel, releases greenhouse gases high in the atmosphere, and contributes to the climate damage, but my holidays and travel time is more important"

Devils Advocate: Some reasons outweigh others.

The list of why you should never get on a airplane is also very long.

Our house's power got knocked out, the backup battery is about to die.

I hope it gets restored by tomorrow, but given conditions I don't know if workers will be able to find and fix the issue.