Oof, hope it works out for them 😣

If my country's politics get brought up, I just state that I do not support the government's recent actions. (Don't read that to mean I support my government's actions at literally any point in history .)

Instead of asking an AI your next question, try "borrowing" a book from the "library" on the topic (serious). Honestly, this would also have been my answer five years ago, before ChatGPT, with regard to basic search engines, since I'm old enough to remember when the advice was to not trust everything you read on the Internet.

Get your crabs ready everyone!

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Psychiatry never mentions the failures in our societies as causes of the unwellness but treats the unwellness as individual failure, and that's not an innocent error to make.

I completely agree. But for me, this does not make psychiatry a hierarchy. It makes psychiatry a framework tainted by the logic of capitalism. And if it's too tainted for you to trust, I completely sympathize. But I do still believe that, despite its foundational flaws, it is still capable of being liberatory, even in its nascent stage as a science.

Really, I wanted to respectfully push back on the notion that leftists who use or support the use of psychiatry have failed to consider the abuses that psychiatry has committed upon us. I have. And I'm living the consequences of my analysis.

I'm so sorry that happened to you and is happening to you. I hope you can find justice and peace.

i think merge into neurology phylosofy

Depends on what you mean by "merge". Because I absolutely agree that psychiatrists should study those topics, probably more than they do now. But I don't want to "merge" them. E.g., I think it is possible that there are neurologists who don't specialize in psychiatry, and vice-versa, even though psychiatrists should probably have some neurological background knowledge. Doubly so for philosophy. E.g., a philosopher who specializes in the philosophy of science is not necessarily more qualified to talk about psychiatry than anyone else. But it would definitely be cool for all of these people to adopt an interdisciplinary approach, which is systemically discouraged by capitalist academia.

You feel unwell, but instead of taking the time you need to figure out why you feel so, you go to a professional

Actually, I was referred to a few other lines of therapy and coping before psychiatry, none of which helped me. And I am absolutely not discouraged from figuring out why on my own. Psychiatry helped me focus on the why under my own power. Even though that wasn't facilitated by the psychiatrist, I did take the time (and still do) to figure out why I feel this way. The medications are a tool to help me do that.

It's usually a made up thing like 'Can't-pay-attention-disorder' or 'Doesn't-obey-authority-disorder' or 'Is-really-sad-syndrome' - just more fancy sounding to fool the people who desperately want to believe that this shit is science.

Right, but I absolutely do have the "is really sad syndrome". Like I would be stuck in bed all day doing nothing and watching the world go by without meds, like I was before I started taking them. Even if we lifted the burden of capitalism, my brain has developed around that reality. I need chemical help to do stuff. It would have been nice to not have grown up in a world like that, but the damage is done, and I have to cope.

Then they medicate you with one of their experimental substances and try to make you functional for work, war or procreation again.

These substances are no more experimental than recreational drugs. Frankly, they are extremely well studied for the most part. And we do need to improve the scientific rigor behind psychiatry, absolutely, 100% with you. But that doesn't mean that in the interim, we can't do liberatory work with the nascent tools that psychiatry offers us.

But I won't give away the authority over my inner world of feeling to a professional working by the logic of a capitalist state I otherwise reject and let my unwellness about the rotten state of the world be dismissed as a disorder that is just happening in my own head.

Neither will I. Neither do I. The authority of the "bootmaker" (here the psychiatrist) is not absolute.

professional working by the logic of a capitalist state

So is the authority of the bootmaker invalid if they are working by the logic of the capitalist state? Because to some extent yes, it does temper the authority I delegate to my psychiatrist! But that doesn't mean that their expertise is completely unusable. E.g. medical professionals in other fields also operate under the logic of a capitalist state to various extents.

It's strange that the average leftie can be anti-establishment, anti-police, anti-capitalism, anti-machismo ... but mention anti-psychiatry to them and get downvoted to hell. Never made much sense to me.

Respectfully, it's because I believe that you're making a category error. Establishment, police, capitalism, and machismo are hierarchies. In my view, psychiatry is a tool, which is often used as a tool of oppression, but which can and often is similarly used as a tool of liberation. Psychiatry is not, in my view, a hierarchy itself.

Psychiatry has absolutely been used as a tool of oppression by the capitalist class, but psychiatry can be a liberatory tool if practiced with consent, dignity, and good science. Psychiatry has done wonders for my mental health. It would be better to eliminate capitalism and all the other hierarchies that exacerbate mental health disorders if only one or the other must be chosen, but in the short term, they're not going anywhere. And I reject the notion that we cannot do both. Even then, I am skeptical that eliminating hierarchical oppression would completely eliminate the need for psychiatry; put simply, life is fucking hard, and some people need chemical help, myself very much included.

I do not recommend psychiatry for absolutely everyone, but the option needs to be available. I respect if you do not want to use this tool, but please understand that for some of us, getting rid of psychiatry would eliminate our most effective means of battling our demons.